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Atlantis : update ; lokasi dikesan

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Post time 4-4-2007 04:00 PM | Show all posts
rasanya kalu ada manusia yg berjaya membina vimana semula, mereka bukannya akan dapat kuasai dunia. Tapi kuasai penerokaan aeroangkasa n teknologi angkasa lepas. Dlm kitab2 ramayana/mahabrata, ada cakap pasal peperangan antara Atlantis ngan Ramayama menggunakan vimana, perjalanan ke bulan menggunakan vimana...

Maklumat pasal vimana memang byk kat Internet, tapi kebanyakkannya dlm English. X larat nak baca semuanya...
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Post time 4-4-2007 08:03 PM | Show all posts
memang betul seperti dikatakan sesiapa yg dapat membina vimana akan dapat menguasai dunia kerana menurut kitab veda, vimanas possessed "all the power of the universe" and could fly to other planets. kemungkinan besar ufo dan vimana ada kaitannya antara satu sama lain. kerana ciri2 vimana seperti yg dinyatakan dlm kitab2 hindu lama are alot like ufo spaceships. kapalnya dilengkapkan dengan senjata berbahaya, boleh menjadi lutsinar dan merentas masa. tapi sayangnya, bahan2 material yg digunakan utk membina vimana masih belum diketahui manusia zaman sekarang. kerana apa yg aku baca, catatan2 atas kertas ttg pembinaan vimana dahulu terdapat di library of alexandria yg telah dibakar suatu masa dulu.
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Post time 5-4-2007 10:30 PM | Show all posts
Should read this

http://www.lost-civilizations.net/true-history-atlantis-page-3.html


The Indonesian Islands and the Malay Peninsula that we nowadays observe are the unsunken relicts of Lemurian Atlantis, the lofty volcanic mountains that became the volcanic islands of this region, the true site of Paradise in all ancient traditions. The sunken portion of continental extension now forms the muddy, shallow bottoms of the South China Sea.


Mat salleh sendiri percaya Malaysia-Indonesia pernah tergolong dalam tamadun Lumeria
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Post time 7-4-2007 10:11 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by aizverus at 7-4-2007 04:02 PM
heran gak camner mat saleh leh percaya indon dan m.sia dalah lumeria...kalu nak tau tamadun lumeria di ranapkan oleh atlantis..tapi tamadun diaorg lebih kurang same jerk...

atlantis nampak evi ...


Lumeria ni bangsa yang bertamadun dan berteknologi tinggi. Adakah bangsa ini telah pupus? Yang benar2 asli kat kawasan kita ni duduk atas pokok, takda teknologi.
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Post time 7-4-2007 10:25 PM | Show all posts
Dan (Ingatlah) ketika Tuhanmu berfirman kepada malaikat: "Sesungguhnya Aku hendak menjadikan seorang khalifah di bumi"

Malaikat menjawab " Adakah Engkau (Ya Tuhan kami) hendak menjadikan di bumi itu org yg akan membuat bencana dan menumpahkan darah (berbunuh-bunuhan), padahal kami sentiasa bertasbih dgn memujiMu dan mensucikanMu?"  surah al-baqarah ayat 30

ini just theory aku, if you guys feel its somehow ridiculous, just ignore it. peristiwa tenggelamnya atlantis dianggarkan sekitar 11,000 BC dan dianggarkan manusia pertama wujud di bumi (Adam) adalah sekitar 4000BC..... ini mungkin menyatakan yg para malaikat sudahpun melihat kerosakan2 yg dibuat oleh manusia sebelum Adam dijadikan di muka bumi.... that might refer to atlantis...... ini menyatakan yg manusia dulu memang kejam dan suka berperang dan berbunuhan. tetapi Allah Maha Mengetahui apa yg tersirat disebaliknya.



Inilah soalan yang boleh terangkat serban jika anda tanya sama Ostad.

Sebelum Adam, sudah ada manusia di bumi. Malaikat dah tanya, aiiksss, dah ada manusia kat dunia, jahanam sana sini, bunuh sana sini, kau mahu cipta sorang lagi pulak manusia wahai Ya Allah?

Jika anda ke surau, biasanya ada suatu carta salasilah bermula daripada Nabi Adam sampai ke Nabi Muhammad. Jika saya ambil salasilah SUltan Kelantan atau Raja Perlis, saya boleh link terus keturunan mereka berdua hingga ke Nabi Muhammad (mereka berdua ialah Ahlul Baith). Bila merge kedua-dua carta ini, bleh kita bilang ada berapa generasi from nabi Adam hingga ke kita sekarang.
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Post time 7-4-2007 10:30 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by WonBin at 7-4-2007 10:25 PM





Inilah soalan yang boleh terangkat serban jika anda tanya sama Ostad.

Sebelum Adam, sudah ada manusia di bumi. Malaikat dah tanya, aiiksss, dah ada manusia kat dunia, jahan ...




Sebelum Adam, sudah ada manusia di bumi. Malaikat dah tanya, aiiksss, dah ada manusia kat dunia, jahanam sana sini, bunuh sana sini, kau mahu cipta sorang lagi pulak manusia wahai Ya Allah?


Orang Hindu kata ada 'kelahiran semula'. Dunia ini ada 'recycle'. Dimensi jugak ada recycle, multiple dimensi. sama seperti Astro, jika anda terlepas siaran pertama pada pukul 8pm, pukul 1am boleh tengok lagi, sama jugak. Sebut pasal 4th or 5th dimensioni, time travel, relativity, sakit kepala wooitt....anda kena jadi Einstien untuk paham
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Post time 8-4-2007 12:01 AM | Show all posts
wah ketinggaln zmn aku nie
byk ilmu ek yg korang tau
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Post time 8-4-2007 12:35 AM | Show all posts

Reply #149 WonBin's post

Aku rasa memang ada khalifah di muka Bumi ini sebelum Adam.Khalifah2 ini melakukan kerosakan sehingga
hari di mana mereka dikiamatkan.Proses berulang-ulang hinggalah ke Khalifah sekarang yang bergelar manusia.

