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[Dunia] Jiran sebelah mati shahid rupanya..patutlah kaki mayat tak merepot.

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Post time 14-8-2017 09:53 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Semua nak jadi ahli syurga.  
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Post time 14-8-2017 10:07 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
cmf_shalom replied at 14-8-2017 09:46 PM
Sebagai seorang kluarga mualaf..ak nak bertanya pd saudara..

Apa pandangan sr tentang hukum m ...

Maaf ya aku bukan ahli ugama or pandai dlm hal2 hukum2 ni..jadi aku tak dpt nak jawap persoalan u sistur..n aku also sistur le..haha
sekadar ucapan RIP bukan nya boleh memesongkan akidah pun..hanya sekadar ucapan di lidah..jadi apa masalahnya.
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Post time 14-8-2017 10:11 PM | Show all posts
ini menunjukkan begitu  bijak atheist mengguna logik


anda tak tahu ke apa itu ' embalming'?


dalam islam ta ada embalming

so kalau tengok bhn kimia embalming tu tak hairanlah kaki mayat tu preserved as in bukan total pun cuma  proses uraian tu dilambatkan

alahai


commonlah

malu ye atheist kat CI ni


logik ape konon ...
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Post time 14-8-2017 10:37 PM | Show all posts
Why do you have to be embalmed?

   Embalming is legally required only in special circumstances, such as: when a body will be transported by plane or train from one state or country to another. when there's a relatively long time -- a week or more -- between the death and the burial or cremation.
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Post time 14-8-2017 10:47 PM | Show all posts
FanTasyCreaTioN replied at 14-8-2017 10:37 PM
Why do you have to be embalmed?

   Embalming is legally required only in special circumstances, s ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embalming in funeral homes

undertaker the whole context can  be read here

Terms for embalmers[edit]
The roles of a funeral director and an embalmer are different. A funeral director arranges for the final disposition of the deceased, and may or may not prepare (including embalming) the deceased for viewing (or other legal requirements). An embalmer is someone who has been trained in the art and science of, and may or may not have any contact with the family, although many people fill both roles. The term mortician is becoming outdated, but may refer to a someone who is a funeral director, an embalmer, or in some cases, both. Embalming training commonly involves formal study in anatomy, thanatology, chemistry, and specific embalming theory (to widely varied levels depending on the region of the world one lives in) combined with practical instruction in a mortuary with a resultant formal qualification granted after the passing of a final practical examination and acceptance into a recognized society of professional embalmers.
Legal requirements over who can practice vary geographically; some regions or countries do not have specific requirements. Additionally, in many places, embalming is not done by trained embalmers, but rather by doctors who, while they have the required anatomical knowledge, are not trained specialists in this field. Today, embalming is common practice in North America and New Zealand while it is somewhat less frequent in Europe. In some countries, permits or licenses are required; in others it is performed only by medical practitioners, and the costs can be relatively high.[12]
In the United States, the title of an embalmer is largely based on the state in which they are licensed. In Virginia and Maryland, a funeral director is someone who is licensed only to make arrangements and handle the business side of the funeral home, while a mortician is licensed to do these things as well as to embalm. As recently as 2015, Virginia has required that funeral directors also perform 25-50 embalmings as well as 25-50 arrangements during their apprenticeships as a requirement for their licensing, culminating in 3000 hours per apprenticeship.
Modern practices[edit]
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Instruments used for embalming



As practiced in the funeral homes of the Western World (notably North America), embalming uses several steps. Modern embalming techniques are not the result of a single practitioner, but rather the accumulation of many decades, even centuries, of research, trial and error, and invention. A standardized version follows below, but variation on techniques is very common.
The deceased is placed on the mortuary table in the supine anatomical position with the head elevated by a head block. The first step in embalming is to check that the individual is in fact deceased (to avoid premature burial), and then verify the identity of the body (normally via wrist or leg tags). At this point, embalmers commonly perform basic tests for signs of death, noting things such as clouded-over corneas, lividity, and rigor mortis, or by simply attempting to palpate a pulse in the carotid or radial artery. In modern times, people awakening on the preparation table is largely the province of horror fiction and urban legend.
Any clothing on the corpse is removed and set aside, and any personal effects such as jewelry are inventoried. A modesty cloth is sometimes placed over the genitalia. The corpse is washed in disinfectant and germicidal solutions. During this process the embalmer bends, flexes, and massages the arms and legs to relieve rigor mortis. The eyes are posed using an eye cap that keeps them shut and in the proper expression. The mouth may be closed via suturing with a needle and ligature, using an adhesive, or by setting a wire into the maxilla and mandible with a needle injector, a specialized device most commonly used in North America and unique to mortuary practice. Care is taken to make the expression look as relaxed and natural as possible, and ideally a recent photograph of the deceased while still living is used as a reference. The process of closing the mouth and eyes, shaving, etc. is collectively known as setting the features.
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Tank containing embalming fluid



