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Edited by Lobai_Atheist at 30-8-2016 12:09 PM
sam1528 replied at 30-8-2016 08:28 AM
Ha ha , tu lah ko ni bangang

Jarak antara Nabi Ibrahim(as) & Nabi Muhammad(saw) ~ 3000thn

nabi muhammad yg claim nabi ibrahim sbg islam....... macam mana nabi ibrahim ucap syahadah?  


bahkan org hindu kata islam ciplak tuhan brahmin menjadi nabi ibrahim  
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Lobai_Atheist replied at 30-8-2016 04:30 PM
nabi muhammad yg clai nabi ibrahim sbg islam....... macam mana nabi ibrahim ucap syahadah?  :laugh ...

Ha ha , ko kantoi lagi

BC , AD , CE pon ko tak tau. Ada hati pulak tu nak cakap pasal tahun

Skg macamana ko ni? Kaabah zaman Nabi Ibrahim(as) adalah ~ 2300 sebelum Nabi Isa(as). Artikel yg ko klaim nyatakan 1700 BC aje. Mana dtg dulu?

LOL , ko tak tau makna 'muslim' & 'Islam' ke .... soalan ko bodoh sgt

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sam1528 replied at 30-8-2016 08:39 AM
Ha ha , ko kantoi lagi

BC , AD , CE pon ko tak tau. Ada hati pulak tu nak cakap pasal tahun

ko nie sememangnya bebal........ dah hindu kata korang claim hak mereka....... bukannya aku  
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Lobai_Atheist replied at 30-8-2016 08:11 PM
ko nie sememangnya bebal........ dah hindu kata korang claim hak mereka....... bukannya aku  {:1_5 ...

Ha ha , ko dah kena tampar dah mulalah nak lari

Yg ko gatal guna argumen hindu supremacist tu buat apa? Kalo ko dah pakai ko kena terima kalo org lain kenakan ko

Padan muka. Geng ko .... si kemaruk tu dah kena

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Edited by FOTHER-MUCKER at 30-8-2016 09:37 PM
Lobai_Atheist replied at 30-8-2016 12:11 PM
ko nie sememangnya bebal........ dah hindu kata korang claim hak mereka....... bukannya aku  {:1_5 ...



Acong...... @Lobai_Atheist



Hinduism in Ancient Arabia

18May 15

Written byPublished inSanatan Dharm

Hinduism is the most ancient code of ethics that's been followed in the world, the most ancient Dharma. Hinduism was not only limited to the Indian subcontinent. As a matter of fact, Hinduism has its firm footprints as far away as Europe and Africa.




From time to time various Hindu artefacts are discovered in various parts of the world. Hinduism was there prior to spread of Islam or Christianity and was the way of life in majority of the world. The pre-Islamic Hindu history of the non-Muslim West Asia appears to have begun at least 9,000 years ago and it continued for millennia, at last seeing extermination of its followers after Mohammad started spreading Islam, and with the destruction of the Hindu shrine of Kaaba.

Hinduism and vedic culture in Arabia
Sanskrit name of Arabia:
Prior to the advent of Muhammad, Arabia was centre of the vedic civilization. The word “Arabistan” is derived from a Sanskrit word “Arvasthan”, which means the land of horses. These people followed Hindu smritis and were called smritics. The people who lived in this land were thus called Semitic. Arabs (before Islam) followed the ancient Vedic Smritis such as Manu-Smriti as their revered religious guides and thus they were identified as Smritic which has been corrupted to the pronunciation - Semitic.

Language and literature of the area:
The language of the land was Sanskrit and it later gave way to Arabic. Many Arabic words have Sanskrit origin. All the four Vedas find mention in Arabic literature. Thousands of words that were derived from Sanskrit still survive in Arabic. Some poems have been written which mention Hindu rule in the area and also mention famous kings like Vikramaditya. In Sair-Ul-Okul there is a poem written by Jirrham Bintoi who praises India's great King Vikramaditya. A noted scholar of history, W.H. Siddiqui notes:
"The Arab civilization grew up intensively as well as extensively on the riches of Indian trade and commerce. Nomadic Arab tribes became partially settled communities and some of them lived within walled towns practised agriculture and commerce, wrote on wood and stone, feared the gods and honored the kings."