Setelah khalifah2 dihapuskan(mati),mereka diadili melalui amal mereka dan dimasukkan sama ada ke syurga atau neraka.Setelah itu,Allah ciptakan pula khalifah yang seterusnya hingga ke khalifah manusia.Kemudia,kita akan dikiamatkan dan diadili sebelum ditentukan ke syurga atau neraka,seperti mana khalifah sebelum manusia melaluinya.

Sama ada Allah akan cipta satu lagi khalifah baru selepas kita dikiamatkan,itu adalah urusan peribadi Allah.  

Ini cuma teori aku,boleh jadi betul atau tidak betul....
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Post time 8-4-2007 02:25 AM | Show all posts
ni dia akhbar tahun lepas yg aku cakap pasal budak russia tu. ntah tak tau la betul ke tak cerita ni...

Akhbar Russia menggemparkan dunia apabila membuat kenyataan di slh sebuah bandar di sini, Bandar Volzhskii terdpt seorg bdak lelaki yg dtg dr Marikh. Bdak lelaki ini bernama Boriska dan kini berusia 7 thn.

Menurut akhbar Russia, bdk lelaki misteri ini mempunyai 2 keistimewaan. Pertama, Boriska mempunyai pengetahuan yg menakjudkan. Cthnya, sejarah ketamadunan Lemuria yg melebihi 8 ratus ribu thn, seorg pensyarah universiti pun x semestinnya mengetahui ketamadunan ini, mungkin ada juuga tetapi tidak lengkap. Tetapi bdak ini dpt menceritakan ttg sejarah, tamadun dan penduduk Lemuria dgn jelas. Kedua, bdak lelaki ini mempunyai pelbagai kepakaran spt bidang terminologi, menguasai data-data yg sempurna dan benar, dia juga sgt jelas dgn sejarah bumi dan juga Marikh.

Boriska ketika dilahirkan dahulu sudah boleh menatap wajah ibunya, akan tetapi bayi yg baru dilahirkan ini x dpt menumpukan perhatian pd sebarang benda. 15 hari selepas dilahirkan, dia sudah boleh mengangkat kepalanya, dia juga memahami tajuk akhbar-akhbar ketika dia berusia satu setengah tahun. ketika Boriska berusia 2 tahun, dia sentiasa bersila dan mengisahkan cerita ttg Marikh, planet-planet dan ketamadunan kuno.

Selain itu, Boriska sentiasa memberitahuu ibubapanya bahawa dia pernah mendiami Marikh. Menurut ceritanya, pd masa dahulu, Marikh pernah didiami org. Akan tetapi, disebabkan berlakunya bencana yg teruk, atmosfera Marikh serta merta musnah, dan hasilnya dilihat oleh saintis dan angkasawan masa kini. oleh itu, penduduk Marikh terpaksa meninggalkan daratan dan berpindah ke bawah tanah dan bernafas dgn pelbagai jenis gas.
"Org Marikh sgt tinggi, ketinggian mereka melebihi 7 meter dan mempunyai kekuatan yg misteri tetapi mereka suka berperang" kata Boriska .

Boriska turut memberitahu pemberita yg menemubualnya, dia sentiasa melawat bumi utk membuat siasatan ttg kehidupan bumi dgn menaiki kapal angkasanya. Menurut Boriska lagi, pendaratannya dr Marikh ke bumi berlaku pd waktu kemakmuran tamadun Lemuria, oleh itu dia mengetahui kehidupan Lemuria. Ketika itu, dia mempunyai seorg seorg kawan baik di Lemuria, tp kawan itu tlh mati didepannya. Boriska menerangkan bahawa pd masa itu, bumi mengalami bencana besar-besaran, darat sgt luas telah ditelenggami air laut yg hebat. Tiba2 batu karang besar terjatuh ke atas sebuah bangunan, kebetulan kwnnya berada disitu, dan dia langsung x sempat menyelamatkan dia.

Perkara ini tlh mendapat perhatian drp ahli2 sains Russia. Mereka tlh menjalankan kajian terhadap Boriska dan mendapati dia mempunyai "medan magnetik" yg luar biasa. Sungguhpun ahli sains percaya bhw pengetahuan yg diberitahu Boriska tidak mungkin direka, ttp pakar perubatan tidak percaya bahawa dia pernah menduduki Marikh. Misteri ini akan terus menjadi rahsia tanpa pendedahan umum oleh para saintis Russia.
Namun jika perkara yg diceritakn ini benar dan bukan spekulasi kerajaan, maka apakah yg akan terjadi pd penduduk bumi, adakah mereka dpt menerima kenyataan ataupun berlaku konflik dan mungkin akan berlaku peperangan menggunakan teknologi Marikh.

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Post time 8-4-2007 09:07 AM | Show all posts
Hoh kalau dia dilahirkan oleh mak dia yang earthling...dia pun earthling la bukan martian!
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Post time 8-4-2007 10:44 AM | Show all posts
sebab tu saya lebih suka ajaran Buddha. Budak ni reincarnation daripada penduduk Marikh. Bercakap pasal reincarnation, KITA bukan mewakili manusia, haiwan atau pun Alien. Tapi yg saya maksudkan KITA tu adalah kita yg sebenarnya. Atau pun dalam BI dipanggil Overself. Masa kita astral travel DIRI KITA yg sebenarnya ni lah yg keluar. Bukan manusia, haiwan atau pun Alien (sekali lagi). Selagi kita x mati, masa astral travel, Overself masih lagi berhubung dengan jasad (sama ada manusia, haiwan atau pun Alien) melalui Silver Cord...