The actual embalming process usually involves four parts:
  • Arterial embalming, which involves the injection of embalming chemicals into the blood vessels, usually via the right common carotid artery. Blood and interstitial fluids are displaced by this injection and, along with excess arterial solution, are expelled from the right jugular vein and collectively referred to as drainage. The embalming solution is injected with a centrifugal pump, and the embalmer massages the body to break up circulatory clots as to ensure the proper distribution of the embalming fluid. This process of raising vessels with injection and drainage from a solitary location is known as a single-point injection. In cases of poor circulation of the arterial solution, additional injection points (commonly the axillary, brachial, or femoral arteries, with the ulnar, radial, and tibial vessels if necessary) are used. The corresponding veins are commonly also raised and utilized for drainage. Cases where more than one vessel is raised are referred to as multiple-point injection, with a reference to the number of vessels raised (i.e. a six-point injection or six-pointer). As a general rule, the more points needing to be raised, the greater the difficulty of the case. An injection utilizing both the left and right carotids is specifically referred to as a restricted cervical injection (RCI), while draining from a different site from injection (i.e. injecting arterial fluid into the right common carotid artery and draining from the right femoral vein) is referred to as a split (or sometimes cut) injection.

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Post time 14-8-2017 10:49 PM | Show all posts
TT .. dah tersilap rasa nya

bukan kaki mayat tak mereput
ni kes kaki mayat lain dari kubur sebelah
penampakan kaki mayat lain yang dah mereput pun
takde embalmed nyer

A GRIEVING family were left traumatised while burying their grandfather after discovering a decaying foot protruding into his grave from the neighbouring plot.
Nota kaki : setakat tangguh 2-3 hari tak perlu pun embalming .. atau bukan d bawa guna flight ..
tempah ja keranda petiais dah cukup







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Post time 14-8-2017 10:50 PM | Show all posts
mbhcsf replied at 14-8-2017 10:47 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embalming in funeral homes

undertaker the whole context can  be r ...
dah post baru dapat notification

https://mforum.cari.com.my/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1054723&page=5#pid66034996
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Post time 14-8-2017 10:54 PM | Show all posts
FanTasyCreaTioN replied at 14-8-2017 10:49 PM
TT .. dah tersilap rasa nya

bukan kaki mayat tak mereput

tapi tajuk dia  ' Jiran' sebelah mati ' syahid ( which is inappropriate )

kalau dia silap - dia tak letak jiran kan - did TT know yg kaki tu kepuanyaan  mayat lain  or tak , sebab perkataan Jiran kat tajuk tu so kalau dia tak tahu , tentunya  perkataan ' jiran' dan ' syahid ' tak wujud kot , kan?

kalau embalming tu

kat funeral home kat ade service embalming

so kalau mayat tu decayed - dia slow kan process tu

macam specimen lab - bukan dia totally prevent decaying tapi dia lambatkan..sebab tu decaying jugak.  setahu sayalah.


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Post time 14-8-2017 10:57 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
pyropura replied at 14-8-2017 09:44 PM
Eleleleh...tak suka ustaz kunun, tapi bila aku kritik setad2 tu, ko tudoh aku kapir lah, eatis l ...

Shoh shoh babi kurap..
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Post time 14-8-2017 11:01 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Madel replied at 14-8-2017 09:37 PM
Family lain ada yg Kristian..derang pun sama mcm aku n family.. join sembahyang sesama.tapi tak se ...

