Post time 7-1-2019 08:32 AMFrom the mobile phone|Show all posts
KILL_NANCY replied at 6-1-2019 11:25 AM
@salmon-suki
Thanksssss sis seru sy..parking dulu jap..tp disturbed jgk ler dgn title..siap warning2 lagi tu..hahahaha
Are they as controversial as a novel lolita by vladimir nabokov?hohoho~~
Post time 7-1-2019 08:38 AMFrom the mobile phone|Show all posts
Edited by chesfa at 7-1-2019 12:41 AM
Ok2, apa yang saya (yang selalu tersalah faham) ni faham, Verge ni von Trier ostensibly, after each murder, ada Jack dan Verge's interlocutions. Rumah ni ibarat wheel of Vampyr to the other world, ada afterworld scenes, ada scene ala Fuhrer's death camp dekat Auschwitz ---> yang tu The Raft of Medusa kan?
Jadi, director ni nak tunjuk pasal jenayah Jack yang barbaric, sadistic, ada bunuh budak juga!, tu very deserving of going to neraka, too little, too late, tak guna menyesal dah Jack. Apsal Jack jatuh ke bawah sekali, source of suffering: treachearous dari segi apa? Dia bunuh orang kot. That just shows how low the director think of doing vileful acts and their consequences *sah kena tengok balik, tapi....:
Sebenarnyaaaa nak suruh komen pasal apa? Semua TT dah terangkan Movie ni, as it is very dark and disturbing (earlier scenes), the ending is quite redeeming (epilog ending katabasis whatsoever tu). The director masukkan scene katabasis ni sebab nak cover his controversial views masa mula-mula, extravagant art konon orang tengok scenes mula-mula dulu, baru tengok ending
Tau pasal seven deadly sins jer (pride, greed, lust, envy, gluttony, anger, sloth), dalam dante's inferno ada sembilan tingkat neraka (limbo, lust, gluttony, greed, anger, heresy, violence, fraud, treachery). So thank u TT, berkongsi pengetahuan pasal ni
Still think tajuk thread ni misleading (bagi orang yang tak faham bahasa)
Nak baca buku motivational laa, sakit nyaa hati tengok movie ni
Pass baton to kak @hibernation hibernasiminyak!!!!
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Post time 7-1-2019 09:06 AMFrom the mobile phone|Show all posts
KILL_NANCY replied at 6-1-2019 04:20 PM
kalau ikutkan karya Lars ni memang lebih teruk daripada Cannibal Holocaust sebab ada melibatkan pemb ...
Sy pernah terbaca komen psl serbian film tu..most of them mmg kata tak patut wujud..so far sy x tgk lg laa sbb gore elements (ikutkn komen2 tu)..
Another one y sy rasa quite disturbing cite human centipede..uwekssssss..geli nk muntah tgk citer tu..ada jgk laa beberapa lg gore thriller y quite disturbing mcm film japan by sion sono..satu film tu tp ada element porno,so tgk pun kena skip part2 tu..in terms of content,theme dia,storyline,mood story mmg disturbing..
Post time 7-1-2019 09:11 AMFrom the mobile phone|Show all posts
chesfa replied at 7-1-2019 08:42 AM
Jangan laa, nanti ada yang buka thread pasal lolita pula
Hahahaha...sy ada novel tu..berjaya jgk ler cari sbb nak baca kenapa controversy sgt..
Tapi tak dpt habiskan lg..main theme psl nympho kan..so........sy cuba nak jaga minda drpd jauh tercemar ke alam gore and disturbing plus psychological thingy..sbb bnde2 camni senang lekat dlm kepala and will keep rewinding itself..
mengikut pemahaman kak nasi minyak....berkenaan kekejaman yg dilakukakan x tumpukan sangat, part paling menarik adalah pembalasan bila dah mampus nanti (pardon my rudeness)
paling tak puas hati bila kekejaman yg dilakukan tidak diberikan balasan setimpal, patutnya di humban ke level paling dalam....dah setaraf iblis laknatullah
Author|Post time 7-1-2019 02:11 PMFrom the mobile phone|Show all posts
Edited by KILL_NANCY at 7-1-2019 02:36 PM
chesfa replied at 7-1-2019 08:38 AM
Ok2, apa yang saya (yang selalu tersalah faham) ni faham, Verge ni von Trier ostensibly, after each ...
masa pictorial metaphor berjalan pada hujung babak.secara metodologi elysium itu sendiri bawa definitions of key concepts, which is a conception of the afterlife.
mengikut wiki, "Initially separate from the realm of Hades", apa yang masuk akal tentang potongan ayat ni ialah elysium itu sendiri secara langsung mendahului neraka.
The Anaeid (sebuah buku yang ada di rak buku Jack pada awal cerita), Book V, halaman 48: "jalan di kanan kamu, menuju ke arah kediaman di mana Pluto pergi, dan jalan itu membawa kamu ke elysium.kiri pula membawa jiwa2 berdosa untuk diazab, dan pendosa2 itu akan bertemu dengan Tartarus."
*tartarus : ikut kepercayaan kuno greek, jurang paling dalam di neraka.
saya rasa kalau nak kaitkan dengan auschwitz concentration camp atau block 11 tak bertepatan pula dengan era kedua2 lukisan ni, di mana kita sedia maklum membawa nilai2 sastera tradisional ini tidaklah merujuk pada auschwitz camp sebagai tartarus.
Post time 7-1-2019 08:04 AM
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Movie ni, as it is very dark and disturbing 
(earlier scenes), the ending is quite redeeming (epilog ending katabasis whatsoever tu). The director masukkan scene katabasis ni sebab nak cover his controversial views masa mula-mula, extravagant art konon 
orang tengok scenes mula-mula dulu, baru tengok ending 
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