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Jesus never claimed to be God!!!

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Mat Kampong This user has been deleted
Post time 14-4-2004 08:39 AM | Show all posts |Read mode
Bismi-lLahi-rRahmani-rRahiem
Assalaamu Alaikum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuhu.., I pray that this reaches you all in the best of health and iman.

MK is not asking you to stop believing in Jesus, peace be upon him. Jesus was NOT a liar but the Bible's New Testament is the book that is full of lies and man-made corruptions and alterations. Jesus was not perfect. The tough situations Jesus was put through clearly took away his "perfection" and showed that he can not be the Creator of the Universe. But the Jesus of Islam never claimed to be perfect, nor ever claimed to be God or Allah.

So the least MK is asking from you, CARI's Religion Forummer, is that if you're a Trinitarian Christian, then you should desert this stupidity immediately!!

MK truly wish and pray that you do embrace Islam; the True Divine Religion of Allah Almighty. But if you can't, then at least desert this polytheist and pagan practice, so you would at least have some chance to be saved in the End:
"Say: He is God, the One and Only; God, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; And there is none like unto Him. (The Noble Quran, 112:1-4)"

Jesus was no Creator, and even your very own corrupted Bible's New Testament proves it. Need MK also remind you that Jesus did not know when the Hour would come?
"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. (From the NIV Bible, Matthew 24:36)"

My friend and brother/sister in humanity, desert the stupidity of trinity immediately so you can be saved. Otherwise, you have only yourself to blame.

And only Allah knows best! WAllahu A'lam bi As-Sawab!
Wasalaamu Alaikum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuh..
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Post time 14-4-2004 09:13 AM | Show all posts
>>MK is not asking you to stop believing in Jesus, peace be upon him.<<

actually i don't give 2 hoot what u are asking me.




* He is the Creator (Colossians 1:16
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Post time 14-4-2004 11:45 AM | Show all posts

huh

the bible is so many contra la....
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Post time 14-4-2004 12:46 PM | Show all posts
Who wrote the bible and when?
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Post time 14-4-2004 12:51 PM | Show all posts
Jesus did claim to be God and accepted worship from the people.
Not only that, His coming was prophesied.
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Post time 14-4-2004 12:57 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 13-4-04 08:51 PM:
Jesus did claim to be God and accepted worship from the people.
Not only that, His coming was prophesied.

Who wrote the bible and when?
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Post time 14-4-2004 01:20 PM | Show all posts
You are detracting from the issue Darsita.
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Terong Pipit This user has been deleted
Post time 14-4-2004 01:21 PM | Show all posts
[quote]Originally posted by RedChaSiew at 2004-4-14 01:13:
actually i don't give 2 hoot what u are asking me.

* He is the Creator (Colossians 1:16
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Post time 14-4-2004 01:24 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 13-4-04 09:20 PM:
You are detracting from the issue Darsita.

Please answer my question.

Thank you
Darsita
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Post time 14-4-2004 01:26 PM | Show all posts
Yu are detracting from the issue.
If yu want to know the answer, start another thread.
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Post time 14-4-2004 01:26 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 2004-4-14 04:51:
Jesus did claim to be God and accepted worship from the people.
Not only that, His coming was prophesied.


Debmey,

When Jesus did claim to be God? Proof, please.

When did Jesus accepted worship from the people? Proof, please.

What is the language did Jesus spoke? English or Greek or Hebrew or ...?
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Post time 14-4-2004 01:34 PM | Show all posts
John 8:58.
Do you have a copy of the Bible?

Where did Allah said Mohamad was prophet?
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Post time 14-4-2004 02:02 PM | Show all posts
i have all the relevant verses but it is futile.. and i am not going to cast my pearls on sw___s. infact that pealer itself is from the bible.

evey book has an author/authors.

even the quran is written by a fair few. no hand is going to come down from heaven & scrible scribble scribble.

we are not here to give u proof - even if i give u all the proof - would u convert?

you are what you are,... your destiny is already laid out since the foundation of the world was laid. You have to travel on the path already laid out. this is called 'your destiny'. so stop wasting your time.
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Post time 14-4-2004 04:20 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by DARSITA at 14-4-2004 12:57 PM:

Who wrote the bible and when?



without bible, koran is nothing. pls get that into ur brain.

dut :18:18 is refer to Jesus not Muhamamd. Since, Muslims believed Jesus is prophet then Dut:18:18 is apply Jesus.

nothing about muhammad in Bibel and people of the book rejected Muhammad.
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Post time 15-4-2004 02:22 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 14-4-04 12:20 AM:



without bible, koran is nothing. pls get that into ur brain.

dut :18:18 is refer to Jesus not Muhamamd. Since, Muslims believed Jesus is prophet then Dut:18:18 is apply Jesus.

nothing a ...

Hello .... what? no comprande Ingl閟?

Kebenaran.8, I'll quote myself on what I said earlier in this thread ..'' Who wrote the bible and when?''

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Post time 15-4-2004 07:24 AM | Show all posts
aiyah.... simple question also cannot answer.  this info is everywhere lah....

Who Wrote the Bible - A Letter from God
揥ho wrote the Bible
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Post time 15-4-2004 07:29 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Mat Kampong at 2004-4-14 08:39 AM:
Bismi-lLahi-rRahmani-rRahiem
Assalaamu Alaikum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuhu.., I pray that this reaches you all in the best of health and iman.

MK is not asking you to stop believing  ...


i believe in Jesus Christ but not you.  so what you gonna do about it?  force your beliefs on me?  :lol well.... good luck trying.
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Terong Pipit This user has been deleted
Post time 15-4-2004 09:47 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Kazuo at 2004-4-14 23:29:


i believe in Jesus Christ but not you.  so what you gonna do about it?  force your beliefs on me?  :lol well.... good luck trying.


Hi Kazuo / Debmey,
We're not FORCING anybody including Kazuo and Debmey. We only provide the truth for your digestions... that all folks!

Jesus (peace be upon him) says in the Bible: (Matthew 5:17)
"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil."

Therefore, Jesus (peace be upon him) brought NO NEW RELIGION. Jesus believed in One God and preached God's unity. Jesus was a messenger of God and he did not claim to be anything else, especially son of God or God hmself .

Jesus has said, addressing The Lord: (John 17:3) "... that they might know Thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom Thou hast sent."

The above are not Qur'an saying BUT your BIBLE saying...


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Post time 15-4-2004 10:49 AM | Show all posts
Jesus (peace be upon him) says in the Bible: (Matthew 5:17)
"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil."

Therefore, Jesus (peace be upon him) brought NO NEW RELIGION. Jesus believed in One God and preached God's unity. Jesus was a messenger of God and he did not claim to be anything else, especially son of God or God hmself .

You are correct, he brought no new religion, unlike mohamad.



Jesus has said, addressing The Lord: (John 17:3) "... that they might know Thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom Thou hast sent."

The above are not Qur'an saying BUT your BIBLE saying...

Thank you, there is only one true God.
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Post time 15-4-2004 10:58 AM | Show all posts
how do we know that the writers of gospel were inspired by God? were they prophets?
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