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mengajar anak bertutur lebih dari satu bahasa

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Post time 6-9-2004 10:02 PM | Show all posts |Read mode
;) Saya nak bertanya pada yg berpengalaman cara utk mengajar anak faham lebih dari satu bahasa. My eldest daughter dah masuk 2thn...so far memang ajar dlm malay & english...dia boleh faham kedua2nya...tapi dia lebih minat bahasa melayu..sbb pengasuhnya memang cakap melayu 100%. Hairan jugak tengok toddler especially anak bangsa asing yg mahir lebih dr satu bahasa. So, kalau ada tips bantulah saya......
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Post time 6-9-2004 10:59 PM | Show all posts
For my daughter, I tengah ajar english jugak. Kalau yang ni pass it will be her 3rd language. First is malay and yang kedua is french. What I notice actually is that you have to keep on trying to talk to your daughter in english and maybe the father in malay so that she could make a different tone when someone talking to her in either language. Like me, I'll talked to my daughter in malay and ly hb in french. Walaupun her malay bercampur aduk dengan french at least bila kita cakap sesuatu dengan dia in malay she do understand cuma nak cakap balik susah sikit...Don't give up. Actually from age of 2 years old is the best age of language learning.
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Post time 6-9-2004 11:25 PM | Show all posts
Nak bagi tips tak tahu.Mungkin u boleh buat 'rule' macam ni di mana u  cakap satu bahasa dengan anak dan suami cakap satu bahasa yg. lain.Jangan nak campur-campur bahasa tu kalau Inggeris,biar Inggeris terus. Biar sebati bahasa tu dalam diri dia. Rasanya bahasa ni kita tak payah nak ajar sangat kat kanak-kanak nih,kalau selalu didedahkan,dan cuba bercakap nanti dia boleh sendiri.Biar saya bagi contoh dan dan dari sini kita boleh buat kesimpulan sendiri. Tapi contoh kanak-kanak Melayu  kat US la tentang penguasaan bahasa Melayu.
      Kelmarin jumpa sorang perempuan Bali dengan dua anak, 3th.dan 6th. tinggal kat us nih 3 th. Di rumah cakap Indonesia sepenuhnya. yg. 6 th gi sekolah boleh berbahasa inggeris dan Indonesia.Yg. 3 th. tak tahu Inggeris.
      Sorang lagi keluarga Melayu.Anak umur 11th. gi sekolah,lahirpun di sini,balik juga ke Malaysia kekadang, di rumah,ibubapa cakap Inggeris dan Melayu tapi anak tak mau cakap Melayu.Dia faham juga sikit-sikit tapi mungkin dia rasa susah nak sebut sebutan Melayu.
       Sorang lagi anak campuran Inggeris Melayu 11 th.,tak faham Melayu dan tak boleh bercakap Melayu.Kat rumah kedua ibu bapa cakap inggeris.
        Anak-anak saya pula yg. sulung 6th. boleh inggeris dan Melayu(karat la Melayu tu tapi ok la juga)..Lahir di Malaysia umur 11/2 th. baru balik sini.Waktu di Malaysia dia cakap Inggeris dan Melayu. Saya cakap Inggeris ngan dia,orang lain cakap Melayu. Bila datang sini, saya dan suami berbahasa Inggeris sepenuhnya, suasana keliling bahasa Inggeris,lama-lama dia lupa Melayu.Cuma cakap dalam talipon ngan saudara dia dlm Melayu sekali sekala,tupun lama kelamaan dia tak mau cakap Melayu. 6 bulan kemudian balik M'sia umur dia cukup 2 th. dia tak mau cakap Melatyu. Dia diam je. Sampai 3 hari gitu dia mula cakap Melayu sampai tak mau cakap Inggeris dah(3 bulan kat M'sia) kecuali bila cakap dengan saya atau ayah dia.
      Bila balik Us tu, bila dia sembang dalam talipon,dia cakap melayu ngan mak sedara, tapi lama lama berbulan bulan,hilang terus bahasa tu(tak pakai) .dia tak mau cakap Melayu walaupun dengan Mak sedara,dia diam.Bila mak s tu cakap Inggeris,baru dia mau sembang.
      Balik M'sia pula  9 bulan kemudian, proses macam dulu berulang kembali.sampai sekarang ulang alik setiap th.. dia macam "morph from one language to another" bergantung kepada suasana keliling. Sekarang ni pula dia ada kawan-kawan yg. bahasa ibunda Spanish dan Portuguese dan dia boleh cakap sikit-sikit bahasa tu.Saya suruh kawan dia cakap Spanish bila main ngan dia.
      Saya rasa bahasa Melayu ni ada dalam kepala dia tapi sebab kurang / tiada latihan,maka dia rasa kekok/susah nak keluarkan sebutan dan ayat Melayu.Bila masuk"sarang Melayu" baru jadi. Tapi dia baca Melayu lancar.
    Rasanya macam tu la juga kalau di M'sia di mana persekitaran Melayu(rumah,sekolah,kawan,tv) lebih dari Inggeris, maka bahasa utama(lebih selesa) kanak-kanak Melayu  ialah Melayu.Bangasa Cina dan India,diaorang kat rumah dah cakap bahasa ibunda dan Inggeris,pas tu persekitaran(sekolah,dll) Melayu,jadi cekap la lebih dari satu bahasa. Teruskan juga bercakap ngan anak  bahasa yg. u nak dia tahu insyaallah dia boleh nanti.
     Saya sekarang,dah tengok Melayu anak teruk,saya buat gini: waktu ajar dia Mukaddam dan agama,saya guna Melayu, Luar rumah saya cakap Melayu sepenuhnya( saya kata kat dia supaya orang tak faham apa kita cakap,senang nak cakap apa-apa pun),dia pun naik shok,langsung cakap Melayu.Kadang saya terlupa gi cakap Inggeris,dia kata,"mak kena cakap Melayu, nanti orang faham perbualan kita) Kat rumah pun kalau teringat saya cakap Melayu ngan dia walaupun agak susah sebab dah terbiasa gitu. Kalau ada Melayu lain baru rasa selesa cakap Melayu,tak tahu kenapa. Harap apa yg. saya tulis membantu juga serba sikit.
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Post time 7-9-2004 12:15 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by sucipanduri at 2004-9-6 10:02 PM:
;) Saya nak bertanya pada yg berpengalaman cara utk mengajar anak faham lebih dari satu bahasa. My eldest daughter dah masuk 2thn...so far memang ajar dlm malay & english...dia boleh faham kedu ...


