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 Author| Post time 16-2-2017 08:35 PM | Show all posts
Simunggu replied at 16-2-2017 06:31 AM
babi, arak dan rasuah ikut mazhab kami..shafie adalah haram...kamu?

ikut mazhab shafie, daging dubuk tak haram   

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fazamania replied at 16-2-2017 12:48 AM
Boleh gak...jom kita ke shurga dulu aku ajak ko ni.mm eh wait tapi ko x layak sbb ko ateist..  :lo ...

gila pe nak tunggu sampai ke syurga? dah ada bukti kaa syurga tu wujud?  
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lkick2113 replied at 16-2-2017 08:03 AM
siapa ajar ko????? kalau camtu ikut syafiee, anak luar nikah boleh dinikahi, dan bayar zakat fitra ...

cakap ikut mazhab shafie...... tapi apa tu mazhab shafie pun tak tau.... tunggang langgang  
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chazey replied at 16-2-2017 08:49 AM
Bukan ke menurut syafie, bulu kucing najis? But ummah bukan peduli. Selamba pelihara najis bergera ...

sejadah yg ada bulu kucing tu najis.......... kekeke   

awek aku dah selalu kena bahan dek aku  
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chazey replied at 16-2-2017 08:51 AM
There you go.  Untuk kelainan jom pengikut mahzab syafie dalam negara hidang rendang dubok ma ...

kalau ikut mazhab maliki, daging anjing pun halal tau... byk umat yg keliru   
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pooh~key replied at 16-2-2017 08:53 AM
Apahal dah tua bangka kubur kata mari pun tak habis lagi belajar mazhab suci ni?  :

nanti tau laa dia merangkak2 kat padang mahsyar minta ampun kat imam shafie  
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abangbikerz replied at 16-2-2017 09:28 AM
Pelik aku mazhab2 ni. Adakah apabila imam hanafi cakap a, syafie cakap b maka allah meredhai kedua2n ...

depa dah dapat wahyu gamaknya   
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Post time 16-2-2017 09:01 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Godless replied at 16-2-2017 08:42 PM
sejadah yg ada bulu kucing tu najis.......... kekeke   

awek aku dah selalu kena bahan  ...

Ooooo masih dgn awek Melayu eh  
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Post time 16-2-2017 09:03 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
suka ati korg la nk ikut ke x.. dah baligh pk sendirilah yg baik atau buruk..
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Fieza-mira replied at 16-2-2017 06:22 PM
Di dalam Islam memang dibolehkan berselisih pendapat dalam perkara2 hukum selagi tak menyentuh soa ...

Syafie sentuh laki bini btl wuduk. Hanafi tak batal.

Persoalannya camne depa tau tuhan either terima 2 pendapat atau terima satu jer atau tolak dua2?
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Post time 16-2-2017 09:04 PM | Show all posts
Edited by mbhcsf at 16-2-2017 09:53 PM
chazey replied at 16-2-2017 04:49 PM
Bukan ke menurut syafie, bulu kucing najis? But ummah bukan peduli. Selamba pelihara najis bergera ...

oh itu amat simple dalam pandangan Islam.
bagi yg faham islam dari segala rukun dan hadis jibrail: islam , iman dan ihsan dan akhlak dengan Allah , benda yg akidah tu penting, mazhab itupenting dalam memudahkan tetapi akidah itu lebih penting dan mazhab tak ada kompromi dalam benda yg menyentuh akidah.

so benda ni amat simple - memang  bulu yg tretanggal dari badan binatang yg halal dipelihara dalam mazhab syafie itu dikira najis
dan ini tak jadi masalah malah ada hikmahnya sebab?

org boleh sentiasa alert dengan kebersihan dan bagi yg asthmatics i think , adalah baik untuk menjadikan ini satu amalan kebersihan.
so baguslah sentiasa memelihara kebersihan dan abu hurairah , kalau anda belum tahu tak tahu lagi adalah pencinta kucing sebab tu nama gelaran beliau abu hurairah  hurairah - bapa kucing.so berdampinglah dengan sumber yg sahih and cari guru yg boleh ajar anda tentang Islam.

