MO was not illiterate as claimed by muslims

Debmey

You see, Muslims cannot answer to simple logical questions abt the Quran.

Kennkid cut and pasted something that is totally irelevant to NightLord's question.

I guess the islamic camp is just totally defenceless when it comes to the authenticity of the Quran.

snipersnake

Originally posted by Debmey at 10-1-2005 09:55 PM:
You see, Muslims cannot answer to simple logical questions abt the Quran.

Kennkid cut and pasted something that is totally irelevant to NightLord's question.

I guess the islamic camp is just ...

hey deb..if the muslims are defenceless about the authencity of the quran..y did america create al furqan

Debmey

All i know is, yu fellas can't defend the Quran here. period.

Originally posted by Debmey at 2005-1-11 05:36 PM:
All i know is, yu fellas can't defend the Quran here. period.

All I know is you always end up saying that when you have no other words to say and when you have been beaten flat and have only the bubbles of your dirty saliva to defend the bible. Period.

Debmey

Nope, we askled logical questions concerning the authenticity of the Quran and musllims cut and paste without answering to these simple questions.
It shows that muslims are stumbled by these simple questions.

nightlord

NO ITS BECAUSE THEY DONT UNDERSTAND IT THEMSELVES.

And they think thus that it must be ..........deeeeeeeeeep.:cak:

snipersnake

nope..i understand it..

so deb, what was the bible's original language?

nightlord

Hey sniper if you can understand the Quran only in Bahasa Malaysia, and not Arabic.

What does it matter what language the bible was originally in.

Duh...............

Do I sense a fear here? How can anyone even begin to judge with the best of judgements when one's  knowledge is from 'the other side of  the fence'? Enter the arena first and then discover. The first step is to learn Arabic and then hold discussions with Muslims who are fluent in the Qur'an in knowledge as well as linguistically. Otherwise remain silent because (excuse me for saying this), you're not qualified to comment on the Arabic language viz-a-viz The Qur'an..

Fear? What do you mean? Explain and elaborate.

How can anyone even begin to judge with the best of judgements when one's  knowledge is from 'the other side of  the fence'? Enter the arena first and then discover

The differences between Islam and Christianity is, as I understand it, that Islam being a religion of reason and in fact, Ahmed Deedat did say a few times that it is through logic that Muslims may be able to 'persuade' Christians about Islam.

This process, should it be true, does NOT involve people 'over the other side of the fence'. It is a simple matter of secular reasoning and most people are trained in their everyday lives to employ secular reasoning.

Christianity, on the other hand, of course includes reasoning but the simple understanding of what is said about God's Word comes through the Spirit. It is much more a spiritual approach and therefore, it should be instead the Christians' view that you cannot 'judge' Christianity when you are 'over the other side of the fence'.

Yeah, I know that when faced with a barrage of difficult questions, the tendency would be to stated how the other person does not know Arabic and hence limited understanding etc etc. Such is the rigidity of supposedly Allah's word. Anyway, I choose to 'talk' rather than silent and anyhow, I'm sure there are people around in this forum that will respond anyway

snipersnake

Originally posted by nightlord at 11-1-2005 05:54 AM:
Hey sniper if you can understand the Quran only in Bahasa Malaysia, and not Arabic.

What does it matter what language the bible was originally in.

Duh...............

well i find no answer here..


u know why the quran is in arabic??its a way to preserve its authenticity..as for deb's sig..hahaha..i think he cant differentiate between a translation and version..he claimed he has three..hahaha..there.. if u dont know donnt simply say..

ashna

with qoran in its original language, we can always check and compare the translation so that the meaning is not lost. isn't it simple to think? why make it so complicated?

Debmey

Originally posted by snipersnake at 2005-1-12 12:31 AM:


well i find no answer here..


u know why the quran is in arabic??its a way to preserve its authenticity..as for deb's sig..hahaha..i think he cant differentiate between a translation and ve ...

neither can muslims tell a version from a translation.
There are many versions of translations of the Bible, but only one version of the Bible, the Textus Receptus.

Debmey

Originally posted by ashna at 2005-1-12 01:00 AM:
with qoran in its original language, we can always check and compare the translation so that the meaning is not lost. isn't it simple to think? why make it so complicated?

We too can always check the Bible for its meaning from its original language.
Thats why there is something call the Bible concordance.

is it ashna that says, the koran has one version but many different interpretation...?

Debmey

no, there are truely diffrent versions of the Quran. The most common ones are the Hafs and Warsh versions.

ashna

Originally posted by Debmey at 12-1-2005 08:53 AM:
no, there are truely diffrent versions of the Quran. The most common ones are the Hafs and Warsh versions.

oohh salute, so you know more about qoran than muslims?? ;):puke:

Originally posted by Debmey at 12-1-2005 08:53 AM:
no, there are truely diffrent versions of the Quran. The most common ones are the Hafs and Warsh versions.

Oooo let's confuse Debmey more.  Can you tell the difference of tajweed's in these "versions"?  What about the other 2 tajweeds?  How did they come about?  What was the origin?

Debmey

they came abt because muslims are unsure which is the original version

Originally posted by Debmey at 2005-1-12 11:08 AM:
they came abt because muslims are unsure which is the original version

Debmey the nut's attempt at psychology - only making himself 'nuttier' than ever. Thats the outcome of making fun of God's words.

Debmey

yu see, muslims are stuck again, thats why kennkid curse.