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kyas

Originally posted by me at 2004-12-13 04:31 PM:
a question mark?

wasn't that muhammad that marry more than one women, i think 9 actually...

weren't your prophets also marry more than one woman...

because lots of the rape case by bomohs involve muslims bomoh....

babybueno

Originally posted by me at 13-12-2004 04:31 PM:


a question mark?

wasn't that muhammad that marry more than one women, i think 9 actually...

I think kyas not only talking about muhammad...you must remember solomon had many concubines.

Originally posted by kyas at 13-12-2004 04:42 PM:


weren't your prophets also marry more than one woman...

now no question mark...you are strange...

really? you mean muhammad...

babybueno

Originally posted by me at 13-12-2004 04:43 PM:
because lots of the rape case by bomohs involve muslims bomoh....

as far as im concerned...those muslims bomoh are not religious people. They are not a good example of true muslims for you to potray how bad is my religion!

Originally posted by babybueno at 13-12-2004 04:44 PM:


I think kyas not only talking about muhammad...you must remember solomon had many concubines.

concubines = wives ?

in what year did solomon live...?

in what year did jesus said those words...?

kyas

Bible says abraham had at least three wives, david married eight named wives, jacob married four named wives, moses married two wives...

read above post

kyas

i assume u have no answer

13Friday

Solomon and other prophets may have many wives and concubines,
they sin, but they tell others to do that.

Mohd approved polygamy possibly for the filthy rich cronies and others emulate for lust.

Jesus Christ also mention that the first marriage was in the Garden Eden.  read the Matthew verses again.

that is the physical and spiritual principle all in ONE for peaceful race - the human race.

aenemy7

Hopefully this article will help u all.....:ah:

http://www.allaahuakbar.net/misconceptions/index.htm

Why is a man allowed to have more than one wife in Islaam? i.e. why is polygamy allowed in Islam?

Answer.   
1. Definition of Polygamy   
Polygamy means a system of marriage whereby one person has more than one spouse. Polygamy can be of two types. One is polygyny where a man marries more than one woman, and the other is polyandry, where a woman marries more than one man. In Islaam, limited polygyny is permitted; whereas polyandry is completely prohibited.  
Now coming to the original question, why is a man allowed to have more than one wife?   

2. The Qur'鈔 is the only religious scripture in the world that says, "marry only one".   

The Qur'鈔 is the only religious book, on the face of this earth, that contains the phrase ‘marry only one’. There is no other religious book that instructs men to have only one wife. In none of the other religious scriptures, whether it be the Vedas, the Ramayan, the Mahabharat, the Geeta, the Talmud or the Bible does one find a restriction on the number of wives. According to these scriptures one can marry as many as one wishes. It was only later, that the Hindu priests and the Christian Church restricted the number of wives to one.   

Many Hindu religious personalities, according to their scriptures, had multiple wives. King Dashrat, the father of Rama, had more than one wife. Krishna had several wives.

In earlier times, Christian men were permitted as many wives as they wished, since the Bible puts no restriction on the number of wives. It was only a few centuries ago that the Church restricted the number of wives to one.

Polygyny is permitted in Judaism. According to Talmudic law, Abraham had three wives, and Solomon had hundreds of wives. The practice of polygyny continued till Rabbi Gershom ben Yehudah (960 C.E to 1030 C.E) issued an edict against it. The Jewish Sephardic communities living in Muslim countries continued the practice till as late as 1950, until an Act of the Chief Rabbinate of Israel extended the ban on marrying more than one wife.   

3. Hindus are more polygynous than Muslims   

The report of the ‘Committee of The Status of Woman in Islam’, published in 1975 mentions on page numbers 66 and 67 that the percentage of polygamous marriages between the years 1951 and 1961 was 5.06% among the Hindus and only 4.31% among the Muslims. According to Indian law only Muslim men are permitted to have more than one wife. It is illegal for any non-Muslim in India to have more than one wife. Despite it being illegal, Hindus have more multiple wives as compared to Muslims. Earlier, there was no restriction even on Hindu men with respect to the number of wives allowed. It was only in 1954, when the Hindu Marriage Act was passed that it became illegal for a Hindu to have more than one wife. At present it is the Indian Law that restricts a Hindu man from having more than one wife and not the Hindu scriptures.

Let us now analyse why Islam allows a man to have more than one wife.   

4. Qur'鈔 permits limited polygyny   

As I mentioned earlier, Qur'鈔 is the only religious book on the face of the earth that says ‘marry only one’. The context of this phrase is the following verse from Surah Nisa of the Glorious Qur’an:
"Marry women of your choice, two, or three, or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one." [Al-Qur'鈔 4:3]   

Before the Qur'鈔 was revealed, there was no upper limit for polygyny and many men had scores of wives, some even hundreds. Islam put an upper limit of four wives. Islam gives a man permission to marry two, three or four women, only on the condition that he deals justly with them.   

In the same chapter i.e. Surah Nisa verse 129 says: "Ye are never able to be fair and just as between women...." [Al-Qur'鈔 4:129]   

Therefore polygyny is not a rule but an exception. Many people are under the misconception that it is compulsory for a Muslim man to have more than one wife.  
Broadly, Islam has five categories of Do’s and Don’ts:  
(i) ‘Fard’ i.e. compulsory or obligatory   

(ii) ‘Mustahab’ i.e. recommended or encouraged   

(iii) ‘Mubah’ i.e. permissible or allowed   

(iv) ‘Makruh’ i.e. not recommended or discouraged

(v) ‘Haraam’ i.e. prohibited or forbidden

Polygyny falls in the middle category of things that are permissible. It cannot be said that a Muslim who has two, three or four wives is a better Muslim as compared to a Muslim who has only one wife.   

