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Evil, conscienceless yet imbecilic ustazy wrote;
Ha ha , harping and whining at best. You did not even try to respond.
I will explain to make it easier for you to understand. If you claim sectarian violence , then per your claim , the killers of the Shia Sheikh will most probably be sunnis. If the article has been written by a sunni , per your cliam therefore the sunnis themselves are branding the killers whom in your mind would be sunnis to be 'takfiris extremists'. You have negated your very own argument.
It is so easy for me to prove that you are wrong. On the other hand , I find that you are so scared to respond to the issue that data has been provided showing that christianity tops killings in the history of the world. You guys are still leading while the rest put together are playing catchup.
Appears that you have put up the 'white flag'. What is your issue? The report itself stated that the killers have been branded apostates for the act of killing. Ha ha , the example you appeal to negated your argument.
This is so embarrassing for christians............................. ..................
Good Samaritans wrote;
Since takfir or takfeer (Arabic: تكفير‎ takfīr) refers to the practice of one Muslim declaring another Muslim an unbeliever or kafir (pl. kuffār), the above killers (most likely Sunni) of Shia Sheikhs and 4 others must of course be declared apostates or extremists by Shia sects since they are Sunni !
By the way, historically Sunni and Shia consider each other Takfir (Syiah jika berkembang akan tindas Sunni, kata PAS Kelantan. The Malaysian Insider – Sat, Jun 15, 2013. http://my.news.yahoo.com/syiah-j ... tml?.tsrc=samsungwn. ) and that's why they are killing each other like there is no tomorrow. We have to thank the evil but dumb ustazy here for pointig out and admitting that if any muslim is considered apostate or Takfir, then he or she is obliged to kill or be killed !
The article was written by a MAJORITY Sunni, who branded the 'extremist' TAKFIR. Do you see it?
The majority Sunni are calling the minority TAKFIR who most likely suffer under their rule.
As muslims see each other's sect as TAKFIR (depending on who is referring to whom), then each side will consider the other side's blood to be HALAL.
In other words, muslims kiling other muslims and calling each other TAKFIR.
In this case, it was a small group (but with a force of a hundred) decided that the Shia Sheikh's blood to be halal.
So they killed him for whatever small reason they deemed provocative.
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wkk5159 posted on 26-6-2013 07:55 AM 
Evil, conscienceless yet imbecilic ustazy wrote;
Ha ha , harping and whining at best. You did no ...
Ha ha , this is a evidence that you guys have lost as you
- don't even understand what you read
- you argue without data.
Again , I will explain the report which 'nightlord' appeal to (and you being an apologist for him) :
If you claim sectarian violence , then per your claim , the killers of the Shia Sheikh will most probably be sunnis. If the article has been written by a sunni , per your cliam therefore the sunnis themselves are branding the killers whom in your mind would be sunnis to be 'takfiris extremists'. You have negated your very own argument.
Ha ha , you guys are so obsessed with hate and have been appealing to hate sites that rationality have been lost in your arguments. It is so easy to refute you.
News for the readers! The defunct LTTE or better known as 'tamil tigers' , the leaders in suicide terrorism , was not a hindu organization. Yes folks , the top leaders were all christians and they ordered their hindu footsoldiers to be suicide terrorists. The list of the leaders of the LTTE
For example, most of the top cadre of the LTTE were apparently Christians:
Prabhakaran aka Pirapaharan (Christian convert, a lapsed Methodist)
S.P. Tamil Selvam – Christian
Balraj (Balasegaram Kandiah) – Christian
Pottu Amman (Christian)
Prabhakaran’s son Charles Anthony – Christian
Anton Balasingham – a Roman Catholic and LTTE’s self-declared “theoretician”.
Soosai (Thillaiyampalam Sivanesan) – Christian
Thenmozhi Rajaratnam (nickname Dhanu), Rajiv Gandhi’s suicide bomber assassin – Christian
Source : Onlanka news
List of the church clergy openly supported the LTTE
Frs. Singarayer, Diyogupillai, Prof. (Fr.) Joseph Chandrakanthan, from the Department of Theology at the University of Toronto, a former President of the University of Jaffna Teacher’s Association
Father Jagat Gasper Raj-LTTE links.
