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SAMDOL TELAH DIBOGELKAN DI THREAD “Adakah ini sejarah asal islam" & SA

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Post time 19-11-2018 10:24 AM | Show all posts
Edited by sam1528 at 19-11-2018 10:26 AM
FOTHERMUCKER2 replied at 19-11-2018 05:39 AM
Saya fikir saya tau sekarang Kenapa lobai estate selalu refused tengok YouTube setiap kali saya gu ...

Ha ha ha ha ... lobai mat slow v2 dok merungut pasal dah betul2 habis modal

Pasal apa ko merungut macam ni?
Saya fikir saya tau sekarang Kenapa lobai estate selalu refused tengok YouTube setiap kali saya gunakan sebagai rujukan.. kerana lobai estate tak faham English, lobai estate hanya menggunakan text sebagai rujukan kerana text boleh di translates ke bahasa melayu, Patutlah selama ini apa yang saya cuba sampaikan lobai estate tak pernah faham ... tetapi kerana kekononya lobai estate nak tunjuk cerdik buat buat copypaste ..tapi apa yang lobai estate copypaste tu pun lobai estate tak faham sepenuhnya kerana lobai estate menggunakan google translate.

LOL ... dok youtube sana & youtube sini tapi masih tak paham apa yg ko nak cakap

Yg senang macam 'Academic Scholarship' pon tak paham .... apa yg ko mampu paham?

Oh yeah , ko kan amat2 kureng cerdik & kureng fasih english .... lobai mat slow v2 lah katakan

Mati2 pulak tu klaim duduk kat UK .... buat malu aje

Bila lagi ko nak kitar semula isu yg ko dah kantoi dimalukan dgn terhina sekali?

Bila tanya mana peta tersebut .... ko buat tak nampak aje ... dah malu lah tu pasal membohong

Dgn gahnya ko dok klaim :
Samdol, sebelum 9CAD pun dah ada beberapa orang islam yang buat peta waktu tu..tetapi apasal dia orang tiada letak Mecca didalam likaran peta dia orang? Kalau kau ada otak tentu kau boleh fikir kan? Tetapi disebabkan kau terlalu bodoh maka kau tidak mampu untuk berfikir Kenapa orang islam yang buat peta pun tiada Mecca.

Belum jumpa lagi ke?

Cuba ko check backside ko ... have you pulled out from your ass?

Kah kah kah ... lobai mat slow v2 dah terlondeh habis & lepas ni jadik spammer lah ko
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 Author| Post time 20-11-2018 06:41 AM | Show all posts
Edited by FOTHERMUCKER2 at 20-11-2018 08:41 AM
sam1528 replied at 19-11-2018 10:24 AM
Ha ha ha ha ... lobai mat slow v2 dok merungut pasal dah betul2 habis modal

Pasal apa ko merung ...

SAMDOL SUDAH PENING
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Post time 20-11-2018 08:44 AM | Show all posts
Edited by sam1528 at 20-11-2018 08:51 AM
FOTHERMUCKER2 replied at 20-11-2018 06:41 AM
Lobai estate dah kantoi habis dah kena kencing oleh pak arab dalam torah lebih kurang 332 ...

Baaaaahwahwahwa .... lobai mat slow v2 dok running in circles chasing your own backside

Ko dah kantoi dimalukan dgn terhina sekali & sekarang ko nak alih topik ye?
Lobai estate dah kantoi habis dah kena kencing oleh pak arab dalam torah lebih kurang 3325 tahun lepas iatu lebih kurang 2000 tahun sebelum nabi muhammad dan quraan. Didalam torah ada bagi tau.. The Sinai Peninsula or simply Sinai (now usually /ˈsaɪnaɪ/) is a peninsula in Egypt, tetiba selepas 200 tahun islam.. ada pak arab kencing lobai estate bahawa Tihamah di arab saudi tu adalah sinai. woi lobai estate 1400 lepas bolehlah nek kencing orang kerana waktu tu tiada internet dan manusia masil lagi blurrrr seperti lobai estate di 2018! . moon God tu pun dia orang jumpa di petra.


Another name for Mecca, or the wilderness and mountains surrounding it, according to Arab and Islamic tradition, is Faran or Pharan, referring to the Desert of Paran mentioned in the Old Testament at Genesis 21:21.
TETIBA SELEPAS RIBUAN TAHUN ADA ARAB KLIM...
Arab and Islamic tradition holds that the wilderness of Paran, broadly speaking, is the Tihamah and the site where Ishmael settled was Mecca. Yaqut al-Hamawi, the 12th century Syrian geographer, wrote that Fārān was "an arabized Hebrew word, one of the names of Mecca mentioned in the Torah.




The Sinai Peninsula or simply Sinai (now usually /ˈsaɪnaɪ/) is a peninsula in Egypt, and the only part of the country located in Asia. It is situated between the Mediterranean Sea to the north and the Red Sea to the south, and is a land bridge between Asia and Africa. Sinai has a land area of about 60,000 km2 (23,000 sq mi) and a population of approximately 1,400,000 people. Administratively, the Sinai Peninsula is divided into two governorates: the South Sinai Governorate and the North Sinai Governorate. Three other governorates span the Suez Canal, crossing into African Egypt: Suez Governorate on the southern end of the Suez Canal, Ismailia Governorate in the center, and Port Said Governorate in the north.

Sinai
Relief map of the Sinai Peninsula
Area
60,000 km 2(23,000 sq mi)
Population
1,400,000
Countries
Egypt
The Sinai Peninsula has been a part of Egypt from the First Dynasty of ancient Egypt (c. 3100 BC). This comes in stark contrast to the region north of it, the Levant (present-day territories of Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Israel and Palestine), which, due largely to its strategic geopolitical location and cultural convergences, has historically been the center of conflict between Egypt and various states of Mesopotamia and Asia Minor. In periods of foreign occupation, the Sinai was, like the rest of Egypt, also occupied and controlled by foreign empires, in more recent history the Ottoman Empire (1517–1867) and the United Kingdom (1882–1956). Israel invaded and occupied Sinai during the Suez Crisis (known in Egypt as the Tripartite Aggression due to the simultaneous coordinated attack by the UK, France and Israel) of 1956, and during the Six-Day War of 1967. On 6 October 1973, Egypt launched the Yom Kippur War to retake the peninsula, which was unsuccessful.
In 1982, as a result of the Israel–Egypt Peace Treaty of 1979, Israel withdrew from all of the Sinai Peninsula except the contentious territory of Taba, which was returned after a ruling by a commission of arbitration in 1989.

Today, Sinai has become a tourist destination due to its natural setting, rich coral reefs, and biblical history. Mount Sinai is one of the most religiously significant places in the Abrahamic faiths.