Idols of Hindu gods:
There were idols of many Hindu gods found in the area. Many of these idols were found in Kaaba which were demolished by Muhammad and his follow
The Kaaba was a Hindu shrine that was captured by Muslims. The black stone which is a symbol of Lord Shiva is still found in Kaaba. According to encyclopedia Islamia Muhammad’s grand father and uncles were priests at Kaaba temple which had 360 idols. All other Vedic Idols could be found buried in the precincts or trampled underfoot in labyrinthine subterranean corridors if archaeological excavations are undertaken. In fact the names of the holiest of Muslim cities Mecca and Medina come from the Sanskrit words Makha-Medini which means the land of Fire-Worship. A poem written by Labi-Bin-E- Akhtab-Bin-E-Turfa, who lived in Arabia around 1850 B.C., mentions all four Vedas. This verse can be found in Sair- Ul-Okul which is an anthology of ancient Arabic poetry. It was compiled in 1742 AD under order of the Turkish Sultan Salim.
Condition of women
Women in vedic Arabia enjoyed a lot of freedom. Goddess Durga was worshipped by the people. Women were allowed to get education. They were financially independent and were free to choose their husbands. They were entrepreneurs, artisans, poets and even warriors.

Destruction of vedic deities by Muhammad:
The Kaaba had 360 vedic deities’ idols and was dedicated to worship sun god. At the centre of Kaaba there is octagonal pedestal of Bramha. Now it is called Maqam –e Ibrahim. Muhammad destroyed all 360 idols and looted the temple. Vedic ritual was to face the east while praying but Muhammad ordered to face west while praying. He considered idol worship against his religion so he made it a sin. Pagan Hindu prayers were done in lyrical way with music but Muhammad was so keen on curbing non-Islamic beleifs that he declared music haraam or a sin. Traditional accounts mention that one of the deities among the 360 destroyed, when the shrine was stormed, was that of Saturn, another was of the moon and yet another was one called Allah. In India the practice of Navagraha puja that is worship of the nine planets is still in vogue. Two of these nine are the Saturn and the moon. Right at the centre of the Kaaba is the octagonal pedestal of Bramha the creator.
Maqam-E-Ibrahim or more appropriately the pedestal of Brahma.

Lord Vishnu's footprints:
The ancient Vedic scripture Harihareswar Mahatmya mentions that Lord Vishnu's footprints are consecrated in Mecca. Worshipping such carved, holy foot impressions is a holy Vedic custom.

Reference to King Vikramaditya:
There is a reference to a king Vikramaditya in an inscription found in Kaaba in Mecca proving beyond doubt that the Arabian Peninsula formed a part of his Indian Empire. King Vikrama’s preachers had succeeded in spreading the Vedic way of life in Arabia. It could be that Vikramaditya himself had this peninsula named Arvasthan if he was the first Indian monarch to capture it and bring it under his sway.

Seven circumambulations:
The practice of taking seven steps- known as Saptapadi in Sanskrit- is associated with Hindu marriage ceremony and fire worship. The culminating rite in a Hindu marriage enjoins upon the bride and groom to go round the sacred fire four times. Since "Makha" means fire, the seven circumambulations also prove that Mecca was the seat of Indian fire-worship in the West Asia.
Even now Muslims do the seven circumambulations. Muslim pilgrims visiting the Kaaba shrine go around it seven times. In no other mosque does this perambulation prevail. Hindus invariably perambulate around their shrines. This is yet another proof that the Kaaba shrine is a pre-Islamic Shiva temple where the Hindu practice of perambulation is still meticulously observed. The only difference is that Muslims move anti-clockwise.

Sanskrit synonyms
In Sanskrit language Allah, Akka and Amba are synonyms. They signify the supreme goddess or mother. The term ‘ALLAH’ forms part of Sanskrit chants invoking goddess Durga.

Unani medicine:
The identity of Unani and Ayurvedic systems shows that Unani is just the Arabic term for the Ayurvedic system of healing taught to them and administered in Arabia when Arabia formed part of the Indian empire. Unani medicine is more or less derived from the Ayurveda.