Fr. S. J. Emmanuel, former Vicar—General of Jaffna, who is now residing in Germany, is a prime example of the Church joining hands with the LTTE. He is on record saying that he is first a Tamil and then a Christian. He called Prabhakaran Jesus Christ, the LTTE soldiers of Christ, the suicide bombers, martyrs of the Catholic Church to whom the Church provided a Catholic burial, and self-proclaimed himself, the Moses who would lead the Tamil nation from the bondage of the Sinhalese-Buddhists to the land chosen for them by God: Ealam. He leads the Global Tamil Forum.
Pro-LTTE S. Jebanesan, Bishop of the Church of South India (CSI), who said that he too was working on a theology for the Tamils. A theology only for the Tamils excludes Sinhala Christians.
Prof. S. Chandrakanthan attached to the Theology Department of the Toronto University, Canada is also pro-separatist pro-LTTE
Rev. Dick Wootton of Uniting Church, Melbourne, Australia
Bishop Kenneth Fernando of the Anglican Church, visited Prabakaran with Charles Abeysekera and Jayadeva Uyangoda and announced that “Prabakaran is humane” shocking all.
Rev Sr. Mary Barbara, Dr Anita Nesiah, M. Rajasigham, Joe William and T. Jayasingham of the National Peace Council are all supporters of LTTE.
Rajappu Joseph Bishop of Mannar, declared open the “Embassy of the Tamil Eelam”, the Eelam House in London.
The bible supports suicide terrorism. jud16:26-30
26 Samson said to the servant who held his hand, “Put me where I can feel the pillars that support the temple, so that I may lean against them.”
27 Now the temple was crowded with men and women; all the rulers of the Philistines were there, and on the roof were about three thousand men and women watching Samson perform.
28 Then Samson prayed to the LORD, “Sovereign LORD, remember me. Please, God, strengthen me just once more, and let me with one blow get revenge on the Philistines for my two eyes.”
29 Then Samson reached toward the two central pillars on which the temple stood. Bracing himself against them, his right hand on the one and his left hand on the other,
30 Samson said, “Let me die with the Philistines!” Then he pushed with all his might, and down came the temple on the rulers and all the people in it. Thus he killed many more when he died than while he lived.
Biblical verses that support suicide terrorism.
Lets see how 'wkk5159' and 'nightlord' try to explain this ..... ha ha .... this should be fun
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by sam1528
28 Then Samson prayed to the LORD, “Sovereign LORD, remember me. Please, God, strengthen me just once more, and let me with one blow get revenge on the Philistines for my two eyes.”
It was an act or revenge, not suicide terrorism. Terrorism is a scare-tactics. You kill a few and scare others into believing that you going to do the same to them, in attempt to negotiate a better deal. Muhammad was good at this, sending out letters to weaker tribes, telling them that he will come and kill them if they do not support him.
What Samsom did was an act of revenge and their death ended with his. He did not strike down others with his revengeful act again.
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Delusional psychotic ustazy wrote;
The bible supports suicide terrorism. jud16:26-30.............
The door of mental hospital really open wide for this demented ustazy.
p/s: Lessons and Reflections learned of Samson in Judge 16:26-30 http://christianity.about.com/od ... p/samsondelilah.htm
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Sephiroth posted on 26-6-2013 01:49 PM
by sam1528
Have you read the particular verses that were cited. The way you answered shows ignorance on your part.
At that time there were 3k people in the hall who were not guilty of anything.
This comment of yours takes the top position for dunce of the week :
Muhammad was good at this, sending out letters to weaker tribes, telling them that he will come and kill them if they do not support him.
Ok then , provide the historical evidence which of course you are unable to do so.
If you so call insist on revenge being the motivation , then the so called suicide terrorist were bent on revenge upon the attacks by their enemies.
What is your position now? BTW , the footsoldiers who committed suicide terrorism for the LTTE of 'tamil tigers' were hindus taking their orders from their christian bosses. Ha ha ...
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wkk5159 posted on 26-6-2013 03:32 PM
Delusional psychotic ustazy wrote;
The bible supports suicide terrorism. jud16:26-30............. ...............
The door of mental hospital really open wide for this demented ustazy.
p/s: Lessons and Reflections learned of Samson in Judge 16:26-30 http://christianity.about.com/od ... p/samsondelilah.htm
Ha ha , did you actually read the link you provided. I will point it out to you :
Reading the account of Samson's life and then his downfall with Delilah, you might tend to think Samson wasted his life. He was a failure. Yet even still, he accomplished his God assigned mission.
