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[Dunia] Saintis Jerman temui punca blood clots dlm Astra dan JJ.Ada kaitan dgn potong n

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Post time 4-6-2021 12:10 PM | Show all posts
bloodyamuk replied at 4-6-2021 04:05 AM
pelik jugak kalau ada yang kata % yang mati atau kena blood clot ni sikit je berbanding ratusan ribu ...

Masaalah nya diaorang baca Harian Metro sis. Paham ke idok tu sample, statisic, actual data, chances and probablity.
I dun think so...

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Post time 4-6-2021 12:18 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
CiliPadiSedap replied at 4-6-2021 11:35 AM
309 tu manusia juga bukan haiwan. patutnya cari vaksin yang sesuai untuk certain group contoh high ...

Kann.. aku nak vksin mcm dolu dolu mcm polio laa campaklaa seko pun tak kiok..
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Post time 4-6-2021 12:19 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
monreyes replied at 4-6-2021 11:36 AM
orang kat luar bermati2an nak buat research psl vaksin and side effect...
tapi kat sini main tala j ...

Bila kita tanye terus mendpt antivakss..ayoyoo
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Post time 4-6-2021 12:23 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Buritan replied at 4-6-2021 12:19 PM
Bila kita tanye terus mendpt antivakss..ayoyoo

Kan ....wlpn kes terbukti wujud, doktor2 sini semua akan cakap yg mati kobid lg tinggi drpd kes clot. Eh, rare sekalipun, tu tetap nyawa org kot. Tak kene kt batang idung sendiri senangla cakap.

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Post time 4-6-2021 12:25 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
AstraZeneca pon patot tarik balik product la. Solve the problem, improve the vaccine then baru maufacture lain and replace
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Post time 4-6-2021 12:26 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
jahcomel replied at 4-6-2021 11:46 AM
Tpaksa lh Kita Cari info Dr luar..

I cari org2 senasib dgn I kt forum luar jugak. Rasa mcm takdela alone dlm hal ni dan bole juga tahu apa diagnose &  perkembangan side effects diorang lepas beberapa minggu. Nak harap doktor2 msia ni, suma nak rule out vaccine as penyebab.
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Post time 4-6-2021 12:27 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
kalchi replied at 4-6-2021 12:23 PM
Kan ....wlpn kes terbukti wujud, doktor2 sini semua akan cakap yg mati kobid lg tinggi drpd kes cl ...

Tu laaaa.  Terus ckp mati pasal kobik lg tinggi.. pak sedara aku punya takut cucuk smpai pengsan.. suspen jugak.. rupanya dia kabo sbb dia tertekan bylk sgt info.. tak tau yg mana satu betul.. so far pak sedara aku alhmdlh
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Post time 4-6-2021 12:30 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
kalchi replied at 4-6-2021 12:26 PM
I cari org2 senasib dgn I kt forum luar jugak. Rasa mcm takdela alone dlm hal ni dan bole juga tah ...

Sbb tu lh ramai y marah kt @blastoff sbb dia byk info
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Post time 4-6-2021 12:31 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Buritan replied at 4-6-2021 12:27 PM
Tu laaaa.  Terus ckp mati pasal kobik lg tinggi.. pak sedara aku punya takut cucuk smpai pengsan.. ...

Pakcik uols cucuk az? Nak tau jugak sesapa kt sini yg makpak/kenalan warga mas dia yg cucuk az ok tak. Tp ada dgr doktor kpj tu cakap effect kt warga tua tak sedashat ke atas org muda.
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Post time 4-6-2021 12:32 PM | Show all posts
jahcomel replied at 4-6-2021 11:44 AM
Kalu Kita pertikai Kita dtuduh x skolah Kak...

yg negara luar dah almost achieved herd community tu dorang quote lah...
yg kajian2 camni tutup sebelah mata...
orang luar pun masih x boleh terima kematian sebab vaksin...

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Post time 4-6-2021 12:36 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
jahcomel replied at 4-6-2021 12:30 PM
Sbb tu lh ramai y marah kt @blastoff sbb dia byk info

Info ni kdg kne amik tahu juga. Takdela main menyerah je badan tanpa tau risiko kan. Bukan nak paranoid sesaja.
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Post time 4-6-2021 12:39 PM | Show all posts
kalchi replied at 4-6-2021 12:31 PM
Pakcik uols cucuk az? Nak tau jugak sesapa kt sini yg makpak/kenalan warga mas dia yg cucuk az ok  ...

mende2 camni lah kita nak tau...
knp pula banyak affect orang muda...
adakah sebab mrk perokok/vape...
ada penyakit tapi x tau ke....etc etc...
mungkin atas sebab2 diatas, ada vaksin yg x sesuai...
tidaklah kita menyerah diri semata2....




