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Originally posted by aenemy7 at 28-11-2004 12:04 AM:
thricinosis worms?????maybe not debmey....pigs worm are different Debmey,go and ask ur nearest butcher, ask him about it.....:lol
Peace Yall.....
r u saying tania solium? beef also has tania saginata maaa....... ()INFO
then again, too much is no good 4 ur body....... eat more vegies laa..... can help to prevent intestinal & bowel cancer....... |
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Come visit me in Singapore for Christmas. I'll cook you char siew and babi sambal. Nobody cooks pork better than we Chinese do. After eating my babi sambal, you will surely agree that it is halal. |
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Originally posted by Debmey at 16-12-2004 11:27 PM:
Come visit me in Singapore for Christmas. I'll cook you char siew and babi sambal. Nobody cooks pork better than we Chinese do. After eating my babi sambal, you will surely agree that it is halal.
No thanks, it is forbidden for us to eat. It is up to you you want to eat or not, although Bible also make it forbidden for you. |
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http://www.beconvinced.com/RELIGION/PORK.htm
PORK! "You are what you eat" -American proverb
by Alyssa Samadi tzhre@tzhre.seanet.com
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In folkloric terms, eating the meat of the pig is said to contribute to lack of morality and shame, plus greed for wealth, laziness, indulgence, dirtiness and gluttony. We insult a person by calling him or her a "Pig" when they demonstrate these characteristics. Muslims are forbidden by God to eat the meat of the pig (pork). This is detailed in verses 2:173, 5:3, 6:145, and 16:115 of the
Qur'an. An exemplary verse is quoted here:
"He (Allah) has only forbidden you dead meat, and blood, and the flesh of swine, and any (food) over which the name of other
than Allah has been invoked. But if one is forced by necessity, without wilful disobedience, nor transgressing due limits,
then Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful."
Is Pork Forbidden to Muslims Only?
The Jews and Christians are also forbidden from eating pork. Here is a quote from the Old Testament to that effect: "And the swine, because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud, it is unclean unto you: ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcase." Deuteronomy 14:8 Many Christians believe that this verse was directed only at the Jews. But Jesus himself says during the Sermon on the Mount; "Think not that I am come to destroy the Law, or the Prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill." Some Christians say that, after a vision by St. Peter, God cleansed all animals and made them fit and lawful for human
consumption. If ALL animals are cleansed by Peter's vision, this includes dogs, cats, vultures, and rats: but you just don't see people getting excited about a cat-meat sandwich like they do over barbecued pork or bacon. Others say that it was Paul who rescinded the law forbidding pork to humans, in order to appease the Romans, who enjoyed the taste of pig-meat. Many excuses have been given, but none are very sound.
Many Far Eastern traditions also discourage the eating of pork. The 3,000 year old Confucian Book of Rites says, "A gentleman does not eat the flesh of pigs and dogs." Although many Chinese are avid eaters of pork today, physicians of ancient China recognized pork-eating as the root of many human ailments. Buddhists, Jains and Hindus usually avoid eating any kind of meat.
Bad effects of pork consumption
Pig's bodies contain many toxins, worms and latent diseases. Although some of these infestations are harbored in other animals, modern veterinarians say that pigs are far more predisposed to these illnesses than other animals. This could be because pigs like to scavenge and will eat any kind of food, including dead insects, worms, rotting carcasses, excreta (including their own), garbage, and other pigs.
Influenza (flu) is one of the most famous illnesses which pigs share with humans. This illness is harbored in the lungs of pigs during the summer months and tends to affect pigs and humans in the cooler months. Sausage contains bits of pigs' lungs, so those who eat pork sausage tend to suffer more during epidemics of influenza. Pig meat contains excessive quantities of histamine and imidazole compounds, which can lead to itching and inflammation; growth hormone, which promotes inflammation and growth; sulphur-containing mesenchymal mucus, which leads to swelling and deposits of mucus in tendons and cartilage, resulting in arthritis, rheumatism, etc. Sulphur helps cause firm human tendons and ligaments to be replaced by the pig's soft mesenchymal tissues, and degeneration of human cartilage. Eating pork can also lead to gallstones and obesity, probably due to its high cholesterol and saturated fat content. The pig is the main carrier of the taenia solium worm, which is found it its flesh. These tapeworms are found in human intestines with greater frequency in nations where pigs are eaten. This type of tapeworm can pass through the intestines and affect many other organs, and is incurable once it reaches beyond a certain stage. One in six people in the US and Canada has trichinosis from eating trichina worms which are found in pork. Many people have no symptoms to warn them of this, and when they do, they resemble symptoms of many other illnesses. These worms are not noticed during meat inspections, nor are they killed by salting or smoking. Few people cook the meat long enough to kill the trichinae. The rat (another scavenger) also harbors this disease. There are dozens of other worms, germs, diseases and bacteria which are commonly found in pigs, many of which are specific to the pig, or found in greater frequency in pigs.
Pigs are biologically similar to humans, and their meat is said to taste similar to human flesh. Pigs have been used for dissection in biology labs due to the similarity between their organs and human organs. People with insulin-dependent diabetes usually inject themselves with pig insulin. If you pour Coke (yes, the soda) on a slab of pork, and wait a little while, you will see worms crawl out of it.
