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SAMDOL TELAH DIBOGELKAN DI THREAD “Adakah ini sejarah asal islam" & SA
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Alahai ... kesian lobai mat slow v2
Dah lah hancur segala argumen ko yg kononnya Islam bermula dari Petra
Bila kantoi dimalukan dgn terhina sekali ... cepat2 nak ubah topik Nabi Muhammad(saw) naik ke langit nak jumpa Jibreel
LOL ... tau lah ko dah kantoi dimalukan dgn terhina sekali
Tak payah lah merepek dgn cubaan ko nak ubah topik ... malu tau
Oops ... ko mana tau malu ... muka tebal kan kan kan
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Edited by FOTHERMUCKER2 at 25-11-2018 09:07 AM
Lobai samdol faham ka apa yang dia bagi tau?
Fourth, revisionists make two claims about the archeological record. The first relates to the fact that we have no evidence that Mecca was inhabited in the seventh century.
Dah terang dalam artikal dibawah ni ada bagi tau kesan peninggalan sejarah terawal islam di petra seawal 7th AD lagi. Islam bermula pun pada 7th AD.
Sesatu yang sangat mustahil satu peninggalan sejarah artifact pun tiada dari Mecca arab saudi! Nampak sangat lobai samdol ni bodoh!
Dimana mana tempat pun dah berapa kali dibangungkan sesatu kawasan tu jika manusia pernah tinggal disitu ianya tetap akan menjumpai artifact baru, tengok sahaja negara negara di eropah ni Salah satunya seperti di London Paris mereka tetap akan menjumpai artifact baru walaupun kawasan tu dah berapa kali di banggunan kan. Sejarah tidak boleh menipu kerana ada kesan kehidupan. Cuma orang bodoh sahaja senang tertipu seperti lobai estate!
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Edited by sam1528 at 25-11-2018 11:27 AM
Ha ha ha ha ... he he he he ... lobai mat slow v2 yg lagi sekali buktikan diri amat2 kureng cerdik & amat2 kureng fasih english
Bila ko dipanggil 'bodoh sampai ke tulang' ko marah
Tengok aje lah argument yg amat2 kureng cerdik dari ko :
Lobai samdol faham ka apa yang dia bagi tau?
Fourth, revisionists make two claims about the archeological record. The first relates to the fact that we have no evidence that Mecca was inhabited in the seventh century.
Dah terang dalam artikal dibawah ni ada bagi tau kesan peninggalan sejarah terawal islam di petra seawal 7th AD lagi. Islam bermula pun pada 7th AD.
Sesatu yang sangat mustahil satu peninggalan sejarah artifact pun tiada dari Mecca arab saudi! Nampak sangat lobai samdol ni bodoh!
Dimana mana tempat pun dah berapa kali dibangungkan sesatu kawasan tu jika manusia pernah tinggal disitu ianya tetap akan menjumpai artifact baru, tengok sahaja negara negara di eropah ni Salah satunya seperti di London Paris mereka tetap akan menjumpai artifact baru walaupun kawasan tu dah berapa kali di banggunan kan. Sejarah tidak boleh menipu kerana ada kesan kehidupan. Cuma orang bodoh sahaja senang tertipu seperti lobai estate!
Ni bukti sah yg ko ni amat2 kureng fasih english :
Lobai samdol faham ka apa yang dia bagi tau?
Fourth, revisionists make two claims about the archeological record. The first relates to the fact that we have no evidence that Mecca was inhabited in the seventh century.
Dah terang dalam artikal dibawah ni ada bagi tau kesan peninggalan sejarah terawal islam di petra seawal 7th AD lagi. Islam bermula pun pada 7th AD.
LOL , pada pahaman ko yg amat2 kureng fasih english , bermakna Mekkah was uninhabited lah pasal '... two claims about the archeological record...'
Err tambi , 2 klaim tersebut dibuat oleh sapa?
- geng revisionist macam ko ; atau
- geng kat Zwemer Centre
Tu dia ... ko mati2 pikir klaim tersebut dibuat oleh geng Zwemer Centre kan ... macamana ko boleh bangang sgt?