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Post time 4-6-2021 12:41 PM | Show all posts
vector yg di gunakan kurang sesuai and trigger the wrong protein which lead to blood clot
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Post time 4-6-2021 12:42 PM | Show all posts
Buritan replied at 4-6-2021 12:18 PM
Kann.. aku nak vksin mcm dolu dolu mcm polio laa campaklaa seko pun tak kiok..

btol...mcm tu lah kita nak...
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Post time 4-6-2021 12:44 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
kalchi replied at 4-6-2021 12:26 PM
I cari org2 senasib dgn I kt forum luar jugak. Rasa mcm takdela alone dlm hal ni dan bole juga tah ...

hi uols..i baca haritu u kena vertigo after jab kan..kalau u ada fb boleh check page AstraZeneca Volunteers (Malaysia)..situ dorang ada discuss after effect..tua muda semua ada..get well soon
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Post time 4-6-2021 12:45 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
aku ade jumpa sorg ahli farmasi, dia antara yg perjuangkan klinik dan farmasi diasingkan. mcm kt oversea. tpi gomen malaysia x nk buat:lol
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Post time 4-6-2021 12:48 PM | Show all posts
TT - ini copy paste yg tak lengkap


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Post time 4-6-2021 12:55 PM | Show all posts
Edited by mbhcsf at 4-6-2021 01:32 PM

TT ada sambungan article ni  yg ceritakan the whole context dan atas dasar copyright copy paster tak leh tampal article bebetul bil ani terjadi ada konteks yg missing tapi berapa org pi ke web asal dan baca?


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ni sambungannnya


        But Marschalek believes there is a straight forward “way out” if the vaccine developers can modify the gene sequence that codes for the spike protein to prevent it splitting apart.

J&J had already contacted Marschalek’s lab to ask for guidance and was looking at ways to adapt its vaccine to prevent splicing, he said.

The instructions for the spike protein in the J&J shot were already less prone to “splicing” than the instructions for the spike protein in the AstraZeneca jab, making the reaction less common, according to Marschalek. In the US, eight of the 7.4m recipients of the J&J shot have reported the rare reaction.


“[J&J] is trying to optimise its vaccine

and that further evidence is needed to substantiate his claims.“There is evidence missing to show the causal chain from the splice . . . of the spike protein to the thrombosis events,” said Johannes Oldenburg, professor of transfusion medicine at the university of Bonn. “This is still a hypothesis that needs to be proven by experimental data.”Marschalek said he had presented his lab’s findings to the German government’s Paul-Ehrlich Institute and to the country’s advisory body on vaccination and immunisation.“They were surprised by our findings because no one was thinking about the splice problem,” he said.This story has been amended to clarify how the vaccine delivers the genetic instructions for the spike protein of Sars-Cov-2


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depa need more data  untuk tunjukkan mechanism yg specific dan jitu dan persis tentang bagaimana proses splicing/ pemotongan gene pre MRNA tu dalam proses post transcription pre mMRNA to mature mRNA tu menyebabkan thromosis atau pembekuan darah berlaku.

tapi baguslah depa dapat lead atau perkaitan , so kena tunggu more studies.

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Post time 4-6-2021 12:55 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
tipahketipung replied at 4-6-2021 11:43 AM
Dah ada alternatif tapi banyak yg bengap. Vaksin China konon low class. Tapi bila Iphone keluar be ...

Alternative lambat. Lagipun kerajaan dah beli lama. Xkan nak buang or sedekah. Kan bagus ramai volunteer.

300 kes per 300 juta person tu ibarat 1 per sejuta sahaja. Kalau ada 40 juta rakyat terima az. Lebih kurang 40 orang je probably mati sebab amik az.

Bayangkan kalau semua x amik. Sehari pun dah lebih seratus kematian.
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Post time 4-6-2021 12:58 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
kalchi replied at 4-6-2021 12:31 PM
Pakcik uols cucuk az? Nak tau jugak sesapa kt sini yg makpak/kenalan warga mas dia yg cucuk az ok  ...

Sinovac.. sorg lg cucuk pfizer.. almdlh ok..
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