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[Budaya] [Warning : Sensitive Issue and Contents] HOLOCAUST AND THE AFTERMATHS

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Post time 14-1-2019 03:59 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Edited by chesfa at 14-1-2019 08:02 AM
umbut replied at 14-1-2019 07:03 AM
Sama kejam cam jepun.. 1 geng
Knp hitler benci sangat yahudi?


Benda ni macam butterfly effect, dengan pelbagai spekulasi about its beginnings, sama ada disebabkan sejarah Hitler masa dia kecil, pengalaman dia masa jadi askar Jerman dalam WW1 dan banyak lagi

Kebencian Hitler kepada orang Yahudi went way back. Kita cut short jer. Orang Yahudi sangat KAYA! Contoh, keluarga Rothschild, tok nenek diorang duduk di Frankfurt, Jerman dulu. Mereka ni menguasai kuasa ekonomi dunia ---> pernah baca pasal conspiracy theories, Illuminati? Dikaitkan dengan keluarga ni, dan Hitler percaya dengan konspirasi ni
*Zaman sekarang, ada 3 negara jer yang industri perbankan tak dikawal oleh bank pusat milik keluarga Rothschild. Cuba, Korea Utara, Iran

Perlu diingatkan masa tu, Jerman kalah dalam Perang Dunia I. Ada banyak hutang (kena bayar pampasan yang tak adil dalam The Treaty of Versailles). Orang Jerman terpaksa berhutang dengan orang Yahudi yang banyak duit ni, kena bayar bunga yang tinggi. Hitler tak suka tengok, so dia start berkempen untuk membangunkan Jerman yang baru, di mana nobody has to borrow money dan dibebankan dengan kadar bunga yang tinggi. Orang Jerman seolah-olah mendapat harapan daripada kempen tu dan sokong Hitler jadi Chancellor Jerman

Hitler start dengan propaganda anti-semitism, guna kaedah The Big Lie ---> orang Yahudi bertanggungjawab ke atas kekalahan Jerman dalam WW1. Hence, the holocaust untuk menghapuskan bangsa Yahudi

@KILL_NANCY jaga ler thread awak!

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Post time 14-1-2019 04:01 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
KILL_NANCY replied at 14-1-2019 07:41 AM
belum lagi 10 juta holodomors.

"Sama kejam cam jepun.. 1 geng''

Boleh buat pasal WW2 dah
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Post time 14-1-2019 04:19 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Ironinya US buat benda sama kat imigrants, then Israel buat kat Palestine

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Post time 14-1-2019 04:36 PM | Show all posts
KILL_NANCY replied at 14-1-2019 11:05 AM
Banyak filem diterbitkan, yang dinspirasikan daripada tragedi holokaus ini. Antaranya, The Pia ...

Nice thread TT

One of the most memorable Holocaust themed movie for me is The Boy in the Striped Pyjamas. Made me tear up.

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lo_la replied at 14-1-2019 04:36 PM
Nice thread TT

One of the most memorable Holocaust themed movie for me is The Boy in the Stripe ...


terima kasih lo_la.
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There was this movie titled “The Boy in the Striped Pyjamas”an adaptation from a book by John Boyne of the same title. The movie showedlife the in the concentration camp in German (i think) with unusual view of the Holocaust, disturbing sceneswith sad ending of course. I remembered watching the movie and feeling depressedafterwards.

Yes holocaust is kejam and beyond words but unfortunatelythe world’s seems not learning from it. Our current world's affairs with Rohingya,Palestine crisis and Uigher situation are just unspeakable. displaced people, thousands flee their birthplace and loss of life of course.
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Post time 14-1-2019 05:13 PM | Show all posts
Kiah pun wondering too, kenapa Jewish in Europe kena genocide?  is it because of Bahaya Yahudi as written in the Mein Kampf-jilid-2 or Hitler political aspiration to expand german power to the east-yugoslavia, poland and to russia eventually? Ntah la.. Ineed to read more.. but sejarah pasal holocauset ni panjang giler kot, boleh jadi berjilid-jilid peradaban manusia.. half-way biasanya kiah gave-up membaca...


Jewish Refugees Duringand After the Holocaust


Jews fleeing the Nazis had difficulty findingcountries that would take them in.