Konfom lagi sekali yg ko ni amat2 kureng fasih english ... tu pasal ko dok konfius & blur semacam
Ho ho ho ho ... kalo ada inscription kononnya in regular Kufic & ada catat Allah ...
Pada diri ko yg amat2 kureng cerdik , ko mati2 klaim Islam bermula kat Petra lah
Lagi sekali ko buat konklusi yg amat2 bangang ...
Aiyoyo tambi ... evidence tersebut sekadar catat that muslims were there aje , nothing more
Penjelasan ni dah diberi lebih dari 6 kali tapi ko masih bangang lagi ... nak kata apa ... ko kan lobai mat slow v2
Ingat ye ... according to Zwemer Centre : Mekkah 7 Petra 0
Kah kah kah ... lobai mat slow v2 masih lagi 'bangang sampai ke tulang' walaupon dah bagi penjelasan lebih dari 6 kali
Amat2 kureng fasih english lah tu ... buat malu aje mati2 klaim duduk kat UK
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Edited by sam1528 at 25-11-2018 06:15 PM
Oh yeah ... lobai mat slow v2 ... aku asyik lupa aje nak tanya ko
Ko balik2 & kehulu kehilir dok bagi rujukkan ini sambil merapu yg Islam bermula kat Petra
Ko boleh tunjuk tak kat mana dlm Peer Reviewed Publication tersebut yg konfom Islam bermula kat Petra?
Kalo kita baca conclusion paper tersebut :
The inscriptions are important from a palaeographical point of view , shedding light on the development of the Arabic script during this early period in this part of the Islamic world. Concerning their content,they mostly seek forgiveness for persons who areotherwise unknown in Arabic historical sources.
Kalo ikut conclusion paper tersebut , inscription tersebut adalah penting dari palaeographical standpoint
It gives us insight in the development of the Arabic Script
For your knowledge : palaeography is a study of ancient & historical handwritings
Oops ... ikut pahaman ko yg amat2 kureng fasih english : palaeography = islam bermula kat Petra
Ke hulu ke hilir lah ko jaja Peer Review Publication ttg Palaeograpgy of the Arabic Script tapi dgn pahaman songsang 'palaeography = islam bermula kat Petra'
Kah kah kah ... lobai mat slow v2 amat2 kureng fasih english ...
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Edited by FOTHERMUCKER2 at 25-11-2018 09:04 PM
Dah bermacam macam tipu daya fitnah putarbelit lobai estate kekononya nak tunjuk cerdik tetapi sampai sekaran tak boleh bagi bukti!
LOBAI ESTATE CAKAP BANYAK KEKONONYA NAK TUNJUK CERDIK TETAPI KAKAU DAH BODOH TETAP KELIHATAN BODOH ..SAMPAI SEKARANG TAK BOLEH BAGI BUKTI IDOLS SEMBAHAN PEGAN DI MECCA AS DAN ISLAM BERMULAH DI MECCA AS.
Bukti mana bukti? Satu pun lobai estate tak boleh bagi ka?
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Edited by sam1528 at 26-11-2018 12:49 AM
Ha ha ha ha ... lobai mat slow v2 tak berani jawab ... buat tak nampak aje ... dah malu lah tu
Terbukti lagi yg ko ni amat2 kureng fasih english
Ko tengok inscription aje ko mati2 klaim Islam bermula kat Petra
Macamana ko dgn amat2 kureng fasih english boleh paham : palaeography = islam bermula kat Petra ???
Kehulu kehilir dok bagi rujukkan ini sambil merapu yg Islam bermula kat Petra
Boleh tunjuk kat aku kat mana dlm rujukkan ko yg catat Islam bermula kat Petra?
Buat tak nampak aje ... kiamat 2 kali pon ko tak akan jawab ... ko kantoi lagi dimalukan dgn terhina sekali
Kalo kita baca conclusion paper tersebut :
The inscriptions are important from a palaeographical point of view , shedding light on the development of the Arabic script during this early period in this part of the Islamic world. Concerning their content,they mostly seek forgiveness for persons who areotherwise unknown in Arabic historical sources.
