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Sains vs Agama - Bulan terbelah dua ^_^

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Post time 18-6-2017 12:39 PM | Show all posts |Read mode
Edited by Rahman_Mulhid at 18-6-2017 10:55 PM


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Post time 18-6-2017 01:21 PM | Show all posts
Hmmmm ..... no evidence for 'splitting of the moon'?

Actually this event has been documented.

The incident relating to King Chakrawati Farmas is documented in an old manuscript in the India Office Library, London, which has reference number: Arabic, 2807, 152-173. It is quoted in the book “Muhammad Rasulullah,” by M. Hamidullah:

    “There is a very old tradition in Malabar, South-West Coast of India, that Chakrawati Farmas, one of their kings, had observed the splitting of the moon, the celebrated miracle of the Holy Prophet (pbuh) at Mecca, and learning on inquiry that there was a prediction of the coming of a Messenger of God from Arabia, he appointed his son as regent and set out to meet him. He embraced Islam at the hand of the Prophet, and when returning home, at the direction of the Prophet, died at the port of Zafar, Yemen, where the tomb of the “Indian king” was piously visited for many centuries.”

The old manuscript in the 'India Office Library' contains several other details about King Chakrawati Farmas and his travel.

I personally did ask for this via email. The following is what I received :
Sorry for the delay in answering your enquiry, but it is partly due to
the fact that your source “Muhammad Rasulullah,” by M. Hamidullah” gave
only a partially correct reference.

I have located the manuscript you are interested in. The shelf mark is
IO ISLAMIC 2807 and the section you want is on pages 81 verso – 104
verso (inclusive). It is entitled “Qissat Shakruti Firmad” which,
according to the catalogue (Loth 1044), is “A fabulous account of the
first settlement of the Muhammadans in Malabar, under King Shakruti
(Cranganore), a contemporary of Muhammad, who was converted to Islam by
the miracle of the division of the the moon.”

Should you wish to order a microfilm or paper copy see
http://www.bl.uk/services/copy/reproduction.html for prices and method
of ordering and payment.

For further enquiries on photography you should contact
reproductions-customer-service@bl.uk, quoting in all correspondence the
shelfmark IO ISLAMIC 2807, pages 81 verso- 104 verso and your full
postal address.

Sincerely

Colin Baker

Dr Colin F Baker
Head of Near and Middle Eastern Collections
The British Library
Asia, Pacific and Africa Collections
96 Euston Road
London NW1 2DB

T +44 (0)20 7412 7645
F +44 (0)20 7412 7858
colin.baker@bl.uk
http://www.bl.uk

Macamana mat slow? Ada berani tanya Dr Colin Baker? Hang mesti takut tanya .... begegar iman atheis

Kalo dah tak ada bukti (ie. manusia dari monyet) , pasal apa ko percaya? Bermakna ko beriman buta pada perkara tersebut

Mungkin sis mbhcsf boleh tolong , @mbhcsf


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 Author| Post time 18-6-2017 02:45 PM | Show all posts
boleh belah bulan, tapi mati sebab apa?  


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Post time 18-6-2017 07:06 PM | Show all posts
Rahman_Mulhid replied at 18-6-2017 02:45 PM
boleh belah bulan, tapi mati sebab apa?

LOL ..... ko tak mampu jawab lagi

Cepat2 ko tukar topik pada mati pulak? Nabi Muhammad(saw) manusia , tentu akan mati

Isu skg , ada bukti berupa dokumen ttg saksi yg bulan terbelah

Muslim ada bukti , kapiaq macam ko hanya ada air liuk basi

Mana dia bukti ko yg manusia dari monyet , I mean bukti manusia <---- intermediate specie <---- monyet

Apa yg susah? Single cell bacteria pon ko tak mampu bukti jadi multi cellular

Macamana mat slow?
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 Author| Post time 18-6-2017 10:46 PM | Show all posts
buktikan dulu nabi ko dah belah bulan tu     
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Post time 18-6-2017 11:24 PM | Show all posts
Rahman_Mulhid replied at 18-6-2017 10:46 PM
buktikan dulu nabi ko dah belah bulan tu

Ha ha ..... pasal apa ko tanya soalan bangang lagi? Oops ... ko mat slow ... patut pon

Ko tak reti baca ke? Kenyataan Dr Baker diulang :
Sorry for the delay in answering your enquiry, but it is partly due to
the fact that your source “Muhammad Rasulullah,” by M. Hamidullah” gave
only a partially correct reference.