mazhab sentuh perkara furuk atau cabangan dan kalau minda yg keliru? oh tak perlu pun, balik kepada asas atau usul. mazhab  ni kena faham bebetul cara talfiq ( keluar dan syarat syarat)nya dan kalau anda bebetul faham ada benda yg sentuh rukun sesuatu perlakuan ibadah, macam munakahat yg amat penting untuk suka suka  main pakai langgah je.
so, u know bukan sesuatu yg ikut suka hati.

sebab tui kena faham islam. sebab tu kena ikut mufti yg boleh bagi komprehensif view. bukan hanya bagi stand alone opinion je tanpa bagi konteks yg betul. amat bahaya kalau rasa dah faham sesuatu.

dan untuk pengetahuan you ulama ulung mazhab ni tak pernah kata kena ikut mazhab depa  kalau ada sesuatu usul atau perkara pokok yg lebih kuat nas atau buktinya  yg lebih kukuh menyatakan sesuatu hukum, maka tinggallah pendapat depa - ini imam syafii make it clear. so, i lebih suka syafie seba ia strict tang sesuatu untuk pelihara quality ibadah.

sebab tu kena fahama islam.setakat buku kucing je kena tahu  najis pangkat mana. senang bukan kalau kuasai teori? tak perlu confuse .

org  yg faham tak menggelupur pun.

yg penting akidah dan akhlak dengan Allah.
hargailah rezeki  hidayah sebab ia amat mahal. ketika sakaratul maut.





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sebu replied at 16-2-2017 01:01 PM
Ooooo masih dgn awek Melayu eh

haah......... nak ajak dia migrate...... pastu join sembah tuhan odin   
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abangbikerz replied at 16-2-2017 01:03 PM
Syafie sentuh laki bini btl wuduk. Hanafi tak batal.

Persoalannya camne depa tau tuhan either t ...

tak batal lak waktu berasak2 masa haji...... hukum tuhan berubah2 ikut lokasi?  

patut laa ummah sentiasa keliru  
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Post time 16-2-2017 09:20 PM | Show all posts
Edited by mbhcsf at 16-2-2017 09:24 PM
I have a very technical question concerning the consumption of alcohol in Islam, specifically the views of the Hanafi madhab.  It says in the Wikipedia article on Hanafi:
ini persoalan :


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanafi

“Abu Hanifa, taking a literal view (harfiyyah), held that "wine" (Khamr in Quranic/classical Arabic), i.e. the fermented juice of dates or grapes, was absolutely prohibited. Hence he thought it was permissible to drink small non-intoxicating amounts of other alcoholic beverages (e.g. made from honey or grains). Later Hanafi scholars tend to rule that all alcoholic beverages are prohibited regardless of source.”

Can anyone tell me who these later Hanafi scholars are?  Are their rulings on this subject available in English somewhere?  Are there any Hanafi scholars who still agree with Abu Hanifa on this point?

jawapan  yg komprehensif :



Q: I was wondering if alcohol in detergents and creams etc. is permissible to use.

A: In the name of Allah, Most Compassionate, Most Merciful,

In principle, it should be remembered that, alcohol extracted from grapes, dates and barley is decisively unlawful (haram), both its oral intake as well as application, for it is considered to be impure (najis). This type of alcohol is known as Khamr (wine), and it will be unlawful to even consume one drop of such alcohol according to all the classical scholars.

Allah Most High says:

“O you who believe! Alcohol (khamr), gambling, dedication of stones, and divination by arrows are an abomination (impure) of Shaytan’s handiwork. So abstain from such (abomination) that you may prosper.” (al-An’am, 90)

Sayyiduna Abu Hurayra (Allah be pleased with him) narrates that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “Khamr (wine) is from these two trees, dates and grapes.” (Sahih Muslim, no. 1985)

However, if the alcohol is extracted and derived from other than grapes, dates and barley, then there is a difference of opinion between the scholars with regards to its ruling. Imam Abu Hanifa & Imam Abu Yusuf (Allah have mercy on them both) from the Hanafi school are of the view that it will be permissible to consume such alcohol for medication purposes or to gain energy (and not for pleasure and enjoyment) as long as it does not intoxicate.