Kalo ikut conclusion paper tersebut , inscription tersebut adalah penting dari palaeographical standpoint
It gives us insight in the development of the Arabic Script
For your knowledge : palaeography is a study of ancient & historical handwritings
Oops ... ikut pahaman ko yg amat2 kureng fasih english : palaeography = islam bermula kat Petra
Kah kah kah ... lobai mat slow v2 sekali lagi kantoi dimalukan dgn terhina sekali
Oops ... ko kan muka tebal ... tak tau malu ... kan kan kan
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Edited by sam1528 at 26-11-2018 01:07 AM
Alahai kesian nya lobai mat slow v2 ... berulang kali tanya soalan yg telah dijawab
Ko tak mampu cabar jawapan aku tapi nak tutup malu ko tanya soalan yg sama
Laaa .... lagi sekali ko buktikan yg ko ni amat2 kureng cerdik & amat2 kureng fasih english
Ada ke tanya berulang kali isu yg telah dijawab :
Dah bermacam macam tipu daya fitnah putarbelit lobai estate kekononya nak tunjuk cerdik tetapi sampai sekaran tak boleh bagi bukti!
LOBAI ESTATE CAKAP BANYAK KEKONONYA NAK TUNJUK CERDIK TETAPI KAKAU DAH BODOH TETAP KELIHATAN BODOH ..SAMPAI SEKARANG TAK BOLEH BAGI BUKTI IDOLS SEMBAHAN PEGAN DI MECCA AS DAN ISLAM BERMULAH DI MECCA AS.
Bukti mana bukti? Satu pun lobai estate tak boleh bagi ka?
Aiseyman ... aku tau lah ko ni amat2 kureng fasih english
Dah lebih 6 kali aku bagi rujukkan aku
He he he he ... ikut pahaman songsang ko Islam bermula kat Petra & bukan Mekkah? Senang aje jawapan Zwemer Centre :
By my reckoning, then, the score is Mecca 7, Petra 0. Muslims do not mistakenly face the wrong direction when they pray. All the available evidence points to Mecca as Islam’s true birthplace.
Lobai mat slow v2 dah kena smash 7 - 0 ... tak melawan langsung
Geng kristian pulak tu yg kantoi malukan ko dgn terhina sekali
Oh yeah ... depa tu ada pelajaran , paling kureng ada Post Graduate Degree
Ko ada apa? Diploma pon tak ada.
Yg ko dok harap adalah bagi tau org lain yg ko duduk kat UK
Duduk kat UK tapi pelajaran tak ada buat apa ... patut pon ko lari dari Malaysia
Ko tak mampu bersiang kat sini ... ye lah amat2 kureng cerdik , nak kata apa
You are not living off unemployment benefits ... are you? Malu tau ... oops ko mana tau malu
Patut pon ko dok ulang isu yg ko kantoi dimalukan dgn terhina sekali ... ko tak baca & tak paham apa ko baca
Maklum lah ... penulisan tersebut dlm english ... ko pulak amat2 kureng fasih english
Malulah tambi
Kah kah kah ... lobai mat slow v2 hanya berpusing in circles kejar backside sendiri ... nak kata apa , ko amat2 kureng fasih english
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Edited by FOTHERMUCKER2 at 26-11-2018 06:14 AM
Lobai samdol mulut besar otak kecil saiz otak burung, bukti mana bukti? |
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Edited by sam1528 at 26-11-2018 11:04 AM
Ooopppsss ... lobai mat slow v2 dah terdiam pasal 'Islamic Inscription' kat Petra
Awal2 dok mati2 klaim tersebut adalah kononnya bukti Islam bermula kat Petra
Rupa2 nya Peer Reviewed Publication yg ko bagi dok cakap ttg palaeolagraphy of Arabic Script :
Kalo kita baca conclusion paper tersebut :
The inscriptions are important from a palaeographical point of view , shedding light on the development of the Arabic script during this early period in this part of the Islamic world. Concerning their content,they mostly seek forgiveness for persons who areotherwise unknown in Arabic historical sources.