No matter how far you've fallen away from God, no matter how big you've failed, it's never too late to humble yourself and turn over your dependence upon God. Ultimately, through his sacrificial death, Samson turned his miserable mistakes into victory. Let Samson's example persuade you—it's never too late.
A suicide terrorist ends up in a 'sacrificial death' in order to force a victory. The commentary stated that biblical Samson was on a mission from God , his action of 'sacrifical death' means that the bible supports suicide terrorism.
BTW , in his God assigned mission , biblical Samson made a pit stop to have 'fun' with a prostitute in Gaza. jud16:1
One day Samson went to Gaza, where he saw a prostitute. He went in to spend the night with her.
Is this the so called word of your biblical God? Ha ha , you have explained nothing but affirming suicide terrorism in the bible but one needs to have 'fun' with a prostitute first .... tsk tsk tsk
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by sam1528
At that time there were 3k people in the hall who were not guilty of anything.
How do you know they are not guilty of anything? Are you God? 
If they are innocent, they could have walked away when they see a man, beaten and blinded, tied to two pillars like some cattle waiting to be slaughtered. They are guilty by association, and in many countries, that can put you in jail.
If you so call insist on revenge being the motivation , then the so called suicide terrorist were bent on revenge upon the attacks by their enemies.
No, revenge is not the motivation for suicide terrorists. Do you think people like Osama Bin Laden gives damn about the Palestine? Their motivation is just one thing - To get to heaven and into the skirts of those 72 virgin the Devil named Allah had promised them. That is all.
BTW , in his God assigned mission , biblical Samson made a pit stop to have 'fun' with a prostitute in Gaza. jud16:1
And he paid the price by losing both of his eyes in the end.
In a battle, a soldier who cannot be distracted by distractions and must keep his mind and body focused on the mission given. Samson FAILED cos he was distracted by women (like Delilah) and he paid the price for his distractions. |
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Sephiroth posted on 27-6-2013 09:35 AM
by sam1528
How do you know they are not guilty of anything? Are you God? 
If they are innocent, they could have walked away when they see a man, beaten and blinded, tied to two pillars like some cattle waiting to be slaughtered. They are guilty by association, and in many countries, that can put you in jail.
Truly you are one very ignorant person.
The said verse in jud16:27 stated that the people came to watch. Since when does watching an event , no matter how gory makes the person guilty? Guilt by association is a logical fallacy. Haters like you often employ such fallacy.
Guilt by Association is a fallacy in which a person rejects a claim simply because it is pointed out that people she dislikes accept the claim. This sort of "reasoning" has the following form:
It is pointed out that people person A does not like accept claim P.
Therefore P is false
It is clear that sort of "reasoning" is fallacious. For example the following is obviously a case of poor "reasoning": "You think that 1+1=2. But, Adolf Hitler, Charles Manson, Joseph Stalin, and Ted Bundy all believed that 1+1=2. So, you shouldn't believe it."
The fallacy draws its power from the fact that people do not like to be associated with people they dislike. Hence, if it is shown that a person shares a belief with people he dislikes he might be influenced into rejecting that belief. In such cases the person will be rejecting the claim based on how he thinks or feels about the people who hold it and because he does not want to be associated with such people.
Of course, the fact that someone does not want to be associated with people she dislikes does not justify the rejection of any claim. For example, most wicked and terrible people accept that the earth revolves around the sun and that lead is heavier than helium. No sane person would reject these claims simply because this would put them in the company of people they dislike (or even hate).
Not a logical nor rational person you are when you invole the fallacy of 'guilt by association'.
No, revenge is not the motivation for suicide terrorists. Do you think people like Osama Bin Laden gives damn about the Palestine? Their motivation is just one thing - To get to heaven and into the skirts of those 72 virgin the Devil named Allah had promised them. That is all.
Bin Laden struggle is for the USA to change its foreign policy to stop interfering in the business of others.
More than 95 percent of all suicide attacks are in response to foreign occupation, according to extensive research that we conducted at the University of Chicago's Project on Security and Terrorism, where we examined every one of the over 2,200 suicide attacks across the world from 1980 to the present day. As the United States has occupied Afghanistan and Iraq, which have a combined population of about 60 million, total suicide attacks worldwide have risen dramatically -- from about 300 from 1980 to 2003, to 1,800 from 2004 to 2009. Further, over 90 percent of suicide attacks worldwide are now anti-American. The vast majority of suicide terrorists hail from the local region threatened by foreign troops, which is why 90 percent of suicide attackers in Afghanistan are Afghans.
