you right bro.!
sebab faktor berat, soil stuctur tanah dilereng bukt 40 darjah keatas, adalah lemah untuk menampung berat mbt yang lebih 56 ton keatas.
berlainan atas tanah rata, ia memang tak ada masalah. ini dibuktikan masa pmc-91m menaiki lereng bukit yang tiba tiba berhenti tidak boleh menaiki lereng bukit , sedangkan kedua dua belah rantai bergerak. jadi tanah dibawah rantai pmc-91m terurai. berbeza pt-91m, bergerak laju menaiki bukit. faktor ini penting jika pt-91m menggunakan jalan lereng bukit untuk mengempur musuh, yah kan lereng bukit benteng pertahanan semulajadi.
ada beberapa mbt diuji sebelum malaysia beli, T90, Oplot dan lain lain. Abram dan leo tidak diuji kerana bantahan negera jiran (bukan indonesia ye)
Hagel Talks to Indonesian Soldiers About Education, Training
By Cheryl Pellerin
American Forces Press Service
Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel prepares to board his aircraft at Halim Perdanakusuma Air Base, Indonesia, Aug. 27, 2013, for his flight to Brunei, where he will participate in a regional security conference. The secretary is on a four-nation trip in the Asia-Pacific region to deepen cooperation and discuss regional security issues. DOD photo by Marine Corps Sgt. Aaron Hostutler
ABOARD A MILITARY AIRCRAFT, Aug. 27, 2013 – In the short time he had between meetings with national leaders and a news conference in Indonesia’s capital city of Jakarta, Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel sat down yesterday with members of the Indonesian armed forces and talked about being a soldier.
After meeting earlier this week with officials in Malaysia and Indonesia, Hagel will continue his current trip with stop-offs in Brunei and the Philippines. This is Hagel’s second official visit to the Asia-Pacific region since taking office.
In Jakarta, Hagel sat at a table at the Defense Ministry alongside Defense Minister Purnomo Yusgiantoro, who had invited him to share some of his Army experiences. The secretary told the elite Indonesian soldiers sitting attentively in the audience that he fought as a relatively new soldier alongside his brother in a nearby Southeast Asian country 45 years ago.
“Well, I'm not in the same class or category with these soldiers,” Hagel said. “I did spend two years of my life in the United States Army. I fought in Vietnam in 1968, so I have some appreciation for war and for battle and what your challenges are, and [for] your training.”
A professional soldier -- one who is well trained, well led and well equipped -- is the pride of any country, the former Army sergeant said, praising the Indonesian soldiers’ professionalism.
“I know some of you have graduated and attended some of our military institutions in the United States. And we're very proud of you. We're proud of our graduates,” he said.
Hagel noted that the United States and Indonesia have many such exchanges through military exercises, training and education. People-to-people exchanges, “regardless of your profession, but in particular the military-to-military exchange, is a very solid bridge-building mechanism for countries,” he added.
Yusgiantoro invited questions from the audience, and a captain rose from his chair, describing himself as chief of operations at the 17th Airborne Infantry Brigade of the Indonesian Army Strategic Reserve Command, called Kostrad. His name, he said, is Agus Yudhoyono.
Everyone in the room recognized his last name. Just that morning, Hagel had met with the captain’s father, Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono.
The captain, who said it was an honor to have Hagel in Jakarta, had earned a master of public administration degree in 2010 from the John F. Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University in Cambridge, Mass. Then, in 2011, he completed a six-month advanced officers' course, called the Maneuver Captain's Career Course, at Fort Benning, Ga., as part of the State Department’s International Military Education and Training program. IMET awards grants for training and education to students from allied and friendly nations.
“During the six months of rigorous training, I had the opportunity to enrich my military knowledge and experience through engagement with my fellow American officers who had been deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan,” Yudhoyono said.
The captain said he engaged with Americans, learned about local traditions and cultures, and found the experience personally and professionally rewarding.
For Hagel, the captain had recommendations for enhancing cooperation between the two militaries by enhancing the education and training portions of the IMET program.
“As for education, it will be very important for us if we can have a greater opportunity to send officers for post-graduate-level education,” Yudhoyono said. “It is critical to produce our very own soldier-scholars, because we want to develop our institution into a more professional, world-class military, including to produce brilliant strategic thinkers and defense practitioners.”
Military courses also are valuable, he added, “to help officers learn to develop doctrines, tactics and procedures so we can be a more developed and a more joint fighting force.”
