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Author: juliez

[Jenayah] 4th Abduction.. "take care boss!"

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Post time 10-4-2017 01:05 AM | Show all posts
juliez replied at 9-4-2017 05:00 PM
Polis ckp dia kena kidnap sbb ada sangkut paut dgn forex yg dia buat tu. Ala2 scam org. Then c ...

Sekarang ni apa yang I nampak based on artikel yang kita sama-sama baca, cara Amri dan Pastor Raymond diculik adalah sama. Bagi kes Joshua dan kes Peter, kita tak tahu bagaimana cara penculikan itu berlaku/terjadi.




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Post time 10-4-2017 01:09 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
juliez replied at 10-4-2017 01:05 AM
Yg 2nd case pastor hilmy langsung takde coverage dlm paper, tau kata dah hilang lepas pastor r ...

Tu la..kes ni betul2 misteri n pelik..Macam cluless..Tapi seriously pastor tu kaitan ape pulak?? Xkn isu yg sama macam amri..

Iols keliru gitu...
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WhiskeyScotch replied at 10-4-2017 01:02 AM
Well done, Juliez. Thank you for all the infos.

Berdasarkan kes-kes yang dibentangkan oleh Jul ...



Spekuan i yes kumpulan yg sama (extremist). Why? Related to agama/belief

I dont think gov ada involved dlm kes ni semua eventho group yg kidnap pastor raymond ala2 unit tindakan khas kan. Why gov tak involved? Sebab mangsa2nya ada yg high profile ppl (pastor raymond, pastor joshua) & ada yg org biasa2, i meant walaupun amri che mat di tuduh syiah, dia bknnya ketua syiah msia ker apa kan. And yg latest mangsa pun setakat activist biasa je. But tatau la kalau dorang ni semua ada involved dgn pertubuhan bwh tanah kan
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Post time 10-4-2017 01:20 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Yang pasti polis tau sesuatu tapi x nak bgtau je.. ingat polis msia ni bodoh sgt ke..mesti x nak spekulasi di kalangan org awam..tapi yg minta wang  tebusan tu rasanya menyeluk di air keruh je kot
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emelia1509 replied at 10-4-2017 01:09 AM
Tu la..kes ni betul2 misteri n pelik..Macam cluless..Tapi seriously pastor tu kaitan ape pulak?? X ...



Pastor raymond salah sorang pastor yg terkenal memurtadkan org islam

Pastor joshua hilmy pulak asalnya melayu islam yg masuk christian, sama jugak aktif murtadkan org islam, pernah di tahan ISA
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Post time 10-4-2017 01:25 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Kena brainwashed kat kamunting kot..
Lps tu buang daerah.
Isu2 murtad ni mmg kes sensitif
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Post time 10-4-2017 01:26 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
juliez replied at 10-4-2017 01:21 AM
Pastor raymond salah sorang pastor yg terkenal memurtadkan org islam

Pastor joshua hilmy ...

oic...tq for info..

but isu nye amri pasal syiah ada kaitan ke dgn kes pastor tu..macam x berkait pun kan...kat fb pun ada macam2 kisah yg lain2..so iols mmg x berapa paham..

anyway, tq info td tu..
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Post time 10-4-2017 01:34 AM | Show all posts
emelia1509 replied at 9-4-2017 05:26 PM
oic...tq for info..

but isu nye amri pasal syiah ada kaitan ke dgn kes pastor tu..macam x berka ...

Kalau ada kaitan pun antara kes Amri dengan Pastor Raymond ialah cara mereka diculik adalah sama seperti yang ditulis dalam artikel yang Juliez tepek.
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Post time 10-4-2017 01:45 AM | Show all posts
juliez replied at 9-4-2017 05:14 PM
Spekuan i yes kumpulan yg sama (extremist). Why? Related to agama/belief

I dont think gov a ...

One thing kalau kumpulan extremist, PDRM for sure akan dapat clue. Especially SB. Mmg scope kerja SB pun tangani golongan extremist ni. Tapi, PDRM still tegaskan depa takda clue.

Macam ada possibility tak all those missions dapat sanction from someone yang mempunyai rank yang tinggi?   




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emelia1509 replied at 10-4-2017 01:26 AM
oic...tq for info..

but isu nye amri pasal syiah ada kaitan ke dgn kes pastor tu..macam x berka ...



persamaannya aktiviti yg dorang involved, syiah.. murtadkan org islam, boleh mengancam agama islam. So puak2 extremist islam mana boleh benda2 mcm ni
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Post time 10-4-2017 07:50 AM | Show all posts
tak nak campur....hentam lah Labu...
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Post time 10-4-2017 03:18 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
WhiskeyScotch replied at 10-4-2017 12:12 AM
cc: @chazey

I believe you mesti berminat nak discuss.