I have located the manuscript you are interested in. The shelf mark is
IO ISLAMIC 2807 and the section you want is on pages 81 verso – 104
verso (inclusive). It is entitled “Qissat Shakruti Firmad” which,
according to the catalogue (Loth 1044), is “A fabulous account of the
first settlement of the Muhammadans in Malabar, under King Shakruti
(Cranganore), a contemporary of Muhammad, who was converted to Islam by
the miracle of the division of the the moon.”

Should you wish to order a microfilm or paper copy see
http://www.bl.uk/services/copy/reproduction.html for prices and method
of ordering and payment.

For further enquiries on photography you should contact
reproductions-customer-service@bl.uk, quoting in all correspondence the
shelfmark IO ISLAMIC 2807, pages 81 verso- 104 verso and your full
postal address.

Sincerely

Colin Baker

Dr Colin F Baker
Head of Near and Middle Eastern Collections
The British Library
Asia, Pacific and Africa Collections
96 Euston Road
London NW1 2DB

T +44 (0)20 7412 7645
F +44 (0)20 7412 7858
colin.baker@bl.uk
http://www.bl.uk

Senang aje soalan pada ko ttg evolution. Boleh bagi mana bukti single cell jadi multi cells?

atheis macam ko dah mula gelabah

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 Author| Post time 18-6-2017 11:26 PM | Show all posts
bulan terbelah dua? patut kena ajar kat universiti   
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Post time 18-6-2017 11:44 PM | Show all posts
Rahman_Mulhid replied at 18-6-2017 11:26 PM
bulan terbelah dua? patut kena ajar kat universiti

Ha ha .... kan dah kena sebijik tang dahi

Ko tak reti membaca kenyataan Dr Baker? Oh yeah .... ko mat slow

Laaa ... pada ko , kalo bulan tersebut terbelah dua .... tinggal belah dua aje lah

Ko lagi sekali tak pakai otak

Susah sangat ke untuk ko pakai otak berpikir?

Macamana? Boleh tak ko bagi bukti single to multiple cells? Nampak macam ko terkedu aje nak jawab

Nak lari ke? Mengaku aje lah .... ko tak ada bukti ...... kesian .... kah kah kah

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 Author| Post time 18-6-2017 11:44 PM | Show all posts
gila bongok delusional bulan terbelah dua   
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Post time 19-6-2017 05:43 AM | Show all posts
Rahman_Mulhid replied at 18-6-2017 11:44 PM
gila bongok delusional bulan terbelah dua

Ha ha ..... oh ye ke?

Pada pahaman songsang ko tu , kalo ada bukti bermakna delusional?

Patut pon ko ni mat slow. Cuba ko cerita sikit ...... apa yg ko tau sebenarnya

Tambi ooi ..... mana bukti evolution ko tu .... simple aje ....bukti dari single ---> multi cells

Terkedu nak jawab - sampai tak cukup tanah lari ..... ko mat slow tapi gah pulak nak cakap pasal sains

Kesian ..... mat slow diperbodohkan lagi .... dan lagi .... dan lagi

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 Author| Post time 19-6-2017 06:00 AM | Show all posts
ntah mana bukti bulan terbelah dua.........   
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Post time 19-6-2017 11:30 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Interesting.  Minta pencerahan cerita bulan terbelah dua
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Post time 19-6-2017 12:36 PM | Show all posts
Rahman_Mulhid replied at 19-6-2017 06:00 AM
ntah mana bukti bulan terbelah dua.........