Kalo ikut conclusion dia , inscription tersebut adalah penting dari palaeographical standpoint
It gives us insight in the development of the Arabic Script
Macamana ko boleh paham : palaeography = islam bermula kat Petra ???
Amat2 kureng fasih english lah tu ... malu ooi tambi
Kah kah kah ... aku nak tanya lobai mat slow v2 : are you an under educated moron? Appears so ...
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Edited by sam1528 at 26-11-2018 11:31 AM
Ha ha ha ha ... ada bukti lobai mat slow v2 ... ada bukti ... geng muslim garanti boleh bagi bukti / rujukkan punya
Semua bukti & rujukkan dah diberi kat sini : Jawapan dari Zwemer Centre
Ko aje takut & tak mampu baca
Maklum lah ko amat2 kureng fasih english ... education pon tak kemana
You are at a disadvantage lah tambi ... ko tak paham apa ko baca atau pon ko tak tau membaca dlm english
Ni dari rujukkan aku :
By my reckoning, then, the score is Mecca 7, Petra 0. Muslims do not mistakenly face the wrong direction when they pray. All the available evidence points to Mecca as Islam’s true birthplace.
Oops ... the score is now mekkah 7 - Petra 0
Ada bukti / rujukkan tambi ... ada bukti / rujukkan , tapi ko tak paham pasal ko amat2 kureng fasih english
Kah kah kah ... lobai mat slow v2 tak paham english ... dgn muka tak malu , mati2 pulak tu klaim duduk kat UK
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Lobai estate dah mati akal dah, janji reply untuk nampak cerdik kekononya
Hello lobai estate mana bukti dari Mecca arab saudi? Takan satu pun lobai estate tak boleh bagi?
Tiada bukti bermakna ianya cerita kosong sahaja! 
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Baaaahwahwahwa ... lobai mat slow v2 masih dlm delusion menipu diri sendiri
Bila panggil ko an under educated moron , ko betul2 marah
There is truth to such dgn merepek ko macam ni :
Lobai estate dah mati akal dah, janji reply untuk nampak cerdik kekononya
Hello lobai estate mana bukti dari Mecca arab saudi? Takan satu pun lobai estate tak boleh bagi?
Tiada bukti bermakna ianya cerita kosong sahaja! 
Errr tambi , ko paham ke apa tu bukti & rujukkan? Nampak gaya macam tak paham aje
LOL ... ko ada baca tak rujukkan yg diberi dari Zwemer Centre?
By my reckoning, then, the score is Mecca 7, Petra 0. Muslims do not mistakenly face the wrong direction when they pray. All the available evidence points to Mecca as Islam’s true birthplace.
Oops ... the score is now mekkah 7 - Petra 0
Ko kan amat2 kureng fasih english ... tak baca lah tu
Ko dah habis modal lah tambi , apa bukti / rujukkan org bagi pon ko buat tak nampak aje
Oh lagi satu , yg ko berbiuh buih mulut dok cakap pasal Ptolemy tu apa dia?
Ye lah , isu Ptolemy yg ko cuba bohong dgn manipulasi coordinates dia , overlay dgn the current map with a 2000 yrs differential lepas tu klaim Ptolemy salah
Oh lagi satu , ko kehulu kehilir dok jaja inscription kat Petra adalah bukti Islam mula dari Petra tapi Peer Reviewed Publication yg ko bagi adalah ttg palaeography of the Arabic Script
Pada ko yg amat2 kureng fasih english : palaeography = islam bermula kat Petra
Aiyoyo lobai mat slow v2 , if you have a bit of education ko tak akan jadik macam ni , in delusion menipu diri sendiri ... kesian - kesian
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Hahaha lobai samdol satu bukti pun tak boleh bagi, aiiii thambi bukti mana bukti dari kau? Yilek eh? Lobai estate sahaja yang percaya dengan sejarah yang tiada bukti nyata, sebab itu lobai estate bodoh.
Kiblat pertama islam adalah arah ke Petra dan juga kesan peninggalan sejarah juga ada di Petra.
Baca commentary dalam bulatan merah tu lobai samdol ada bagi tau the oldest dated Islamic inscription dan islamic pottery discovered in petra. Iatu seawal 7CAD tu lobai samdol. Lobai samdol ni terlalu bodoh lah.