Kalu bercakap pasal mende ni, sebab tu saya suka ingatkan mende ni biasanya bercanggah ngan agama Islam. Sebab tu, biasanya org Islam lebih suka mengelak dari berfikir ngan lebih lanjut atas alasan manusia ni akal terbatas. Padahal, bagi saya akal manusia x terbatas n akan sentiasa berkembang...

Kalu saya sebut SAYA, perkataan SAYA bukan mewakili manusia, sebab kita bleh lihat sendiri, dulu budak ni Overself dia lahir dalam badan Alien Marikh. Sekarang ni di reincarnate sebagai manusia. Kenapa? Jawapannya pandai-pandai lah berfikir...
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Post time 8-4-2007 11:01 AM | Show all posts

Reply #152 Navarrus's post

Thanks for the story, Navarrus. Regarding Mars, we know that probes to the planet have returned with pics of what look like evidence of past civilization. So could ther be other lives planted in other planets as well? "Adamu" in Hebrew means "man on Earth"
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Post time 8-4-2007 07:49 PM | Show all posts

Reply #156 aizverus's post

Ostad Hamipun ada cerita tang 7 orang tu...namun Hami belum buat kajian ttgnya. Ada terjumpa seorang dikalangan keturunan yang serupa tapi dah jauh juga yang serupa dengan  anak buah...............That's the closest I've seen on this subject.

Setakat ini, pada Hamilah reincarnation, ialah suatu cara manusia mencari penjelasan ttg benda yang, tanpanya, mungkin tiada penjelasannya. Memang ada banyak pemikiran ttg hal ini...seperti...maaf bukan nak menyinggung mana2 pihak....kalau seseorangtu dah semestinya reincarnate semula katakan dalam makhluk yang lebih baik .....mengapa pula harus dibakar isteri supaya menemaninya? Basically argumen dia diantara reincarnation, resurrection dan transmigration.:hmm:
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Post time 8-4-2007 09:29 PM | Show all posts

Reply #155 hamizao's post

hmm... there might be other lives on other planets as well before our race existed. and they may still exist until now. about MARS, maybe NASA know a lot of things that we dont know. they know whats inside the planet. i saw a video that there's a water flowing. and also trees, which arent similar to what we have here. there could still be lives on MARS, maybe another human race.
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Post time 8-4-2007 11:47 PM | Show all posts
seperti org kata manusia ada 7 muka yg serupa..mungkin demensi, masa dan tempat yg berbeza...


Dalam Quran pun ada cakap setiap benda itu dijadikan berpasangan. Bumi pon tentu ada pasangan jugak

Konsep 'Alam' itu sendiri masih terlalu kompleks untuk kita fahami. Einstein pon belum sempat menghuraikan dengan lengkap, dia mati dulu.

Bila ada serban atas kepala, belum tentu boleh jawab macam-macam soalan.
Tuhan suruh kita memandang ke sekeliling kita dan berfikir. Baca sahaja pon tak guna jika malas berfikir. jangan jadi seorang yang suka menghafal tanpa berani bertanya atau berdebat.

macam mana dengan tengkorak java man yang berusia dekat sejuta tahun? adakah manusia pernah hidup sekali dengan dinasour ?
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Post time 8-4-2007 11:56 PM | Show all posts
Ancient Astronauts

