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sam loye penipu
Ayat Rejm dah kena abrogate selepas ia diwahyukan (for that matter ayat Rejm ada dlm Torah).
hahaha... still aku tak tahan gelak.siap tulis kot english tu"for that matter ayat Rejm ada dlm Torah)"
dia tolong berhujah bagi pihak aku lak..bwahahah..
tu pun kalau dia paham maksud abrogation or any english lah..
eerrr..sam..ade ke surah/hukum diabrogate dan diganti ngan hukum yang...
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SAMA!bwahahahaha |
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Ha ha ... ini terlampau lawak dari lobai kaki mabuk todi lkick2113
Boleh cakap pulak macam ini :
Masalah dengan lobai samdol ni, dia tanya balik kita, Kat mana ayat Kata Maria lagi cantik dari sirin? Di sokong Oleh sidekick nya misharamu ka apa namanya tu 1400 tahun dulu mana org nak recall balik, yang ada bukti Hadis tu je yg tak nyatakan Maria lagi cantik dari sirin. Memang insulting my intelligence la Maideen
- 'Maria lebih cantik dari Sirin'
Mana bukti & rujukkan ko?
TQ lah skg ko mengaku (bukan hadith tu tapi catatan sejarah oleh Tabari)
yang ada bukti Hadis tu je yg tak nyatakan Maria lagi cantik dari sirin
Ha ha ha ha , actually geng muslim tak insult intelligence ko pasal you've got none to begin with
Kami hanya kesian yg ada jugak org yg kureng cerdik macam ko
Kah kah kah ..... kononnya lobai mabuk todi lkick2113 nak konar .... terbaring terus ... kantoikan diri sendiri
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katowjo
ok..ni 16:101
When they saw that some rulings had been changed by being abrogated, they said to the Messenger of Allah :
You are but a forger) meaning one who tells lies. But Allah is the Lord Who does whatever He wills, and rules as He wants.
Ok, seriously saya tak faham: "When they saw that some rulings had been changed by being abrogated, they said to the Messenger of Allah" <-- dari mana katowjo petik bahagian ni? Apa yg ada dalam Al-Quran ialah:
https://quran.com/16/101
Al-Quran 16:101 (Sahih International)
And when We substitute a verse in place of a verse - and Allah is most knowing of what He sends down - they say, "You, [O Muhammad], are but an inventor [of lies]." But most of them do not know.
Who are they? Reference apa yg katowjo guna?
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katowjo
yang diabrogate kan terang tu surah kitab terdahulu..abrogate dah ganti baru=quran..dimana takde dah hukum rejam..
katowjo
depa tak oaham english tapi duk copy paste english merata..
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Edited by sam1528 at 14-12-2017 01:10 PM
Ha ha ... lobai king of tunggeng katowjo bila rasa2 diri kantoi mula lah try to laugh his way out
Kena tepek apa ko cakap :
yeehaaaww...tapi lam quran takde kan kan kan...
lobai2 sekelian paham tak maksub abrogation tu
dia tepek..dia tulis..dia hujah..dia kantoi..bwahahahh
yang diabrogate kan terang tu surah kitab terdahulu..abrogate dah ganti baru=quran..dimana takde dah hukum rejam..
yang ko pi caya mullah padang paser bawak buku hadis hukum rejam ayat lam quran dimakan kambeng tu buat hapeeerrr????. ....
gila siot lobai..dia kantoikan dia sendiri..tapi butulla cam @Maideen. n @lkick2113 kata...depa tak oaham english tapi duk copy paste english merata..
