[MERGED]-Debmey: SHOW PROOF THAT PROPHET MOHAMMAD IS A PAEDOPHILE?

Fuzzman

Debmey wrote:We are saying that mo was  a proven paedophile by having sex with a 9 year old girl, it doesn't matter whether they were married or not.

We? You mean you and your self-created nicks I presume? Man just look at the bias oozing from Debbo? Paedophilia sufferers seldom marry their victims - simply because they have no intent to do so as their socially sigmatised condition works them a pattern where they need to replenish the need - or shall I say- the urge to either obtain or secure "new meat" quickly. Paedophilia sufferers often carry on in their "quest" in "chain continuity" and never on a need to do so basis, as their urges are rampant and frenzy.This condition is not a quality found in Prophet Mohammad.

Allah works in mysterious ways. Never forget that a huge part of the revelations given to Prophet Mohammad were well kept in memory by Aisyah as she had the gift of clear memory. Just as Mohammad was chosen as the intended Comforter of the OT, so too was Aisyah with the final Revelations, as after the passing of Prophet Mohammad, Aisyah was instrumental in passing on the Revelations to the Arab world.

One last point in quoting Debmey's favorite source:-
Bukhari vol. 5, #234 : Then she took me into the house.  There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's blessing and a good luck."

So what does the passage above tell you Debbo? Would tribal women be party to a paedophile's lust too? LOL

ARI FUZZMAN

Debmey

Aisha didn't have a choice. That extreme paedophilia.

aenemy7

But Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) did married Aisha legally right????:lol ,so there's no such thing as phaedophile....young marriage is common in that time and also fix marriage which still in practice in India!!! the fact was Aisha is fit to married the prohet muhammad at 9 just like the thai girl case!!!!! Aisha is one of the those  important women in the history of islam,she got direct guidance from the prohet muhammad(pbuh) himself and also she was very smart in terms of syariah law!!!!


Please go to this websites and see for yourself the relation of pornography and the bible, the terms used maybe explicit but that's the best way to understand the relations....

http://www.postfun.com/pfp/NC-17Bible.html


Allah Knows Best,Peace Yall.....

Fuzzman

Originally posted by Debmey at 2005-2-17 03:24 PM:
Aisha didn't have a choice. That extreme paedophilia.

Deb-nial will get you nowhere. LOL You still cannot provide proofs of the prophet being a paedophile. Talking will do you no good my fren.

Why Aisyah was the CHOSEN CONSORT of the prophet? Read here my Los Lobos preacher fren.
http://64.233.183.104/search?q=c ... ri++women&hl=en

El saida. Aisha bent Abu baker

She is Mrs. Aisha bent Abu Bakr.

She was one of the wives of our Prophet (PBUH), she was the most jurists of the ladies of Muslims and she knew most about Koran and prophetic narrations.

Mrs. Aisha was born in Mecca in 8th year before migration, ourProphet (PBUH) loved her so much, she said that our prophet loved her and her father, she is considered to be one of the most jurist and clever women in her age about Koran and narrations, their explanation, doctrine; she was always consulted by the friend of our Prophet (PBUH) when they me a problem, they found a lot of knowledge with her more than any other jurist, that she was considered be like a teacher between his students.

When ever one of the Muslim scientist got confused about a certain subject, he consult her, she was famous by correcting the information of scientist in showing more and more information and this is due to :

    * Her intelligence and strong memory.
    * She was brought up in the house of prophecy
    * Her love to knowledge, that she always asked the Prophet (PBUH) and inquired about different subjects, as a result she became destination for scholars

Mrs. Aisha followed up an exalted approach in teaching people, for instance: she followed up the scientific method and was always patient during explanation of doctrine She had a great role in teaching the Muslim woman and revealing a lot of instructions. And one of the reasons is being brought up on the principles of Islam and Koran that she always asked the Prophet (PBUH) about the meaning of koranic verses . And memorize it in her mind, which she shared in binding the Koran after the death of the Prophet (PBUH); she used to figure out the koranic verses that relate them to each other Mrs. Aisha flattened the way to upcoming ones to understand Koran, she narrated a lot of narrations, she was exalted by hearing them from the Prophet (PBUH) directly, some of narrators used to makesure about the prophetic narrations they memorized from her, whenever they disagreed with each other they seeked for decision from her.