They base their view on the Hadith narrated by Abu Hurayra (Allah be pleased with him) stated above. Also, the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace is reported to have said: “Khamr (derived from grapes, dates and barley) is in itself unlawful (and impure), and also all the other beverages that reach the level of intoxication.” (See: al-Zayla’i, Nasb al-Raya, 4/306)

However, the other three schools of thought, i.e. Shafi’i, Maliki and Hanbali and also Imam Muhammad ibn al-Hasan al-Shaybani (Allah have mercy on him) from the Hanafi school are of the view that all types of beverages are prohibited whether less or more, and whether consumed to the level of intoxication or otherwise. They base their argument on the following two Hadiths:

Sayyiduna Ibn Umar (Allah be pleased with him) narrates that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “Every intoxicant is Khamr and every intoxicant is Unlawful (haram)…” (Sahih Muslim, Sunan Abu Dawud, No. 3671, Sunan Timidhi and others)

Sayyiduna Jabir ibn Abd Allah (Allah be pleased with him) narrates that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “Whatever intoxicates in large quantities, then a small quantity of it is also forbidden.” (Sunan Abu Dawud, no. 3673, Sunan al-Tirmidhi, Sunan al-Nasa’i and others)

Thus, according two these scholars, all forms of alcohol beverages will be considered unlawful (haram) and impure (najis). Once it is established that a given beverage intoxicates, it will be unlawful to consume even a small serving of that beverage.

The late Hanafi scholars also gave Fatwa on this position of the student of Imam Abu Hanifa, Imam Muhammad ibn al-Hasan due to widespread Fitna.

Imam al-Haskafi (Allah have mercy on him) states:

“Imam Muhammad considered the various beverages, such as those made from honey, fig, etc to be categorically unlawful (haram), whether it is less in quantity or more, and the Fatwa is given on his position.”

Imam Ibn Abidin (Allah have mercy on him) explains the above:

“Fatwa is given on the view of Imam Muhammad and this is also the position held by the other three Imams (i.e. Shafi’i, Malik & Ahmad), due to the Hadith “Every intoxicant is Khamr and every intoxicant is unlawful (haram)” (recorded by Imam Muslim), and also the Hadith: “Whatever intoxicates in large quantities, then a small quantity of it is also forbidden” (recorded by Ahmad, Ibn Majah & al-Darqutni and he classed it as authentic…..The (hanafi) scholars have stated that the Fatwa of prohibition given in our times is due to widespread Fitna….meaning, due to the fact that most people now consume these beverages for the purpose of pleasure and not to gain strength for worship, they have been forbidden altogether.” (Radd al-Muhtar ala al-Durr al-Mukhtar, 6/454-455)

The upshot of all of the foregoing is that, now all the four Sunni schools of Islamic law are unanimous on the fact that all types of alcohols and beverages are unlawful (haram) and impure (najis), even in small quantities. Any beverage that intoxicates in a large amount, even a drop of it will be considered unlawful (haram).

However, due to the initial difference of opinion regarding alcohol and given that Imam Abu Hanifa (Allah have mercy on him) himself is of the view that alcohol from other than grapes, dates, and barley is not forbidden if consumed for gaining strength, contemporary scholars have ruled that the prevalent perfumes, deodorants and creams may be used, for normally the alcohol used in them is from other than grapes, dates and barley (or synthetic alcohol), and these types of alcohols will be although unlawful (haram) to consume, but not impure for external application. In other words, the view of Imam Abu Hanifa and Imam Abu Yusuf (Allah have mercy on them both) may be used for external application of these alcohols but not for oral intake.

In our times, because of the widespread use of alcohol in all sorts of things, it has become very difficult to avoid it. This is why great Hanafi scholars of our times have given the abovementioned fatwa, in that the external use of this type of alcohol is not Haram. However, its oral intake is still impermissible except in cases of necessary medication.