Mount Sinai (Gabal Musa)
The name Sinai (Hebrew: סִינַי, Classical Syriac: ܣܝܢܝ) may have been derived from the ancient moon-god Sin[1] or from the Hebrew word Seneh (Hebrew: סֶ֫נֶּה Senneh)[2] The peninsula acquired the name due to the assumption that a mountain near Saint Catherine's Monastery is the Biblical Mount Sinai. However this assumption is contested.[3]

LOL ... dko cakap pasal Sinai lah , Faran lah ... ni semua copy paste dari site polemik anti Islam lah ni

Desert Faran & 'Faran' lain tau tambi. Faran adalah nama lama sebahagian dari Mekkah

Kalo ko pergi mekkah ko boleh tanya mana Faran , geng mekkah akan bawak ko ke tempat tersebut , berapa minit aje dari Mesjid Haram

Tersebut dipanggil 'Tal Faran' atau 'Hill of Faran' .... outskirt of Mekkah aje

Tapi ko ko tak pernah ke mekkah ... too bad lah

Isu skg ko dah kantoi ttg Petra

Stick to the issue ... jgn lari kiri kanan pasal ko nak cuba alihkan isu

Ko tak serik2 lagi ke perbodohkan diri sendiri?

Kah kah kah ... lobai mat slow v2 cuba taktik alihkan isu ... too bad lah tambi ... ko dah kena
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sam1528 replied at 20-11-2018 08:44 AM
Baaaaahwahwahwa .... lobai mat slow v2 dok running in circles chasing your own backside

Ko dah  ...

HABISLA LOBAI ESTATE...

Another name for Mecca, or the wilderness and mountains surrounding it, according to Arab and Islamic tradition, is Faran or Pharan, referring to the Desert of Paran.. mentioned in the Old Testament .. (at Genesis 21:21:He lived in the wilderness of Paran, and his mother took a wife for him from the land of Egypt.)  Arab and Islamic tradition holds that the wilderness of Paran, broadly speaking, is the Tihamah and the site where Ishmael settled was Mecca. Yaqut al-Hamawi, the 12th century Syrian geographer, wrote that Fārān was "an arabized Hebrew word, one of the names of Mecca mentioned in the Torah.



The Sinai Peninsula has been a part of Egypt from the First Dynasty of ancient Egypt (c. 3100 BC). This comes in stark contrast to the region north of it, the Levant (present-day territories of Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Israel and Palestine), which, due largely to its strategic geopolitical location and cultural convergences, has historically been the center of conflict between Egypt and various states of Mesopotamia and Asia Minor.


Today, Sinai has become a tourist destination due to its natural setting, rich coral reefs, and biblical history. Mount Sinai is one of the most religiously significant places in the Abrahamic faiths.


Mount Sinai (Gabal Musa)
The name Sinai (Hebrew: סִינַי, Classical Syriac: ܣܝܢܝ) may have been derived from the ancient moon-god Sin or from the Hebrew word Seneh (Hebrew: סֶ֫נֶּה Senneh). The peninsula acquired the name due to the assumption that a mountain near Saint Catherine's Monastery is the Biblical Mount Sinai.
King David spent some time in the wilderness of Paran after Samuel died (Bible Samuel 25:1).

1 Kings 11:17-18 states that when Hadad the Edomite fled from Edom to Egypt, he passed through Midian and Paran on the way to Egypt.

It is not certain precisely where the wilderness of Paran is to be located. It is often associated with Mount Sinai in Egypt, and there is some evidence that it may originally have referred to the southern portion of the Sinai Peninsula.

The minor prophet Habakkuk references that "God is coming from Teman, the Holy One from Mount Paran" in Habakkuk 3:3.

Both Eusebius (in his Onomasticon, a Bible dictionary) and Jerome reported that Paran was a city in Paran desert, in Arabia Deserta (beyond Arabia Nabataea), southeast of Eilat Pharan. Onomasticon, under Pharan, states: "(Now) a city beyond Arabia adjoining the desert of the Saracens (who wander in the desert) through which the children of Israel went moving (camp) from Sinai. Located (we say) beyond Arabia on the south, three days journey to the east of Aila (in the desert Pharan) where Scripture affirms Ismael dwelled, whence the Ishmaelites. It is said (we read) also that (king) Chodollagomor cut to pieces those in 'Pharan which is in the desert'.

Eusebius' mention of Chodollagomor here refers to a possible earlier mention of Paran in Genesis 14:6, which states that as he and the other kings allied with him were campaigning in the region of Sodom and Gomorrah, they smote "the Horites in their mount Seir, unto El-paran, which is by the wilderness".


Sebeos, the Armenian Bishop and historian, describing the Arab conquest of his time, wrote that the Arabs "assembled and came out from Paran".


However However

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Edited by FOTHERMUCKER2 at 20-11-2018 12:45 PM
sam1528 replied at 20-11-2018 08:44 AM
Baaaaahwahwahwa .... lobai mat slow v2 dok running in circles chasing your own backside

Ko dah  ...

APA PULA KANTOI TENTANG PETRANYA LOBAI ESTATE? NYATA LOBAI ESTATE BODOH BEBAL LEMBAM...INI SEMUA ADA KAITAN DENGAN PETRA LAH WAHAI LOBAI ESTATE!
Another name for Mecca, or the wilderness and mountains surrounding it, according to Arab and Islamic tradition, is Faran or Pharan, referring to the Desert of Paran.. mentioned in the Old Testament .. (at Genesis 21:21:He lived in the wilderness of Paran, and his mother took a wife for him from the land of Egypt.)  Arab and Islamic tradition holds that the wilderness of Paran, broadly speaking, is the Tihamah and the site where Ishmael settled was Mecca. Yaqut al-Hamawi, the 12th century Syrian geographer, wrote that Fārān was "an arabized Hebrew word, one of the names of Mecca mentioned in the Torah.

Numbers 10:12
And the children of Israel took their journeys out of the wilderness of Sinai; and the cloud rested in the wilderness of Paran.(
literally describe the mountain as a volcano)
Biblical Mount Sinai
For other uses of the name Mount Sinai, see Mount Sinai.
For the biblical Mount Horeb, see Mount Horeb.

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According to the Book of Exodus, Mount Sinai (Hebrew: הר סיני, Har Sinai) is the mountain at which the Ten Commandments were given to Moses by God. In the Book of Deuteronomy, these events are described as having transpired at Mount Horeb. "Sinai" and "Horeb" are generally considered to refer to the same place by scholars.
Hebrew Bible texts describe the theophany at Mount Sinai in terms which a minority of scholars, following Charles Beke(1873), have suggested may literally describe the mountain as a volcano and have led to a search for alternative locations.





