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[Tempatan]
Renovate Jamban KLIA RM229,000 Sebijik. Bapak dia Hijau
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katakan kos mentenen 1 toilet = rm3000/tahun
131 x 3000 = 393k/tahun
393k x 4 = rm1.57m
celah mana smp up sebijik 230k??
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busuk2 pun Melayu kita jugak
jgn la nak dengki
selagi ahli UMngok peluang nak rembat terbuka sangat luas |
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hujung2 ummah bodoh duk cangkung atas tandas duduk tu. bodoh betul. dengan lantai basah2 hanyir. euwwww |
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Mungkin toilet tu merupakan portkey ke ministry of magic..err putrajaya.. |
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Ni pun satu. tak guna renovate toilet juta juta. kalau dah bodoh.
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pergghhhh lagi mahal dari apartmen kos sederhana rendah
rasa terhina lagi hina dari tinggal dalam jamban  |
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di 10 ramadhan terakhir ini, aku berdoa kepada Allah supaya melaknat kehidupan pemfitnah tegar macam ko selaknat laknatnyasemoga Allah melaknat kehidupan pemfitnah tegar kepada engkau dalam doa 10 ramadhan terakhir
Amin
So it seems there are some /ktards who don't value engineering works.
I will refute all your claims that the toilets were expensive.. indeed, it was a fair tender price awarded to a company that supplied a great service.
Also, do you think engineers & our work comes cheap? Just remember the world you live in was built entirely by us.
Now, KLIA recently upgraded their toilets. The true name is actually 'Plumbing & Sanitary' Upgrade Works aka 'PnS works'.
The following items fall under PnS category:-
1. Hot & Cold-water pipe.
These pipes are Stainless Steel or Copper material. IF you don't use this material you will choke & be drinking lead.
Common sizes are 15mm - 28mm. Per meter run is RM40.00 to RM80.00. Hot-water pipes require insulation wrapping too, RM4.00 per mtr. I will modestly estimate the amount of cold/hot water pipes in KLIA to be 40km long. This amounts to RM1.6million - RM3.2million. Just purely supply, not inclusive of installation yet. I will come to installation costs later.
2. Sewerage & Drainage System
Unless you want to smell shit & pee as you enter a toilet, you are going to need a sewerage & drainage system. Do you think your feces magically disappears after flushing? That shit goes somewhere.. A modest cost for KLIA refurbishment supply of the ejector pumps, expansion of inspection chambers (includes excavation, cement works, etc) and all the other items for each and every toilet can easily cost RM15,000/each. 131 toilets * RM15,000 = RM2mil..
This also assumes that KLIA did not change the sewerage & waste pipes. They just re-used the ones already dug deep underground.
3. Sanitary Fixtures
So this is where your so-called toilets fall under. The proper name for a toilet is called 'water closet'. You also have wash basins, bidet taps, hose bibs, shower heads, sinks, urinal traps, etc. The average cost per item, RM4,500/ toilet. So, 131 toilets * RM4,500 = RM600,000
4. Ventilation & Fresh Air
Again, unless you want to be smelling shit & pee all day long, you are going to need to pump in fresh air and draw-out the smelly shit. You are looking at air-conditioning, duct works, fresh air pumps & fans. Let's say RM4,000/toilet. 131 toilets * RM4,000 = RM550,000
5.Landscaping & Tiling works
RM5,000/toilet. RM655,000
So, in total for just supplying the materials, your cost is about RM7million already.
Now your labour costs!
For this job, you are going to need plumbers, welders, foreman, scaffold erection, electrical wireman, plasterer, tiler, bricklayer.
Modestly, each worker is going to cost you RM150 per day.
Assume 40 workers working continuously for 8 months. 8months * 22 working days * 40 workers = 7040 man days.
Your labour supply for 8 months is going to cost you RM150 * 7040 man days = RM 1mil.
You are going to exceed that labour cost by at least 15%, so add another RM150,000 to labour cost, total RM1.2mil
Now, add in project management costs.
Like I said, engineers aint cheap. RM60,000.00 per year for a decent project engineer. You will need 5 engineers & 1 project manager. Total cost for project management RM450,000
Design costs: RM450,000
In total, you are looking at RM12mil for the entire supply & install job.