For me, pembelajaran tu lebih mudah diingati
kalau diamalkan selalu dan suasanya tidak formal...
cthnya melalui percakapan..

Satu lagi..reading to your child is also good.
Like me when i was small..mama read to me everyday.
Lama-lama boleh hafal storybood english tu..
Walau satu apa pun tak faham, tapi kita familiar
dgn perkataan tu n lidah pun lembut nak menyebutnya...
So when the time comes for me to learn the meaning
of that word, it wasn't so hard sbb mmg ada dlm otak
dan nak menyebutnya pun mudah.

[ Last edited by Ice_Q on 11-9-2004 at 11:28 PM ]
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Post time 7-9-2004 01:08 AM | Show all posts
kanak2 memang cepat pick up....otak cergas...

bestnya kalau dapat ajar anak lebih dari satu bahasa kan?

seronok tau bila dengar kanak2 bertutur dalam bahasa2 asing..namapk cam pintar betul!
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Post time 7-9-2004 05:05 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Ice_Q at 7-9-2004 12:15 AM:


For me, pembelajaran tu lebih mudah diingati
kalau diamalkan selalu dan suasanya tidak formal...
cthnya melalui percakapan..

Satu lagi..reading to your child is also good.
Like me when i  ...



salam

me amalkan yg nie...ice Q tips!
one parent one language doesn't seem good for him bcos ..takde disiplin:cak:

me baca story book for him and make sure sebutan betul....sebut ulang-ulang...
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Post time 7-9-2004 08:35 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Calim閞o at 6-9-2004 23:59:
For my daughter, I tengah ajar english jugak. Kalau yang ni pass it will be her 3rd language. First is malay and yang kedua is french. What I notice actually is that you have to keep on trying to t ...


hmm....untung la you calimero cause both you and your husband boleh bertutur dalam bahasa asing.....

nashra rasa kalau kanak2 tu boleh pick up should be ok bila guna cara you ni...it's fun jugak...

at the same time, anak boleh rapat dgn kedua ibu bapanya secara tak langsung....
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Post time 7-9-2004 09:45 AM | Show all posts
OPOL..one parent one language...

actually anak anak ni, meka boleh picked up...cepat ... benar...