Ha ha ha ha ... memang tak ada ayat Rejm dlm Quran pasal dah kena abrogate ... betul tak ... betul tak ... betul tak
Yg dah kantoi makan diri ttg maksud abrogation hanya ko aje bila ko bawak rujukkan dictionary
Isu ttg abrogation yg kita dok cakap skg ada 2 :
- ayat Rejm
- stages dlm pengharaman alcohol
Quran2:106 dgn jelas catat abrogation & disokong oleh tafseer Ibn Kathir (tafseer yg diiktiraf tau)
Argumen ko diciplak dari website geng 'Quranist' pasal ko pon geng 'quranist'. Bila tak mampu jawab ttg 'abrogation , mula lah alih topik ; bebel ttg
- kitab lama lah
- org cakap Nabi Muhammad(saw) macam ni & itu lah
Errr tambi , isu ttg abrogation ko masih tak jawab .... LOL
Macamana ko nak jawab pasal rujukkan ko adalah tafseer lobai king of tunggeng katowjo yg tak diiktiraf & ko pon kureng fasih bahasa inggeris
Dah kata , lebih baik ko rujuk kitab dlm bahasa jawa & kureng kan yam seng todi
Kah kah kah ... last2 dah tak mampu konar , lobai king of tunggeng katowjo terpaksa setuju dgn pendirian geng muslim ... as usual
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Ha ha ... kata dah lobai king of tunggeng katowjo bila rasa2 diri kantoi mula lah try to laugh his way out
Whaaaat! Ko tak tau ada hukum Rejm dalam Torah? Selama ni ko tak tau apa yg ko cakap lah
Ha ha ha ha ... kan dah jelas dlm tafseer Ibn Kathir , Quran2:106
Also As-Suddi said that,
﴿مَا نَنسَخْ مِنْ ءَايَةٍ﴾
(Whatever a verse (revelation) do Nansakh) means, "We erase it.'' Further, Ibn Abi Hatim said that it means, "Erase and raise it, such as erasing the following wordings (from the Qur'an), `The married adulterer and the married adulteress: stone them to death,' and, `If the son of Adam had two valleys of gold, he would seek a third.'''
Kesian .... dah kantoi bila bawak rujukkan dictionary ttg 'abrogation' tapi masih delusional dgn komen ini :
tu pun kalau dia paham maksud abrogation or any english lah..
Agak2 sama tak tahap malu tu bila ko mati2 klaim 'hadith bukhari' ttg kambing makan cebisan ayat Rejm
Kah kah kah ... lobai king of tunggeng katowjo dah malu besar .... trying to put up a brave face ... kesian lah dia ... tengok muka sikit .. hmm ... macam nak menangis aje
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lobai masih percaya ngan tafseer mullah padang paser tentang kehebatan hadis..
konon tuhan abrogate surah qurah ganti lam hadis.
[Quran 5:48] Then we revealed to you this scripture, truthfully, confirming previous scriptures, and superseding them.
superseding tu k lobai...ganti ngan quran..semua ayat2 ko tu tentang kitab lama diganti baru..=quran..bukan quran diganti hadis..bwahahah...
ni ayat glemer ko..
SAHIH INTERNATIONAL
And when We substitute a verse in place of a verse - and Allah is most knowing of what He sends down - they say, "You, [O Muhammad], are but an inventor [of lies]." But most of them do not know.
When we substitute one revelation in place of another, and God is fully aware of what He reveals, they say, "You made this up!" Indeed, most of them do not know.
terang lagi bersuluh ayat tu merujuk ahli kitab lama tuduh nabi cipta quran bukan tuhan kerna hukum kitab lama TAKDE dalam quran..yakni di abrogate..contoh-hukum REJAM..
ko n mashi je mati matian pakai ayat ni konar kata tuhan abrogate hukum dalam quran pastu ganti lam hadis..bwahahahah
in that case..buat ape abrogate in the 1st place kan kan kan...tuhan dah buang tebiat ke?
lain kali..kalu tak paham english..jangan paste english k lobai..pakai je urdu |
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SAHIH INTERNATIONAL
And when We substitute a verse in place of a verse - and Allah is most knowing of what He sends down - they say, "You, [O Muhammad], are but an inventor [of lies]." But most of them do not know.
key word..
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and Allah is most knowing of what He sends down
tapi lobai caya tuhan abrogate hukum rejam lam quran ganti ngan hukum rejam dalam hadis..manakala lam quran hilang..prrfthhhh...tuhan tak tahu ape dia turunkan?lu paham ke english ni?
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they say, "You, [O Muhammad], are but an inventor [of lies].
they say tu merujuk sape?ko suka ambik sepoton ayat nak benerkan hujah surah rejam dimakan kambeng hadis tolol tu..
terang benar they merujuk ahli kitab terdahulu..bila tuhan abrogate tular hukum ayang ade lam kitab lama kepada yang baru..ok..
bukan cam sam duk caya tu
tuhan tukar wahyu quran (abrogate) kepada yang baru..tapi takde pun dalam quran(rejam)..tapi diganti lam hadis..
hukum pulka..hukum yang sama..
ape kegila abrogate tukar hukum ganti hukum sama..
deii..kata tuhan kata quran tu perfect?kalau dah hukum sama tapi takde(hilang)..muncul lam hadis..automatik tak semporna la quran tu..
ni lobai kata(pahaman) dia..bukan aku kata k.. |
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bangcak replied at 14-12-2017 10:39 AM
soalan simple je.
