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Author: Laxamana.

SELATAN THAI BELUM MERDEKA?

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Post time 5-5-2004 03:25 PM | Show all posts
get them into malaysia much like bosnian moslems.

enuff said.
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Post time 5-5-2004 03:43 PM | Show all posts
by KENNKID

I am not siding anybody in this but I think Seph should study the history of the three provinces in Southern Thailand first before making any comments.

Comment anda tentang Malaysia penyibuk tidak tepat kerana anda tidak mengkaji dari sudut sejarah.

http://www.rockmekong.org/media-cov/queens_patani/queens.htm



Excuse me, which historical data shows that Thai Muslims have ANY rights to protest about anything in South Thailand?

Historically, they have no rights to fight for anything in South Thai or Mindanao for that matter. They are traitors to their countries, same as Al Muanahs were to this country couple of years ago. And traitors must be dealt with death.

            
by RedChaSiew

get them into malaysia much like bosnian moslems.

enuff said.  


Good suggestion. Malaysia is being "penyibuk" with this issues (especially with traitor fractions in various countries like Filipines, Thai and Kashmir. They should just import this people here if Malaysia government so itch to help. ;)
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Post time 5-5-2004 04:03 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Sephiroth at 2004-5-5 03:43 PM:
by KENNKID

I am not siding anybody in this but I think Seph should study the history of the three provinces in Southern Thailand first before making any comments.

Comment anda tentang Ma ...


You are talking about something else. Of course they have no right to protest. If they have the right to protest than they would not have been shot in the first place. They would have been allowed to protest - in South Thailand or The Philippines for that matter; The historical data I was talking about is about their historical Malay identity. Patani is essentially a Malay area. Historically it was also a Malay state.
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Post time 5-5-2004 04:57 PM | Show all posts
MARI KITA MERDEKAKAN SELURUH 14 WILAYAH SELATAN THAILAND SELAIN DARI PATTANI,YALA & LEGEH(NARADIVAS)
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Post time 6-5-2004 08:19 AM | Show all posts
by KENNKID

You are talking about something else. Of course they have no right to protest . If they have the right to protest than they would not have been shot in the first place. They would have been allowed to protest - in South Thailand or The Philippines for that matter; The historical data I was talking about is about their historical Malay identity. Patani is essentially a Malay area. Historically it was also a Malay state.

Nonsense ... ;)

They didn't have a right to protest as you agreed and they did it anyway and got shoot in the process. Furthermore, they didn't just protest, they also raised weapons and that's treason ... same as Al Muanah did in Malaysia.

And WHAT historical fact state that Patani was a Malay state? Do you think such nonsense could last 5 seconds in the world court? NO, do you know why?

1. "Malay" state didn't exist till some 1900s and the word "Malay" itself only appeared after Independance in 1948.

2. Thailand and Malaysia border is established and agreed upon by both parties. WHO are this people ... hell, WHO are you do question that now?

3. Thailand's long history shows that it has more rights to Patani than Malays did. In one time (up to 1600s), the Northern side of Malaya like Kedah, Terengganu, Perlis and part of Pahang were under Thai monarch and this states frequently send "Bunga Emas" as ufti to Thai. By right, Thai could easily claim those states are theirs also and launch a guerilla war to regain it. They don't do it because they respect Malaysia's border.

4. Being Muslims doesn't means everything belongs to you.
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Post time 6-5-2004 08:29 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Sephiroth at 5-5-2004 02:47 PM:
by Laxamana.

[2. Silakan mereka masuk ke Malaysia kerana Malaysia kian menjadi penyibuk no. 1 di Dunia sekarang.


tak dengar tv ke semalam amerika tu pulak yang sibuk2 nak hantar tentera mereka pulak ke sana. amerika tu baru penyibuk no. 1 dunia..bukannya nak cari penyelesaian kearah kedamaian..nak musnahkan rakyat thai lagi ada maka bertambah huru-hara lah jadi nya akhir sekali thai pun spt iraq. atleast malaysia atas dasar simpati sekadar menghulur kem perlindungan bagi rakyat yang mungkin menderita akibat peperangan, bukannya malaysia nak jadi penyibuk pun macam amerika tu..korang ni tak habis2 nak jadi barua amerika sayang sekali darah yang mengalir kat dalam badan tu darah asia tapi pemikiran lebih kepada kebaratan..apa yang korang bangga dengan orang2 barat ni dan apa yang korang dapat bila korang mengagungkan mereka?
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Post time 6-5-2004 08:58 AM | Show all posts
by WICKED

tak dengar tv ke semalam amerika tu pulak yang sibuk2 nak hantar tentera mereka pulak ke sana. amerika tu baru penyibuk no. 1 dunia..bukannya nak cari penyelesaian kearah kedamaian..nak musnahkan rakyat thai lagi ada maka bertambah huru-hara lah jadi nya akhir sekali thai pun spt iraq. atleast malaysia atas dasar simpati sekadar menghulur kem perlindungan bagi rakyat yang mungkin menderita akibat peperangan, bukannya malaysia nak jadi penyibuk pun macam amerika tu..korang ni tak habis2 nak jadi barua amerika sayang sekali darah yang mengalir kat dalam badan tu darah asia tapi pemikiran lebih kepada kebaratan..apa yang korang bangga dengan orang2 barat ni dan apa yang korang dapat bila korang mengagungkan mereka?  