http://www.crystalinks.com/ancientastronauts.html
The term 'Ancient Astronauts' generally refers to extraterrestrials who
came to Earth and were in some way responsible for seeding the human race.There are references to these entities in the bible, in ancient art and other texts. They are all linked with myths about creation found in all ancient civilizations. As we search to find the truth behind the illusion, who created the human race - or biogenetic experiment - we look to those who came from the stars - ancient astronauts - creational gods - for our answers. All is theory, virtual reality, consciousness, and for the most part not proveable - subject to the interpretation of the researcher or experiencer. Most of us would love to find evidence of ancient astronauts - be visited by friendly aliens who could enlighten us to our true creational blueprint. Throughout the history of the human drama - we find all sorts of evidence that makes us think, believe, and quest for the greater truth. They are all just myths, legends, and theories... Theories about Atlantis often link sightings of ancient astronauts to Atlantean space ships. This goes to the ancient gods called the Zep Tepi. In China we find theories about an alien race called the Dropa who left behind fascinating discs. The Popol Vuh, sacred to the Mayans, unequivocally states, "Men came from the stars, knowing everything, and they examined the four corners of the sky and the Earth's round surface." Brazilian UFO researcher Jean Alencar has noted that the mythology of this country is replete with descriptions and statuettes of beings endowed with the power of flight. The legends of Brazilian natives, like those of other countries, detail experiences of gods or travelers from the sky who descended to earth when humans were little more that animals to instruct them in the arts of agriculture, astronomy, medicine, and other disciplines. Alencar points out one figure in particular, Bep-Kororoti, a space warrior worshipped by the tribes of the upper reaches of the Xing River. Not unlike the heroes of India's Mahabarata, Bep-Kororoti possessed a flying vehicle capable of destroying anything in its path. His aspect terrified the primitive natives, until he stepped out of his "raiment" and revealed himself to be fair-skinned, handsome, and kind. He amused the natives with his "magic" until he grew restless for his land in the sky and returned there. The Chilam Balaam, is even more explicit and states "Beings descended from the sky in flying vessels...white men in flying rings, who can touch the sky." There are indications that something very strange took place on our very own continent hundreds of thousands of years ago, before humans arrived on this continent (according to the canon of anthropology). Santa Maria Canyon holds evidence pointing toward the existence of a culture of intelligent beings who raised cattle, built weapons, and practiced funeral rites -- one million years ago. If we decide to stick with what academia has to say, in no way could these beings have been humans. Were they survivors of a Race of Aliens? This brings to mind theories of marooned spacemen, or colonists trying to tame a new planet? During the Prehistory Conference held during 1962 in Rome, Dr. W. Matthes presented the oldest carvings known to exist, created by a forgotten artist two hundred thousand years ago, when humans had allegedly just discovered the use of fire. Discovered by the 19th century French explorer Henri Lhote, these figures were so unusual he dubbed them Martians, explaining their contour is simple, unartistic, and with rounded heads; their only detail is the double oval at the figure's center, which evokes the image we currently have of Martians. Great Martian Gods c.6000 BC from Tassili Mountains
Sahara Desert
North AfricaLhote's round-headed denizens of the Red Planet were depicted by the primitive cave artists as wearing suits strongly reminiscent of those worn by our own astronauts on the Moon, down to the detail of the boots. Several hundred such drawings exist, scattered over many miles of desert: strange helmeted and figures with antenni, often floating in weightlessness as if the artist had been able to witness one of our modern space walks. Other images are of a technological bent, showing what could be taken as solar panels, space stations, floating spheres containing humanoid figures. Unwilling to be caught up in the ancient astronaut craze, anthropologists have suggested that the Tassili "roundheads" are merely ceremonial dancers or priests wearing empty gourds over their heads. The problem with this rational approach is that the agricultural know-how and resources to grow pumpkins were nonexistent in North Africa at the time the Tassili drawings were created, and would probably not have been available for another thousand years.
Sego Canyon, Utah, c. 5,500 BC
Val Comonica, Italy, c. 10,000 BC
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The examples of cave art found in the Spanish caverns of Ojo Guarea and Altamira, and the French ones at Lascaux and Font de Gaume, have proven that our distant ancestors were able to represent what they saw with a clarity and simplicity that is stunning to twentieth century eyes. This skill extends to depictions of things that anthropologists and archaeologists often find troublesome: equally faithful representations of domed objects, some of them in threes, others with legs or antennae. Ancient astronauts have been described as bi-pedal entities often with beaks or wings, or reptilian looking, gray aliens, ethereal, or humanoid coming and going in space craft of some kind or moving in and out of our dimension. Different theories or stories of creation cite these entities - not unlike gods from heaven who many believe seeded the human experiment and will return one day. The feeling of a god returning to Earth, a savior, if you will, who restores balance, is a metaphor in the journey of the human experiment in linear time and emotion. All virtual created by consciousness. All are theories. The Ojo Guarea complex, weaving its way for miles into the earth, poses an undecipherable riddle. In his book En Busca de la Historia Perdida (In Search of Forgotten History), Spanish author and filmmaker Juan G. Atienza states that some of the cave systems many entrances are considered "evil," and the local farmers will not till the soil near them nor even come close to them. Contained precisely within one of these "evil" points of access is an ancient petroglyph of what could only be, astounding though it might seem, a representation of the helicoidal structure of DNA. Erich von Daniken One of the strongest proponent of ancient astronaut theory is Erich von Daniken, author of several popular books on the subject. His best-selling Chariots of the Gods, published in 1968, argued that spacecraft landed long before modern humanity peopled the Earth. The ancient visitors carried out breeding experiments and produced a creature intelligent enough to have the rules of society imparted to it. These new beings invented agriculture and became the first artists, then created their own warlike civilizations. Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed by an atomic bomb. The Ark of the Covenant was allegedly an electrified transmitter that allowed Moses to communicate with the astronauts. Von Daniken claims that ancient astronauts - complete with space helmets - were carved on stelae at the Mayan city of Copan. All creational myths speak of Gods and Goddesses who came to Earth in some sort of magical scenario - or riding in chariots of fire - and creating a race called Humans. Most of these myths refer to their primary God as a Sun God meaning from the Light [male] and a moon Goddess [female]as all things in or reality are bipolar in design - duality - Sacred Geometry. In Egypt this God was called Ra, Re, Ray of Light. These gods flew in space ships and were therefore looked upon as ancient astronauts. In India the chariots were called Vimanas.