5. Average life span of females is more than that of males  
By nature males and females are born in approximately the same ratio. A female child has more immunity than a male child. A female child can fight the germs and diseases better than the male child. For this reason, during the paediatric age itself there are more deaths among males as compared to the females.   

During wars, there are more men killed as compared to women. More men die due to accidents and diseases than women. The average life span of females is more than that of males, and at any given time one finds more widows in the world than widowers.   

6. India has more male population than female due to female foeticide and infanticide   

India is one of the few countries, along with the other neighbouring countries, in which the female population is less than the male population. The reason lies in the high rate of female infanticide in India, and the fact that more than one million female foetuses are aborted every year in this country, after they are identified as females. If this evil practice is stopped, then India too will have more females as compared to males.   

7. World female population is more than male population In the USA, women outnumber men by 7.8 million. New York alone has one million more females as compared to the number of males, and of the male population of New York one-third are gays i.e sodomites. The U.S.A as a whole has more than twenty-five million gays. This means that these people do not wish to marry women. Great Britain has four million more females as compared to males. Germany has five million more females as compared to males. Russia has nine million more females than males. God alone knows how many million more females there are in the whole world as compared to males.   

8. Restricting each and every man to have only one wife is not practical   

Even if every man got married to one woman, there would still be more than thirty million females in U.S.A who would not be able to get husbands (considering that America has twenty five million gays). There would be more than four million females in Great Britain, 5 million females in Germany and nine million females in Russia alone who would not be able to find a husband.   

Suppose my sister happens to be one of the unmarried women living in USA, or suppose your sister happens to be one of the unmarried women in USA. The only two options remaining for her are that she either marries a man who already has a wife or becomes public property. There is no other option. All those who are modest will opt for the first.   

In Western society, it is common for a man to have mistresses and/or multiple extra-marital affairs, in which case, the woman leads a disgraceful, unprotected life. The same society, however, cannot accept a man having more than one wife, in which women retain their honourable, dignified position in society and lead a protected life.  

Thus the only two options before a woman who cannot find a husband is to marry a married man or to become public property. Islam prefers giving women the honourable position by permitting the first option and disallowing the second.   

Polygamy solves the problem of adultery among men, who by nature are polygamous, or are not happy with their wives, It prevents the prevalence of AIDS and other similar diseases arising from illicit sexual relations among people of loose morals.

It minimizes divorce as men are given the option to marry other women of their choice without divorcing their present wives. This subsequently, prevents the occurrence of juvenile delinquencies among children of broken families.

Furthermore, polygamy gives the opportunity for more unmarried women to be married, considering the fact that women exceed men in number. This in turn eliminates fornication and prostitution, thus greatly reducing the number of children born out of wedlock. Unfortunately, children born out of wedlock are being ostracized in the same way as their mothers are being look down by the society. In polygamy, children are recognized as legal offspring of their fathers just as their mothers are respected as legally married women.

There are several other reasons, why Islaam has permitted limited polygyny, but it is mainly to protect the modesty of women.



Allah Knows Best...
Peace Yall...

13Friday

If the Koran says so then Muslims stop all polygamy NOW.

they even leagalised it saying for the filthy rich and the poor also follow that in lust.


The Bible never authorise POLYgamy.

Adam and eve in a single marriage.

see how the Muslims define marriage in polygamy

13Friday

If the Koran says so then Muslims stop all polygamy NOW.

they even leagalised it saying for the filthy rich and the poor also follow that in lust.


The Bible never authorise POLYgamy.

Adam and eve in a single marriage.

see how the Muslims define marriage in polygamy

13Friday

http://forum.cari.com.my/viewthr ... ge=1&sid=KWjiIY


posted there

Originally posted by kyas at 13-12-2004 05:03 PM:
i assume u have no answer

like i said earlier...when did they live...

babybueno

Muslims nowadays still practise polygamy in order to avoid sin. mostly christian men have single marriage but they are not  loyal husbands, some of them have mistresses especially those rich chinese men. What do you think of that scenario?

Muslims nowadays still practise polygamy in order to avoid sin.

but they still have mistresses...especially the rich and important people...

mostly christian men have single marriage but they are not  loyal husbands, some of them have mistresses especially those rich chinese men.

mostly muslim men have more than one wife but they are not loyal husbands, some of them have mistresses especially those rich muslim men.

babybueno

but they still have mistresses...especially the rich and important people...

mostly muslim men have more than one wife but they are not loyal husbands, some of them have mistresses especially those rich muslim men.

Those men are not a good example of true muslims. A true muslim will never commit with any sin or do bad deeds. unlike christians who believe whenever they confess making sin they think they are no longer sinful but in islam we never know whether our god will forgive for the sinful thing we've done.

unlike christians who believe whenever they confess making sin they think they are no longer sinful

really? and you know this because you confess before?

babybueno

really? and you know this because you confess before?

i knew about this from my american internet friend who told me that he became athiest because he didnt believe that a priest has a right to forgive someone when that person makes confession.