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Muslims Just Got Some BAD News, Could Be DEVASTATING For Their Religion
Posted on August 31, 2015 by Robert Rich

Found within a late seventh century Quran in the library of the University of Birmingham, a discovery has been made that is shaking the very foundation of Islam. Although the ideology’s leaders are fighting vigorously to refute the claims, it seems that Muslims everywhere could soon be without a religion.

For years, many people all over the world have been arguing that the religion of Islam is nothing more than a farce meant to play out the sick fantasies of a man long dead. However, a recent find could actually go to prove that to be true.

Tucked away inside of an old Quran, fragments of script written on animal hides were found, which actually turned out to be parts of the Suras — or chapters 18 to 20 of the religion’s “holy book.” Unfortunately for them, scientists carbon dated the find in order to see how old it is, and Muslims just got some really bad news.

According to reports, the text is thought to be between 1,448 and 1,371 years old, meaning it was written sometime between 568AD and 645AD. With the dates given for Muhammad being 570AD and 632AD, this means they could actually out-date their “prophet,” meaning everything he spewed was nothing more than his personal and political agenda.

Historian Tom Holland says the find “destabilizes, to put it mildly, the idea that we can know anything with certainty about how the Quran emerged — and that in turn has implications for the history of Muhammad and the Companions.”

Keith Small, from the University of Oxford’s Bodleian Library, explains that the find could be utterly devastating to Islam. “This gives more ground to what have been peripheral views of the Quran’s genesis, like that Muhammad and his early followers used a text that was already in existence and shaped it to fit their own political and theological agenda, rather than Muhammad receiving a revelation from heaven,” he said.




Of course, Muslim scholars are fighting tooth and nail to defend everything they, like so many before them, have been blindly following for years.

“The tests carried out on the parchment of the Birmingham folios yield the strong probability that the animal from which it was taken was alive during the lifetime of the Prophet Muhammad or shortly afterwards,” explains Professor Nadir Dinshaw, who studies interreligious relations at the University of Birmingham. “These portions must have been in a form that is very close to the form of the Quran read today, supporting the view that the text has undergone little or no alteration and that it can be dated to a point very close to the time it was believed to be revealed.”

It just goes to show the lengths people will go to in order to defend their beliefs. Despite acknowledging the reality in all this, Muslims simply write it off as an insult rather than act like an intellectual human being and analyze the find to see what it means about the religion they’ve spent their life believing.



For me, most of what stems from the religion of Islam has only prove that its main message is a politically tyrant one. Wanting world domination and the death of those that refuse to believe, it’s no wonder it came about from the mind of a madman, rapist, and killer.

If Muslims want to ignore potential facts in order to stay blissfully ignorant, more power to them, but I think this is a huge find that puts a major ding in the credibility of the religion – not that they’ll say so. Then again, it’s not my place to pass final judgment.

That day will eventually come, and they will not like the repercussions one bit.

http://madworldnews.com/muslims-bad-news-religion/
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Post time 21-7-2016 06:04 AM | Show all posts
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@Hujatul_Jihad

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Post time 21-7-2016 08:26 PM | Show all posts
Edited by sam1528 at 21-7-2016 08:28 PM

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A parchment is animal skin usually from a calf, sheep, or goat. In the early days of Islam, before the invention of paper, parts of the Qur’an were written on palm folios, parchment as well as animal bones. Professor Thomas states that “the animal from which it was taken was alive during the lifetime of the Prophet Muhammad or shortly afterwards.”
Although 95.4% accuracy of the radio carbon dating may be considered to be a very high probability of the parchment’s early dating, carbon dating is an imprecise science and different laboratories produce different results as noted by Professor Gabriel Reynolds in the Times Literary Supplement.


Doubts have also been cast by Director of Research at the King Faisal Centre for Research and Islamic Studies in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, Saud al-Sarhan, arguing against an early dating of the Qur’an on the grounds of the manuscript contains dots and separated chapters, although it could be argued that these may be later additions. Dotting of Qur’anic manuscripts may also have been much earlier than generally assumed as argued by A Jones in The Dotting Of A Script And The Dating Of An Era: The Strange Neglect Of PERF 558, A. Jones, Islamic Culture, 1998, Volume LXXII, No. 4, pp. 95-103.

Both Reynolds and al-Sarhan point out that dating of a parchment is not the same as dating the text itself, as a piece of writing on a parchment may be erased and another text may be over-written, as is the case with the Sana’a manuscript. The dating of the ink may be a better indicator, although even this may have similar issues as the parchment dating in addition to issues of contamination from the parchment.