The desert of Faran or Pharan tu asalnya di sinai peninsula egypt sana la lobai estate.
HAHAHA..SELEPAS 2000 TAHUN KITAB TORAH(KITAB TORAH LEBIH KURANG 3400 TAHUN) BARU ARAB COPYCAT NAMA PARAN DAN MECCA BECCA DARI JORDAN KERANA NAK TIPU LOBAI ESTATE LAH. ITU PUN TAK NAMPAK KE? LOBAI ESTATE BLURRRRR KA?

tengok youtube ni idols pun dari mecca becca petra.1)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-cHux8nrNI&feature=youtu.be


2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9u_4heA3d8




Book of Numbers
The Book of Numbers (Greek: Αριθμοί arithmoi meaning "numbers") or Bəmidbar (Hebrew: במדבר, literally "In the wilderness of") is the fourth book of the Hebrew Bible/Christian Old Testament, and the fourth of five books of the Jewish Torah or Pentateuch.
This book may be divided into three parts:
The numbering of the people at Sinai, and preparations for resuming their march (1–10:10).
An account of the journey from Sinai to Moab, the sending out of the spies and the report they brought back, and the murmurings (eight times) of the people at the hardships by the way (10:11–21:20).
The transactions in the plain of Moab before crossing the Jordan River (21:21–36).

The period comprehended in the history extends from the second month of the second year, as measured from the Exodus, to the beginning of the eleventh month of the fortieth year, in all about thirty-seven years and nine months; a dreary period of wanderings. They were fewer in number at the end of their wanderings than when they left the land of Egypt.
According to tradition, Moses authored all five books of the Torah. According to the documentary hypothesis, Numbers, with its dry style and emphasis on censuses, derives from the priestly source, c. 550–400 BC, and was combined with the other three sources to create the Torah c. 400.
Title
The Hebrew title Bəmidbar, short for bəmidbar Sinai ("in the desert of Sinai"), is taken from the first verse, and "serves to foreground the years of testing in the wilderness that make up the central section of the book (chapters 11–21)." The English title Numbers is derived from the Greek of the Septuagint, referencing the numbering of the Israelites in the wilderness of Sinai and later on the plain of Moab.

Summary
Numbering God's people
God orders Moses, in the wilderness of Sinai, to number those able to bear arms—of all the men "from twenty years old and upward," and to appoint princes over each tribe. A total of 603,550 Israelites are found to be fit for military service. The tribe of Levi is exempted from military service and therefore not included in the census. Moses consecrates the Levites for the service of the Tabernacle in the place of the first-born sons, who hitherto had performed that service. The Levites are divided into three families, the Gershonites, the Kohathites, and the Merarites, each under a chief. The Kohathites were headed by Eleazar, son of Aaron, while the Gershonites and Merarites were headed by Aaron's other son, Ithamar. Preparations are then made for resuming the march to the Promised Land. Various ordinances and laws are decreed.
The Israelites set out from Sinai. The people murmur against God and are punished by fire; Moses complains of their stubbornness and is ordered to choose seventy elders to assist him in the government of the people. Miriam and Aaron insult Moses at Hazeroth, which angers God; Miriam is punished with leprosy and is shut out of camp for seven days, at the end of which the Israelites proceed to the desert of Paran on the border of Canaan. Twelve spies are sent out into Canaan and come back to report to Moses. Joshua and Caleb, two of the spies, report that the land is abundant and is "flowing with milk and honey", but the other spies say that it is inhabited by giants, and the Israelites refuse to enter the land. Yahweh decrees that the Israelites will be punished for their loss of faith by having to wander in the wilderness for 40 years.
Moses is ordered by God to make plates to cover the altar. The children of Israel murmur against Moses and Aaron on account of the destruction of Korah's men and are stricken with the plague, with 14,700 perishing. Aaron and his family are declared by God to be responsible for any iniquity committed in connection with the sanctuary. The Levites are again appointed to help in the keeping of the Tabernacle. The Levites are ordered to surrender to the priests a part of the tithes taken to them.
Miriam dies at Kadesh Barnea and the Israelites set out for Moab, on Canaan's eastern border. The Israelites blame Moses for the lack of water. Moses is ordered by God to speak to a rock but initially disobeys, and is punished by the announcement that he shall not enter Canaan. The king of Edom refuses permission to pass through his land and they go around it. Aaron dies on Mount Hor. The Israelites are bitten by Fiery flying serpents for speaking against God and Moses. A brazen serpent is made to ward off these serpents.
The Israelites arrive on the plains of Moab. A new census gives the total number of males from twenty years and upward as 601,730, and the number of the Levites from the age of one month and upward as 23,000. The land shall be divided by lot. The daughters of Zelophehad, their father having no sons, are to share in the allotment. Moses is ordered to appoint Joshua as his successor. Prescriptions for the observance of the feasts and the offerings for different occasions are enumerated. Moses orders the Israelites to massacre the people of Midian. The Reubenites and the Gadites request Moses to assign them the land east of the Jordan. Moses grants their request after they promise to help in the conquest of the land west of the Jordan. The land east of the Jordan is divided among the tribes of Reuben, Gad, and the half-tribe of Manasseh. Moses recalls the stations at which the Israelites halted during their forty years' wanderings and instructs the Israelites to exterminate the Canaanites and destroy their idols. The boundaries of the land are spelled out; the land is to be divided under the supervision of Eleazar, Joshua, and twelve princes, one of each tribe.






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Edited by sam1528 at 20-11-2018 03:40 PM
FOTHERMUCKER2 replied at 20-11-2018 10:07 AM
HABISLA LOBAI ESTATE...
Another name for Mecca, or the wilderness and mountains surrounding it, a ...

Ha ha ha ha ... he he he he ... ho ho ho ho ... lobai mat slow v2 dah terlampau pening & desperate

Rujukkan ko pada masa ini utk kononnya sangkal argumen aku adalah bible (Old Testament)

Konfom lah ko ni copy paste dari site missionary yg anti Islam ... this is soooo poor lah tambi
HABISLA LOBAI ESTATE...

Another name for Mecca, or the wilderness and mountains surrounding it, according to Arab and Islamic tradition, is Faran or Pharan, referring to the Desert of Paran.. mentioned in the Old Testament .. (at Genesis 21:21:He lived in the wilderness of Paran, and his mother took a wife for him from the land of Egypt.)  Arab and Islamic tradition holds that the wilderness of Paran, broadly speaking, is the Tihamah and the site where Ishmael settled was Mecca. Yaqut al-Hamawi, the 12th century Syrian geographer, wrote that Fārān was "an arabized Hebrew word, one of the names of Mecca mentioned in the Torah.



