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Post time 15-4-2004 11:14 AM | Show all posts
they were prophets.

How do we know mo was inspired by God or devil? Becos Mo said so?
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Post time 15-4-2004 02:20 PM | Show all posts

keh....

kalau nabi muhamad inspired by devil...alangkah bodohnya setan tu sebab dia suruh manusia membenci setan...diri dia sendiri...apara mamat nie.....
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Post time 15-4-2004 02:24 PM | Show all posts
they were prophets... i c ....

did jesus tell us that they were prophets ..?


quran condemns devil... surely it is not from devil
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Post time 15-4-2004 02:43 PM | Show all posts
So how did yu know Mo was a prophet? Maybe the Quran deceived yu.
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Post time 16-4-2004 07:10 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Terong Pipit at 2004-4-15 09:47 AM:


Hi Kazuo / Debmey,
We're not FORCING anybody including Kazuo and Debmey. We only provide the truth for your digestions... that all folks!

Jesus (peace be upon him) says in the Bible ...


oh no... the fellow did not get what i was saying.... never mind.... so u got to your 'truth' by twisting & turning?  brilliant.... very smart.... ok, i shall try my utmost best in digesting yr 'truth'.
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Post time 16-4-2004 08:44 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 2004-4-15 02:43 PM:
So how did yu know Mo was a prophet? Maybe the Quran deceived yu.


did jesus tell us that they were prophets ..?


i read quran and i am impressed... that is why i believe Muhammad SAW was a prophet...

Allahummasolli'alaMuhammad
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Post time 16-4-2004 08:55 AM | Show all posts
''without bible, koran is nothing''
''Similarities between the Quran and the Bible does not necessarily mean that the Quran has been copied from the Bible. In fact it gives evidence that both of came from the same source - the one universal God''

Who wrote the bible:- written by 40 divinely inspired writers.writers come from all walks of life (i.e., kings to fishermen) or kings, fishermen, carpenter, locksmith, or maybe by Jesus wanabe .. Right?

when: ??
OK, let's say it was written 100 years after he was removed from the earth. Are you sure that everything that was written was spoken by Jesus? And you want us to believe that it is the true word of God? And you want us to believe Jesus is God?

Lets suppose for an instance that Jesus (as) is actually God (Nauzbillah). What type of God is that who got crusified himself for your sake. What kind of secrifice is that? Now you can do what ever you can because God already has made you pure by crusification? Now you all will be forgiven regardless of your character?

More click this: - What part of Jesus died on the Cross? ... Tommy_Mylex
http://forum.cari.com.my/viewthread.php?tid=100921&fpage=1



Regards
Darsita
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Post time 16-4-2004 09:13 AM | Show all posts
How are yu so sure that Quran was written by God?
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Post time 16-4-2004 10:59 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 2004-4-16 09:13 AM:
How are yu so sure that Quran was written by God?


did jesus tell us that they were prophets ..?


well, man are provided with options.

as i said, i am impressed with quranto the extent that i believe that no man can produce such material... and people have their own perspectives.. it is up to them to choose... i choose to be a muslim
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Post time 16-4-2004 11:13 AM | Show all posts
as i said, i am impressed with quranto the extent that i believe that no man can produce such material... and people have their own perspectives.. it is up to them to choose... i choose to be a muslim


There is nothing new the the Quran. It just took materials that existed before it and bunch them together and these can be trcaed back to their source.
A good example would be Quran's description of embryology. The Quran copied the description and observation by Greek doctor Galen even though Galen was wrong in his observation due to the primitive nature of his work back almost 2000 years ago.

I personally do not think much of the Quran. Itv is illogical, disjointed and haphazardly compiled with no chronological sequence.
I spotted Apocryphal material in it the very first time I read it and I laughed.

peace
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Post time 16-4-2004 12:25 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 2004-4-16 11:13 AM:
There is nothing new the the Quran. It just took materials that existed before it and bunch them together and these can be trcaed back to their source.
A good example would be Quran's descript ...


did jesus tell us that they were prophets ..?

people see things differently...
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Post time 16-4-2004 12:27 PM | Show all posts
Who specifically are yu talking about?
I know that Jesus never said Mo was a prophet.
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Post time 16-4-2004 12:30 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 2004-4-16 12:27 PM:
Who specifically are yu talking about?
I know that Jesus never said Mo was a prophet.


did jesus tell us that the writers of gospels were prophets ..?

and i know Jesus never denies that Muhammad was a prophet
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Post time 16-4-2004 12:39 PM | Show all posts
Jesus did endorse the prophets swho wrote the Bible under God's inspiration.
No so for Mo.
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Post time 16-4-2004 02:25 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 2004-4-16 12:39 PM:
Jesus did endorse the prophets swho wrote the Bible under God's inspiration.
No so for Mo.


how did jesus endorse the writers of gospels are prophets ..?
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Post time 16-4-2004 02:53 PM | Show all posts
By quoting them.

What about mo? Do yu find Jesus endorsing Mo anyhwere?
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Post time 16-4-2004 04:42 PM | Show all posts
wat do u mean by quoting them... did he say 'he is a prophet?"

quran mentioned that 'Ahmad', the same meaning as 'Muhammad' was mentioned in bible...

it was discussed b4
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Post time 16-4-2004 07:46 PM | Show all posts
I have done a survey, Muhamad was never mentioned in the Bible.
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Post time 16-4-2004 11:57 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 15-4-2004 10:49:
Thank you, there is only one true God.


If there is only one true God.

Why there is TRINITY? Is it debmey or Dumbmey?stp::stp:
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Post time 16-4-2004 11:59 PM | Show all posts
Trinity, Three in unity as One.

cheers
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