Poof! Your bubble is busted

Satu kebangaan adalah Mushaf Quran tak bertukar dari zaman Nabi Muhammad(saw) hingga hari ini

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Post time 21-7-2016 08:32 PM | Show all posts
Edited by mbhcsf at 21-7-2016 08:33 PM

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Post time 21-7-2016 08:36 PM | Show all posts
Edited by mbhcsf at 21-7-2016 08:46 PM
The tests carried out on the parchment of the Birmingham folios yield the strong probability that the animal from which it was taken was alive during the lifetime of the Prophet Muhammad or shortly afterwards,” explains Professor Nadir Dinshaw, who studies interreligious relations at the University of Birmingham. “These portions must have been in a form that is very close to the form of the Quran read today, supporting the view that the text has undergone little or no alteration and that it can be dated to a point very close to the time it was believed to be revealed.”



okay article  tu cakap the test being carried out on the parchment - the medium of which the text is written - so BUKAn the text itself sebab kalau baca bebetul ada perenggan lain explained abouttheir estimates on the text :

the text tu depa kata lain pulak


According to reports, the text is thought to be between 1,448 and 1,371 years old, meaning it was written sometime between 568AD and 645AD. With the dates given for Muhammad being 570AD and 632AD, this means they could actually out-date their “prophet,” meaning everything he spewed was nothing more than his personal and political agenda.

1) which reports?2) mana konsistensi ni


nak cakap pasal parchment  and other scripts lain dalamnya ke
atau
nak cakap pasal only 2 surah tertulis kat atasnya ka?

dan kemudian



Tucked away inside of an old Quran, fragments of script written on animal hides were found, which actually turned out to be parts of the Suras — or chapters 18 to 20 of the religion’s “holy book.” Unfortunately for them, scientists carbon dated the find in order to see how old it is, and Muslims just got some really bad news.








tapi sumber sam lebih baik sebab makes sense , logical



Doubts have also been cast by Director of Research at the King Faisal Centre for Research and Islamic Studies in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, Saud al-Sarhan, arguing against an early dating of the Qur’an on the grounds of the manuscript contains dots and separated chapters, although it could be argued that these may be later additions. Dotting of Qur’anic manuscripts may also have been much earlier than generally assumed as argued by A Jones in The Dotting Of A Script And The Dating Of An Era: The Strange Neglect Of PERF 558, A. Jones, Islamic Culture, 1998, Volume LXXII, No. 4, pp. 95-103.

Both Reynolds and al-Sarhan point out that dating of a parchment is not the same as dating the text itself, as a piece of writing on a parchment may be erased and another text may be over-written, as is the case with the Sana’a manuscript. The dating of the ink may be a better indicator, although even this may have similar issues as the parchment dating in addition to issues of contamination from the parchment.





ni kalau nak lekeh islam , please lah agak agaklah baca , kaji dulu





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Post time 21-7-2016 08:43 PM | Show all posts
meaning it was written sometime between 568AD and 645AD. With the dates given for Muhammad being 570AD and 632AD,


bukan hanya kau dah buktikan Al-Quran tidak berubah.  kau dah buktikan yang tahun tu pun dah betul.  The range given....!!!!  tak payah la aku komen.  

orang nogori kato....  kalo nembak porestorego yang bosar, pakai senapang patah peluru penabur pun boleh kono aih....
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Post time 21-7-2016 08:46 PM | Show all posts
ibnur replied at 21-7-2016 08:43 PM
bukan hanya kau dah buktikan Al-Quran tidak berubah.  kau dah buktikan yang tahun tu pun dah bet ...

tu lah

hahaahhaah

range  pun dia bagi

hahahah



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Post time 21-7-2016 08:50 PM | Show all posts
Edited by mbhcsf at 21-7-2016 08:51 PM

okay bagi pengunjung board agama

tentunya depa dah familiar sumber thread ini


menelusuri tanggapan penyeleweng islam - yg menceritakan bagaiman al quran diselweng dan sirah orientalis - article yg hujaul tu tempek tu  sebenarnya lebih senang difahami kalau kita tahu agenda orientalis , sirah mereka dan pola pendekatan mereka .
kita akan memahami pasai apa depa ni dok kaji menuscripts  terutamanya yg manuscripts arab  etc etc  so u akan dapat the whole picture and you can understand better

thread ni  saya copy and paste sinopsis

assalamualaikum,

Thread ini memetik  penulisan akademik  dalam bentuk kompilasi essay  ( seperti yang dinyatakan dalam  ruangan kata pengantar oleh penulis ) berbahasa Arab yang bertajuk : Maza'im al - Mustashriqin hawl al - Quran al Karim  yang dibentangkan si satu seminar  on Quranic Studies and Sciences yg diadakan di Madinah  dan dianjurkan oleh Raja Fahd Qur'an printing Complex - dari 30 -09  hingga 30 - 10 - 2000.  Dan telah dibukukan dalam naskhah yg berjudul  The Quran and The Orientalists -  a Brief  survey of their assumptions ( with an appendix on the orientalists' Translation of the Qur'an)  tulisan Dr Muhammad Mohar Ali - beliau dinyatakan sebagai bekas Professor of the History of Islam , University Madinah munawarra ad Imam Muhammad Islamic University , Riyadh, Saudi.

http://mforum.cari.com.my/forum. ... d&tid=940157&extra=


get this book and have a read. kat regent kalau ada itu rezeki youlah ...

ini complitaion essays akademik

good source sebab rujukan dan kupasan scholar




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