She died of about 66 years old after she had carved in the doctrine, social and political life of Muslims; she narrated few thousands of prophetic narrations. And so, we find out that she had a great grace upon all Muslims, jurists, scholars. The woman nearest to the Prophet (PBUH) took a lot of knowledge of him and availed the whole nation.

Commentary:

She was a wife of the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), she lived many years with him, during that period she learned a lot from the Prophet (PBUH); this is beside her curiosity and intelligence which made her think about a lot of things related to religion, ask the Prophet (PBUH) about them and that served the Islamic jurisprudence a lot.

By the way, she became the first teacher in Islam who taught a lot of men and women, she taught them the doctrines of their religion, Koran, Sunna (rubrics of the Prophet (PBUH)), jurisprudence and other branches of Islamic sciences. She taught a lot of people who had a great role in the Islamic civilization and Islamic society. She participated in gathering prophetic traditions (Hadith) and Koran.

She also was characterized by modesty, she was learning until she died despite knowing more than any other woman. She is a symbol of a young woman who taught a whole civilization that the Prophet (PBUH) died when she was 18, she lived 48 years after the prophet's death teaching the Muslims.

The above for those who need to know who is Aisyah and what her life represents.

ARI FUZZMAN

Debmey

What we have established is that Mo first showed interest in a 6 year old baby and then had sex with her when she was only 9 years old. Thats paedophilia whether they were married or not.

Was Aisha smart? I doubt so. She simply narrated stories like your old grandma told stories. Did she take part in compiling the Quran? Not a chance. Aisha was put under house arrest until she died, barren and never allowed to marry again.

aenemy7

:lol :lol :lol, The Question is wasn't  Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) didn't married Aisha legally? are sex after marriage illegal in any religion????
:hmm: :hmm: :hmm:


Allah Knows Best,Peace Yall....

Debmey

Aisha was married into a paedophile relationship with Mo. Poor Aisha, she became barren after that and developed psychological problems and eneded up house arrest from 18 till 66.

peace

Originally posted by Debmey at 2005-2-17 04:09 PM:
Aisha was married into a paedophile relationship with Mo. Poor Aisha, she became barren after that and developed psychological problems and eneded up house arrest from 18 till 66.

peace

May God forgive you for being so fooled by satan, Debmey. May God forgive you being so ill-hearted that you invent so much lies and deceit just to satisfy your lust for argument and a sense of 'winning' to satisfy your sick paulean ego. You are only fooling your own self.  I pity those who believe you.

Aisha lived on almost fifty years after the passing away of the Prophet . She had been his wife for a decade. Much of this time was spent in learning and acquiring knowledge of the two most important sources of God's guidance, the Qu'ran and the Sunnah of His Prophet . Aisha was one of three wives (the other two being Hafsah and Um Salama) who memorized the Revelation. Like Hafsah, she had her own script of the Qu'ran written after the Prophet  had died.

So far as the Hadits or sayings of the Prophet  is concerned, Aisha is one of four persons (the others being Abu Hurayrah, Abdullah ibn Omar, and Anas ibn Malik) who transmitted more than two thousand sayings. Many of these pertain to some of the most intimate aspects of personal behaviour which only someone in Aisha's position could have learnt. What is most important is that her knowledge of Hadits was passed on in written form by at least three persons including her nephew Urwah who became one of the greatest scholars among the generation after the Companions.

Many of the learned companions of the Prophet  and their followers benefited from Aisha's knowledge. Abu Musa al-Ashari once said: "If we companions of the Messenger of God had any difficulty on a matter, we asked Aisha about it."