Its the occupation
The so called suicide terrorism decreased when Israel withdrew from Lebanon ~ 2000
Israelis have their own narrative about terrorism, which holds that Arab fanatics seek to destroy the Jewish state because of what it is, not what it does. But since Israel withdrew its army from Lebanon in May 2000, there has not been a single Lebanese suicide attack. Similarly, since Israel withdrew from Gaza and large parts of the West Bank, Palestinian suicide attacks are down over 90 percent.
Some have disputed the causal link between foreign occupation and suicide terrorism, pointing out that some occupations by foreign powers have not resulted in suicide bombings -- for example, critics often cite post-World War II Japan and Germany. Our research provides sufficient evidence to address these criticisms by outlining the two factors that determine the likelihood of suicide terrorism being employed against an occupying force.
It is the occupation 1
You argue without any data. In short , your argument is just about what you feel and not the reality of the situation. This line of argument is typical of haters like you. How it is 72 virgins in paradise?. Ok then , where is the evidence? None as usual. You argue from fantasy.
And he paid the price by losing both of his eyes in the end.
In a battle, a soldier who cannot be distracted by distractions and must keep his mind and body focused on the mission given. Samson FAILED cos he was distracted by women (like Delilah) and he paid the price for his distractions.
Was biblical Samson in any battle when he decided for 'sacrifical death'? Same goes for the hindus when they become suicide terrorists for the LTTE. Their target were civilians. However you are very quiet on these issues. The hindu scripture that you revere exthols 'holy war'. Krishna is a god of war in the Gita.
Start the battle, great warrior… for this war opens the gates of heaven. Blessed are the warriors who fight this war, but if you don't fight, if you forsake your obligation and your honor, then you will fall into sin…[6]
I came here to kill these people… so get up, win the victory, and vanquish your foe…[7]
[6] Bhagavad Gita 2:18,32-33
[7] Bhagavad Gita 11:32-33
Where is your evidence in your baseless claim of
Muhammad was good at this, sending out letters to weaker tribes, telling them that he will come and kill them if they do not support him.
You don't have any , do you? Typical of a hater like you.
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by Sam5128
The said verse in jud16:27 stated that the people came to watch. Since when does watching an event , no matter how gory makes the person guilty? Guilt by association is a logical fallacy. Haters like you often employ such fallacy.
Say what you will. Fact is, people came to watch Samson in chains and died for their fun. They died because they have associated themselves with the guilty party, thus share their guilt as well. Full stop.
Bin Laden struggle is for the USA to change its foreign policy to stop interfering in the business of others.
And Yet, he hold no authority to do so. Who have him authority to decide how USA should behave? Who was he to tell the Saudi Arabians or Paliestines or any other Muslims in THEIR SOVEREIGN STATES how they should behave and who they should speak to? No one. He himself was just another Muhammad-wannabee, who thinks that Muslims will follow him if he yap "Allah akbar" and blow up buildings. And in the end, he died like a dog and his body was dumped into the sea to become shark bait.
Was biblical Samson in any battle when he decided for 'sacrifical death'?
Nope, because he choose revenge.
Same goes for the hindus when they become suicide terrorists for the LTTE. Their target were civilians. However you are very quiet on these issues. The hindu scripture that you revere exthols 'holy war'. Krishna is a god of war in the Gita.
LTTE did not use the name "Hindu", they used "Tamil Ellam" which means Tamil People. It have nothing to do with any religion. They fought against Sri Lankan government, NOT Buddhist followers. Their targets are civilians, unfortunately which was one reason why they did not win. It was an adharmic battle - one should never target non-combatants in a warfare.
Shri Krishna's words are for a Warrior to get up and do his duty, not for a person to strap bombs to his chest and blow himself up. What you failed to read up is that Dharmic duties of a Warrior includes fighting men of equal terms. A swordsman will only fight with another swordsman, a spear or javelin with another person with spears and javelin and a person using bows and arrows with another who is in equal footing. A person who is unharmed is allowed to leave the battlefield and one who insults another should be insulted back but not harmed. This is the dharma of warfare in Hinduism.
Hindus follows this Dharma and allowed Muslims like Muhammad Ghazni to live even so he was defeated by the Hindu Jaipur kings three times. IF Hindus did not follow adharmic ways, Islam could not set foot in India. That is Our history. |
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Sephiroth posted on 27-6-2013 02:26 PM
by Sam5128
Say what you will. Fact is, people came to watch Samson in chains and died for their fun. They died because they have associated themselves with the guilty party, thus share their guilt as well. Full stop.