Egyptian hieroglyphs depict the same images carved in stone.Creational legends are a global phenomenon. Records of the belief systems of ancient astronauts coming to Earth can be found on Rock Art -- Ancient Sumerian clay tablets and cylinder seals, and in the Bible. The Bible speaks of the Hebrew word 'Elohim', meaning 'God' or 'those who came from the sky'.
    Elohim or Eloah is a Hebrew word related to deity, but whose exact significance is often disputed. It is the third word in the Hebrew text of Genesis and occurs frequently throughout the Hebrew Bible. In some cases (e.g. Ex. 3:4 ... Elohim called unto him out of the midst of the bush...), is generally understood to denote the God of Israel but from a neutral point of view there is no evidence proving that this originally meant one rather than several acting in accord. In other cases (e.g. Ex. 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.), it refers to the polytheistic notion of multiple gods. In still other cases, the meaning is not clear from the text, but may refer to powerful beings (e.g. Gen. 6:2 the sons of Elohim saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them for wives..., Ex. 4:16 and you [Moses] will be as Elohim to him [Aaron], Ex. 22:28 Thou shalt not curse Elohim, or curse a ruler of your people, where the parallelism suggests that Elohim may refer to human rulers).
Genesis Chapter 1:26, states 'And God said, let us make man in our own image, after our likeness'. This quote still uses the plural 'us' rather than the singular 'I', suggesting that God was not a single entity, as many of us have been brought up and conditioned to believe.
The Sumerian Epic of Gilgamesh is filled with mentions of fiery chariots and people being taken up to the garden of God. The Epic also contains a whole host of parallels to our very own old Testament. For instance, it mentions a great flood, and relates a story very close to that of Moses being cast downstream as a child. The Sumerians also had an Eden, known as Dilmun, which is described in the Epic of Enki and Ninhursag - the creation stories of both texts bear a striking resemblance. Dilumn the Alien In 1989, years just before I met Zecharia Sitchen, I did not knew about his theories about an alien race called the Anunnaki, and an ancient civilization called Sumer As a psychic medium, I talked with a Reptilian alien who called himself Dilmun. I also did not realize at the time that Dilmun is associated with ancient sites on the islands of Bahrain in the Persian Gulf. Reptilians, snakes, dragons, are all metaphors for human DNA - as a biogenetic experiment.
Nibiruan Gods on EarthDilmun told me about a civilization that was destroyed - its inhabitants leaving on a planetoid named Nibiru and coming to Earth. [Tales of destruction of an alien planet, whose inhabitants came to Earth and seed a race, are common in the grid program of our reality. They are just myths and metaphors.] Dilmun said he was six hundred years old as we measure time. [6=flower of life metaphor] His people were warriors, conquering planets for gold and riches. [gold - alchemy of time and consciousness] He did say he would return one day, as all myths speculate. It was years later that I would discover that I was connecting with the grid system - matrix - akashic records - hall of records through which we virtually experience in linear time. Zecharia SitchenThe Sumerian cuneiform deciphering skills of Zecharia Sitchen, a linguist in command of many ancient languages, has set the scientific world on its ear with his astounding interpretations of ancient writings. In 1976, Sitchin's first book, The Twelfth Planet - Planet 'X' - began an odyssey that has literally transformed the field of ancient history. Sitchen says this planetoid named Nibiru. This planet, unlike the other planets in our solar system, has an elliptical orbit and moves clockwise rather than counterclockwise. Nibiru's orbit passes through our solar system only once every 3,600 years, which is equal to one Nibiruan year. Nibiru is called the 12th planet or Planet 'X'. [Metaphors ::12 Around 1 and 'X' as 10 = 1= new beginnings. 10 = 1010 binary code - as our reality is a computer program.] Sitchen's controversial theory is based on his interpretation of ancient Sumerian texts, with its origin in the Bible, in the book of Genesis. Sitchin has spent decades as an archeologist and historian in the Middle East, researching ancient writings from the Sumerian civilization into a 5-part paperback series, The Earth Chronicles, documenting the Nibiruan interaction on Earth in ancient times. Nibiru is allegedly inhabited by the Anunnaki - Nefilim - Elohim - Giants of the Bible - Those Who From Heaven To Earth Came. They are allegedly a Reptilian Race. The Dogon Tribe of Africa also have a fascinating creational myth that speaks of a race of reptoid aliens, Nommos, who came to Earth from Sirius, embuing the Dogon with ancient wisdom, that in the 20th century, would be proven as fact. The Dogons originated with ancient Egypt, [Middle East - area of the Cradle of Civilization] the source of their knowledge perhaps coming from ancient Egyptian priests. There is also a resemblance in alien description of the Nommo and Anunnaki.
Dogon GodsAccording to Sitchen, the Nibiruans landed on Earth, colonized it, mining the Earth for gold and other minerals, establishing a spaceport in what today is the Iraq-Iran area - the Cradle of Civilization - and lived in a kind of idealistic society as a small colony. They genetically interfered in our indigenous DNA to create a slave-race to work their mines, farms, and other enterprises in Sumer. They created HuMans, Homo Sapiens, through genetic manipulation with themselves and ape man Homo Erectus. The Great Flood allegedly was an attempt to destroy the slave races of humanity by the Nibirians because they had rebelled against their Nibiruian Gods - Enlil and Enki - who were in a heated dispute over whether to destroy or preserve the slave races. Every 3,600 years Nibiruan will return for more gold. This myth is based on the same Sacred -Creational Geometry Grids that is found in all other myths. The patterns - 6, 12, 24, and 36 are here once again. From Zecharia Sitchen's Earth ChroniclesEvents Before the DelugeYears Ago: 450,000 on Nibiru, a distant member of our solar system, life faces slow extinction as the planet's atmosphere erodes. Deposed by Anu, the ruler Alalu escapes in a spaceship and finds refuge on Earth. He discovers that Earth has gold that can be used to protect Nibiru's atmosphere. 445,000 Led by Enki, a son of Anu, the Anunnaki land on Earth, establish Eridu -Earth Station I - for extracting gold from the waters of the Persian Gulf. 430,000 Earth's climate mellows. More Anunnaki arrive on Earth, among them Enki's half-sister Ninhursag, Chief Medical Officer. 416,000 As gold production falters, Anu arrives on Earth with Enlil, the heir apparent. It is decided to obtain the vital gold by mining it in southern Africa. Drawing lots, Enlil wins command of Earth Mission; Enki is relegated to Africa. On departing Earth, Anu is challenged by Alalu's grandson. 400,000 Seven functional settlements in southern Mesopotamia include a Spaceport (Sippar), Mission Control Center (Nippur), a metallurgical center (Shuruppak). The ores arrive by ships from Africa; the refined metal is sent aloft to orbiters manned by Igigi, then transferred to spaceships arriving periodically from Nibiru. 380,000 Gaining the support of the Igigi, Alalu's grandson attempts to seize mastery over Earth. The Enlilites win the War of the Olden Gods. 300,000 The Anunnaki toiling in the gold mines mutiny. Enki and Ninhursag create Primitive Workers through genetic manipulation of Ape woman; they take over the manual chores of the Anunnaki. Enlil raids the mines, brings the Primitive Workers to the Edin in Mesopotamia. Given the ability to procreate, Homo Sapiens begin to multiply. 