Her nephew Urwah asserts that she was proficient not only in fiqh but also in medicine (tibb) and poetry. Many of the senior companions of the Prophet  came to her to ask for advice concerning questions of inheritance which required a highly skilled mathematical mind. Scholars regard her as one of the earliest fuqaha of Islam along with persons like Omar ibn al-Khattab, Ali and Abdullah ibn Abbas. The Prophet  referring to her extensive knowledge of Islam is reported to have said: "Learn a portion of your religion (din) from this red collared lady." "Humayra" meaning "Red-coloured" was an epithet given to Aisha by the Prophet .


Aisha not only possessed great knowledge but took an active part in education and social reform. As a teacher she had a clear and persuasive manner of speech and her power of oratory has been described in superlative terms by al-Ahnaf who said: "I have heard speeches of Abu Bakr and Omar, Othman and Ali and the Khulafa up to this day, but I have not heard speech more persuasive and more beautiful from the mouth of any person than from the mouth of Aisha."

Men and women came from far and wide to benefit from her knowledge. The number of women is said to have been greater than that of men. Besides answering enquiries, she took boys and girls, some of them orphans, into her custody and trained them under her care and guidance. This was in addition to her relatives who received instruction from her. Her house thus became a school and an academy.

Some of her students were outstanding. We have already mentioned her nephew Urwah as a distinguished reporter of Hadits. Among her women pupils is the name of Umrah bint Abdur Rahman. She is regarded by scholars as one of the trustworthy narrators of Hadits and is said to have acted as Aisha's secretary receiving and replying to letters addressed to her. The example of Aisha in promoting education and in particular the education of Muslim women in the laws and teachings of Islam is one which needs to be followed.

After Khadija al-Kubra (the Great) and Fatima as-Zahra (the Resplendent), Aisha as-Siddiqah (the one who affirms the Truth) is regarded as the best woman in Islam. Because of the strength of her personality, she was a leader in every field in knowledge, in society, in politics and in war. She often regretted her involvement in war but lived long enough to regain position as the most respected woman of her time. She died in the year 58 AH in the month of Ramadan and as she instructed, was buried in the Jannat al-Baqi in the City of Light, beside other companions of the Prophet .

http://www.ancient-history.nl/Is ... nt%20Abu%20Bakr.htm

Truth.8

does any of muslims forummer wonder what would your feeling giving their own  daughter age 6 to an 52 old men for marriage???

as muslims says " Allah Knows Best,Peace Yall"

Truth.8

does any of muslims forummer wonder what would your feeling giving their own  daughter age 6 to an 52 old men for marriage???

as muslims says " Allah Knows Best,Peace Yall"

Originally posted by Truth.8 at 2005-2-17 05:21 PM:
does any of muslims forummer wonder what would your feeling giving their own  daughter age 6 to an 52 old men for marriage???

as muslims says " Allah Knows Best,Peace Yall"

Let Syedina Abu Bakr answer that for you on your hours before your death. But I don't think you deserve his visit. Only satan :devil: will be your companion  before you are buried in your grave, as he is your companion now and as he will be your companion in the next world.

Abu Bakr was the Prophet Mohammed's closest companion and adviser, and the first to embrace Islam. His prominence in the community was enhanced by the prophet's  marriage to his daughter A'ishah and also when Abu Bakr was the prophet's companion on the journey to Medina in 622.

http://www.hyperhistory.com/onli ... ersons4_n2/abu.html

[ Last edited by KENNKID on 17-2-2005 at 05:38 PM ]

Truth.8

Originally posted by KENNKID at  05:33 PM:


Let Syedina Abu Bakr answer that for you on your hours before your death. But I don't think you deserve his visit. Only satan :devil: will be yo ...

then perhaps u can  offer u daughter when she is 6 yrs old to an 52 yr old men for marriage.

or maybe u can married 6 yrs old girl as ur future wife;)

Originally posted by Truth.8 at 2005-2-17 05:45 PM:



then perhaps u can  offer u daughter when she is 6 yrs old to an 52 yr old men for marriage.

or maybe u can married 6 yrs old girl as ur future wife;)

You offer your daughter to paul....ooops..he was gay.