Recital of the Namaz five times:
Islam jumbled up the Sanskrit words Nama and Yaja which meant "bowing and worshipping" respectively into a combination word Namaz. He used that word to describe his prescribed method of prayer. Recital of the Namaz five times a day owes its origin to the Vedic injunction of Panchmahayagna (five daily worship- Panch-Maha-Yagna) which is part of the daily Vedic ritual prescribed for all Hindus. Because the Vedic custom was to pray facing the East, in its aversion for all things Pagan/Hindu, islam directed its followers to pray facing only the west when in Mecca.

Sanskrit inscriptions:
Encyclopedias tell us that there are inscriptions on the side of the Kaaba walls. At least some of these inscriptions are in Sanskrit, and some of them are stanzas from the Bhagavad Gita. Many of these inscriptions were destroyed by followers of Muhammad. But relics of some exist even to this day.

Meaning of ‘Eed-ul-Fitr’:
In India, Hindus commemorate their ancestors during the Pitr-Paksha that is the fortnight reserved for their remembrance. The very same is the significance of ‘Eed-ul-Fitr’ (worship of forefathers). There is strong evidence that this festival was encouraged from the Hindu practice of Pitr pooja.

Mosque over buried Hindus:
Islam showed utter contempt for the souls of dead people. Muhammad had a mosque constructed on a place having dead bodies of Hindus. Through the ages, Muhammad's followers would preserve this tradition of desecration of non-muslim graves and emulate his example devoutly by consistently building mosques on graveyards on top of destroyed places of worship. This act of desecration was followed by innumerable raiding expeditions and the successive history of loot, plunder, rape and destruction that Islam and its founders went on to create in Medinah.

Prophet of Islam attacked Kaaba
Prophet Muhammad turned to the idols housed in and around the temple. Each one of the sacred idol was dragged down and stripped of the rich jewels and gems that ornamented them. Then he set all broken idols on fire. There was the idol of Lord Hanuman at the top of the temple. This image of Bahubali was dragged down from the roof, and the saffron flag that it held was trampled into the dirt by the Holy Prophet. The icon itself was buried in the sand and used as a doorstep. The only idol that Muhammad spared was the black stone known today as "Sangey Aswad", which was a Shivlinga. The only reason this was spared is that, it was the family deity of Muhammad's clan. Muhammad's own uncle, Umar-Bin-E-Hassham was a staunch Hindu and fervent devotee of Lord Shiva. He was a renowned poet and wrote many verses in praise of Lord Shiva. His verses are included in Sair-Ul-Okul.

The Encyclopedia Islamia admits : "Muhammed's grandfather and uncles were hereditary priests of the Kaaba temple which housed 360 idols!"
The Shiv Ling at the Kaaba. It was broken in seven
places and now is held together by a silver band.

The Temple of Dhu-l-Khalasa:
This temple was dedicated to Lord Shiva, Dhu-L-Khalasa stood for "The One of Kailash". It was situated in Yemen. The Prophet's helper Jarir set out with a force of 150 cavalrymen from the Ahmas Tribe. In Jarir's words: "We dismantled it and burnt it to the ground and killed whoever was present there." Plenty of valuables were robbed. The beautiful statue of Dhu-L-Khalasa (Shiva), a white piece of marble in which a crown was carved, was used as the stepping stone under the mosque at Tabala.

The Temples of Fils & Ruda in Tai:
Ali Bint Abi Talib went to the Temple of Fils to destroy it by order of Muhammad. He took 200 horsemen with him. Ali tortured and murdered many people present there. This Temple contained images of the Mother Goddess. Ali obtained two swords from the temple, one named Rasub and another called Makhzam, both swords were extremely valuable. The Temple of Ruda was looted and destroyed. It was dedicated to Lord Rudra (Shiva) and contained a beautiful jet black Shivling. The Shivling was smashed into its base and the temple razed.