Ha ha .... dah terang bersuluh lagi

Kan dah bagi kenyataan 'first hand witness' ttg tersebut

Dokumen pulak tu di library kat London.

Awat? Hang takut contact Dr Baker ke?

Pasal apa ko tanya soalan yg telah dijawab? Oh ye .... ko mat slow .... As expected

Macamana ttg evolution ko tu? Ko dok asyik berkokok ttg evolution & sains

Senang aje , bukti single ---> multi cells.

Ko tak ada jawapan kan ..... tu pasal ko buat2 lupa aje ... kesian ... mat slow kena lagi

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Post time 19-6-2017 12:44 PM | Show all posts
Edited by Rahman-Mulhid at 19-6-2017 12:48 PM

JAWAPAN DARI LAMAN WEB RASMI NASA  

https://sservi.nasa.gov/?questio ... ving-been-split-two



Evidence of the moon having been split in two
You’ve already answered this question in August 2009 but I’d like to go into more detail. This website: http://www.mastikorner.com/forum ... hammad-p-b-u-h.html claims that Allah split the Moon in two at the request of the Prophet Mohammed and that there is a split on the Moon documented by American scientists that goes right around it which is evidence of the miracle. Is there any truth to any of these claims?

My recommendation is to not believe everything you read on the internet. Peer-reviewed papers are the only scientifically valid sources of information out there. No current scientific evidence reports that the Moon was split into two (or more) parts and then reassembled at any point in the past.

Brad Bailey

NLSI Staff Scientist

June 21, 2010






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Post time 19-6-2017 01:06 PM | Show all posts
Edited by sam1528 at 19-6-2017 01:11 PM
Rahman-Mulhid replied at 19-6-2017 12:44 PM
JAWAPAN DARI LAMAN WEB RASMI NASA  

https://sservi.nasa.gov/?questio ... ving-been-split-two

Ha ha .... so simple yet ko tak mampu gunakan otak ... ko mat slow kan

Kalo Allah dah boleh belah bulan pasal apa tak boleh cantum tanpa cacat cela?

Boleh tak ko jawab?

Ye lah para saintis kata tak ada bukti belah bulan pasal ia terjadi 1400 thn lepas

BTW , jawapan saintis NASA tu adalah ttg the 'rilles' lines on the moon. Aku pon tak percaya yg tersebut adalah bukti bulan belah dua.

LOL ..... ko dah salah sasaran lah mat slow

Isu skg aku ada bukti , kenyataan first hand witness ..... ko masih delusional

Korang nampak tak .... isu yg mat slow tak mampu jawab .... dia lari & buat tak tau

Ko dok berkokok ttg evolution , senang aje bagi bukti : single ---> multi cells

Pasal apa ko lari dari argumen sendiri mat slow?


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Post time 19-6-2017 10:27 PM | Show all posts
sam1528 replied at 19-6-2017 01:06 PM
Ha ha .... so simple yet ko tak mampu gunakan otak ... ko mat slow kan

Kalo Allah dah boleh bel ...

BODOH NAK MAMPUS   
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Post time 19-6-2017 10:58 PM | Show all posts
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Post time 19-6-2017 11:02 PM | Show all posts
sam1528 replied at 18-6-2017 01:21 PM
Hmmmm ..... no evidence for 'splitting of the moon'?

Actually this event has been documented.

and have used all the methods of search I know..to find this particular article… {Arabic, 2807, 152-173)….and even have tried to contact curator and Incharge via the emails regarding the authenticity of this article….

But so far I do not have any positive response..

….But this incident is quoted so many times…and at so many Web sites….its over whelming….. some one must have authentiated it…and validated it… Other wise… its on so many sites….it simply has become a established one…

…. I am posting this on this site to…. Because… I want to know …” is it validated ..?”
and can any one help me validate it….?

….. I cannot simply dismiss it…neither can I accept it untill its validated…

So please help me on it…


http://www.chapatimystery.com/ar ... ty/the_silence.html




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