The Sinai Peninsula has been a part of Egypt from the First Dynasty of ancient Egypt (c. 3100 BC). This comes in stark contrast to the region north of it, the Levant (present-day territories of Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Israel and Palestine), which, due largely to its strategic geopolitical location and cultural convergences, has historically been the center of conflict between Egypt and various states of Mesopotamia and Asia Minor.


Today, Sinai has become a tourist destination due to its natural setting, rich coral reefs, and biblical history. Mount Sinai is one of the most religiously significant places in the Abrahamic faiths.


Mount Sinai (Gabal Musa)
The name Sinai (Hebrew: סִינַי, Classical Syriac: ܣܝܢܝ) may have been derived from the ancient moon-god Sin or from the Hebrew word Seneh (Hebrew: סֶ֫נֶּה Senneh). The peninsula acquired the name due to the assumption that a mountain near Saint Catherine's Monastery is the Biblical Mount Sinai.
King David spent some time in the wilderness of Paran after Samuel died (Bible Samuel 25:1).

1 Kings 11:17-18 states that when Hadad the Edomite fled from Edom to Egypt, he passed through Midian and Paran on the way to Egypt.

It is not certain precisely where the wilderness of Paran is to be located. It is often associated with Mount Sinai in Egypt, and there is some evidence that it may originally have referred to the southern portion of the Sinai Peninsula.

The minor prophet Habakkuk references that "God is coming from Teman, the Holy One from Mount Paran" in Habakkuk 3:3.

Both Eusebius (in his Onomasticon, a Bible dictionary) and Jerome reported that Paran was a city in Paran desert, in Arabia Deserta (beyond Arabia Nabataea), southeast of Eilat Pharan. Onomasticon, under Pharan, states: "(Now) a city beyond Arabia adjoining the desert of the Saracens (who wander in the desert) through which the children of Israel went moving (camp) from Sinai. Located (we say) beyond Arabia on the south, three days journey to the east of Aila (in the desert Pharan) where Scripture affirms Ismael dwelled, whence the Ishmaelites. It is said (we read) also that (king) Chodollagomor cut to pieces those in 'Pharan which is in the desert'.

Eusebius' mention of Chodollagomor here refers to a possible earlier mention of Paran in Genesis 14:6, which states that as he and the other kings allied with him were campaigning in the region of Sodom and Gomorrah, they smote "the Horites in their mount Seir, unto El-paran, which is by the wilderness".


Sebeos, the Armenian Bishop and historian, describing the Arab conquest of his time, wrote that the Arabs "assembled and came out from Paran".


However However

Soalan simple aje ... sapa yg tulis buku Genesis , 1Kings & Samuel? Kalo ko tak tau sapa yg tulis ... macamana ko boleh anggap tersebut authoritative?

Bermakna ko ni dah 'bangang sampai ke tulang'

Ni kali 2 aku bagi tau ko : Desert Faran & 'Faran' lain tau tambi. Faran adalah nama lama sebahagian dari Mekkah

Rujukkan aku? Senang aje .... Buku 'Journeys in Holy Lands' oleh Prof Reuvan Firestone


Konfom ttg Faran & Mekkah

LOL ... lobai mat slow v2 skg dok mati2 percaya kat bible OT

Soalan aku senang aje ... sapa yg tulis buku Genesis , 1 Kings & Samuel dlm argumen bangang ko?

Tak boleh jawab kan.

Kalo ko tak mampu jawab , macamana ko mati2 klaim apa kat buku Genesis & 1Kings tu betul?

Kah kah kah ... lobai mat slow v2 kantoi dimalukan dgn terhina sekali ... ko dah terlampau desperate

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Edited by sam1528 at 20-11-2018 04:12 PM
FOTHERMUCKER2 replied at 20-11-2018 10:10 AM
APA PULA KANTOI TENTANG PETRANYA LOBAI ESTATE? NYATA LOBAI ESTATE BODOH BEBAL LEMBAM{:1_5 ...

Baaaahwahwahwa ... lobai mat slow dah mula nak membohong

Dlm desperation skg ko mati2 percaya kat bible OT ... lepas tu mula nak membohong pulak
APA PULA KANTOI TENTANG PETRANYA LOBAI ESTATE? NYATA LOBAI ESTATE BODOH BEBAL LEMBAM...INI SEMUA ADA KAITAN DENGAN PETRA LAH WAHAI LOBAI ESTATE!
Another name for Mecca, or the wilderness and mountains surrounding it, according to Arab and Islamic tradition, is Faran or Pharan, referring to the Desert of Paran.. mentioned in the Old Testament .. (at Genesis 21:21:He lived in the wilderness of Paran, and his mother took a wife for him from the land of Egypt.)  Arab and Islamic tradition holds that the wilderness of Paran, broadly speaking, is the Tihamah and the site where Ishmael settled was Mecca. Yaqut al-Hamawi, the 12th century Syrian geographer, wrote that Fārān was "an arabized Hebrew word, one of the names of Mecca mentioned in the Torah.

Numbers 10:12
And the children of Israel took their journeys out of the wilderness of Sinai; and the cloud rested in the wilderness of Paran.(
literally describe the mountain as a volcano)
Biblical Mount Sinai
For other uses of the name Mount Sinai, see Mount Sinai.
For the biblical Mount Horeb, see Mount Horeb.

[size=13.15999984741211px]
[size=12.370400428771973px]



According to the Book of Exodus, Mount Sinai (Hebrew: הר סיני, Har Sinai) is the mountain at which the Ten Commandments were given to Moses by God. In the Book of Deuteronomy, these events are described as having transpired at Mount Horeb. "Sinai" and "Horeb" are generally considered to refer to the same place by scholars.
Hebrew Bible texts describe the theophany at Mount Sinai in terms which a minority of scholars, following Charles Beke(1873), have suggested may literally describe the mountain as a volcano and have led to a search for alternative locations.





The desert of Faran or Pharan tu asalnya di sinai peninsula egypt sana la lobai estate.
HAHAHA..SELEPAS 2000 TAHUN KITAB TORAH(KITAB TORAH LEBIH KURANG 3400 TAHUN) BARU ARAB COPYCAT NAMA PARAN DAN MECCA BECCA DARI JORDAN KERANA NAK TIPU LOBAI ESTATE LAH. ITU PUN TAK NAMPAK KE? LOBAI ESTATE BLURRRRR KA?

tengok youtube ni idols pun dari mecca becca petra.1)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-cHux8nrNI&feature=youtu.be


2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9u_4heA3d8




Book of Numbers
The Book of Numbers (Greek: Αριθμοί arithmoi meaning "numbers") or Bəmidbar (Hebrew: במדבר, literally "In the wilderness of") is the fourth book of the Hebrew Bible/Christian Old Testament, and the fourth of five books of the Jewish Torah or Pentateuch.
This book may be divided into three parts:
The numbering of the people at Sinai, and preparations for resuming their march (1–10:10).
An account of the journey from Sinai to Moab, the sending out of the spies and the report they brought back, and the murmurings (eight times) of the people at the hardships by the way (10:11–21:20).
The transactions in the plain of Moab before crossing the Jordan River (21:21–36).