Uol,

Kan ada sorang lagik aktivitis Melayu hilang tanpa kesan ala Raymond Koh? Pasal heol ada dalam tered ni ke?  (*belum backlog).
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Post time 10-4-2017 03:19 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
WhiskeyScotch replied at 10-4-2017 01:05 AM
Sekarang ni apa yang I nampak based on artikel yang kita sama-sama baca, cara Amri dan Pastor Raym ...

Oh dah ada rupanya pasal mamat Amri tu.

Nak beklog dulu, tengok info2 menarik dalam tered ni.
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Post time 10-4-2017 03:23 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
juliez replied at 10-4-2017 12:26 AM
Yes, yg tu no 3 yg kena kidnap, pastor joshua hilmy. Malay pastor

HWAT? PASTOR JOSHUA PUN HILANG??!  

Ok Juliez. Kalau camtu dah sah2 semua yang diculik ni dah mati.

Aiol agak lebih ramai akan hilang.



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Post time 10-4-2017 03:29 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
juliez replied at 9-4-2017 11:59 PM
@Changa @WhiskeyScotch

I rasa geng2 isis yg kidnap

Moge di jumpai segere
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Post time 10-4-2017 03:33 PM | Show all posts
chazey replied at 10-4-2017 07:23 AM
HWAT? PASTOR JOSHUA PUN HILANG??!   

Ok Juliez. Kalau camtu dah sah2 semua yang diculik ni ...

So far, keempat-empat kes penculik tak minta langsung wang tebusan. Selalunya kalau kes culik penculik tak minta wang tebusan, you dah boleh agak la kan apa akan berlaku seterusnya.
Kalau ada wang tebusan diminta oleh penculik sekurang-kurangnya kita tahu mangsa masih hidup/selamat. Possibility tu ada. Yang ni takda wang tebusan diminta. So, indikador nak kata masih hidup/selamat tu tipis lah.

Macam apa yang Juliez syak ada possibility extremist punya group yang buat. I masih hold pandangan Juliez tu. I pula syak all those missions macam dapat sanction from higher authority.

Pandangan you pula macam mana?
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Post time 10-4-2017 03:35 PM | Show all posts
Super-M replied at 9-4-2017 10:13 PM
betol.. dalam group wasap aku ada bincangkan tentang maklumat berkenaan penculikkan ni,mangsanya s ...

If you don't mind, jom lah share dekat sini. Kalau PnC it's okeyh. I faham je.
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Post time 10-4-2017 03:35 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
juliez replied at 10-4-2017 12:26 AM
Yes, yg tu no 3 yg kena kidnap, pastor joshua hilmy. Malay pastor

Raymond Koh dengan Joshua Hilmi @ Hilmi Mohd Nor tu kira bff dalam dunia penginjilan.

Bila google, baru aiol tau Joshua Hilmi lebih lama hilang dari Raymond Koh, since November 2016!
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Post time 10-4-2017 03:39 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
WhiskeyScotch replied at 10-4-2017 03:33 PM
So far, keempat-empat kes penculik tak minta langsung wang tebusan. Selalunya kalau kes culik penc ...


Same with you guys.

I am afraid they are no longer living. Kes habam Amri dengan kes terbaru ni entah apa motif diculik. Kes Raymond dengan Hilmi tu pula obvious sangat. Biasanya takkan jumpa dah sebab aiol masih ingat kes Malay pastor went missing kat JB lebih 18 tahun lepas,  memang tak jumpa sampai sekarang
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Post time 10-4-2017 03:47 PM | Show all posts
chazey replied at 10-4-2017 07:39 AM
Same with you guys.

I am afraid they are no longer living. Kes habam Amri dengan kes terbaru n ...

Kes si Amri tu katanya sebab dia menganut fahaman syiah. Syiah dgn sunni kan jauh fahamannya. Menurut sunni, syiah ni sesat. Bila ideologi dah tak sehaluan you faham-faham je la kan. Kes Amri ni I tak berapa familiar sangat. Mungkin I salah. So, siapa yang mahir kes ni boleh bagi input.

Kalau kes Raymod dgn Joshua tu I mmg familiar. Yang Peter ni actually I tak faham kenapa dia pun terheret sekali. Too much info ke posting dia dekat FB tu sampai trigger penculik nak culik dia? And Peter ni pun hilang gitu jah sama dgn Joshua. Tak macam Raymond and Amri ada bukti nampak bagaimana depa diculik.
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