In terms of training, the captain said, joint exercises conducted in Indonesia and also in the United States at advanced training facilities could help the Indonesians gain experience they might not otherwise have access to.
The secretary thanked Yudhoyono for his articulate summation and added his own words about the IMET program.
“I have always believed -- and I … know President [Barack] Obama and all of the leadership of the Pentagon and the American armed forces believe strongly -- that the IMET program is one of the smartest, best investments the United States can make in relationships around the world, and in particular, for the future. And I think you and many of your colleagues are very clear examples of that,” he said.
The consequences of training and education can hardly be quantified, Hagel added, but they are important.
“[All] of you are role models. … And that comes through a lot of things,” the secretary said. “It comes through education, through training, through the professionalization of your services. IMET does that as well as any one program I think the United States has, so you can be assured that program is going to continue, and we'll continue to enhance it.”
Later, during a joint news conference with Yusgiantoro, Hagel said he fully supports a proposal by the minister to establish a military alumni association for Indonesians who have trained in the United States and participated in joint exercises, and for Americans who have trained in Indonesian schools.
“There are thousands of officers who qualify,” Hagel said, “and this is a great opportunity to continue those people-to-people ties that deeply bind our two nations and militaries.”
Presiden SBY dan PM Australia kevin Rudd. Kehangatan di atas tak turun ke bawah ...Foto: indonesia.embassy.gov.au
Canberra, Sayangi.com - Suvei berkata, hampir 50% orang Australia percaya, Indonesia adalah ancaman nyata bagi keamanan nasional mereka. Demikian ditulis media lokal The Australian, Selasa (27/8).
Dalam jajak pendapat yang diadakan Departemen Luar Negeri dan Perdagangan Australia, lebih banyak orang Australia (59 persen) yang beranggapan bahwa dasar pengambilan keputusan di Indonesia lebih banyak menggunakan hukum Islam. Ketimbang yang menganggap alas pengambilan keputusan berdasarkan demokrasi hanya 47 persen.
Survei diadakan terhadap 1.202 orang oleh Newspoll tahun 2012 dan belum pernah dirilis ini menampakkan adanya perbedaan antara persepsi tentang Indonesia di tingkat masyarakat Australia dengan persepsi di tingkat pejabat pemerintah. Kehangatan hubungan diplomatik Indonesia-Australia seperti dipertontonkan para pejabat kedua negara di media massa tak terlihat dalam beragam jajak pendapat yang diadakan di masyarakat Negeri Kanguru itu.
"Meskipun sepertiga warga Australia pernah mengunjungi Indonesia, namun pengetahuan faktual mereka tentang Indonesia masih sangat kurang," bilang Newspoll. Contohnya saja, dua kata yang paling sering muncul di benak orang Australia terkait Indonesia ternyata "liburan" dan "Muslim", sementara hampir seperlima orang Australia bahkan percaya, Bali itu negara tersendiri. Walah ...
Lebih dari dua pertiga orang Australia melihat Indonesia sebagai sarang koruptor, dan hanya seperempat yang menilai Indonesia sudah memiliki sistem politik yang baik. Para peneliti meyakini, selama prasangka masih menang atas fakta, tampaknya akan selalu ada risiko para politisi Australia bermain-main dengan prasangka itu, untuk memperoleh keuntungan politik sesaat. (MSR/The Australian)
zeck19 posted on 30-8-2013 03:52 PM
sikit pembetulan bro.. pihak atm tak setuju dengan enjin asal. jadi poland telah menukar enjin pt- ...
ah..thank's.. nanti aku cuba tengok spesifikasi enggine tu kat google..
untuk tank indonesia tu sebenarnya secara personal aku malu juga lah, sebab negara sebesar indonesia lambat sangat nak beli tank, sedang negara2 tetangga sudahlah punya sejak lama lagi. but lebih baik lambat daripada tak da kan.. hahaha insya allah bro, nanti aku atau teman2 aku yg lain tepek gambar kat sini..
hears some rumours kalau ATM use klub K missile.. jika hal tersebut benar.. congrats !!! semoga dimasa hadapan SEA bisa mandiri dalam menjaga kawasan.. tak perlu lagi mana mana angkatan luar membantu keamanan kawasan sendiri..