LANSUNG TIADA SEBUT TENTANG MECCA ARAB SAUDI. SAMDOL SUDAH DIBOGELKAN LAGI. APA YANG LOBAI ESTATE MAMPU BUAT HANYALAH SEPERTI SEOKOR ANJING MENGEJAR EKORNYA SAHAJA.
Pre-Islamic Arabia, To The 7th Century [size=0.8em]CE
Prehistory and archaeologyAt one time Arabia as a whole may have had greater rainfall and richer vegetation than it does today, as shown by the large dried-up watercourses intersecting the peninsula. But climatic conditions seem to have changed little in the past five millennia; human life—settled or nomad—has been a struggle to cope with the harsh realities of this vast subcontinent. Stone Age settlements of fishermen and shellfish eaters going back to the 3rd millennium BCE have been found on the northeast coast and in the islands of Faylakah and Bahrain. Surface scatters of flint implements are seen in many places in the peninsula, as are undatable but probably ancient rock drawings for which affinities have been thought to exist with rock drawings in the Sahara. Southern Arabia (comprising Yemen and Oman) lies within the climatic zone of the Indian Ocean monsoons, which yield enough rainfall to make it potentially the most fertile part of Arabia. In Yemen, sophisticated irrigation techniques go very far back indeed; soundings in the silt deposits around the great dam of Maʾrib attest intensive agricultural exploitation there from at least 2000 BCE. The racial affinities of the Arabian populations are not traceable. A theory by which Arabia was considered the birthplace and homeland of the nations of Semitic culture is not now regarded as tenable. Arabian peoples have been held to be related to a variety of groups, with homelands in almost all directions outside Arabia: the view that sought to visualize all Arabians as a single race has never been valid. The oldest evidence indicates the presence of Africans in the Red Sea coastal plain, Iranians in the southeastern tip of the peninsula, and peoples of Aramaean stock in the north. The racial affinities of the ancient Yemeni peoples remain unsolved; the marked similarity of their culture to the Semitic cultures that arose in the Fertile Crescentto the north of the peninsula can be attributed to cultural spread rather than to immigration. Apart from pursuing the few prehistoric evidences, archaeological research centres mainly on sites of the historic period, which is also attested by written records beginning in the first half of the 1st millennium BCE. Some sites in the northern Hejaz, such as Dedān (now Al-ʿUlā), Al-Ḥijr (now Madāʾin Ṣāliḥ, barely six miles north of Dedān), and Taymāʾ to the northeast of the other two, have long been known but not fully explored. In south-central Arabia, near Al-Sulayyil, a town site at Qaryat Dhāt Kāhil (now Qaryat al-Fāw) has yielded rich results from excavation. In northeastern Arabia, inland from modern Al-Qaṭīf, a Danish expedition has revealed a hitherto unsuspected pre-Islamic walled town of large dimension. The written records consist of a vast number of inscriptions (especially thickly clustered in Yemen) on stone slabs, rock faces, bronze tablets, and other objects, together with graffiti on rock, scattered widely through the peninsula. In all this material, only a handful of inscriptions can properly be called Arabic. In the north and centre the dominant linguistic form is Old North Arabian (subclassified into Liḥyānic, Thamūdic, and Ṣafaitic); despite close connections between this group and Arabic, the latter cannot be regarded as lineally descended from it. The Yemenite inscriptions are in Old South Arabian (subclassified into Minaean, Sabaean, Qatabānian, and Hadhramautic), which is a wholly independent group within the Semitic family of languages. (The Old North Arabian and Old South Arabian inscriptions and graffiti are in scripts of a South Semitic type, of which Ethiopic is the only present-day survivor; modern Arabic script is of a North Semitic type.) Unscientific pillaging, however, has deprived many of the Yemeni inscriptions of a good deal of their value by removing them from their archaeological context. There are also inscriptions in extraneous languages: Aramaic, Greek, and Latin. In the ancient Yemeni culture area are many great structures and monuments, such as dams, temples, and palaces, as well as a wealth of plastic art of extremely high quality. The motifs, such as the ubiquitousbull heads and ibex figures, are partly characteristic of Yemen, but from the 3rd century BCE onward the style is markedly Hellenistic. Fresh data, both archaeological and epigraphic, appear every year and sometimes entail radical reappraisal of earlier hypotheses. Any attempt at a synthetic picture is therefore strictly provisional.
