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[Video] Tak Fasih Bahasa Melayu, Batalkan Sahaja Kewarganegaraan?
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Tu lah pasal......bertutur tp pelat apa isunya.....PELAT bkn bermaksud TIDAK FASIH.....
Isunya ada warganegara tp LANGSUNG X TAHU BERTUTUR dalam bahasa kebangsaan...tu persoalannya...
AHso or Ahkaw or AHder nak sebut ROKOK jadi LOKOK, BERAPA jadi BILAPA, DUIT jadi LUIT tu xder hal.....tu small matter
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Yang, ai nak highlight yea. Im sorry sangat kalau ai sound harsh ker hape. Ai perasan budak2 yang Chinese educated bila diorang cakap BM, syntax diorang akan ikut syntax bahasa Cina and diorang tak reti kesopanan dalam bahasa. For e.g kalau orang tua cakap dengan ngkau tanye jalan ke hape, kau jawab balik "awak ikut lolong sini aaa... nanti pusing kat kanan lepas due awak pusing kirrriew arrr... and so on". Pelat is another thing, another things is kesopanan bahasa ngkau takde. Tak reti nak beza penggunaan bahasa. Bahasa Chinese yang ajar kat SRJKC tue kan based kat PRC. I think it is different to what Chinese used to speak masa sebelum Cultural Revolution. Kalau bahasa Melayu, kau address orang yang tanya ngkau tue ikut rank. Pakcik ker, makcik ker, akak, puan, tuan, encik and etc. So, haper opinion uols? Bukan kau jer, yang. Maybe forumers lain ker? 
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setuju sgt dgn sis bedah.....walaupun sis terkenal sebagai ratu gelenyar tetapi hari ni sis mampu reply tered ini dgn begitu ilmiah.....
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Herm hermm. Ai neh bukan haper modader heii. Ai dah bosan orang duk look down kat bahasa Melayu. Bab Chinese or Indian kutuk bahasa Melayu as law class ai kurang lar nak membebelnya. Dah diorang memang tak cakap bahasa tue kat rumah diorang. Neh, yang stok2 bajet urban Melayu dah naper? Takde istilah BM lar hape nak terangkan bahasa sains, Malaysia neh takde innovation terbaru bagai. Hellloooo, cakap jer ngkau sebenarnye nak prestij and nak show off. Kalau kau nak seribu daya kau takde pun bagi dalih2 bagai. Eiiiii, maaak makikan jer 
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Bedah.Cun replied at 16-2-2017 04:45 PM
Yang, ai nak highlight yea. Im sorry sangat kalau ai sound harsh ker hape. Ai perasan budak2 yang ...
another prejudis.
fyi. chinese school especially sjkc syllabus has nothing to do with PRC. it is 100% drafted by kementerian pendidikan malaysia.
and fyi. in terms of tatabahasa and perbendaharaan kata, sjkc usually more advanced than most of the students from SK.
so why always attack on sjkc? they really speak very fluent BM. the one speak less fluent bm are from independant school where their syllabus adopted from taiwan. u guys always confusing between the term sjkc, independant school, uec.
which shows u guys either misinformed or merely prejudice
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Lagi satu, kau duduk kat Malaya neh mostly Chinese ethnic lar. Ngkau tak sensitif custom or culture orang keliling ngkau. Ai jarang spot benda neh kat Indians walaupun hader yang berlagak bajet urban macam babi gak. For e.g Hari Raya Puasa ngkau gi samakan dengan New Year and claim as Melayu punya New Year. Melayu yang Moslem tue mane hader New Year specific kat bangsa diorang. Diorang ikut Arab Moslem.
Ai sebelum kena masuk Islam ikut babah ai pun aware Hari Raya Puasa tue macam period diorang tutup bulan puasa diorang. Kalau yang sama macam New Year ngkau tue maybe Pesta Menuai orang Serawak or Sabah tue ke. Or macam Maal Hijrah Moslem.
Mostly kau lagi tau or cuma aware pasal benda2 yang common dengan Chinese kat PRC, HK or maybe Taiwan jer macam Gongxifatchoi, Cheng Beng, Hungry Ghost, Nine Emperor Gods festival, and etc jer. Kalau by ethnic rights kau tau is ok for me. Tapi kalau kau setakat or aware pasal benda neh jer tapi orang bangsa lain pon aware pasal benda2 neh. Kau pulak tak aware pasal diorang. So, tell me saper yang hidup dalam kepompong snirik skang neh?  |
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So, haper keperluannya remove class kat Sek Men JKC kalau most of students kat situ really fluent in BM?