Kindness to animals
Every creature was created by Allah for a purpose. The Prophet always encouraged being kind to animals. Although we should not eat the meat of the pig, it doesn't mean that we should hate pigs. We should show them the same kindness as any other animal, and not abuse or torture them. Pigs score high on tests devised to determine animal intelligence; in other words, they are very smart. It used to be that Europe people believed that pork would taste better if the pigs were kept in a state of filth, but this is not the natural inclination of the pig. When left to their own devices, it is said that pigs do not like to soil their sleeping
quarters. As for their tendency to wallow in mud, that is done mainly to keep cool.
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References:
Animals in Islam, by Al-Hafiz B.A. Masri,
Diet for a New America, by John Robbins,
Homotoxicology, by Dr. Hans-Heinrich Reckweg
Islamic Dietary Laws and Practices, by M.M. Hussaini, M.S. and A.H. Sakr, Ph.D.
Muslims in Alien Society, by Muhammad Samiallah
Allah Knows Best...
Peace Yall..... |
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Originally posted by kid at 2004-12-17 12:43 AM:
No thanks, it is forbidden for us to eat. It is up to you you want to eat or not, although Bible also make it forbidden for you.
The Bible does not forbid Gentiles from eating pork. Don't yu know?
Its not what yu eat that makes yu unclean but what comes out from your heart.
Thats what Jesus taught. |
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Originally posted by whitepig at 25-11-2004 06:40 PM:
racism element...? do u need glasses. or a lobotomy?
. i said blood in my noodle soup... wanna try some.
yucks!!!:puke: |
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Originally posted by Debmey at 17-12-2004 06:14 AM:
The Bible does not forbid Gentiles from eating pork. Don't yu know?
Its not what yu eat that makes yu unclean but what comes out from your heart. Thats what Jesus taught..
What I knew Bible clearly forbid man from eating swine.... and later on Jesus said that he come not to destroy the previous prophet teaching... so all man should obey that law, however if you have own interpretation it is your choice.
By the way.. in Islam human body is clean and pure in Islam, please dont mixed-up...if the food is unclean, eating that will not make someone 'unclean'. But Muslim do obey the law of God, whereas every creation has its own purpose, some to be consumed, and some not to be consumed such as swine.... |
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Both the Bible and the Qur抋n prohibit the eating of pork. Muslims are aware of this prohibition and observe it strictly.
However, most readers of the Bible say they do not know where they can find this in the Bible.
In the book of Leviticus, chapter 11, v. 7, it is recorded that God declares the pig to be unclean for believers. Then, in
verse 8, God says: 揧ou must not eat their meat or touch their carcasses; they are unclean for you |
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Why you muslims so confused.
We the followers of Jesus obey also the law of the jews.
For any christian who is born a jew, all JEWISH laws are binding on him.
For gentiles, that is me and all the other christians on this board WHO are born not jews, according to jewish laws, we need to follow only a fraction of the laws binding of a person born a jew.
Why?
Go read it up.
AS for pork, a jewish christian cannot eat pork, us gentiles can.
Any other question?
NIGHTLORD
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>>jewish christian ?? <<
jewish are not christians... there practice judaism ..what re you talking about??
the minority of jews who are christians? |
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kandang khinzir belambak kat N9 |
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Nah. Jesus did not say we need to avoid pork. Jesus taught that it is not what enters the mouth that makes a person unclean but what comes out from that person.
Jesus did not come to abolish teh law but has fulfilled it indeed. |
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Do some reading whitepig.
Christians are very much as jewish as the jews.
As Debmey has pointed out, Jesus said he has come to fulfil the scriptures and not change a single word of the law, ie Jewish law.
Guess who were the first christians, jews.
The only difference between a jew and a christian, is that the christians believe Jesus is the messiah.
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Don't forget, pork is haram too in Judaism. Even Truth doesn't consume pork b'coz it's clearly stated in the Bible. Any comments??? |
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oh it's so cute...
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Originally posted by Baiduri Othman at 2004-12-20 07:04 AM:
Don't forget, pork is haram too in Judaism. Even Truth doesn't consume pork b'coz it's clearly stated in the Bible. Any comments???
Didn't yu read the answer already? |
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" igs are biologically similar to humans, and their meat is said to taste similar to human flesh. Pigs have been used for dissection in biology labs due to the similarity between their organs and human organs. People with insulin-dependent diabetes usually inject themselves with pig insulin. If you pour Coke (yes, the soda) on a slab of pork, and wait a little while, you will see worms crawl out of it." :lol :lol
Allah Knows Best...
Peace Yall... |
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Thats a hoax. I tried it myself. Not only that, i tried vinegar and no worms came out.
See how silly this aenemy7 is? Its obvious he reads anything anti Christian and believes it w/o questioning. No wonder he can never stand by all his cut and pastes once yu challenge it. Hahahahahahahaha.................
The truth is, all those anti Christian stuff are used by muslim polemics meant to fool fellow Muslims and not for Christians because Muslims don't know the Bible.
cheers |
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y?
do we need to study the bible? we dont care about it.. |
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It's true debmey.....:lol :lol
Allah Knows Best...
Peace Yall.... |
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