Ha ha , you mean watching a spectacle was wrong and hence these people deserved to die? Association with a guilty party does not make one guilty. A person is guilty based on his action and not by association. Weird sense of justice you have. No wonder you are just a typical hater.
And Yet, he hold no authority to do so. Who have him authority to decide how USA should behave? Who was he to tell the Saudi Arabians or Paliestines or any other Muslims in THEIR SOVEREIGN STATES how they should behave and who they should speak to? No one. He himself was just another Muhammad-wannabee, who thinks that Muslims will follow him if he yap "Allah akbar" and blow up buildings. And in the end, he died like a dog and his body was dumped into the sea to become shark bait.
Bin Laden was not deciding how the USA should behave. He was trying to force them to leave the mid east. He was not telling how the arabs / Palestinians or muslims how to behave. He is simply resisting the american foreign policy. How in the world do you manage to interpret it as
how they should behave and who they should speak to
You are just farting from your mouth. Such comments again takes the top post of dunce of the week. Whether he died like a dog or what , it was his motivation and ideals that has left a legacy. It is for the US to review their foreign policy.
Nope, because he choose revenge.
Is revenge part of any religious teachings? Yes or no?
LTTE did not use the name "Hindu", they used "Tamil Ellam" which means Tamil People. It have nothing to do with any religion. They fought against Sri Lankan government, NOT Buddhist followers. Their targets are civilians, unfortunately which was one reason why they did not win. It was an adharmic battle - one should never target non-combatants in a warfare.
Shri Krishna's words are for a Warrior to get up and do his duty, not for a person to strap bombs to his chest and blow himself up. What you failed to read up is that Dharmic duties of a Warrior includes fighting men of equal terms. A swordsman will only fight with another swordsman, a spear or javelin with another person with spears and javelin and a person using bows and arrows with another who is in equal footing. A person who is unharmed is allowed to leave the battlefield and one who insults another should be insulted back but not harmed. This is the dharma of warfare in Hinduism.
Hindus follows this Dharma and allowed Muslims like Muhammad Ghazni to live even so he was defeated by the Hindu Jaipur kings three times. IF Hindus did not follow adharmic ways, Islam could not set foot in India. That is Our history.
Ha ha , you are being apologetic and trying to run away from the fact that most if not all of the suicide terrorists for the LTTE were hindus who thought they were in a holy war with the buddhists. They were just following the injunction of their god of war , krishna but taking their orders from their christian bosses. In short , the hindus have been duped by their christian leaders into fighting a hindu holy war. The verses I provided does not say fighting on a level playing field. It just state that one need to kill their enemies as commanded by their god of war , krishna or fall in sin. Therefore hinduism has the concept of holy war. What rubbish that verses stated a swordsman needs to fight with another swordsman. No war is won without strategy of deception. You are trying to twist your own Gita to wriggle yourself out of trouble.
The hindus in India lost in their wars to the muslims because they were fighting among themselves. If the muslims were to execute every hindu , there will not be any hindus left. This is a legacy that the muslims tolerated other faiths and let them be on their way.
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by sam1528
Ha ha , you mean watching a spectacle was wrong and hence these people deserved to die? Association with a guilty party does not make one guilty. A person is guilty based on his action and not by association. Weird sense of justice you have. No wonder you are just a typical hater.
Unless you are a lawyer and can back it up with facts of law, I really don't see why I should entertain your opinion in the matter. Fact is - Those people choose to be there along the guilty party and therefore, died for it.
Bin Laden was not deciding how the USA should behave. He was trying to force them to leave the mid east. He was not telling how the arabs / Palestinians or muslims how to behave. He is simply resisting the american foreign policy. How in the world do you manage to interpret it as
Oh yes he was. So is Ahmednijab and Saddam Hussien. They all have what we call "Messiah Complex" - a savior complex. They seem themselves as a great leader for Muslim nations and think by fighting USA, Muslims will follow them blindly like they did Muhammad 1,400 years ago. The fact here is - You Muslims are so damn stupid, you don't even know you are being lead around by this "leaders" like sheep to be slaughtered. Stupid Muslim sheep.
Whether he died like a dog or what , it was his motivation and ideals that has left a legacy. It is for the US to review their foreign policy.
Well, USA must have a poor reading capability, they still in the Middle-East right now. Your Osama Bin Laden (and Saddam Hussien) did nothing. And they left no legacy other than a reminded that Islam is false. That is all.