200,000 Life on Earth regresses during a new glacial period. 100,000 Climate warms again. The Anunnaki (the biblical Nefilim), to Enlil's growing annoyance marry the daughters of Man. 75,000 The "accursation of Earth" - a new Ice Age-begins. Regressive types of Man roam the Earth . Cro-Magnon man survives. 49,000 Enki and Ninhursag elevate humans of Anunnaki parentage to rule in Shuruppak. Enlil, enraged. plots Mankind's demise. 13,000 Realizing that the passage of Nibiru in Earth's proximity will trigger an immense tidal wave, Enlil makes the Anunnaki swear to keep the impending calamity a secret from Mankind. Events After the DelugeB.C. 11,000 Enki breaks the oath, instructs Ziusudra/Noah to build a submersible ship. The Deluge sweeps over the Earth; the Anunnaki witness the total destruction from their orbiting spacecraft. Enlil agrees to grant the remnants of Mankind implements and seeds; agriculture begins in the highlands. Enki domesticates animals. 10,500 The descendants of Noah are allotted three regions. Ninurta, Enlil's foremost son, dams the mountains and drains the rivers to make Mesopotamia habitable; Enki reclaims the Nile valley. The Sinai peninsula is retained by the Anunnaki for a post-Diluvial spaceport; a control center is established on Mount Moriah (the future Jerusalem). 9780 Ra/Marduk, Enki's firstborn son, divides dominion over Egypt between Osiris and Seth. 9330 Seth seizes and dismembers Osiris, assumes sole rule over the Nile Valley. 8970 Horus avenges his father Osiris by launching the First Pyramid War. Seth escapes to Asia, seizes the Sinai peninsula and Canaan. 8670 Opposed to the resulting control of all the space facilities by Enki's descendants, the Enlilites launch the Second Pyramid War. The victorious Ninurta empties the Great Pyramid of its equipment. Ninhursag, half-sister of Enki and Enlil, convenes peace conference. The division of Earth is reaffirmed. Rule over Egypt transferred from the Ra/Marduk dynasty to that of Thoth. Heliopolis built as a substitute Beacon City. 8500 The Anunnaki establish outposts at the gateway to the space facilities; Jericho is one of them. 7400 As the era of peace continues, the Anunnaki grant Mankind new advances; the Neolithic period begins. Demi-gods rule over Egypt. 3800 Urban civilization begins in Sumer as the Anunnaki reestablish there the Olden Cities, beginning with Eridu and Nippur. Anu comes to Earth for a pageantful visit. A new city, Uruk (Erech), is built in his honor; he makes its temple the abode of his beloved granddaughter Inanna/lshtar. Kingship on Earth3760 Mankind granted kingship. Kish is first capital under the aegis of Ninurta. A calendar came into use at Nippur. Civilization blossoms out in Sumer (the First Region). 3450 Primacy in Sumer transferred to Nannar/Sin. Marduk proclaims Babylon "Gateway of the Gods." The "Tower of Babel" incident. The Anunnaki confuse Mankind's languages. His coup frustrated, Marduk/Ra returns to Egypt, deposes Thoth, seizes his younger brother Dumuzi who had betrothed Inanna. Dumuzi accidentally killed; Marduk imprisoned alive in the Great Pyramid. Freed through an emergency shaft, he goes into exile. 3100 - 350 years of chaos ends with installation of first Egyptian Pharaoh in Memphis. Civilization comes to the Second Region. 2900 Kingship in Sumer transferred to Erech. Inanna given dominion over the Third Region; the Indus Valley Civilization begins. 2650 Sumer's royal capital shifts about. Kingship deteriorates. Enlil loses patience with the unruly human multitudes. 2371 Inanna falls in love with Sharru-Kin (Sargon). He establishes new capital city. Agade (Akkad). Akkadian empire launched. 2316 Aiming to rule the four regions, Sargon removes sacred soil from Babylon. The Marduk-Inanna conflict flares up again. It ends when Nergal, Marduk's brother, journeys from south Africa to Babylon and persuades Marduk to leave Mesopotamia. 2291 Naram-Sin ascends the throne of Akkad. Directed by the warlike Inanna, he penetrates the Sinai peninsula, invades Egypt. 2255 Inanna usurps the power in Mesopotamia; Naram-Sin defies Nippur. The Great Anunnaki obliterate Agade. Inanna escapes. Sumer and Akkad occupied by foreign troops loyal to Enlil and Ninurta. 2220 Sumerian civilization rises to new heights under enlightened rulers of Lagash. Thoth helps its king Gudea build a ziggurat-temple for Ninurta. 2193 Terah, Abraham's father, born in Nippur into a priestly-royal family. 2180 Egypt divided; followers of Ra/Marduk retain the south; Pharaohs opposed to him gain the throne of lower Egypt. 2130 As Enlil and Ninurta are increasingly away, central authority also deteriorates in Mesopotamia. Inanna's attempts to regain the kingship for Erech does not last. The Fateful CenturyB.C. continued ... 2123 Abraham born in Nippur. 2113 Enlil entrusts the Lands of Shem to Nannar; Ur declared capital of new empire. Ur- Nammmu ascends throne, is named Protector of Nippur. A Nippurian priest-Terah, Abraham's father - comes to Ur to liaison with its royal court. 2096 Ur-Nammu dies in battle. The people consider his untimely death a betrayal by Anu and Enlil. Terah departs with his family for Harran. 2095 Shulgi ascends the throne of Ur, strengthens imperial ties. As empire thrives, Shulgi falls under charms of Inanna, becomes her lover. Grants Larsa to Elamites in exchange for serving as his Foreign Legion. 2080 Theban princes loyal to Ra/Marduk press northward under Mentuhotep I. Nabu, Marduk's son, gains adherents for his father in Western Asia. 2055 On Nannar's orders, Shulgi sends Elamite troops to suppress unrest in Canaanite cities. Elamites reach the gateway to the Sinai peninsula and its Spaceport. 2048 Shulgi dies. Marduk moves to the Land of the Hittites. Abraham ordered to southern Canaan with an elite corps of cavalrymen. 2047 Amar-Sin (the biblical Amraphel) becomes king of Ur. Abraham goes to Egypt, stays five years, then returns with more troops. 2041 Guided by Inanna, Amar-Sin forms a coalition of Kings of the East, launches military expedition to Canaan and the Sinai. Its leader is the Elamite Khedor-la'omer. Abraham blocks the advance at the gateway to the Spaceport. 2038 Shu-Sin replaces Amar-Sin on throne of Ur as the empire disintegrates. 2029 Ibbi-Sin replaces Shu-Sin. The western provinces increasingly to Marduk. 2024 Leading his followers, Marduk marches on Sumer, enthrones himself in Babylon. Fighting spreads to central Mesopotamia. Nippur's Holy of Holies is defiled. Enlil demands punishment for Marduk and Nabu; Enki opposes, but his son Nergal sides with Enlil. As Nabu marshals his Canaanite followers to capture the Spaceport, the Great Anunnaki approve of the use of nuclear weapons. Nergal and Ninurta destroy the Spaceport and the errant Canaanite cities. 2023 The winds carry the radioactive cloud to Sumer. People die a terrible death, animals perish, the water is poisoned, the soil becomes barren. Sumer and its great civilization lie prostrate. Its legacy passes to Abraham's seed as he begets -at age 100- a legitimate heir: Isaac.
BaalbekRecent evidence dates the site to 8000 B.C. The stones are perfect constructed for predicting and sighting a wide variety of astronomical alignments including the precession of the equinoxes. There are a total of 60 standing stones and lintels, the classic Anunnaki sexagesimal number which is also embedded in our standard of time (60 seconds X 60 minutes=3,600, the number of years in Nibiru's orbit). This massive three million square foot stone platform contains huge stones, including 'The Trilithons' which each weigh 1200 tons, that's 2.4 million pounds. Much later, the Greeks and Romans built their temples on top of it. Legend has it that the Sun god Helios landed upon the platform with his fire chariot. The site is also described in the ancient flood stories of Gilgamesh. ['Flood' in this case, is a metaphor for creation from the sea - the collective unconscious - grid programs of our reality, etc.]