The period comprehended in the history extends from the second month of the second year, as measured from the Exodus, to the beginning of the eleventh month of the fortieth year, in all about thirty-seven years and nine months; a dreary period of wanderings. They were fewer in number at the end of their wanderings than when they left the land of Egypt.
According to tradition, Moses authored all five books of the Torah. According to the documentary hypothesis, Numbers, with its dry style and emphasis on censuses, derives from the priestly source, c. 550–400 BC, and was combined with the other three sources to create the Torah c. 400.
Title
The Hebrew title Bəmidbar, short for bəmidbar Sinai ("in the desert of Sinai"), is taken from the first verse, and "serves to foreground the years of testing in the wilderness that make up the central section of the book (chapters 11–21)." The English title Numbers is derived from the Greek of the Septuagint, referencing the numbering of the Israelites in the wilderness of Sinai and later on the plain of Moab.

Summary
Numbering God's people
God orders Moses, in the wilderness of Sinai, to number those able to bear arms—of all the men "from twenty years old and upward," and to appoint princes over each tribe. A total of 603,550 Israelites are found to be fit for military service. The tribe of Levi is exempted from military service and therefore not included in the census. Moses consecrates the Levites for the service of the Tabernacle in the place of the first-born sons, who hitherto had performed that service. The Levites are divided into three families, the Gershonites, the Kohathites, and the Merarites, each under a chief. The Kohathites were headed by Eleazar, son of Aaron, while the Gershonites and Merarites were headed by Aaron's other son, Ithamar. Preparations are then made for resuming the march to the Promised Land. Various ordinances and laws are decreed.
The Israelites set out from Sinai. The people murmur against God and are punished by fire; Moses complains of their stubbornness and is ordered to choose seventy elders to assist him in the government of the people. Miriam and Aaron insult Moses at Hazeroth, which angers God; Miriam is punished with leprosy and is shut out of camp for seven days, at the end of which the Israelites proceed to the desert of Paran on the border of Canaan. Twelve spies are sent out into Canaan and come back to report to Moses. Joshua and Caleb, two of the spies, report that the land is abundant and is "flowing with milk and honey", but the other spies say that it is inhabited by giants, and the Israelites refuse to enter the land. Yahweh decrees that the Israelites will be punished for their loss of faith by having to wander in the wilderness for 40 years.
Moses is ordered by God to make plates to cover the altar. The children of Israel murmur against Moses and Aaron on account of the destruction of Korah's men and are stricken with the plague, with 14,700 perishing. Aaron and his family are declared by God to be responsible for any iniquity committed in connection with the sanctuary. The Levites are again appointed to help in the keeping of the Tabernacle. The Levites are ordered to surrender to the priests a part of the tithes taken to them.
Miriam dies at Kadesh Barnea and the Israelites set out for Moab, on Canaan's eastern border. The Israelites blame Moses for the lack of water. Moses is ordered by God to speak to a rock but initially disobeys, and is punished by the announcement that he shall not enter Canaan. The king of Edom refuses permission to pass through his land and they go around it. Aaron dies on Mount Hor. The Israelites are bitten by Fiery flying serpents for speaking against God and Moses. A brazen serpent is made to ward off these serpents.
The Israelites arrive on the plains of Moab. A new census gives the total number of males from twenty years and upward as 601,730, and the number of the Levites from the age of one month and upward as 23,000. The land shall be divided by lot. The daughters of Zelophehad, their father having no sons, are to share in the allotment. Moses is ordered to appoint Joshua as his successor. Prescriptions for the observance of the feasts and the offerings for different occasions are enumerated. Moses orders the Israelites to massacre the people of Midian. The Reubenites and the Gadites request Moses to assign them the land east of the Jordan. Moses grants their request after they promise to help in the conquest of the land west of the Jordan. The land east of the Jordan is divided among the tribes of Reuben, Gad, and the half-tribe of Manasseh. Moses recalls the stations at which the Israelites halted during their forty years' wanderings and instructs the Israelites to exterminate the Canaanites and destroy their idols. The boundaries of the land are spelled out; the land is to be divided under the supervision of Eleazar, Joshua, and twelve princes, one of each tribe.

Aku catat : 'Tal Faran' atau 'Hill of Faran' .... outskirt of Mekkah aje

Pahaman ko pulak macam ni : Another name for Mecca, or the wilderness and mountains surrounding it, according to Arab and Islamic tradition, is Faran or Pharan, referring to the Desert of Paran.. mentioned in the Old Testament .. (at Genesis 21:21

----> Lobai mat slow v2 amat2 kureng fasih english

Lagi sekali aku tanya ... sapa yg tulis buku Genesis , Exodus , Numbers & Deutronomy pasal ko rujuk kepada buku2 tersebut

Ko klaim spt berikut : According to tradition, Moses authored all five books of the Torah

Betul ke ni? Dari Deut34:5-6
5 And Moses the servant of the Lord died there in Moab, as the Lord had said.

6 He buried him<sup data-fn="#fen-NIV-5846a" class="footnote" data-link="[a]">[a] in Moab, in the valley opposite Beth Peor, but to this day no one knows where his grave is.

LOL ... dah mati pon masih boleh tulis kat mana dia ditanam?

Lu sudah gila ka tambi?