Shaykh Mufti Muhammad Taqi Usmani (may Allah preserve him) states in his monumental Arabic work Takmila Fath al-Mulhim:

“With the above (explanation given by Shaykh Taqi on the different types of alcohol), the ruling with regards to the various types of alcohol, the usage of which has become widespread and they are used in many medicines and perfumes, becomes known, in that if the alcohol is extracted from grapes or dates, then there is no question of it being permissible or pure. However, if the alcohol is derived from other than grapes or dates, then there is no problem according to the view of Imam Abu Hanifa, in that it will not be unlawful to use such alcohol (m, and perfumes and medicines made thereof) for medical or other lawful purposes as long as the alcohol does not reach the level of intoxication…. And normally the alcohol used in medicines, perfumes, etc is not extracted from grapes and dates, rather it is derived from seeds, honey, chemicals, petrol, etc. (Takmila Fath al-Mulhim Sharh Sahih Muslim, 3/608)

To summarise, it would be permitted to use the various types of perfumes, deodorants and creams that contain alcohol due to the fact that the alcohol contained in them is from other than grapes, dates and barley or it is a synthetic alcohol (formulated from chemical substances) and not the khamr (wine) that is absolutely impermissible and filthy.

However, it is more religiously precautionary to avoid using such perfumes and deodorants, whenever reasonably possible, because of the differences of opinion regarding it.

But it should be remembered that, occasionally certain deodorants, perfumes, etc contain alcohol that is derived from grapes, dates, etc, such as synthetic ethyl alcohol, thus making the perfume or cream impure and unlawful to use.

And Allah Knows Best

Muhammad ibn Adam
Darul Iftaa
Leicester , UK

http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43861/27018301/Question_on_Hanafi
wallahua'llam


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Post time 16-2-2017 09:24 PM | Show all posts
jadi , tak payah confuse.  dan kalau anda dibeti peluang untuk hidup dan mengetahui tarikh lkematian anda, cer bayangkan mereka yg akan ke tali gantung yg tahu tarikh mati, according to ustaz yg kaunseling depa, masa waktu solat sehari sebleum subuh tu pun rasa longlai...

ketika itu  cuba bayangkan quality  ibadat mana yg anda nak lakukan ? i mean bil adengar tazkirah ustaz tu, memang tersentuh terfikir yg batapa nikmat Allah tu pelbagai , dan dunia ini ujian.



so...u know saya pesan pada diri saya sendiri juga , buatlah yg terbaik. hidup ini mensyukuri nikmat-Nya.
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Post time 16-2-2017 09:41 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
mbhcsf replied at 16-2-2017 09:24 PM
jadi , tak payah confuse.  dan kalau anda dibeti peluang untuk hidup dan mengetahui tarikh lkematian ...

Elleh tak abis2 modal takut mati
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Post time 16-2-2017 09:42 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Godless replied at 16-2-2017 09:16 PM
tak batal lak waktu berasak2 masa haji...... hukum tuhan berubah2 ikut lokasi?  

patut  ...

Tu la pasal. Mazhab shafie bleh plak pakai skjp mazhab lain waktu haji.

Persoalannya camne depa tahu tuhan redha ke tak?
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Post time 16-2-2017 09:46 PM | Show all posts
abangbikerz replied at 16-2-2017 09:41 PM
Elleh tak abis2 modal takut mati

kenape, marah ke?

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abangbikerz replied at 16-2-2017 09:42 PM
Tu la pasal. Mazhab shafie bleh plak pakai skjp mazhab lain waktu haji.

Persoalannya camne depa ...

okay - kalau anda tahu board agama islam dah jawab persoalan ini - sebab ad org pun dah berguru - ni saya bawa apa yg ditaipkannya dalam mazhab syafie pun ada dikatakan tentang wuduk ketika tawaf.
nanti saya tanya.atau anda boleh check.

tapi kalau tak salah saya anda sentuh bab talfiq.

itu pun kena faham juga, kan ulama tu semua tujuan memudahkan tanpa compromise rukun?
so tengoklah itu satu  kemuncak ijtihad akal fikiran yg bersumberkan rasional yg sahih dan org yg betul bertauliah.


wallahua'llam.

have a nice day.







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