Enigmas -- Were they built by ancient astronauts on major points in the planetary grid?
The Great Pyramid - The Giza Plateau

Who build the Great Pyramid?

Stonehenge


Easter Island Megaliths
Large carved stone heads weighing an average of 13.78 tons are arranged all over the island. There are no known written records to explain their purpose or origin. Some of the Moai carved in the quarry are as much as 165 tons. Some suggest that the workers who vandalized the Anunnaki Nazca lines fled to Easter Island and constructed the Maoi with the techniques they learned from the Anunnaki.

The Nazca Lines of Peru
The Nazca Lines are spread over the arid plain and stretch for many kilometers with almost no deviation in the straight line sections. The lines can best be seen from the air which, suggests they may have been designed by an airborn civilization.

Pyramids of Mexico
For centuries, Teotihuacan was the Mesoamerican region's cultural, religious, political, economic, and social center. The massive temples of the Sun, Moon, citadel, temples, palaces, plazas, and paved streets were said built by a Pre-Mayan civilization. Once again, another incredible site, the builders of which are unidentified before one considers the Anunnaki paradigm. In conclusion, as souls of light, experiencing in many realms of reality, simultaneously, we are all ancient astronauts. Unidentified flying objects are reported in all corners of our planet, as they continue to intrigue with possibilities of our origins. Again, all is possible, and anything can happen through the alchemy of time and consciousness.


SUMERIAN GODS


REPTILIANS AND RELATED FILES


CREATION: GODS WITH WATER BUCKETS


AMPHIBIOUS GODS


ANCIENT AIRCRAFT
VIMANAS

EXTRATERRESTRIALS

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Ancient astronaut theories center around the proposal that the Earth has at some point in the distant past been visited by intelligent extraterrestrial beings, and that furthermore such contact is linked either to the origins of (or their developmental influence on) human cultures and technologies. These theories have been popularized (particularly in the latter half of the 20th century) by authors such as Erich von D鋘iken and Zecharia Sitchin, among others. Typically proponents of these theories put forward as evidence their interpretations of various archaeological artefacts which they deem to have been anachronous or 'beyond the (presumed) technical capabilities' attributed to the historical cultures they are associated with (see "OOPArt"). Another common theme relies upon the interpretation of depictions in certain ancient artworks as being representations of actual extraterrestrial visitors as realised by the contacted cultures.
Gaps in the historical and archaeological records and the corresponding absence of definitive explanations in certain contexts from the archaeological sciences are sometimes seized upon by these theorists, as being suggestive that these alternative ideas have a valid basis. Critics of these theories maintain however that such gaps in contemporary knowledge of the past are in no way any kind of demonstration that such alternative accounts are a necessary, or even plausible, conclusion to draw from the (lack of) available data. A number of ancient astronaut claims are made in direct opposition to the consensus scientific interpretation of evidence in situations where there are alternatives supported by more widely accepted theories.
Ancient astronaut theories may be considered a subset of paleocontact theory, a hypothesis that intelligent extraterrestrials have visited Earth. Carl Sagan, I.S. Shklovskii, and Hermann Oberth are three notable scientists who have seriously considered this possibility. Paleocontact is generally regarded as being on firmer scientific ground than the "ancient astronaut" theories of the popular presses[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipediaiting_sources][citation needed][/url], owing perhaps to the scientific training of its proponents, and their generally more guarded advancement of the hypothesis. These are not theories in the technical scientific sense of the word. Rather they are theories in the looser "popular" sense (i.e., conjecture or speculation). They should not be confused with either scientific theories or hypothesis.
The scientific community remains highly skeptical and the dominant view is that the evidence for "ancient astronaut" and paleocontact theories is undemonstrated, and that the promotion of these ideas amounts to little more than an exercise in psuedoscientific speculation[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipediaiting_sources][citation needed][/url].
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Adakah cerita ini kisah benar atau spt cerita Neil Armstrong masuk Islam?
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VIMANAS OF ANCIENT INDIA In the Vedic literature of India, there are many descriptions of flying machines that are generally called vimanas. These fall into two cate- gories: (l) manmade craft that resemble airplanes and fly with the aid of birdlike wings, and (2) unstreamlined structures that fly in a mysterious manner and are generally not made by human beings. The machines in category (l) are described mainly in medieval, secular Sanskrit works dealing with architecture, automata, military siege engines, and other mechanical contrivances. Those in category (2) are described in ancient works such as the Rg Veda, the Maha-bha-rata, the Rama-yana, and the Pura-nas, and they have many features reminis- cent of UFOs. > Ancient Indian Anti-Grav Craft
> The Story of the Vimanas
> Vimana II
> Vimanas - Ancient Aircraft