Rujukkan ko kat bible OT tak ada authority lah tambi

Ok lah ... macam ni aku pon rujuk kat bible lah dgn research oleh Research Fellow (Duke University) Michael S Sanders

Ini research beliau terhadap Pharan :
Whilst Kadesh is a common Hebrew word meaning "holy" the word Barnea is totally unknown. Salibi suggests that it could be referring to a god "rn" so the site could be one dedicated to that god. Hebrew scholars have no thoughts on the subject.
Back to "Google". Another shock. I get referred to a site containing papers from my old friend Velikovsky who I have spent 30 years criticising. I suppose Salibi could have been the Velikovsky of the 80s. Here I was relying on the scholarship of two men who have been more reviled than any two others in the modern age J
Where does Velikovsky place Kadesh Barnea, in the most unlikely place of all for a Jewish biblical scholar? MECCA!!! For him (and perhaps for me) it made perfect sense. What was the holiest site in Western Arabia, Mecca?
The story gets even stranger. As usual for Velikovsky, his writings are always meticulously (if not always accurately) footnoted. Kadesh Barnea in the Biblical account7 is located in the desert of Pharan (Paran)……. (note the "rn" again). Velikovsky states that "according to the old Arabian sources" Pharan is in the mountainous area of the Hijaz. There is a reference to a footnote 17. The problem is in his paper, footnote 17 is missing. What to do?
I remembered meeting Velikovsky’s research assistant when I visited the old man many years ago at his house in Princeton. I tried to contact him, Jan Sammer, now living in Czechoslovakia. What he sent me back was even more remarkable than Velikovsky’s original suggestion. The medieval Arab geographer actually identifies Pharan with Mecca itself.8
Where is Mecca on our grand scheme of things, again very near the fault line on the way from Yemen to Canaan?
I contacted Salibi again. He dismissed my ideas about Mt. Horeb in Yemen and Kadesh Barnea as Mecca (on the grounds that it was too arid, but in fact there are fresh springs in the area and 2,500 years ago, the area could well have been lush) but did identify the 12 camping spots mentioned in Numbers 33 as being the exact equivalents of sites in Asir.

Dia yg buat research kat bible , konfom pulak Pharan & Mekkah

Macamana skg tambi?

Dah lah ko kantoi ttg Petra ... lari pulak ke Pharan ... kantoi dimalukan dgn terhina sekali lagi

Apa yg ko ada?

Oops ... nothing lah tambi except dok kencing kiri kanan

Kah kah kah ... lobai mat slow v2 kena lagi ... 'peeeeek' - setepek tang dahi
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sam1528 replied at 20-11-2018 04:11 PM
Baaaahwahwahwa ... lobai mat slow dah mula nak membohong

Dlm desperation skg ko mati2 percaya k ...

Hahaha...ini sudah lawak lobai samdol keluar estate, confirm lobai samdol sudah terlalu blurrrr, woi lobai estate kau fikir orang yang tulis tu bodoh seperti kau ke...english pun guna Google trans. Bodoh punya lobai estate klim dia dah mati boleh tapi masih boleh menulis tentang kisah hidup dia sendiri!. Lobai estate nak tunjuk cerdik kekononya, dah kantoi terlalu bodoh klim tiada kene mengena dengan Petra. Nampak sangat 100% lobai estate ni tak faham english!, matilah layan lobai samdol
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Post time 20-11-2018 06:29 PM | Show all posts
Edited by sam1528 at 20-11-2018 06:35 PM
FOTHERMUCKER2 replied at 20-11-2018 04:58 PM
Hahaha...ini sudah lawak lobai samdol keluar estate, confirm lobai samdol sudah terlalu b ...

Baaaahwahwahwa .... lobai mat slow v2 dah mula mabok todi

As usual , bila dah tersepit , ko akan merepek meraban bagai beruk separuh akai yg mabuk todi

Ni pulak merepek ko :
Hahaha...ini sudah lawak lobai samdol keluar estate, confirm lobai samdol sudah terlalu blurrrr, woi lobai estate kau fikir orang yang tulis tu bodoh seperti kau ke...english pun guna Google trans. Bodoh punya lobai estate klim dia dah mati boleh tapi masih boleh menulis tentang kisah hidup dia sendiri!. Lobai estate nak tunjuk cerdik kekononya, dah kantoi terlalu bodoh klim tiada kene mengena dengan Petra. Nampak sangat 100% lobai estate ni tak faham english!, matilah layan lobai samdol

Contoh ko kureng fasih english macam ni lah :
Aku catat : 'Tal Faran' atau 'Hill of Faran' .... outskirt of Mekkah aje (post#143)

Pahaman ko pulak macam ni (post# 145): Another name for Mecca, or the wilderness and mountains surrounding it, according to Arab and Islamic tradition, is Faran or Pharan, referring to the Desert of Paran.. mentioned in the Old Testament .. (at Genesis 21:21

----> Lobai mat slow v2 amat2 kureng fasih english

Aiyoyo tambi ... apa sudah jadik?

Lagi best ... skg ko dah jadik Pader Kristian yg gunakan bible utk argumen ko

Soalan senang aje ... sapa yg tulis 'the 5 Books Of Moses'?

Jawapan ko dari post#145
According to tradition, Moses authored all five books of the Torah.

Problem ko skg :
Betul ke ni? Dari Deut34:5-6

5 And Moses the servant of the Lord died there in Moab, as the Lord had said.

6 He buried him in Moab, in the valley opposite Beth Peor, but to this day no one knows where his grave is.

LOL ... dah mati pon masih boleh tulis kat mana dia ditanam?

Lu sudah gila ka tambi?

Ko , dgn amat terdesak ; nak lari punya pasal , mengencing lah macam ini :
Bodoh punya lobai estate klim dia dah mati boleh tapi masih boleh menulis tentang kisah hidup dia sendiri!

Errr tambi , soalan aku adalah : macamana org mati boleh tulis ttg mana dia ditanam bukan klaim ttg kisah hidup dia

Tarak paham apa lu baca ka tambi? Amat2 kureng cerdik & amat2 kureng fasih english

Macamana skg tambi? Lu sudah tersepit lah ... patut lah ko merepek meraban bagaikan beruk separuh akai yg mabok todi

Kah kah kah ... lobai mat slow v2 dah kantoi dimalukan dgn terhina sekali ... tak tau malu pulak tu

** Ttg Petra dah kantoi dimalukan dgn terhina sekali
** Ttg Pharan pon kantoi dimalukan dgn terhina sekali

Kesian ... kesian ... kesian

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Edited by FOTHERMUCKER2 at 20-11-2018 11:12 PM
sam1528 replied at 20-11-2018 06:29 PM
Baaaahwahwahwa .... lobai mat slow v2 dah mula mabok todi

As usual , bila dah tersepit , ko aka ...

Nampak sangat lobai estate ni betul betul tak faham, hahahaha...., lobai estate kenapa lobai estate terlalu bodoh? Tapi buat buat faham dan cerdik?

Lobai estate bagi tau apa pun memang lobai estate telah di putarbelit kan oleh arab!...seperti lobai estate memutarbelitkan di thread ni. Mana satu yang pertama? Torah ataupun quraan? . Tapi in reality semua tu putarbelit sahaja..seperti lobai estate putarbelit dithread ni kerana lobai estate masih blurrrrr seperti kehidupan manusia 4 ribu tahun lepas!