Ha ha , you are being apologetic and trying to run away from the fact that most if not all of the suicide terrorists for the LTTE were hindus who thought they were in a holy war with the buddhists.
Holy wars with the Buddhists? If your delusional mind says so. Matter a fact, I will I will "fight" with my Buddhists colleagues over a nice cup of tea later in the evening.
The hindus in India lost in their wars to the muslims because they were fighting among themselves. If the muslims were to execute every hindu , there will not be any hindus left. This is a legacy that the muslims tolerated other faiths and let them be on their way.
And IF Hindus did not listen to a Hindu leader named Mahathma Gandhi and killed every Muslims in India, you couldn't have Pakistan and Bangladesh today. So, everytime you see Pakistan and Bangladesh on the World map, remember this fact - Your life was our alm (sedekah). |
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Sephiroth posted on 28-6-2013 01:51 PM
by sam1528
Unless you are a lawyer and can back it up with facts of law, I really don't see why I should entertain your opinion in the matter. Fact is - Those people choose to be there along the guilty party and therefore, died for it.
Do you need to be a lawyer to understand what is just common sense? It is clear that you lack common sense. A person is gulity by their action and not by association.
the attribution of guilt (without proof) to individuals because the people they associate with are guilty
Don't argue without thinking.
Oh yes he was. So is Ahmednijab and Saddam Hussien. They all have what we call "Messiah Complex" - a savior complex. They seem themselves as a great leader for Muslim nations and think by fighting USA, Muslims will follow them blindly like they did Muhammad 1,400 years ago. The fact here is - You Muslims are so damn stupid, you don't even know you are being lead around by this "leaders" like sheep to be slaughtered. Stupid Muslim sheep.
Bzzzt! Wrong again. 'Messiah Complex' is when the person has this desire to redeem and save others. Ahmadinejad has stepped down after his term expired. He is now a common citizen of Iran. Saddam Hussein was a dictatator and tyrant. BTW , it was the CIA who put him and the Baath party in power. Bin Laden only wanted the americans out of the mid east. Bin Laden was the creation of the USA from the era of the Soviet invasion. Appears that you are again arguing from fantasy with no notion of reality. Whatever you have been smoking , it must be really strong.
Well, USA must have a poor reading capability, they still in the Middle-East right now. Your Osama Bin Laden (and Saddam Hussien) did nothing. And they left no legacy other than a reminded that Islam is false. That is all.
Do you know why the US is pulling out of Iraq / Afghanistan? It is because they cannot sustain their military with the constant guerrilla attacks. It is just too expensive for them. Therefore the legacy of bin Laden's will is there for all to see. Ha ha , Islam is false? You seem to easily fart from your mouth. When asked for evidence , none as usual from you and then you pretend the whole episode never happened. Is there something wrong with you?
Holy wars with the Buddhists? If your delusional mind says so. Matter a fact, I will I will "fight" with my Buddhists colleagues over a nice cup of tea later in the evening.
If you had half the mind to understand what you read , I stated of the actions and religious motivations of the hindu footsoldiers of the LTTE. You have no capability to understand what you read. How do you manage in your working life?
And IF Hindus did not listen to a Hindu leader named Mahathma Gandhi and killed every Muslims in India, you couldn't have Pakistan and Bangladesh today. So, everytime you see Pakistan and Bangladesh on the World map, remember this fact - Your life was our alm (sedekah).
At least there is a decent human by the name of Ghandi. You are probably not human . Oh well , human in form but animal in mentality. Don't you think you and people of your mentality of wanting to commit genocide of a certain religion , the best place for you / them is in the jungle? What say you?
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“The blood of a Muslim, who confesses that none has the right to be worshiped but God and that I am His Apostle, cannot be shed except in three cases: (1) a married person who commits adultery; he is to be stoned and (2) a man who went out fighting against God and His Messenger; he is to be killed or crucified or exiled from the land and (3) a man who murders another person; he is to be killed on account of it."
Let me explain to you again, the above rules supposedly apply to all muslims.
BUT THE HUGE PROBLEM IS that Sunni muslims like you do not see other muslims WHO CALL THEMSELVES MUSLIMS as muslims. Sects like Ahmadiyah and the like are termed as takfir or kafir.
I give you another example, why do you Sunni laugh at Shia prayer practices and ban them from practicing in Malaysia. In Iraq and Syria, they actually kill each other.