Mak ko pakai tak kain guni tuu
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Post time 14-8-2017 11:02 PM | Show all posts
Edited by FanTasyCreaTioN at 14-8-2017 11:05 PM
mbhcsf replied at 14-8-2017 10:54 PM
tapi tajuk dia  ' Jiran' sebelah mati ' syahid ( which is inappropriate )

kalau dia silap - di ...

Sebab tu FC jarang nak post atau mengomen berdasar kan tajuk sahaja
selalu tengok dulu kat web media lain nya

Tajuk sebenar dari kebanyakan media
Decaying foot found in Cleveland Butler’s grave at the Mount Holiness Memorial Park in New Jersey
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/wtf/decaying-foot-found-in-cleveland-butlers-grave-at-the-mount-holiness-memorial-park-in-new-jersey/news-story/a373edcb178bb5ae2500e90845655faf

Setahu FC yang ada sedara mara sebelah ayah yang bukan Islam .. selalu nya melambatkan pereputan sekadar menyewa keranda petiais. Dengan keranda tu tahap bawah sejuk beku .. mayat boleh bertahan 2-4 hari atau lebih selagi tak d matikan petiais tu.

Pengalaman dan pengamatan sendiri. Tak perlu d awetkan.

Dan juga FC pernah ada bersembang dengan seorang pegawai kesihatan dulu2.. kata nya sekira nya mayat tu nak "terbang" guna flight .. baru d mestikan kena awet.
Tentang budaya lain sekadar suka2 nak awet mengawet tu .. maaf tak tau.

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Post time 14-8-2017 11:05 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
pyropura replied at 14-8-2017 09:46 PM
Ape lar tongong punya soklan, ko ingat depa bungkus macam acik kepam bungkus kuih ka boleh tertu ...

Pi raaa.  Pi jaga tokong hindu tuu.. pi tolong bakar mayat kat tokong tuu
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Post time 14-8-2017 11:32 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Edited by pyropura at 14-8-2017 11:35 PM
Buritan replied at 14-8-2017 10:57 PM
Shoh shoh babi kurap..


... ko dah kantoi yer, tak terjawap apa dah... tongong
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Post time 14-8-2017 11:37 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Buritan replied at 14-8-2017 07:06 AM
Tt bodo.. bukak tred mesti nak provoke isle.. Tt jgn riso moderator akan buat bodo shj.. bangsa nomb ...


Sikit2 provok sikit2 provok, tu je lah yg kau mampu sebut
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Post time 14-8-2017 11:38 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Buritan replied at 14-8-2017 11:01 PM
Mak ko pakai tak kain guni tuu

Tak..
Selama 5 hari tu kami semua pakai tshirt putih, seluar cerut itam & stokin putih..dan sepotong kain 4segi di pin kat belah kanan lengan baju..(kain 4segi ni kena buka n letak kat atas keranda nenek utk sibakar sekali)
Itu je.
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Post time 15-8-2017 12:01 AM | Show all posts
mbhcsf replied at 14-8-2017 10:54 PM
tapi tajuk dia  ' Jiran' sebelah mati ' syahid ( which is inappropriate )

kalau dia silap - di ...

siap buat analisa samada betul ka tak jiran tu syahid..

embalming kehulu embalming kehilir

ko ni memang lobainita tegar..

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Post time 15-8-2017 12:24 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
M5 replied at 15-8-2017 12:01 AM
siap buat analisa samada betul ka tak jiran tu syahid..

embalming kehulu embalming keh ...

Hahaha.... denial kan
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Post time 15-8-2017 12:26 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Edited by pyropura at 15-8-2017 12:29 AM
Buritan replied at 14-8-2017 11:05 PM
Pi raaa.  Pi jaga tokong hindu tuu.. pi tolong bakar mayat kat tokong tuu


Ko pun dah jadi keling/etis kan, sebab ko dah ngaku benci ustad kat post 95# ..
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Post time 15-8-2017 12:38 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
mbhcsf replied at 14-8-2017 10:11 PM
ini menunjukkan begitu  bijak atheist mengguna logik



For embalming to work, kena ada pada suhu tertentu aje, once dah contact dengan tanah, akan hancur macam mayat2 lain juga ...
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Post time 15-8-2017 01:47 AM | Show all posts
Innalillah untuk heshe
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