Kalau mengikut kepercayaan mereka sememangnya 5 buku tu ditulis oleh moses! Itu mengikut kepercayaan mereka lah. Sama juga dengan islam percaya apa yanh ada didalam quraan tu adalah words daripada tohan tapi hanya di copypaste dari torah dan injil je dan dan di ubah oleh pak arab..sebab itu arab copycat Mecca becca bacca di petra gunakan untuk Mecca di arab Saudi sama juga dengan kes ni iatu Mount Sinai... Tapi bagi saya semua religion adalah man made.

Hahaha lobai estate nak bagi tau bahawa lobai estate dah kantoi ...malu maka lobai estate kekononya bagi tau saya dah Ttg Petra dah kantoi dimalukan dgn terhina sekali
** Ttg Pharan pon kantoi dimalukan dgn terhina sekali. Kelakar lah kau lobai estate!
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Post time 20-11-2018 11:10 PM | Show all posts
Edited by sam1528 at 20-11-2018 11:11 PM
FOTHERMUCKER2 replied at 20-11-2018 10:27 PM
Nampak sangat lobai estate ni betul betul tak faham, hahahaha...., lobai estate  ...

Ha ha ha ha ... ho ho ho ho ... lobai mat slow v2 dah dah mula nak mengundur

Ko tak ada apa2 poin yg bernas lah tambi ... ko hanya kencing mengencing & going around in circles chasing your own backside

Bila dah tersepit ... ko merepek meraban
Nampak sangat lobai estate ni betul betul tak faham, hahahaha...., lobai estate kenapa lobai estate terlalu bodoh? Tapi buat buat faham dan cerdik?

Lobai estate bagi tau apa pun memang lobai estate telah di putarbelit kan oleh arab!...seperti lobai estate memutarbelitkan di thread ni. Mana satu yang pertama? Torah ataupun quraan? . Tapi in reality semua tu putarbelit sahaja..seperti lobai estate putarbelit dithread ni kerana lobai estate masih blurrrrr seperti kehidupan manusia 4 ribu tahun lepas!

Kalau mengikut kepercayaan mereka sememangnya 5 buku tu ditulis oleh moses! Itu mengikut kepercayaan mereka lah. Sama juga dengan islam percaya apa yanh ada didalam quraan tu adalah words daripada tohan tapi juga di copypaste dari torah dan injil je. Tapi bagi saya semua religion adalah man made.

Ko tanya aku mana satu yg dtg dulu? Ikut pemikiran songsang ko , kalo Torah dtg dulu , ia betul lah

Ni org panggil 'bodoh sampai ke tulang' ... ko dah kena checkmate pasal ko mati2 klaim Moses tulis the '5 books of Moses' tapi ada pulak dia tulis ttg pengkebumian dia ... bagus lah tu ... org yg dah mati pon boleh tulis lagi

Pemikiran ko langsung tak kritis ... oops , ko kan lobai mat slow v2

Skg ko dok merapu pasal torah lah , Quran lah ... ko dah kantoi ttg Petra & Pharan kan ... nak cuba alih topik lah

Padan muka ... aku dgn senang aje conteng arang kat muka ko ... tak melawan langsung

Ni lagi best ... dari ko
Tapi bagi saya semua religion adalah man made.

Lagi sekali aku bagi tau ko ... kalo ko Islam ... syahadah ko dah hancur

Berapa kali ko nak jadik macam ni ... this is what we call a self defeating statement

By now ko patut tau yg pengetahuan ko amat cetek sekali , tambah pulak amat2 kureng cerdik & kureng fasih english

Buat malu aje klaim duduk kat UK

Kah kah kah ... lobai mat slow v2 perbodohkan diri sendiri aje
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 Author| Post time 20-11-2018 11:16 PM | Show all posts
Edited by FOTHERMUCKER2 at 20-11-2018 11:21 PM
sam1528 replied at 20-11-2018 11:10 PM
Ha ha ha ha ... ho ho ho ho ... lobai mat slow v2 dah dah mula nak mengundur

Ko tak ada apa2 po ...

Sebab itulah Kalau lobai estate tengok video ni lobai estate akan faham https://youtu.be/6__C7Wu8qV4 dan https://youtu.be/N-cHux8nrNI tapi apa boleh buat lobai estate tak faham English

Lobai estate hanya boleh menggunakan text sahaja..itu pun menggunakan google translate Sebab itu kefahaman lobai estate kelaut. Hahaha gila lah lobai estate ni.
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Post time 20-11-2018 11:33 PM | Show all posts
Edited by sam1528 at 20-11-2018 11:34 PM
FOTHERMUCKER2 replied at 20-11-2018 11:16 PM
Sebab itulah Kalau lobai estate tengok video ni lobai estate akan faham https://youtu.be/6__C7Wu8q ...

Ha ha ha ha ... lagi sekali lobai mat slow v2 buktikan diri tu amat2 kureng fasih english

Kesian aku tengok ko , dah lah amat2 kureng cerdik tambah pulak amat2 kureng fasih english

Boleh meraban pulak tu :
Sebab itulah Kalau lobai estate tengok video ni lobai estate akan faham https://youtu.be/6__C7Wu8qV4 dan https://youtu.be/N-cHux8nrNI tapi apa boleh buat lobai estate tak faham English

Lobai estate hanya boleh menggunakan text sahaja..itu pun menggunakan google translate Sebab itu kefahaman lobai estate kelaut. Hahaha gila lah lobai estate ni.

Ko tak paham ke apa dia kata - Pre Islamic Arabia

Ko tau ke apa ke benda to 'Pre Islamic'?

Something is wrong with your comprehension lah tambi

Ko dengar baik2 kat timestamp 1.15 - exhibition tersebut fokus kepada era sebelum Islam

Aiyoyo tambi ... kalo aku kata ko ni 'bodoh sampai ke tulang' & amat2 kureng fasih english ... ko marah

Such is the truth lah tambi

Ko suka sgt kantoi malukan diri ko dgn terhina sekali ... are you a self hating person?
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 Author| Post time 20-11-2018 11:39 PM | Show all posts
Edited by FOTHERMUCKER2 at 20-11-2018 11:42 PM
sam1528 replied at 20-11-2018 11:33 PM
Ha ha ha ha ... lagi sekali lobai mat slow v2 buktikan diri tu amat2 kureng fasih english

Kesia ...

Bilama lobai estate masih tak faham telah di kencing oleh arab maka lobai estate nak kencing di thread ni pula! Hahaha...lobai estate

Hahaha...kesihan lobai estate masih lagi tak faham tentang video tu! Woi lobai estate setiap perkara yang berlaku ianya mesti ada permulaanya...
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Post time 21-11-2018 10:35 AM | Show all posts
Edited by sam1528 at 21-11-2018 10:37 AM
FOTHERMUCKER2 replied at 20-11-2018 11:39 PM
Bilama lobai estate masih tak faham telah di kencing oleh arab maka lobai estate nak kencing di th ...