Between the Nazi rise to power in 1933 andNazi Germany’s surrender in 1945, more than 340,000 Jews emigrated from Germanyand Austria. Tragically, nearly 100,000 of them found refuge in countriessubsequently conquered by Germany. German authorities would deport and kill thevast majority of them.


Around the World

After Germany annexed Austria in March 1938and particularly after the Kristallnacht pogromsof November 9–10, 1938, nations in western Europe and the Americas feared aninflux of refugees. About 85,000 Jewish refugees (out of 120,000 Jewishemigrants) reached the United States between March 1938 and September 1939, butthis level of immigration was far below the number seeking refuge.
In late 1938, 125,000 applicants lined upoutside US consulates hoping to obtain 27,000 visas under the existingimmigration quota. By June 1939, the number of applicants had increased to over300,000. Most visa applicants were unsuccessful. At the Evian Conference inJuly 1938, only theDominican Republic stated that it was prepared to admitsignificant numbers of refugees, although Bolivia would admit around 30,000Jewish immigrants between 1938 and 1941.


In a highly publicized event in May–June 1939,the United States refused to admit over 900 Jewish refugees who had sailed fromHamburg, Germany, on the St. Louis. The St. Louis appeared off the coast ofFlorida shortly after Cuban authorities cancelled the refugees’ transit visasand denied entry to most of the passengers, who were still waiting to receivevisas to enter the United States. Denied permission to land in the UnitedStates, the ship was forced to return to Europe. The governments of GreatBritain, France, the Netherlands, and Belgium each agreed to acceptsome of the passengers as refugees. Of the 908 St. Louispassengers who returned to Europe, 254 (nearly 28 percent) are known to havedied in the Holocaust. 288 passengers found refuge in Britain. Of the 620 whoreturned to the continent, 366 (just over 59 percent) are known to havesurvived the war.


British Mandate Palestine (Pre-State Israel)

Over 60,000 German Jews immigrated to Palestineduring the 1930s, most under the terms of the Haavara (Transfer)Agreement. This agreement between Germany and the Jewish authorities inPalestine facilitated Jewish emigration to Palestine. The main obstacle toemigration of Jews from Germany was German legislation banning the export offoreign currency. According to the agreement, Jewish assets in Germany would bedisposed of in an orderly manner and the resulting capital transferred toPalestine through the export of German products.


The British WhitePaper in May 1939, a policy statement approved by the BritishParliament, contained measures that severely limited Jewish entry intoPalestine. As the number of hospitable destinations dwindled, tens of thousandsof German, Austrian, and Polish Jews emigratedto Shanghai, one destination that did not require a visa.Shanghai’s International Settlements quarter, effectively under Japanese control,admitted 17,000 Jews.


Stricter Limits, Despite Reports of MassMurder

During the second half of 1941, even asunconfirmed reports of the mass murder perpetrated by the Nazis filtered to theWest, the US Department of State placed even stricter limits on immigrationbased on national security concerns. Despite British restrictions, limitednumbers of Jews entered Palestine during the war through “illegal” immigration(Aliyah Bet). Great Britain itself limited its own intake of immigrants in1938–1939, though the British government did permit the entry of some 10,000Jewish children in a special Kindertransport (Children’s Transport) program. Atthe Bermuda Conference in April 1943, the Allies offered no concrete proposalsfor rescue.


Switzerland took in approximately 30,000 Jews, butturned back about the same number at the border.About 100,000 Jews reached the Iberian Peninsula. Spain took in a limitednumber of refugees and then speedily sent them on to the Portuguese port ofLisbon. From there, thousands managed to sail tothe United States in 1940–1941, although thousands more were unable to obtainUS entry visas.


Displaced Persons After the War

After the war, hundreds of thousands ofsurvivors found shelter as displacedpersons in camps administered by the western Allies in Germany,Austria, and Italy. In the US, immigration restrictions were still in effect,although the Truman Directive of 1945, which authorized priority to be givenwithin the quota system to displaced persons, permitted 16,000 Jewish DPs toenter the US


Immigration to Palestine (aliyah) remainedseverely limited until the establishment ofthe State of Israel in May 1948. Thousands of Jewish displaced persons sought to enter Palestine illegally: between 1945 and 1948, the British authorities interned many of these would-beimmigrants to Palestine in detention camps on Cyprus.