"u berasal dari berok ke manusia?"
Lobai mana yang ajar you bahawa Teori Evolusi Darwin mengatakan manusia berasal dari beruk bangcak?
Adakah lobai yang sama yang ajar you pasal Hang Tuah itu? |
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sam1528 replied at 14-12-2017 12:39 PM
Ha ha ... ini terlampau lawak dari lobai kaki mabuk todi lkick2113
Boleh cakap pulak macam ini ...
Dei lobai.... Ayat aku merujuk pada posting sidekick ko di misharamu tu di post #317... |
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katowjo
ko n mashi je mati matian pakai ayat ni konar kata tuhan abrogate hukum dalam quran pastu ganti lam hadis..bwahahahah
in that case..buat ape abrogate in the 1st place kan kan kan...tuhan dah buang tebiat ke?
katowjo
terang lagi bersuluh ayat tu merujuk ahli kitab lama tuduh nabi cipta quran bukan tuhan kerna hukum kitab lama TAKDE dalam quran..yakni di abrogate..contoh-hukum REJAM..
If you are questioning tafsir Ibn Kathir, why should we accept your tafsir then?
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Ha ha ... berpusing pusing lobai king of tunggeng katowjo konar pasal dah kantoi ttg abrogation
Isu yg diperkata skg ada 2
(1) ayat Rejm yg dah kena abrogate
(2) konsep abrogation , sebagai contoh stages pengharaman alcohol - ayat & hukumnya
Yg ko dok berpusing lari ke
- kitab lama diganti baru lah
- org kapiak zaman tersebut tuduh Nabi Muhammad(saw) macam ni & itu lah
buat apa?
Ko tak mau fokus pada isu sebenar pasal ko dah kantoi. Rujukkan dictionary yg ko bawak pon dah kantoikan ko
Dlm isu Quran2:106 spt dipetik dlm tafseer Ibn Kathir , diberi pon maksud 'Naskh' (atau abrogation). Contoh pon diberi iaitu ayat Rejm. Ni bukan 'tafseer lobai king of tunggeng katowjo al bohongi' yg tak diiktiraf tu tau.
Macamana ko pusing pon , the fact of it all ... ayat Rejm dah kena abrogate
Yg jadik interesting pada ayat 107 , catatan Ibn Kathir adalah spt berikut :
He tests His servants and their obedience to His Messengers by the Naskh. He commands a matter containing a benefit which He knows of, and then He out of His wisdom, prohibits it. Hence, perfect obedience is realized by adhering to His commands, following His Messengers, believing in what ever they convey, implementing their commands and avoiding what they prohibit.
The statements of Allah here contain tremendous benefit, prove that the Jews are disbelievers and refute their claim that Naskh does not occur, may Allah curse the Jews. In ignorance and arrogance they claimed that the sound mind stipulates that Naskh does not occur. Some of them falsely claimed that there are divine texts that dismiss the possibility that Naskh occurred.
Imam Abu Ja`far bin Jarir said, "The Ayah means, `Do you not know, O Muhammad, that I alone own the heavens and the earth and that I decide whatever I will in them I forbid whatever I will, change and repeal whatever I will of My previous rulings, whenever I will. I also uphold whatever I will.''
Ye lah , ko yg mati2 klaim : Allah buat silap lah , Allah nyanyuk lah , Allah tak ada otoriti kat bumi lah
Kalo ko muslim ... ha ha ... too bad for you lah
Tapi kalo ikut penulisan & argumen yg ko copy paste , ko ni .... hmmmm ... seorang 'quaranist' ... kira2 sama lah tu
Tu pasal sampai skg ko tak mampu bagi kat mana ritual solat dlm Quran ... tak boleh pakai hadith tau , ha ha ha ha
Kah kah kah .... berpusing macamana pon lobai king of tunggeng katowjo dah kena ... last2 Quran dah tempelak ko ... macamana skg tambi ...
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Ha ha .. lobai kaki mabuk todi lkick2113 dah kena sebiji mula lah cari jalan nak lari
Tak payah lah nak cuba temberang kononnya merujuk posting bro mashimaru
Beliau ada a good point :
Tak rasa kelakar ke bila ada orang yg hidup selepas ~1400 tahun cakap Maria lebih cantik dari Sirin? Padahal rujukan yg ada takde pun kata sedemikian. Boleh lkick2113 komen?