According to historian Sitaram Goel:
"The conquest of Mecca by Muhammad was the most significant event in the history of Islam. The success of the enterprise settled the character of Islam for all time to come. The principal lessons are two: The first is that Muslims should continue resorting to violence on any and every pretext till they triumph; setbacks are temporary. The second lesson is that Islam should refuse to coexist or compromise with every other religion and culture, and use the first favourable opportunity to wipe out the others completely so that it alone may prevail."

Practice of shaving the head:
As the pilgrims now proceed towards Mecca for Hajj they are told to shave head and beard and to don a special sacred attire. This consists of two seamless sheets of white cloth.
One is to be worn round the waist and the other over the shoulders. Both these rites are remnants of the old Vedic practice of entering Hindu shrines, clean shaven and with holy seamless spotless white sheets.
With Islam came the flood of destruction, murder, plunder and crime that destroyed the great Vedic heritage of Arabs. Archaeological research has resulted in discovery of historic sites in other Islamic countries like Afghanistan that prove its close religious-cultural affinity with Hindu India. References to Afghanistan, its rivers and towns are found in Rig Veda. Even Syria is said to have a Hindu past, so much so that it derived its name from Surya or Sun. So, we can conclude that the whole west Asia and Arabia had strong links to the Hindu culture which were snubbed by the later Muslim rulers. The destruction of Hindu/Pagan and other non-islamic relics of the past continues to this day.










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Who is Brahma?

Brahma is the first god in the Hindu triumvirate, or trimurti. The triumvirate consists of three gods who are responsible for the creation, upkeep and destruction of the world. The other two gods are Vishnu and Shiva.

Vishnu is the preserver of the universe, while Shiva's role is to destroy it in order to re-create.

Brahma's job was creation of the world and all creatures. His name should not be confused with Brahman, who is the supreme God force present within all things.

Brahma is the least worshipped god in Hinduism today. There are only two temples in the whole of India devoted to him, compared with the many thousands devoted to the other two.

What does Brahma look like?

Painted engraving of Brahma showing his four heads Brahma, 1820 British engraving ©
Brahma has four heads and it is believed that from these heads came the four Vedas (the most ancient religious texts for Hindus). Some also believe that the caste system, or four varnas, came from different part of Brahma's body.

He has four arms and is usually depicted with a beard.

Brahma's consort is Saraswati, goddess of knowledge.

Why is Brahma not worshipped so much?

There are a number of stories in the Hindu mythology which point to why he is rarely worshipped. These are two of them.

The first view is that Brahma created a woman in order to aid him with his job of creation. She was called Shatarupa.

She was so beautiful that Brahma became infatuated with her, and gazed at her wherever she went. This caused her extreme embarrassment and Shatarupa tried to turn from his gaze.

But in every direction she moved, Brahma sprouted a head until he had developed four. Finally, Shatarupa grew so frustrated that she jumped to try to avoid his gaze. Brahma, in his obsession, sprouted a fifth head on top of all.

It is also said in some sources that Shatarupa kept changing her form. She became every creature on earth to avoid Brahma. He however, changed his form to the male version of whatever she was and thus every animal community in the world was created.

Lord Shiva admonished Brahma for demonstrating behaviour of an incestuous nature and chopped off his fifth head for 'unholy' behaviour. Since Brahma had distracted his mind from the soul and towards the cravings of the flesh, Shiva's curse was that people should not worship Brahma.

As a form of repentance, it is said that Brahma has been continually reciting the four Vedas since this time, one from each of his four heads.

A second view of why Brahma is not worshipped, and a more sympathetic one, is that Brahma's role as the creator is over. It is left to Vishnu to preserve the world and Shiva to continue its path of cosmic reincarnation.

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Post time 31-8-2016 03:42 AM | Show all posts
Edited by FOTHER-MUCKER at 30-8-2016 11:29 PM

Siapakah brahma? Zakir Naik youtube.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y6pyRHXiOWs

Siapa Brahma? Brahma adalah seorang  khalid bin sinan. Gambar statue kat atas tu adalah brahma/ khalid



Sebab itu saya percaya kisah Hindu dan Islam ada kena mengena.
Sebenarnya agama Islam juga ada kena mengena denga agama Buddha.