Add in another 12% for your company office overheads. This is your administrative costs, finance, procurement, & HR workers RM1.5mil
Another 12% for renting a site office, man-power mobilisation & material delivery. RM1.5mil
Another 5% for inspection & PE endorsement. RM800,000
Another 3% for tender dept commission RM550,000
In total, the job is going to cost your company 17million Ringgit Malaysia.
As a company needs to survive on profits & margins, I think it is fair to earn at least 50% profit margin. Final tender price: RM34million
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mungkin ada special button terus keterowong rahsia bawah tanah putrajaya
ala ala james bond
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tak fitnah. tapi tak logik.
- tak dak air hangat. depa pakai ayaq sejuk saja.
- piping tak perlu tukar kot. kalau tukar pipe satu klia tu kena upgrade pipe system. bukan takat pipe jamban saja. lagi satu thing been built on existing toilet.
- jamban fitting pakai besa saja. jadi tak logik kos dia melambung. apa yg canggih sangat.
- yg mamat ni kira margin profit sampai 50%. tinggi tu.
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Klia morw than 20 years old dy.. Changing pipeworks, pumps , etc is to be expected.
This job aint fresh build, alot of refurbishment and removal works will be required.
Wow.. i just realise there are alot of dumbass keyboard warriors who dunno the difference between profit and mark up.
Profit is revenue minus cost. In other words, company who awarded this tender stand to make at least 50% profit. Company pocketing 50% of profit is not unheard of in construction.
Thats just sound business decision. You want to make 10% only, thats also your choice. I think you will close shop within a month. That's how companies die.
Anyways, im merely pointing out that this project total awarded sum is not out of the ordinary.
50% for margin is quite alright,
playing with government contract they sometime also put in the cost of projected payment duration
because sometimes it takes up to 6 months for payment to be cleared, so they need to put that in as well
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hot water celah mana plakkk
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50% profit for work done by PO quite normal since payment is late. You need to pay supplier & labor cost yourself first. Wait until you see building construction profit percentage. Even in private work. |
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Nanti ada kelapangan nk gi check in toilet klia yg costnye mcm state of the art punye toilet... |
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This isnt a complete new build. You need to account for removal, addition and alterations.
Then you need to cost in coordination works and downtime due to dealing with mahb operations team directly.
They have alot more protocols and rules to follow than your typical main contractor fresh build project.
It is not an easy project this. 20mil is far too low. 25-30mil is fair rate. |
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elok la renovate toilet kt klia tu..last gi klia bulan december..toiletnya addehh mg sadis klu nak compare dgn gahnya nama klia tu..tp siyes bapak mahal kos reno toilet.. |
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I will modestly estimate the amount of cold/hot water pipes in KLIA to be 40km long
40km panjang total paip??..gilaaa nipu...ni renovate bukan buat baru
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from a centralised heater unit.
Alot of unaccounted items still missing.
Big large valves, ventrified clay pipes, sump pumps, potable water machines, filtration units, etc etc. At least one million rm of unaccounted costs here.
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mohon la sesape yg ada pergi klia jengah sat toilet yg baru reno ni pastu tepek komen kt sini |
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bodohnya kau ni
Bash I will..
1. Up down left right. All pipes run in all directions, can easily touch 40km in big airport like KLIA.
2. Your pumps aint cheap.
3. Include fittings, wash basins, hose bibs, taps, cubicles, cabinets, design, etc. Yes, 4k per toilet.
4. I dont know how many rooms, so, just estimate per toilet.
5. Plant pokok nowadays is the way toilets are designed. Mother nature first.. in seriousness, need at least some nice tiles and wall fixtures. Also include lighting, electrical works, etc in this costs. I think it is fair.
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ya tahu. ni bukan first time toilet tu upgrade dalam masa 20 tahun tu. hang buat cerita mcm toilet dia depa tak pernah upgrade. ni aku rasa upgrade yg dah kali ke 4
Kt KLIA tu arrival area ada 5 toilet. tutup satu renovate ada 4 lagi bole jalan. apa yg susahnya.
dh tengok ka beza toilet baru ngan toilet lama. kalau elok dari yg lama tak dak sapa nak pertikai hak ni buruk. harga mahai tapi buruk tak padan
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Post time 21-6-2017 02:15 PM
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