Hanya kaki kencing aje buat klaim tanpa rujukkan mau pon bukti ... betul tak?
Kah kah kah ... lobai kaki mabuk todi lkick2113 dah jadik kaki kencing pasal bercampur dgn kaki kencing - @Maideen. , @katowjo
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Edited by Dwdrum at 14-12-2017 03:51 AM
Dahsyat geng lobais ..... tuhan pun kena veto 
Nanti sambung tengah bercuti @sam1528 .....
Tuhan cipta manusia jadi berkilat kalau ikut hujah gila sam atau keras seperti periuk tanah....manusia jadi separuh siap ...maklunlah buatan padang paser
Ada masa untuk u google sam cara untuk belajar kimia gila sam ......
Ingat tau kencing unta untuk untuk some tetapi sunnah tau ... lol....
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Ha ha ... lobainita minah sewel y bercelaru lagi pemikiran
Tengok aje apa ko tulis , lompat dari satu isu ke isu yg lain dgn sekelip mata aje
Macamana tak kata yg ko ni ada personal problem
Tak apa ... kemungkinan pergi bercuti tu dapatlah redakan diri ko tu yg dah berceramuk
Kah kah kah .. kesian lobainita minah sewel ... masih sakit hati
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Edited by sam1528 at 14-12-2017 11:02 PM
Ha ha... alah kesiannya tengok l̶o̶y̶a̶r̶ ̶k̶a̶r̶a̶t̶ oops legal assistant lobai @Maideen.
Dok menangis sama geng sendiri. Dlm keadaan teramat sedih dok berbisik
Level English dan intelligence penipu bersiri itu memang amat rendah Lkick tapi dia bercita cita menjadi peguam....Prrrrrrrrrrrrrpffftght
Tukang sorak dia Marumaru tu lagi rendah level intelligencenya dan tak perlu dilayan. Peon kat ofis Maideen " No need to dignify his postings with a response, pon" sebab bodoh sangat.
Wallahualam.
Translation : kita dah kantoi malu pasal kureng fasih bahasa inggeris & tak ada rujukkan ttg klaim
- 'Mariyah was beautiful' = 'Maria lebih cantik dari Sirin'
Baik tak usah cakap apa2 lagi takut dimalukan dgn lebih teruk
Kah kah kah ... kesian lobai & lobainita ateis & pro ateis ni ... dok menangis sama sendiri kat thread ni , alah kesiannya .. kat sini dah kantoi , jadik korang berkampung kat thread tersebut mengadu nasib sama sendiri ... its ok .. aku tak kacau korang ...janji ... |
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Edited by sam1528 at 14-12-2017 11:28 PM
Ha ha .. tengok tu ... kesian kat lobai king of tunggeng katowjo yg hanya mampu mengadu nasib kat l̶o̶y̶a̶r̶ ̶k̶a̶r̶a̶t̶ oops legal assistant lobai @Maideen.
Nak jawab pon dah terketak ketak pasal takut diperbodohkan lagi
Apa tak nya ... sapa lah nak percaya kat 'tafseer lobai king of tunggeng katowjo al bohongi' .... betul tak
baca aje
beratus ayat tu
baca aje
Hmmm .. lets see .. setakat ini
- org dok cakap pasal konsep abrogation , ko pasal dah malu dok bebel ttg
(a) kitab lama diganti baru lah
(b) org kapiak zaman tersebut tuduh Nabi Muhammad(saw) macam ni & itu lah
- bawak pulak rujukkan dictionary utk 'abrogation' ... kena lagi , TQ aje lah pasal terpaksa setuju dgn pendirian geng muslim
- sampai skg tak jumpa lagi 'hadith bukhari' ttg kambing makan cebisan ayat Quran
- org dok cakap pasal abrogation ayat Quran & hukumnya tapi ko pulak dok bebel ttg 'surah' (ie. chapter) yg kena abrogate .... aiyoyo
- kureng fasih bahas inggeris , contoh : 'mariyah was beautiful' = 'maria lebih cantik dari sirin'
Ha ha ha ha ha ....ada hati pulak tu cakap pasal gali lubang & terjun sendiri .... this is soooo funny
Kah kah kah ... I must have 'rattle your cage' soooo badly sampai ko sanggup berkampung dgn geng kaki kencing kat thread ini ... tersebut adalah perkampungan meluahkan isi hati , menangis ttg apa aku dah buat kat korang ... ye lah dok pujuk memujuk antara satu sama lain .... kesian nya .. its ok .. aku janji tak akan kacau korang
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