With the establishment of Israel in May 1948,Jewish refugees began streaming into that new sovereign state. Some 140,000Holocaust survivors entered Israel during the next few years. The United Statesadmitted 400,000 displaced persons between 1945 and 1952. Approximately 96,000(roughly 24 percent) of them were Jews who had survived the Holocaust.


The search for refuge frames both the yearsbefore the Holocaust and its aftermath.


Reprinted with permission from the UnitedStates Holocaust Memorial Museum’s HolocaustEncyclopedia.


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Post time 14-1-2019 05:28 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Zaman ni sangat terkenal, pemimpinnya bermisai kontot..rendah tetapi sangat ditakuti

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Post time 14-1-2019 06:30 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
chesfa replied at 14-1-2019 03:59 PM
Benda ni macam butterfly effect, dengan pelbagai spekulasi about its beginnings, sama ada diseba ...

Wahh.. byk info baru tau.. thanks
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noor2 replied at 14-1-2019 03:58 PM
Soooo disturbing cerita ni.....sakit hati baca tahanan yg disiksa. ..

kak noor nak link pasal the pianist tu?tapi ada orang cakap movie tu bosan kak.
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Post time 14-1-2019 06:35 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Terima kasih tt... Banyaknya info n pengetahuan baru dpt hari ni..
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finn replied at 14-1-2019 06:35 PM
Terima kasih tt... Banyaknya info n pengetahuan baru dpt hari ni..

sama2.terima kasih pada cik .
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Kiah.comei replied at 14-1-2019 05:13 PM
Kiah pun wondering too, kenapa Jewish in Europe kena genocide?  is it because of Bahaya Yahudi as wr ...

baru habis baca good job kiah.
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KILL_NANCY replied at 14-1-2019 06:33 PM
kak noor nak link pasal the pianist tu?tapi ada orang cakap movie tu bosan kak.

Cerita kejam. ...tak maula. .....hehe
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MeghanK replied at 14-1-2019 06:41 AM
ooo ni citer dia..ok japg malam boleh baca

iols pon memang selama ni try nak pahamkan pasal hol ...

Ada benda tak faham boleh tanya TT post sini meg, kita sama2 bincangkan
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Kiah.comei replied at 14-1-2019 09:13 AM
Kiah pun wondering too, kenapa Jewish in Europe kena genocide?  is it because of Bahaya Yahudi as wr ...

Thank u kiah. Nobody knows the real reason. Nak exterminate all jews tu alasan saja. The Big Lie!

Yes, kena banyak membaca pasal benda ni. Luckily banyak documentasi pasal holocaust, ada memorials, museums lagi, compared to genocides kat tempat lain
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Post time 14-1-2019 08:07 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Edited by chesfa at 14-1-2019 12:10 PM
KILL_NANCY replied at 14-1-2019 10:37 AM
sama2.terima kasih pada cik .


Fraulein (bahasa jemen) tu maksud dia miss. Kesian budak tu, mati hidup balik jadi cik juga

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Edited by Qwerty007 at 14-1-2019 08:19 PM

Ada yang kata Hitler commit suicide kat  Führerbunker dengan ambik cyanide & tembak kepala dia. Tapi i penah tgk documentary bagitahu theories on how Hitler escaped himself and infact selamat.

[Escape to South America]
Though there are numerous variations on the narrative, the thrust of this conspiracy theory is outlined in Grey Wolf: The Escape of Adolf Hitler, a widely discredited book by Simon Dunstan and Gerrard Williams.


Hitler would have been dead months earlier had a German military plot to assassinate him proved successful.

Their account contests that Nazi funds, acquired by looting gold reserves and valuable art in occupied countries, were stockpiled to fund the Führer’s escape to Argentina – a plot that began to take shape when those around him came to accept that the war was almost certainly lost.

The plan utilised a U-boat, which transported Hitler and Eva Braun, who were extracted from Berlin via a secret tunnel, to Argentina, where Juan Peron’s support had already been established. Hitler supposedly lived out the rest of his days in a remote Bavarian-style mansion before passing away in February 1962.

Historyhit.com

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Post time 14-1-2019 08:10 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Saya share artikel pasal holokus dari dr MAZA, dari perspektif ilmuwan Islam

klik sini

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Post time 14-1-2019 08:12 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Edited by Qwerty007 at 14-1-2019 09:08 PM

Btw thread yang sangat menarik TT.
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