Truth.8

Originally posted by KENNKID at  05:46 PM:


You offer your daughter to paul....ooops..he was gay.

at least we hve proof mo married 6 yrs old girl
what proof u hve to called paul gay??

dont judge others as u will be judge .....maybe u are gay;)

Originally posted by Truth.8 at 2005-2-17 05:51 PM:



at least we hve proof mo married 6 yrs old girl
what proof u hve to called paul gay??

dont judge others as u will be judge .....maybe u are gay;)

All the proof you need. Ask the gay priests and clergies.

("A man is better off having no relations with a woman." 1 Cor. 7:1.)" -written by paul.

and yes...he contradicted himself later as he contradicts himself again and again all over the NT of your biblos (greek for book, the original word for bible, a word not found in the bible, except on its cover.)

[ Last edited by KENNKID on 17-2-2005 at 06:09 PM ]

Truth.8

Originally posted by KENNKID at  06:00 PM:
All the proof you need. Ask the gay priests and clergies.

("A man is better off having no relations with a woman." 1 Cor. 7:1.)" -written by paul.

and yes...he contradicted himself later as he contradicts himself again and again all over the NT of your biblos (greek for book, the original word for bible, a word not found in the bible, except on its cover.)
...

just because they which mostly frm RC background commited that act, is Paul gay??

seems u brain need check up:ketuk:

Seraphim

Originally posted by KENNKID at 17-2-2005 06:00 PM:


All the proof you need. Ask the gay priests and clergies.

("A man is better off having no relations with a woman." 1 Cor. 7:1.)" -wri ...

1 Corinthians

1
1 2 3 Now in regard to the matters about which you wrote: "It is a good thing for a man not to touch a woman,"
2
but because of cases of immorality every man should have his own wife, and every woman her own husband. 3
The husband should fulfill his duty toward his wife, and likewise the wife toward her husband.
4
A wife does not have authority over her own body, but rather her husband, and similarly a husband does not have authority over his own body, but rather his wife.



This didnt even explained anything about St Paul being gay..Instead it explained that men and women are equal...:pray:

PS:-I guess you usually read your books partially..Hey try reading it fully so that you dont make yourself looked like a dumbo...

Fuzzman

Debmey wrote: What we have established is that Mo first showed interest in a 6 year old baby and then had sex with her when she was only 9 years old. Thats paedophilia whether they were married or not.

As far as Fuzzman can sight and judge your abilities here, we can safely establish beyond reasonable doubt that you cannot provide anything at all to show that Prophet Mohammad was a paedophile. Let society judge Prophet Mohammad for what is accused of him, by them in history and on record - not from a lowly illiterate polemic reject like you who knows only to quote Bukhari.

Whle you quote Bukhari in earnest and total despair, you forget that what you quoted in your quest to make your case has in fact worked positively towards Prophet Mohammad and not otherwise.

In Bukhari vol. 5, #234 which speaketh : Then she took me into the house.  There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's blessing and a good luck."

Do you know anything about Ansari women?

ARI FUZZMAN

Truth.8

Originally posted by Seraphim at  06:46 PM:


1 Corinthians

1
1 2 3 Now in regard to the matters about which you wrote: "It is a good thing for a man not to touch a woman,"
2
but because of cases of immoral ...

yet he claimed he was Christians before and studying in Australia in Christians teachings.

Kennkid is really liar

greekgod

Originally posted by Debmey at 17-2-2005 09:22 AM:
We know thet GG doesn't know Mohd nor read teh hadiths.

peace

wow... debmey is really GOD!

he know what my past, present and future!

good work, deb... dont be a laughing stock to others!