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astaga........ hindu kena fitnah  @sam1528   


sam, ko dah sediakan kneeguard utk merangkak2 kat padang mahsyar? aku rasa Watson ada jual buy 1 free 1  
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harap  @sam1528   tidak mati mengelupur  


kesiannya... sembah tuhan hindu  
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Lobai_Atheist replied at 31-8-2016 01:52 AM
astaga........ hindu kena fitnah  @sam1528   

Khaled or khalid tu sebenarnya seorang nabi.
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Edited by mbhcsf at 1-9-2016 02:49 AM
Lobai_Atheist replied at 30-8-2016 04:30 PM
nabi muhammad yg claim nabi ibrahim sbg islam....... macam mana nabi ibrahim ucap syahadah?  :laug ...

astaghfirullah


Acong, sebab tu i think u kena refer balik sumber islam dan tengok Nabi Ibrahim tu bawa agama  apa?

pernah dengan agama Hanif

dan ada ayat  ni al baqarah ( 2 ) , ayat 135

Mohsin Khan: And they say, "Be Jews or Christians, then you will be guided." Say (to them, O Muhammad Peace be upon him ), "Nay, (We follow) only the religion of Ibrahim (Abraham), Hanifa [Islamic Monotheism, i.e. to worship none but Allah (Alone)], and he was not of Al-Mushrikun (those who worshipped others along with Allah - see V.2:105)."








lagi satu ye, sebagai seorang islam atau yg memeluk islam
sila beradab bila bercakap tentang rasul atau nabi , kita tak mana boleh label seorang nabi rasul tu ' anak luar nikah'  tak baik.

Dalam Islam, Siti hajar ( hagar ) adalah isteri ye...so please respect adab. kalau ini pun tak tahu memang it reflects pada akhlak lah.






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tak baik tau ciplak tuhan hindu  
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Lobai_Atheist replied at 1-9-2016 02:52 AM
tak baik tau ciplak tuhan hindu

teruskan hujah tak berakal anda dan biarlah ini dijadikan bukti bahawa sekiranya kekebasan bersuara diberikan kepada yg kurang berakal atau waras - ini jadinya.  Jadi manusia seperti and ayg membuat posting sebegini - bukti yg patut dijadikan contoh oleh pembuat dasar , polisi dan NGO islam yg lain betapa teruknya kandungan posting dan mesej si bebas nilai.
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Edited by Lobai_Atheist at 31-8-2016 07:55 PM
mbhcsf replied at 31-8-2016 06:55 PM
teruskan hujah tak berakal anda dan biarlah ini dijadikan bukti bahawa sekiranya kekebasan bersuar ...
ko tu yg tak reti guna akal.....  

hujah aku adalah berdasarkan bukti sejarah  


tuhan kamu salah satu berhala yg disembah penganut hindu dlm kaabali  



"Allah" in Hinduism

"Allah" in Rigveda Book 2 Hymn I verse II
Even in the Rigveda which is the most sacred scripture of the Hindus, one of the attributes given to God Almighty in Book no 2 Hymn no I verse II, is ‘Ila’ which if pronounced properly is the same as Allah.

Allo Upanishad:

Amongst the various Upanishads one of the Upanishad is named as ‘Allo’ Upanishad in which God is referred to as "Allah" several times.

http://www.islam101.com/tauheed/Aior.htm


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The word Kaaba came from the Tamil Language which originated around 1700BC.

In Tamil Nadu Kabaalishwaran temple is Lord Shiva’s temple and Kabaali refers to Lord Shiva.


ada masalah kat sini sebab dia  hanya cakap the word datang dari tamil nadu...

yg peliknya kaabah di mekah pada ketika sejarah awal pembinaannya suku jurhum suku arab dah wujud   - so amat pelik perkataaan kaabah kena derived from tamil , sepatutnya lebih logik diterbitkan dari  pada lisan penduduk

dalam bahasa  arab  kaabah = kaab = 4  , ini bertepatan dengan ciri cirinya yg ada 4 penjuru


se mana lebih logik dan lebih mendalam sejarah perkataan tu ?????