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nightlord posted on 29-6-2013 10:48 PM
“The blood of a Muslim, who confesses that none has the right to be worshiped but God and that I am His Apostle, cannot be shed except in three cases: (1) a married person who commits adultery; he is to be stoned and (2) a man who went out fighting against God and His Messenger; he is to be killed or crucified or exiled from the land and (3) a man who murders another person; he is to be killed on account of it."
Let me explain to you again, the above rules supposedly apply to all muslims.
BUT THE HUGE PROBLEM IS that Sunni muslims like you do not see other muslims WHO CALL THEMSELVES MUSLIMS as muslims. Sects like Ahmadiyah and the like are termed as takfir or kafir.
I give you another example, why do you Sunni laugh at Shia prayer practices and ban them from practicing in Malaysia. In Iraq and Syria, they actually kill each other.
I just don't understand this. Why do you argue on issues that you don't know heads nor tails? You are just arguing blind.
The Ahmadis or Qiadianis follow the teacings of Gulam Ahmad Mirza who claimed to be a reincarnation of Prophet Isa(as) and Prophet Muhammad(saw) all in one. With such faith , just how can these people be muslims as the syahadah has been broken. Even with reference to the said hadith , there is no injunction that such person is to be killed.
Sunnis laugh at the prayer of syiahs? Can you give me any example of what is in the prayer of the Syiah that is laughable to the sunnis? There are so many branches of syiah. Some to the extreme of worshiping Caliph Ali(ra) and the syiah themselves denounce such groups. Which syiah are you interested in bringing up?
You people call it sectarian violence. However to the Iraqis , the violence is what is leftover of the Baath party followers (who are secular in beliefs). I thought I have provided the insights by an academician to the problems in syria. No response from you.
Instead of you trying to harp and whine , why don't we just compare the theology of Islam and Christianity? Your argument is getting nowhere. When refuted , you disappear for a while and come back with the same issue but a different packaging.
Last edited by sam1528 on 29-6-2013 11:21 PM
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Evil yet imbecilic ustazy; Instead of you trying to harp and whine , why don't we just compare the theology of Islam and Christianity?........
How to compare a true religion of Jehovah God and Paganic Allah ??? Seems that the dosage of drug for the psychotic delusional ustazy should be increased liao.....
p/s: When the psychotic ustazy is cornered and desperate, his signature utter is accusing others of "harp & whine".................
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wkk5159 posted on 26-6-2013 03:32 PM
Delusional psychotic ustazy wrote;
The bible supports suicide terrorism. jud16:26-30............. ...
macam bagus je kristian ciptaan orang roman tu.
macam aku kata sebelum ni la,orang kristian pakai salib simbolik kesan dari Nabi Isa disalib.cuba bayangkan kalau nabi Isa kena sula,agak2 ko la apa yang orang kristian macam ko ni gantung kat leher korang????????
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by sam1528
Do you need to be a lawyer to understand what is just common sense? It is clear that you lack common sense. A person is gulity by their action and not by association.
In the Law, there is no place for common sense. IF Laws were to follow Common Sense, then such Laws could be a Jungle Laws, where the strong rules and the weak perish. In the case of Samson, the Laws is clear. Samson have spoken of Revenge for losing his eyes, and the people had the choice to leave the place and not partake in the festival with the guilty parties. Samson took his revenge and kill those who have wronged him, as well as those who choose to share their fate by association. The Laws are clear.
Bzzzt! Wrong again. 'Messiah Complex' is when the person has this desire to redeem and save others.
Same lah, stupid.
Ahmadinejad has stepped down after his term expired. He is now a common citizen of Iran. Saddam Hussein was a dictatator and tyrant. BTW , it was the CIA who put him and the Baath party in power. Bin Laden only wanted the americans out of the mid east. Bin Laden was the creation of the USA from the era of the Soviet invasion. Appears that you are again arguing from fantasy with no notion of reality. Whatever you have been smoking , it must be really strong.
That is why I called them Stupid Muslim sheeps, sheep.
They are being lead around (by USA and CIA) and they drag other Muslims in. Once they have power, they want to kick those who supported them (USA and CIA) out of Mideast. No wonder your masters (USA) pissed. Their sheeps are running all over the place.
If you had half the mind to understand what you read , I stated of the actions and religious motivations of the hindu footsoldiers of the LTTE. You have no capability to understand what you read. How do you manage in your working life?