Baaaahwahwahwa ... lobai mat slow v2 dok lari sambil mengencing

Apa yg ko nak cakap ni? Dah lah kantoi dimalukan dgn terhina sekali pasal amat2 kureng fasih english

Skg dok nak cakap :
Bilama lobai estate masih tak faham telah di kencing oleh arab maka lobai estate nak kencing di thread ni pula! Hahaha...lobai estate

Hahaha...kesihan lobai estate masih lagi tak faham tentang video tu! Woi lobai estate setiap perkara yang berlaku ianya mesti ada permulaanya...

'Kena kencing arab' lah , 'tak paham video tu' lah , 'setiap perkara ada permulaan' lah

Ko tak berani nak bagi to the point kan? Ko tau pasal apa

Senang aje ... you don't know what you are talking about

Apa yg ko nak cakap senang aje ... ko mati2 klaim yg kononnya Islam tu bermula dgn paganism

Alahai tambi ... ko tak tau sejarah ke? Sejarah ttg Amr Luhayi pon ko tak tau ke?

Apa yg ko tau sebenarnya? Nothing much ... betul tak?

Kesian lobai mat slow v2 ... skg dah malu nak ke CI pasal dah kena belasah kat sana & kat sini pon kena belasah

Geng sudah cabut lari ... mentetel depa lari

Nampak gaya , ko tak lama lah kat cari forum ini ... mungkin ko akan ke board gossip kot ... better for you

Kah kah kah ... lobai mat slow v2 dok terpinga pinga tak tau apa ke benda ... biasak lah tu
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sam1528 replied at 21-11-2018 10:35 AM
Baaaahwahwahwa ... lobai mat slow v2 dok lari sambil mengencing

Apa yg ko nak cakap ni? Dah lah ...

Confirm lobai keluar estate tak faham english, tetiba tanya apa itu pre Islamic. Itu aja ka yang lobai estate faham?
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Post time 21-11-2018 10:36 PM | Show all posts
Edited by sam1528 at 21-11-2018 10:42 PM
FOTHERMUCKER2 replied at 21-11-2018 10:24 PM
Confirm lobai keluar estate tak faham english, tetiba tanya apa itu pre Islamic. Itu aja ka yang l ...

Ha ha ha ha ... lobai mat slow v2 dah tahap lebih rendah dari troll

Ko dah kantoi lah tambi ... ko dah tak relevant

Ko aje masih nak kononnya melawan tapi ko tak daya.

Ko hanya mampu kitar semula isu yg ko dah kantoi dimalukan dgn terhina sekali

Huh? Isu 'Pre Islamic' pulak? Ni dari ko post#152 ... tonton aje lah video yg ko bagi :

Sebab itulah Kalau lobai estate tengok video ni lobai estate akan faham https://youtu.be/6__C7Wu8qV4 dan https://youtu.be/N-cHux8nrNI tapi apa boleh buat lobai estate tak faham English

Lobai estate hanya boleh menggunakan text sahaja..itu pun menggunakan google translate Sebab itu kefahaman lobai estate kelaut. Hahaha gila lah lobai estate ni.

Buat2 lupa lah tu

Maksud 'Pre Islamic' pon tak paham?

Apa yg ko paham sebenarnya? Petra = mekkah kot

Kah kah kah ... lobai mat slow v2 sekali lagi buktikan diri tu amat2 kureng cerdik & amat2 kureng fasih english
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sam1528 replied at 21-11-2018 10:36 PM
Ha ha ha ha ... lobai mat slow v2 dah tahap lebih rendah dari troll

Ko dah kantoi lah tambi ... ...

Apa apa je lah lobai estate, layan lobai estate baru nak tumbuh pubik ni tak kemana pun seperti anjing kejar ekor sendiri.. kalau faham english tu ok lah sikit, ini satu jam punya video tetiba tanya apa itu pre islamic! Hahaha...
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Post time 22-11-2018 10:58 AM | Show all posts
Edited by sam1528 at 22-11-2018 11:01 AM
FOTHERMUCKER2 replied at 22-11-2018 01:06 AM
Apa apa je lah lobai estate, layan lobai estate baru nak tumbuh pubik ni tak kemana pun seperti an ...

Baaaahwahwahwa ... lobai mat slow v2 dgn muka tak malu cuba nafikan yg diri tu amat2 kureng fasih english

Ko hanya berpusing in circles kejar backside sendiri lah tambi ... ko dah hancur ... apa pon ko tak dak

Balik2 video , balik2 video :
Apa apa je lah lobai estate, layan lobai estate baru nak tumbuh pubik ni tak kemana pun seperti anjing kejar ekor sendiri.. kalau faham english tu ok lah sikit, ini satu jam punya video tetiba tanya apa itu pre islamic! Hahaha...

Bukan ke ini rujukkan video dari ko : https://youtu.be/N-cHux8nrNI

Oops .. lagi sekali aku conteng arang kat lobai muka mat slow v2 ...

Rujukkan sendiri punya video pon tak tengok ka? Oops ... ada pulak tertera 'Pre Islam Arabia'

Apa ke benda 'pre Islam' pon ko tak paham , tak payah lah kalo aku suruh ko dengar kat timestamp 1:15

Mati2 pulak tu klaim duduk kat UK ... buat malu aje

Kat sana ko communicate pakai sign language atau ko mintak mana2 Malaysian tolong translate

Kah kah kah ... lobai mat slow v2 yg amat2 kureng cerdik & kureng fasih english ... apa pulak nak mengencing lepas ni
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 Author| Post time 23-11-2018 05:54 AM | Show all posts
Edited by FOTHERMUCKER2 at 23-11-2018 06:30 AM
sam1528 replied at 22-11-2018 10:58 AM
Baaaahwahwahwa ... lobai mat slow v2 dgn muka tak malu cuba nafikan yg diri tu amat2 kureng fasih  ...

Hahaha..Lobai estate punyalah nak tunjuk cerdik, tapi lobai estate tetap bodoh lah dan sudah pening ka kerana tak faham English? punya banyak informasi dalam video tu tetapi lobai estate hanya faham “preislamic” sahaja ka?
Btw mana bukti bekas peninggalan sejarah manusia pernah tinggal di Mecca arab Saudi dan bukti bekas peninggalan idols sembahan? Apasal banyak jumpa di tempat lain tetapi non hada di kawasan Kaaba?


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