Could check lam board ni gak..under communciation or view this thread...

http://forum.cari.com.my/viewthread.php?tid=78226&fpage=3
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Post time 7-9-2004 10:50 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by nashra at 7-9-2004 01:08 AM:
kanak2 memang cepat pick up....otak cergas...

bestnya kalau dapat ajar anak lebih dari satu bahasa kan?

seronok tau bila dengar kanak2 bertutur dalam bahasa2 asing..namapk cam pintar betul!



betul tu nashra
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Post time 9-9-2004 12:00 AM | Show all posts
Itulah kiranya untung jugak anak Cali dapat bercakap dua bahasa, basically dia takda choice.  Masa balik kl awak tahun hari tu takut jugak dia tak dapat bercommunicate dengan sepupu dia. BUt to my surprise dia cakap melayu mengalahkan dah duduk kat Malaysia for years. So I realised, doesn't mean when she didn't reply back to me in malay she didn't understand, it just that she refused to use it since in France everybody talked to her in french. So sekarang ni I'm still talking to her in malay walaupun kekadang tu tersasul jugak cakap french dengan dia. Tunggulah nanti bila adik dia lahir nanti, macam mana pulak.

p/s: Belanga, jangan angkat bendera putih tau dalam mengajar anak ni, you will see the result later.....
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Post time 9-9-2004 02:19 AM | Show all posts
salam

mother tongue..tak boleh dipisahkan cali...my anak duduk 2 minggu boleh picked up jawa language.....me suka tapi tak paham..keh keh keh

and now..me nak balik raya nanti...me takut dia takde kawan sebab dia punya bahasa sekarang 80% english...tapi sebab mother tangue dah melayu..keh keh keh...mesti master punyalah!!...:cak:
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Post time 9-9-2004 10:21 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by my-alja at 9-9-2004 02:19 AM:
salam

mother tongue..tak boleh dipisahkan cali...my anak duduk 2 minggu boleh picked up jawa language.....me suka tapi tak paham..keh keh keh

and now..me nak balik raya nanti...me takut dia t ...



balik raya kat BP kaaa??? singgah la rumah laki aku.... heheheh

pasal language ni, bagi kita melayu ni mmg agak susah sikit... kalau takleh ajar dirumah bagi working mothers, kena cari kelas la... i sent my son and daughter kat satu kelas ni... dia guna kaedah Dale Canergie... mmg bagus gilerrrr... my 5yr old doter masa tu tak kenal 'word' either in Malay or English pun... bila pi second class, she could read the 'Peter and Jane' book!!! I was soooo amazed with her pencapaian.... abang lain citer la sbb dah sekolah .... sekarang pun dia baca jeeek buku English without difficulty.. kalau ada unfamiliar words, dia tanya we all... my mum pun impressed tul dng cucu pompuan dia nih... heheheheh....I like the teacher and class so much... susah nak cari yg setanding and i have not found one since the class has been closed... dorang nak concentrate teaching adults rather than kids...

i rasa repeated readings are the key... ice and alja.. betul yr kaedah tu!
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Post time 11-9-2004 11:39 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by my-alja at 2004-9-7 05:05 AM:



salam

me amalkan yg nie...ice Q tips!
one parent one language doesn't seem good for him bcos ..takde disiplin:cak:

me baca story book for him and make sure sebutan betul....sebut ulang ...


Elok kak alja..cara ini..ice dulu my mama
kata, setiap malam dia bacakan story books (english)
Sampai umur 3 tahun, ice hafal beberapa buku.
Bila relatives datang..terpegun derang tengok..
konon-konon budak kecik ni dah pandai membaca..
Padahal..hafal..dan buku tu pun dipegang
terbalik. Selepas tu bila dah besar, rasa mudah nak
ingat perkataan dan sebutan.