Delegates of the 7th ASEAN Defense Ministers' Meeting Retreat (ADMM Retreat) pose for family photos in Seri Begawan, Brunei,August 28, 2013. ASEAN defense chiefs are arriving Tuesday for the 7th ASEAN Defense Ministers' Meeting Retreat (ADMM Retreat) in Brunei to discuss cooperation and promotion of regional peace and stability.
kangsapar posted on 30-8-2013 09:46 PM
ah..thank's.. nanti aku cuba tengok spesifikasi enggine tu kat google..
untuk tank indonesia tu ...
berkaitan dengan mbt, mungkin indonesia ada doktrin sendiri, maka mbt bukan keperluan.
tapi sekarang dah jadi satu asset yang wajib untuk setiap angkatan tentera di dunia..
baik aman, apatah lagi dalam krisis. lihat saja germany, spain, portugal, even canada yang tiada krisis dengan usa pun ada mbt.
club - k.. seperti yang dilapurkan dalam malajah sahaja.. tapi kementerian pertahanan belum release lagi perolehan itu, walaupun club-k ini telah ditunjukan kepada kerajaan malaysia sebelum ini semasa lima 2013 di langkawi.
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Ini perbandingan kekuatan militer Indonesia vs Malaysia
Lembaga analisa militer Global Firepower merilis kekuatan Indonesia kini berada di urutan 15 dunia sejak Juni 2013. Dari data situs khusus militer tersebut, Indonesia jauh mengungguli Malaysia. Negeri jiran tersebut hanya berada di urutan 33.
"Indonesia memodernisasi militernya untuk menghadapi ancaman teroris dan juga menghadapi serangan dari luar dengan sama baiknya," tulis situs globalfirepower.com.
Sementara keunggulan Malaysia adalah bersekutu dengan negara persemakmuran di bawah Inggris seperti Singapura, dan Selandia Baru untuk menjaga keamanan kawasan.
Penelusuran merdeka.com, berikut perbandingan kekuatan militer Indonesia dan Malaysia ditinjau dari beberapa aspek seperti ditulis globalfirepower.com.
1. Jumlah personel militer dan cadangan
Jumlah personel militer aktif
Indonesia: 438.410
Malaysia: 80.000
Pasukan cadangan
Indonesia: 400.000
Malaysia: 321.300
Penduduk yang bisa dijadikan tentara
Indonesia: 107.538.660
Malaysia: 12.422.580
2. Kekuatan Darat
Tank Baja
Indonesia: 400
Malaysia 69
Kendaraan lapis baja
Indonesia: 506
Malaysia: 1.229
Artileri jarak jauh
Indonesia: 62
Malaysia: 22
Peluncur roket
Indonesia: 50
Malaysia: 36
Mortir
Indonesia: 3.350
Malaysia: 1.200
Senjata antitank
Indonesia: 11.000
Malaysia: 329
Kendaraan angkut logistik
Indonesia: 11.100
Malaysia: 13.200
3. Kekuatan Laut
Kapal perang
Indonesia: 150
Malaysia: 55
Kapal selam
Indonesia: 2
Malaysia: 2
Kapal pendarat pasukan
Indonesia: 26
Malaysia: 1
Kapal kelas korvet
Indonesia: 23
Malaysia: 4
Kapal kelas frigat
Indonesia: 6
Malaysia: 4
Kapal dagang
Indonesia: 1.340
Malaysia: 315
Pelabuhan Laut Utama
Indonesia: 9
Malaysia: 5
Kapal Patroli
Indonesia: 70
Malaysia: 25
4. Kekuatan Udara
Kekuatan pesawat udara
Indonesia: 444
Malaysia: 244
Helikopter
Indonesia: 187
Malaysia: 94
Lapangan udara dan airport
Indonesia: 676
Malaysia: 117
5. Faktor penunjang lain
Anggaran pertahanan
Indonesia: USD 5.220.000.000
Malaysia: USD 4.223.000.000
Produksi minyak
Indonesia: 982.900 barel per hari
Malaysia: 603.400 barel per hari
Konsumsi minyak
Indonesia: 1.115.000 barel per hari
Malaysia: 536.000 barel per hari
Cadangan minyak
Indonesia: 3.885.000.000 barel per hari
Malaysia: 5.800.000.000 barel per hari
Luas daratan
Indonesia: 1.904.596 km2
Malaysia: 329.847
Panjang garis pantai
Indonesia: 54.716 km
Malaysia: 4.675 km
zeck19 posted on 2-9-2013 06:29 PM
congratulate.. bro
this not only about military technology..
thank's..
tetapi kami masih jauh dari kata maju, masih sangat banyak yang harus kami pelajari, tetapi kos dan bajet yang besar masa R&D masih menjadi halangan. kami berusaha keras membuat alutsista sendiri karena sudah berulang kali negara kami kena sekatan dan selalu harus menurut dengan kemauan pihak asing.. u know who kan.. syukur2 ada negara lain yang mahu ikut membelinya.. jika tak pun, kami tidak begitu kesulitan jika dimasa hadapan harus kena banned lagi dengan pihak lain. semoga malaysia juga memperkuat industri pertahanannya, agar kita dimasa hadapan bisa mandiri dan tanpa bergantung sepenuhnya dengan negara luar..