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Edited by sam1528 at 26-11-2018 11:31 PM
Ha ha ha ha ... lobai mat slow v2 dah gila & mabok todi
Ko masih nak tunjuk yg diri ko tu amat2 kureng fasih english & kureng cerdik
Apa ke benda tu bukti & rujukkan pon ko tak tau ... nak kata apa
Aiyoyo tambi ... argumen ko adalah of an under educated moron
Macamana ko boleh mati2 dgn pahaman : palaeography = islam bermula kat Petra ???
Ko langsung tak tau ttg apa rujukkan Peer Reviewed Publication yg ko dok bagi
Ko buta2 aje copy paste macam ni :
Baca commentary dalam bulatan merah tu lobai samdol ada bagi tau the oldest dated Islamic inscription dan islamic pottery discovered in petra. Iatu seawal 7CAD tu lobai samdol. Lobai samdol ni terlalu bodoh lah.
Commentary tersebut dok catat ttg Inscription berkaitan dgn development of the Arabic Script
Cuba ko baca balik apa yg ko bulatkan. Tak catat langsung spt conclusion ko kononnya Islam bermula dari Petra
Jelas ia catat : ... development of the Arabic Script during the early Islamic period (see table 1 ....
Kita refer ke conclusion paper tersebut :
The inscriptions are important from a palaeographical point of view , shedding light on the development of the Arabic script during this early period in this part of the Islamic world. Concerning their content,they mostly seek forgiveness for persons who areotherwise unknown in Arabic historical sources.
Ikut conclusion dia , inscription tersebut adalah penting dari palaeographical standpoint
It gives us insight in the development of the Arabic Script
Macamana ko boleh paham : palaeography = islam bermula kat Petra ???
You really lack education lah tambi
Nak lagi? Ini dari ko sendiri :
The racial affinities of the Arabian populations are not traceable. A theory by which Arabia was considered the birthplace and homeland of the nations of Semitic culture is not now regarded as tenable.
The written records consist of a vast number of inscriptions (especially thickly clustered in Yemen) on stone slabs, rock faces, bronze tablets, and other objects, together with graffiti on rock, scattered widely through the peninsula. In all this material, only a handful of inscriptions can properly be called Arabic. In the north and centre the dominant linguistic form is Old North Arabian (subclassified into Liḥyānic, Thamūdic, and Ṣafaitic); despite close connections between this group and Arabic, the latter cannot be regarded as lineally descended from it. The Yemenite inscriptions are in Old South Arabian (subclassified into Minaean, Sabaean, Qatabānian, and Hadhramautic), which is a wholly independent group within the Semitic family of languages. (The Old North Arabian and Old South Arabian inscriptions and graffiti are in scripts of a South Semitic type, of which Ethiopic is the only present-day survivor; modern Arabic script is of a North Semitic type.) Unscientific pillaging, however, has deprived many of the Yemeni inscriptions of a good deal of their value by removing them from their archaeological context. There are also inscriptions in extraneous languages: Aramaic, Greek, and Latin.
Rujukkan ko dok cakap ttg Semitic people & their languages
Kalo ko tak tau , Arabs are Semitic people lah tambi
This is sooooo bad from you ... nothing to do dgn fantasy ko iaitu 'Islam bermula dari Petra'
I am really questioning your level or lack of education ... only morons would make such mistaken claims
Ko tak malu ke making such idiotic mistakes atau ko betul2 tak tau apa yg ko dok cakap pasal ko tak paham english
Its either or ... oops , it could be both pon
Alahai lobai mat slow v2 ... boleh tak ko ni cerdik sikit?
Ko betul2 muka tak malu , tak kisah langsung diri ko berkali kali diperbodohkan
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Post time 25-11-2018 12:04 AM
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