1. take note of the time 1 700 BC / SM - dakwaan perkataan kaaba tu wujud dari Tamil Nadu - jauhnya perkataan tu nak sampai ....penduduk mekah dah wijud lah sebelum tu pun

2. Nabi ibrahim wujud sekitar 2295 SM / BC ~ 2 300 SM

ketika tu take note  benda ni hajar , ismail , suku jurhum , pembinaah kaabah

i pelik tak ada sebut pun suku suku arab  yg wujud sebelum itu ....






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mbhcsf replied at 1-9-2016 03:26 PM
ada masalah kat sini sebab dia  hanya cakap the word datang dari tamil nadu...

yg peliknya ka ...

checkmate laa...... sebesar alam ini, tuhan kau hnya milih middle east utk munculkan diri  


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pe yg tak sama?  

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Edited by FOTHER-MUCKER at 1-9-2016 11:04 PM
mbhcsf replied at 1-9-2016 03:26 PM
ada masalah kat sini sebab dia  hanya cakap the word datang dari tamil nadu...

yg peliknya ka ...

Apa yang you rasa tak betulnya? Ada yang kata dia nabi dan ada yang kata dia bukan nabi, tapi ada saya kisah dia nabi ataupun tidak?

Kisah nabi Khalid(Brahma) bin sinan pun Dari 1st ke 7th century ce iatu sebelum nabi Muhammad islamkan bangsa Arab?. Sebelum Arab di islamkan mereka adalah pagan.
second question of Fatwa no. 21394
Q 2: Who was Khalid ibn Sinan?  Some people say that he was a prophet, while others say that he was a righteous man. I hope that you will tell me about his origins, his life, and who he was.
A: Khalid ibn Sinan, as mentioned by Al-Hafiz Ibn Hajar in "Al-Isabah", lived before the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) received his mission, but he did not witness it, although his daughter did go to see the Prophet (peace be upon him).


Religion in pre-Islamic Arabia
Religion in pre-Islamic Arabia was a mix of polytheism, Christianity, Judaism, and Iranian religions. Arab polytheism, the dominant form of religion in pre-Islamic Arabia, was based on veneration of deities and other rituals. Gods and goddesses, including Hubal and the goddesses al-Lāt, Al-‘Uzzá and Manāt, were worshipped at local shrines, such as the Kaaba in Mecca. Different theories have been proposed regarding the role of Allah in Meccan religion.[1][2][3][4][5] Many of the physical descriptions of the pre-Islamic gods are traced to idols, especially near the Kaaba, which is said to have contained up to 360 of them.[6]
Other religions were represented to varying, lesser degrees. The influence of the adjacent Roman, Aksumite and Sasanian Empires resulted in Christian communities in the northwest, northeast and south of Arabia. Christianity made a lesser impact, but secured some conversions, in the remainder of the peninsula. With the exception of Nestorianism in the northeast and the Persian Gulf, the dominant form of Christianity was Miaphysitism. The peninsula had been subject to Jewish migration since Roman times, which had resulted in a diaspora community supplemented by local converts. Additionally, the influence of the Sasanian Empire resulted in Iranian religions being present in the peninsula. Zoroastrianism existed in the east and south, while there is evidence of Manichaeism or possibly Mazdakism being practised in Mecca.

  • Proto-Iranic religion:[1] The various beliefs and practices from which the later indigenous religion of the Iranian peoples evolved. This religion also influenced the development of the Indian religions.
  • Zoroastrianism: The present-day umbrella term for the indigenous native beliefs and practices of the Iranian peoples. While present-day Zoroastrianism is monolithic, a continuation of the elite form of Sassanid times, in antiquity it had several variants or denominations, differing slightly by location, ethnic affiliation and historical period. It once had large population and high diversity.