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percaya kok sama global fire power.. liat negara dibawah indo aja gw dah ngakak.. jepang kalah lawan indo? wkwkwkwk.. mimpi basah dah tuh..
untuk kalangan formil indonesia.. global fire power ga dipakai sama sekali.. ntah metode dan dasar apa mereka bisa membuat kesimpulan seperti itu.
Rabu, 04 September 2013 | 08:10 WIB Dahlan Iskan Kunjungi Anak Usaha PT DI di Amerika
TEMPO.CO, Jakarta -Menteri BUMN Dahlan Iskan sengaja menyempatkan diri mengunjungi salah satu anak usaha PT Dirgantara Indonesia (Persero) di Seattle di Amerika, IPTN North America, Inc. (INA, Inc.). INA bergerak di bidang usaha pemasok suku cadang  pesawat terbang.
�Tidak hanya untuk PTDI tapi juga negara-negara lain, bahkan lebih besar (pasokannya) ke negara-negar lain,� kata Dahlan dalam rilis yang diterima Tempo, Rabu 4 September 2013.
Ia mengatakan kedatangannya untuk mendiskusikan hal yang bisa dilakukan untuk meningkatkan usaha di negeri Abang Sam tersebut. �Ada tujuh program yang dirumuskan dalam rapat kemarin, termasuk apa yang bisa dilakukan untuk bekerja sam dengan industri pesawat terbang di AS,� kata dia.
Secar garis besar, ia menggambarkan kondisi INA yang sudah mandiri secara korporasi. �Menurut Direktur Utamanya, Gautama Indra Djaja sudah tiga tahun ini INA bisa mandiri dan tidak dapt subsidi dari induknya di Bandung,� kata dia.
Setelah mengunjungi bangunan dua lantai milik INA, Dahlan kemudian memenuhi undangan masyarakat Indonesia yang ada Seattle. Dalam acara itu ia mengatakan banyak didiskusikan masalah diaspora dan ekonomi Indonesia. â?œHadir di acara tersebut tenaga-tenaga ahli yang bekerja di Seattle antara lain di Pabrik pesawat Boeing dan di Microsoft," katanya.
Seperti diketahui Dahlan sangat menaruh minatnya pada perkembangan PT DI. Dalam berbagai kesempatan ia selalu berusaha mejadi �sales� PT DI baik dalam negeri maupun luar negeri. Pada November tahun lalu bahkan ia mengunjungi kediaman pendiri PT DI, B.J. Habibie untuk belajar resep menghidupkan kembali PT DI.
Indonesia to Nurture Domestic Arms Industry
September 2, 2013.
Tags: Apache Helicopter, Dirgantara Indonesia, Indonesia arms industry
Indonesia’s defense minister has urged local aerospace firm Dirgantara Indonesia to develop a domestic attack helicopter. (AFP Photo)
The minister of defense has urged state aerospace manufacturer Dirgantara Indonesia to develop and build the country’s own type of attack helicopter to complement the fleet of Apache gunships purchased in a recent deal from the United States.
Minister Purnomo Yusgiantoro said at the weekend that the eight Apache AH-64 attack helicopters ordered for the Army would only make up half a squadron.
“We should strive to fill up the rest of the squadron with domestically produced aircraft,” he said.
He added that he hoped any helicopter designed by DI would not be inferior to the Apache in terms of specifications and capabilities.
“It might probably be below the Apache in terms of specifications, but it shouldn’t lag far behind in terms of capability,” he said.
He said the government’s long-term plan was to nurture the budding domestic arms industry so that over time the Indonesian armed forces could gradually replace their foreign weapons systems with locally developed and manufactured ones.
But to meet current requirements, Purnomo went on, the government would have to rely on importing equipment and arms from abroad.
The minister declined to divulge how much the purchase last week of the eight Apache helicopters cost, saying only that the cost was justified, given the specifications of the aircraft.