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Bedah.Cun replied at 16-2-2017 05:00 PM
So, haper keperluannya remove class kat Sek Men JKC kalau most of students kat situ really fluent ...
u tak tahu utk sjkc. ada level primary school dan secondary school?
dlm stage primary school, mmg students kurang fasih lagi. tapi sesampai secondary of sjkc, u will be completely surprised with their master of bm. unless during the stage of secondary school, they transferred from sjkc to SK, then they might failed. as bm standard in SK really lower |
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For SJKC educated guys. Cuba kau bagi sampel buku teks SJKC for e.g history ker hape kat weols. Haper jer silibus yang hader dalam tue? Kalau macam BM, BI ker haper ai rase ai tau silibus maybe selaras dengan SK and SJKT. Mana lar tau if weols neh misinformed ker hape. So, provide your facts ke? |
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Yang ai sebutkan remove class tue untuk secondary lar, yang 
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Bedah.Cun replied at 16-2-2017 05:04 PM
For SJKC educated guys. Cuba kau bagi sampel buku teks SJKC for e.g history ker hape kat weols. Hape ...
content buku sejarah sjkc:
sejarah dunia (sikit saja)
sejarah malaysia (byk)
sejarah tamadun islam (byk) |
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Cash la melayu urban dalam porem ni dekk....
kakak pun memang nyampah dgn stok2 yg bajet menguasai bahasa inggeris dan kurang mampu bercakap dlm bahasa melayu walhal dari kecik korang duduk kat ulu cerok tok kun sana....tup2 bila dah balik dari obersee dah pelat ckp melayu konon....kakak libas dgn kopek kang baru tau....
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Edited by pulauturtle at 16-2-2017 05:21 PM
Bedah.Cun replied at 16-2-2017 05:05 PM
Yang ai sebutkan remove class tue untuk secondary lar, yang
tak dinafikan budak srjkc tak fasih dlm bm lagi. tapi sesampai smjkc, totally different
they need to adapt, but good thing is they adapt fast |
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So, haper beza yang kau boleh listkan between SJKC and private UEC schools?
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tak fasih x pelik tapi kalau langsung x tau cakap bahasa kebangsaan.. batalkan saja.haha |
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Edited by pulauturtle at 16-2-2017 09:52 PM
Bedah.Cun replied at 16-2-2017 05:23 PM
So, haper beza yang kau boleh listkan between SJKC and private UEC schools?
sjkc:
sekolah rendah : srjkc
medium: bhs cina (except bm & english)
exam : UPSR (exam paper in bhs cina except bm & bi)
sekolah menengah : smjkc
medium : bhs cina (tetapi semua subjek diajar dlm bm kecuali bhs cina & bi)
exam : SPM (in bm except bc & bi)
srjkc & smjkc: all syllabus are drafted 100% from kementerian pendidikan malaysia.
funding : only partial, and recently because of political issue attack on sjkc, funding from government almost halted. rest are mostly donation from chinese community.
teacher: government servant. qualified teacher from kementerian pendidikan malaysia.
high ratio of mixed race study environment.
independant chinese school (not mistaken, only secondary school available)
medium: bhs cina (except bm & english. but they have option to choose certain subjects to be taught in english. usually all in bc)
exam : UEC, Unified Exam(exam paper in bhs cina except bm & bi, or the subjects chosen taught in english); optional: SPM
syllabus: all drafted by independant body, simulate system from taiwan, approved by kementerian pendidikan malaysia
funding: 100% from school fees, donations etc.
teachers : hired by the school themself
u can consider independant chinese school as international school with emphasizing teaching in bhs cina. sometimes also called as private chinese school
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Edited by pulauturtle at 16-2-2017 06:09 PM
i think most of you might be 1st time realized there are so much misinformed thing about sjkc , , independant chinese school & uec.
and u might just realized u guys so far were manipulated by politikus on the chinese education system, to kambing hitamkan sjkc as much as possible.
not much of u know about smjkc that teaching all subjects in malay language (except bc and bi), and some of you even dunno how to different in between sjkc, independant school and uec...
which by now u should u are manipulated by politikus, and sjkc in particular, are victimized by the cheap political agenda of them |
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mmg byk macam tu skrg. bila tanya malay, jawab bahasa lain. hmm |
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siskepoh replied at 16-2-2017 06:17 PM
mmg byk macam tu skrg. bila tanya malay, jawab bahasa lain. hmm
melayu ramai mcm tu |
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Edited by finesse at 16-2-2017 06:48 PM
Bedah.Cun replied at 16-2-2017 04:51 PM
Herm hermm. Ai neh bukan haper modader heii. Ai dah bosan orang duk look down kat bahasa Melayu. B ...
Masa belajar uni dulu ada mat salleh aussie sado lg hensem yg fasih berbhs indon kata kwn sebilik dia org cina tempatan tak reti ckp bhs inggeris atau bhs melayu. Kemain dia kata memalukn dan org mcm teman sebilik dia tu hidup dlm dunia dia sendiri, terasing drpd realiti rakyat malaysia yg lain. Katanya lahh..
Aku dan kwn baik ak yg berbangsa cina sorg tu malu2 je dengar. Cepat2 kwn ak ckp cina penang saja mcm tuh. Cina tempat lain x mcm tuh..  kwn ak tu fasih sgt berbhs melayu. Aksen dan lenggok dia sebijik sama dgn org melayu. Dah la fasih dlm bhs jepun. Tp yg pasti dia selalu bergaul dgn org melayu. Spesis x suka bergaul dgn kaum cina saja. |
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Post time 16-2-2017 04:39 PM