I have never heard of any "holy war" between Hindus and Buddhist in Sri Lanka and I have met with both Sri Lankan Hindus and Buddhists in my work area. They don't bomb each other here either. So why should I believe your claims? Sounds like you making a claim without proof.
I say Hindus made too many mistake in name of peace, especially against false religious followers like Muslims and Christians. They should nuke Pakistan and Bangladesh to hell, and get in gear and save the rest of the Hindus elsewhere instead of allowing godless and gutless pigs like Manmohan Singh, Sonia and Abdul Kalaam to hold them back.
In the whole world, only in India that minority like Christians and Muslims are in control of the nation while majority (Hindus) are pushed to the side-lines. I say this must end and quickly too. And if that means EVERY MUSLIMS AND CHRISTIANS IN INDIA MUST DIE, IT WILL BE GOOD START. That is what I say.
Don't worry, your (Muslims here) turn will come soon enough.  |
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Sephiroth posted on 1-7-2013 10:45 AM
In the Law, there is no place for common sense. IF Laws were to follow Common Sense, then such Laws could be a Jungle Laws, where the strong rules and the weak perish. In the case of Samson, the Laws is clear. Samson have spoken of Revenge for losing his eyes, and the people had the choice to leave the place and not partake in the festival with the guilty parties. Samson took his revenge and kill those who have wronged him, as well as those who choose to share their fate by association. The Laws are clear.
Which peverted law states that a person is guilty by association? Jungle law is for people like you who aspires to eliminate people of a particular religion(s) whether they are guilty or not. What biblical Samson did was wrong. He took revenge on whom? Who was the one who blinded him? Just because a group or a couple of individuals did wrong to him (biblical Samson by blinding him) , he then took it upon himself to kill others who were just spectators because of revenge. This is crazy. If you support such notion , you are as crazy.
No it is different. Ahmadenijad / Saddam Hussein did not have any 'messiah complex'. Do you understand what your argument is all about? Appears that you don't.
That is why I called them Stupid Muslim sheeps, sheep.
They are being lead around (by USA and CIA) and they drag other Muslims in. Once they have power, they want to kick those who supported them (USA and CIA) out of Mideast. No wonder your masters (USA) pissed. Their sheeps are running all over the place.
Ha ha , the same is what is happening to you hindus in India. You have been under the yoke of foreigners for hundreds of years and still it is happening at this moment. The superpower tells you hindus in India to jump , you will ask 'how high'. In fact , what is happening to the hindus is even worse. You desire to die in battle (per the Gita) , like the LTTE footsoldiers (the suicide bombers) but take your orders from the christian leaders.
I have never heard of any "holy war" between Hindus and Buddhist in Sri Lanka and I have met with both Sri Lankan Hindus and Buddhists in my work area. They don't bomb each other here either. So why should I believe your claims? Sounds like you making a claim without proof.
They don't bomb each other here because 'here' is Malaysia. Try being in Sri Lanka at the height of the LTTE conflict. You get a couple of suicide bombings everyday. This is a fact of history. Too bad , you are poor in general knowledge.
I say Hindus made too many mistake in name of peace, especially against false religious followers like Muslims and Christians. They should nuke Pakistan and Bangladesh to hell, and get in gear and save the rest of the Hindus elsewhere instead of allowing godless and gutless pigs like Manmohan Singh, Sonia and Abdul Kalaam to hold them back.
In the whole world, only in India that minority like Christians and Muslims are in control of the nation while majority (Hindus) are pushed to the side-lines. I say this must end and quickly too. And if that means EVERY MUSLIMS AND CHRISTIANS IN INDIA MUST DIE, IT WILL BE GOOD START. That is what I say.
Don't worry, your (Muslims here) turn will come soon enough.
Err , nuking Pakistan / Bangladesh will cause the radiation to spill over to India. The secondary effect of nuclear radiation is even worse. At least the people who died in any nuclear strike die immediately but secondary radiation will cause years of suffering before death. Hindus are pushed to the side lines because of the inbuilt strata in their society. The caste system is institutionalize apartheid. That is why lots of hindus are leaving hinduism.
BTW , what caste are you? A 'pariah' or brahmin or in between?
Again you just display your animal mentality. To eliminate people of a particular religion(s) is evidence that you are not civilized in thinking. Why don't you start thinking of how to live in a cave somewhere in the jungle. Such place will probably suit you better.
Last edited by sam1528 on 1-7-2013 01:17 PM
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