Officials confirmed that the sale represented the culmination of more than a year of behind-the-scenes work by Indonesia, which saw the helicopters as a key part of a wider plan to modernize its weapons systems.
A 14-person delegation traveled to a Boeing factory in Arizona last week to inspect the aircraft.
On meeting the Indonesian delegation, Boeing business development manager Dave Bostrum said the deal was important to the evolution of the Indonesian military.
“The Apache is expected to be a key part of Indonesia’s continuing efforts to improve its strategic defense capabilities,” he said.
When it first emerged that Indonesia wanted to acquire the helicopters, two human rights groups — the East Timor Action Network and the West Papua Advocacy Team — wrote to the US Congress expressing opposition to the sale, arguing that the aircraft would only exacerbate the persecution of suspected separatists in Papua.
Indonesia’s defense preparedness has lagged in recent years, with economic problems preventing the country from maintaining or upgrading its military equipment. During his first term, President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono slashed defense purchases to free up money for economic and social policies, but he later increased the defense budget.
Keberhasilan pemerintah dalam pengadaan alat utama sistem pertahanan (alutsista) membuat banyak pihak yakin TNI akan memiliki kekuatan yang cukup memadai. Salah satunya diungkapkan oleh Menteri Pertahanan Purnomo Yusgiantoro.
Dengan keyakinannya, Purnomo mengatakan pada 2014 mendatang, TNI akan memiliki daya kekuatan yang terbesar di antara negara lain di Asia Tenggara.
"Renstra pertama 2014, kekuatan TNI yang terkuat di Asia Tenggara," kata Purnomo saat meresmikan dua Kapal Republik Indonesia di Batam, Kamis (5/9), seperti dilansir Antara.
Alasan itu diungkapkannya tercermin dari pengadaan alutsista oleh pemerintah yang melengkapi TNI AL, TNI AU dan TNI AD dengan senjata dan peralatan baru.
Dia menambahkan, ada banyak alutsista yang ditambah untuk ketiga angkatan bersenjata, di antaranya kapal patroli cepat untuk TNI AL, tank leopard untuk TNI AD dan penambahan pesawat sukhoi untuk TNI AU.
"Sukhoi akan diganti semua. Negara kita akan kuat, itu penting," kata Menteri.
Khusus TNI AD, selain membeli 45 unit tank leopard, pemerintah juga mengadakan 28 unit helikopter dan delapan unit Apache tipe AH-64E. Purnomo menilai, TNI yang kuat memiliki banyak arti, baik bagi dalam negeri maupun luar negeri.
Meski begitu, Purnomo mengatakan penambahan alutsista dan penguatan TNI tidak ada hubungannya dengan pendirian pangkalan militer AS di Singapura dan Australia.
"Ini tidak untuk perlombaan senjata, ini memordernisasi," katanya.
Di tempat yang sama, Kepala Staf TNI Angkatan Laut (Kasal) Laksamana Madya Marsetio mengatakan, pemerintah merencanakan pembangunan Kapal Cepat Rudal dengan panjang 40 meter sebanyak 16 unit dan kapal patroli cepat sebanyak 16 unit.
kangsapar posted on 7-9-2013 01:50 AM
baru juga datang mau diganti aja.. ganti apaan? wkwkwkwk
itu paling cuma ganti avionik buat yg ...
jangan lupa.. vietnam bro..
tentera mereka sudah ada sejarah menentang france, china juga usa..
itu belum lagi dengan tentera jiran..
sukhoi su30 mereka juga sudah 36.. heli tempur.. banyak.
submerine kilo class dah ada 6..
tu belum mbt mereka dgan jumlah 1000 keatas..
kalau malaysia ada 46 pt-91m join dengan indonesia ada 100 leo.. boleh gawat juga berdepan dengan mereka..
pernah kami membuat latihan bersama dengan sf mereka.. solute juga..
sebab sf meraka juga didikan dari kopassus..negara anda.
mereka lebih hebat kalau tektik gerila, perang saraf, hit and run.. kerana jeneral jeneral perang mereka sekarang ada pengalaman bertempur dengan amerika dan france ketika mereka masih usia muda
pertanyaan, bro.. kenapa tni-au tidak memesan su-30 dalam varian yang sama..
maksud saya, kenapa ada varian skm, mkk dan mk2..
kalau varian yang ada sekarang, mahu diupgrade seperti mk2 yang baru diterima, tentu melibatkan kos, juga masa..
Post time 30-8-2013 08:31 AM
, mo tanya ..ada kbr terbaru ttg Changbogo kita gak ?