Compared to semasa di sekolah menangah..
belajar japanese- belajar di classroom and
ada a little bit of pressure kerana ada exam
n terpaksa menghafal..cheh..susah betul nak ingat..
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Post time 15-9-2004 04:49 PM | Show all posts
I rasa untuk anak-anak yang mix parents lagi banyak pressure (kiranya macam anak Cali) untuk belajar lebih dari satu bahasa. Kat sini okaylah kat sekolah 100 % in french, kat rumah it's up to parents. SO for my daughter since kat sekolah dia bertutur french why not kat rumah I talk to her in malay. Dalam masa yang sama I try selitkan english sepatah dua. Sekarang ni 1 - 5 boleh dia ingat, thank you, good night and adalah beberapa perkataan lagi. But I've read somewhere in local magazine here, said that for the mix kids eventhough they don't talked so early or refused to talked in other language but actually they registered in their brain and they'll used it only when needed. So I guess even kalau tak mix kids pun if we used this method (one parent one language) anak-anak can make the different between two. Anyway never too late to start second or third language! And it's depend on the parents too..kalau parents nak mengajar tentu anak akan terikut jugak nanti...
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Post time 13-10-2004 10:13 AM | Show all posts
I speak to my baby daugher in English & Malay & my hubby speaks to her in Chinese.  People say budak bilingual/trilingual ni lambat belajar bercakap cos dorang confused :stp:
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Post time 22-10-2004 03:40 PM | Show all posts
Memang betul tu Danielly, so jangan risau kalau anak you lambat cakap. Tapi once diorang bercakap your children will make you very surprise how good they are in those language...
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Post time 26-11-2004 04:59 PM | Show all posts
Well, hubby and me speak english to our 2 yr old son since he was born. My maid speak bahasa to him. Up till now, the only 'english' words that he can say is mummy, daddy, car,baby,ball, poo poo, wee wee, bo bo, (this is baby talk, i know   but still i'd like to think it's english), and in bahasa he can say bukak, pecah, kakak, tutup, minum. He still doesn't know how to form a simple sentence. But, I read somewhere that this is normal, so i'm not worried about that. Give me another 2 years, and I will tell you whether I've succeeded in training my son to be a bilingual.
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Post time 28-11-2004 03:48 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by monst_inc at 26-11-2004 08:59 AM:
Well, hubby and me speak english to our 2 yr old son since he was born. My maid speak bahasa to him. Up till now, the only 'english' words that he can say is mummy, daddy, car,baby,ball, poo poo, w ...



That's a very good start....and keep it up! And be consistent....your son will eventually dapat cakap Omputih. Tapi you must also be consistent in the use of the English language, jangan campur Melayu Omputih nanti your son pun lagi confused. Jangan la tanya "ni apa..?" and expect budak tu jawab in English. Anak I campur 3 bahasa...Melayu (Negeri slang) Arab (bapak) and English (kami tinggal di UK). Ok..English tu memang 'majority' lah. For the last 3 years kami duduk Saudi Arabia so cakap pun campur macam rojak like "Mummy, is my makan-lah khalas?" (Khalas = habis) and his favourite Malay word..."Tak Nak!" :ah: So...Good Luck!

Kalau ada Maisy Mouse Video/DVD (terbitan BBC UK) kat Malayisa bagus kalau you dapat beli for your son because not only it is educational but the English used is very good and clear and helps with pronounciation.
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Post time 29-11-2004 12:34 PM | Show all posts
Adis..cute pulak....lihat ur language tuh...

neeway agreed..consistent is the key factor....
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Post time 1-12-2004 08:56 AM | Show all posts
Macam gue plak

since i am a homemaker, gue ada sepenuh masa to teach/train my kids in english and my hubby talks to them sometimes in english and sometimes Malay to them.

what i can see is, my elder doter lebih cenderung berbahasa English but still baby talk i.e. wash, baby, let's go, 12345 etc coz dia jenis lambat bercakap, she is 2 yrs old now. But she could understand simple instruction in English i.e. wash your hands, wash your face, put on your shoes, take off your clothes, close the door etc etc . her 1 yr old sister, masih babbling words, tak sure lagi macammana her development.

Pasal Bahasa Malaysia tu, gue rasa depa will absorb bila depa start berkawan and bersekolah (provided kawan2 dan sekolah guna Malay lingo medium). Lagi pon, bila balik kampung, atuk and nenek pon ckp Melayu aje dgn cucu-cucu .

Gue tengok ramai kawan2 gue yang buat camni. Mula2 diorang nervous gak, kot laa their kids will have prob to mix and mingle around. but it turned out the kids had no problem at all. Actually, otak kanak2 cepat absorb benda2 baru
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