This article is about the religions that originated in the Indian subcontinent. For religious demographics of the Republic of India, see Religion in India.
Indian religions, also termed as Dharmic faiths or religions, are the religions that originated in the Indian subcontinent; namely Hinduism, Jainism, Buddhism and Sikhism.[web 1][note 1] These religions are also classified as Eastern religions. Although Indian religions are connected through the history of India, they constitute a wide range of religious communities, and are not confined to the Indian subcontinent.[web 1]
Evidence attesting to prehistoric religion in the Indian subcontinent derives from scattered Mesolithic rock paintings. The Harappan people of the Indus Valley Civilisation, which lasted from 3300 to 1300 BCE (mature period, 2600–1900 BCE), had an early urbanised culture which predates the Vedic religion.[1]
The documented history of Indian religions begins with the historical Vedic religion, the religious practices of the early Indo-Iranians, which were collected and later redacted into the Vedas. The period of the composition, redaction and commentary of these texts is known as the Vedic period, which lasted from roughly 1750 to 500 BCE.[2]






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FOTHER-MUCKER replied at 2-9-2016 06:52 AM
Apa yang you rasa tak betulnya? Ada yang kata dia nabi dan ada yang kata dia bukan nabi, tapi ada  ...

baca betul betul posting saya.

saya tahu bahawa awak tidak mempelajari  sejarah islam dan sirah nabawiyyah silibus malaysia , jadi daripada posting anda saya dapat mengenalpasti kat mana  yg anda tak tahu lagi di mana  pelajar malaysia yg islam dan practising muslim yg  tahu agama dan berfikrah Islam

akan tahu  yg benda yg anda postkan berkenaan struktur sosial dan kepercayaan masyarakat arab sebeleum islam - yg kami dah pelajari pun dan dinamakan zaman Arab Jahiliyyah dan sedia maklum , tahu dan dah tahu lama dah pun - bukan satu benda yg baru , tapi saya hairan puak puak anda melayani bhn internet ini seolah olah eureka.

silibus kurikulum lama sekolah menengah dalam pengetahuan islam ( kbsm dilabel sebagai pendidikan islam  ) dah menceritakan dengan lanjut nama nama patung berhala yg dipuja di sekeliling  kaabah kalau tak salah ada 10 ke 12 dan ada nama. so pada i ini bukan benda baru.

dan dengan mengetahui apa itu zaman arab jahiliyyah dan ciri ciri arab jahiliyyah , bila zaman jahiliyyah tu berlaku - sekitar tahun selepas keruntuhan empangan maarib then anda akan mengetahui  timeline nya.


so, berkenaan posting and atentang posting saya  yg mempertikaikan perkataan dan asal perkataan kaabah tu - sebab tak logik tak dinamakan suku suku arab seperti suku jurhum etc etc yg wujud dan silih  berganti dengan suku suku arab awal yg mendiami  tempatyg bernama Mekah.

dan perkataan kaabah tu  lebih logik diterbitkan daripada sumber panggilan ( lisan ) penduduk setetmepat yg berbangsa arab


pasal nabi - oh  okay untuk makluman saudara dalam islam kami difahamkan ada 124 000 org nabi , 313 orang rasul dan 25 orang daripadanya wajib dipercayai dan5 daripadanya ulul azmi

dan kami tak hairan pun ada menuscript atatu catatan  berkenaan org yg alim dan mempunyai perwatakan seperti nabi - ada satu sumber menyatakan  Confucious may be one of them sebab ciri ajaran yg memetngkan sifat moral menjaga hubungan sesama manusia etc tapi ini perlukan pembuktian.

kami juga dimaklumkan tentang ciri dan makna seorag nabi
apa makna rasul

so itu bila dipegang insya Allah senang je nak memahami islam


lagi satu i pun tak faham kenapa anda bawa isu nabi brahma etc - mute point pada i .


tapi

perhatikan ini


nabi ibrahim wujud

2395 ~ 2 300 sebelum masehi

dakwaan  kononnya perkataan kaab dari tamil nadu ~ 1 700 SM


hehehe saya tersenyum sebab saya  tahu pembinaan kaabah dan penetapan kaabah tu bermula dari adam - sumber jakim ada penulisan tentang kaabah ni  , kemudian Nabi Ibrahim AS dan nabi Ismail AS ditugaskan membina kaabah dan lokasi itu diarahkan Allah SWT , dan mereka membina kaabah.

ketika nabi ismail AS wujud, dah ada pun penemaptan kabilah arab awal kat situ.


so benda yg i cerita ni  adalah jawapan bagi yg berfikir.

1 700 BC  versus  2300 versus BC


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