Right ... My mistake. Malaysia is the 2nd "penyibuk" in the world.

And I agree also ... sending troops won't change anything. This is internal problem of Thailand (and Filipines) and they should be allowed to handle the matters themselves.

Hmmm ... it seems that US still hangs onto the "Domino Effect" fear despite of been proven that it doesn't happen and they have forgotten their defeat in Vietnam.
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Post time 6-5-2004 11:15 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by rapid at 5-5-2004 04:57 PM:
MARI KITA MERDEKAKAN SELURUH 14 WILAYAH SELATAN THAILAND SELAIN DARI PATTANI,YALA & LEGEH(NARADIVAS)


Thailand prolem is their own problem..We Malaysians have no rights to say anything in their affairs.Just because they are of same race and religion means nothing in this problem..
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Post time 6-5-2004 11:24 AM | Show all posts
pak lah has to play to the muslim crowd and somehow say some stupid thing.
so he says something like he will give refuge to refugees, along the humanitarian line when there is clearly no such needs.

I think those militants deserve to die and its good that Thailand adopted a no nonsence stance towards them. The best method is still the Chinese way of dealing with seperatism and brought progress to the country.
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Post time 6-5-2004 12:06 PM | Show all posts
Simple say, some might use the current issue of terrorism to commit crimes, and use it like as though it is an uprising, might also be true. True or not we do not know but one thing is for sure, Thai government have the backing to curb this violance and there shall NOT be any seperate land.
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Post time 6-5-2004 12:08 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 6-5-2004 11:24:
pak lah has to play to the muslim crowd and somehow say some stupid thing.
so he says something like he will give refuge to refugees, along the humanitarian line when there is clearly no such nee ...


Eh... You read finish one or not har?????? He siad he give refuge to refugees but HE WILL NEVER ALLOW THOSE CRIMINALS OR SEPERATIST, WHICHEVER IT IS, TO HIDE IN MALAYSIA, NOR WILL HE ASSIST THEM, BUT WILL GIVE THAT GOVERNMENT ITS FULL COOPERATION, AND IF THAILAND SEEKS FOR IT, WE WILL GIVE HELP.
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Post time 6-5-2004 12:10 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 4-5-2004 10:53:
I think both Msia and Thai adopted a shoot to kill stance towards criminals when gassing them would have done the trick. I was locked up in a gas chamber with tear gas before, its very painful & ...



That is why you know little and you speak much. The armed forces will never kill if the enemy surrenders or if they can bring them down by non-killing methods, except for one case.
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Post time 6-5-2004 12:12 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by WICKED at 6-5-2004 08:29:


tak dengar tv ke semalam amerika tu pulak yang sibuk2 nak hantar tentera mereka pulak ke sana. amerika tu baru penyibuk no. 1 dunia..bukannya nak cari penyelesaian kearah kedamaian..nak musnahk ...

:setuju:
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Post time 6-5-2004 12:13 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Sephiroth at 6-5-2004 08:58:
by WICKED

tak dengar tv ke semalam amerika tu pulak yang sibuk2 nak hantar tentera mereka pulak ke sana. amerika tu baru penyibuk no. 1 dunia..bukannya nak cari penyelesaian kearah kedamaian ...


Are you a Malaysian???? Malaysia is not second penyibuk, mind you. Malaysia is offering assistance because Thailand shares its borders with us on the north and we offer assistance, if they asked for it ONLY!!!! US have no businees here and there.
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Post time 6-5-2004 12:14 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by ariyamusafir at 2004-5-6 12:08 PM:


Eh... You read finish one or not har?????? He siad he give refuge to refugees but HE WILL NEVER ALLOW THOSE CRIMINALS OR SEPERATIST, WHICHEVER IT IS, TO HIDE IN MALAYSIA, NOR WILL HE AS ...


But there are no refugees at all. Thats the funny part. hahahahahahahaha.....
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Post time 6-5-2004 12:14 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Seraphim at 6-5-2004 11:15:


Thailand prolem is their own problem..We Malaysians have no rights to say anything in their affairs.Just because they are of same race and religion means nothing in this problem..

And we did not unless Thailand seeks for our help.
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Post time 6-5-2004 12:15 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 6-5-2004 12:14:


But there are no refugees at all. Thats the funny part. hahahahahahahaha.....


we only offer if there is.
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Post time 6-5-2004 12:15 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 6-5-2004 11:24:
pak lah has to play to the muslim crowd and somehow say some stupid thing.
so he says something like he will give refuge to refugees, along the humanitarian line when there is clearly no such nee ...



Eh... I thought you pro-America.:cak:
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Post time 6-5-2004 12:16 PM | Show all posts
And Singapore will offer refuge to Msian refugees if there is too. Hahahahahahahaha................

cheers
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Post time 6-5-2004 12:29 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 6-5-2004 12:16:
And Singapore will offer refuge to Msian refugees if there is too. Hahahahahahahaha................

cheers


However, Malaysia is a peaceful country, in general and there will not be refugees. Thank for the offer. As a symbol of good will, I believe the Datuk Seri Pak Lah's administration will also offer refuge to Singapore citizens if they are invaded or if there is chaos.
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