UFO'S IN 15TH CENTURY ART From UFO Briefing Document, Don BerlinerPainting of the Madonna and Saint Giovannino, in the Palazzo Vecchio in Florence, attrbuted to the 15th Century school of filippo Lippi. Photographs courtesy of CUFOS
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Top 10 Ancient Civilizations With Advanced Technology
David Hatcher Childress, Atlantis Rising, Issue No. 1

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Summary: Like a real life Indiana Jones, maverick archeologist David Hatcher Childress has taken many incredible journeys to some of the oldest and most remote spots on earth. We caught up with him shortly before taking off for New Guinea on yet another archeological expedition and asked him if he would be willing to write an exclusive for Atlantis Rising on the Top 10 Ancient Civilizations with Advanced Technology.


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Like a real life Indiana Jones, maverick archeologist David Hatcher Childress has taken many incredible journeys to some of the oldest and most remote spots on earth. Writing prolifically of lost cities and ancient civilizations, he has produced no less than six lengthy books (the Lost Cities series) chronicling the dimly remembered glories of obscure locales from the Gobi desert to Puma Punku in Bolivia, from Mohenjo Daro to Ba'albek. We caught up with him shortly before taking off for New Guinea on yet another archeological expedition and asked him if he would be willing to write an exclusive for Atlantis Rising on the Top 10 Ancient Civilizations with Advanced Technology. He agreed to dig through his archives and give us a story. ED

1. ANCIENT MU OR LEMURIA

According to various esoteric sources, the first civilization arose 78,000 years ago on the giant continent known as Mu or Lemuria and lasted for an astonishing 52,000 years. It is sometimes said to have been destroyed in earthquakes generated by a pole shift which occurred some 26,000 years ago, or at approximately 24,000 B.C.

While Mu did not reach as high a technology, supposedly, as other later civilizations, it is, nevertheless, said to have attained some advanced technology, particularly in the building of long-lasting megalithic buildings that were able to withstand earthquakes. However, it was the science of government that is sometimes said to have been Mu's greatest achievement.

Supposedly, there was one language and one government. Education was the keynote of the Empire's success, and because every citizen was versed in the laws of the universe and was given thorough training in a profession or trade, magnificent prosperity resulted. A child's education was compulsory to the age of 21 in order for him to be eligible to attend citizenship school. This training period lasted for seven years; so the earliest age at which a person could become a citizen of the empire was 28.

2. ANCIENT ATLANTIS

It is said that when the continent of Mu sank, the oceans of the world lowered drastically as water rushed into the newly formed Pacific Basin. The relatively small islands which had existed in the Atlantic during the time of the Lemurian civilization were left high and dry by the receding ocean. The newly emerged land joined the Poseid Archipelago of the Atlantic Ocean to form a small continent. This continent is called Atlantis by historians today, though its real name was Poseid.

Atlantis is believed to have taken technology to very advanced stages, well beyond what exists on our planet today. In the book A Dweller On Two Planets, first dictated in 1884 by Phylos the Thibetan to a young Californian named Frederick Spencer Oliver, as well as in a 1940 sequel, An Earth Dweller Returns, there is mention of such inventions and devices as air conditioners to overcome deadly and noxious vapors; airless cylinder lamps, tubes of crystal illuminated by the night side forces; electric rifles, guns employing electricity as a propulsive force (rail-guns are similar, and a very new invention); mono-rail transportation; water generators, an instrument for condensing water from the atmosphere; and the Vailx, an aerial ship governed by forces of levitation and repulsion.

The sleeping clairvoyant, Edgar Cayce, in a reading spoke of the use of aeroplanes and of crystals or firestones used for energy and related applications. He also speaks of the misuse of power and warnings of destruction to come.

3. RAMA EMPIRE OF INDIA

Fortunately, the ancient books of India's Rama Empire have been preserved, unlike those of China, Egypt, Central America, Peru. Many of these ancient nations are now either desert wastelands, swallowed by thick jungle or literally at the bottom of some ocean. Yet India, despite devastation by wars and invasion, managed to maintain a large part of its ancient history.

For a long time, Indian civilization was not believed to date from much earlier than about 500 B.C., only about 200 years prior to Alexander the Great's invasion of the subcontinent. In the past century, however, the extremely sophisticated cities of Mohenjo Daro (Mound of the Dead) and Harappa have been discovered in the Indus Valley of modern-day Pakistan.

The discoveries of these cities forced archaeologists to push the dates for the origin of Indian civilization back thousands of years. A wonder to modern-day researchers, the cities were highly developed and caused leading archaeologists to believe that they were conceived as a whole before they were built: a remarkable early example of city planning. Even more remarkable is that the plumbing-sewage system throughout the large city is superior to that found in Pakistan, India, and most Asian countries today.
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