siapa buddha

anyon996

Originally posted by naiza at 16-10-2006 09:21 AM

maha suci ALLAH, dia adalah TUHAN sekian alam,

dialah pencipta alam ini dan semua makhluk ...

maksud kau pun..
hanya islam adalah benar sja..
sekira pemikiran sempit kau yg masih belum membuka,
i rasa orang yang paling tak maju dan akan mengakibatkan pergaduhan saja..
kalo u tak respec orang,u ingat orang akan respec u ke??!!

Originally posted by naiza at 16-10-2006 09:23 AM

tuhan sebenar, tidak akan MATI

U R totally wrong , my fren.

tuhan & dewa are the same meaning as GOD.

God same meaning as Deva.

All Deva had a lifespan including wat u so called Tuhan. They will die but we wont know when , coz their lifespan years r lots different &           longer.

Wat we shud learn is to accept that we shud get out of suffering and to get out of suffering is to understand teaching of Buddha.
To end suffering is not just making Vows and prays , there are still alots of things to be done...........

try to look out some of the teaching of Buddha then u will know wat I'm trying to say about.

ariyamusafir

Originally posted by naiza at 16/10/2006 09:21

maha suci ALLAH, dia adalah TUHAN sekian alam,

dialah pencipta alam ini dan semua makhluk ...

Saudara, ini adalah kepercayaan musliman dan muslimin dan kita yang tidak menganut agama Islam, tidak terima, tidak percaya, tetapi HORMAT terhadap kepercayaan mu. Diharapkan saudara juga menghormati kepercayaan kita dan JANGAN saudara datang sini cuba mendapatkan beberapa orang menukar agama mereka kepada agama mu secara paksa!

ariyamusafir

Originally posted by naiza at 16/10/2006 09:23

tuhan sebenar, tidak akan MATI

Oleh itu, dalam agama Buddhisma, tiada Tuhan yang maha berkuasa pencipta segala-galanya. Perkataan Tuhan ini merupakan satu definisi yang diberi oleh golongan tertentu, yang memberi makna kepada sesuatu yang ingin di beritahu. Untuk orang yang menganuti agama samawi Tuhan + maha-berkuasa pencipta segala-galanya. Untuk agama Buddha, Tuhan = deva yang juga akan mati satu hari nanti.

rurouni_khairul

Originally posted by anyon996 at 22-10-2006 12:17 AM



maksud kau...
ajaran agama buddha adalah sesat ke???????
SEKIRANYA BEGITU KENAPA RASULLAH NABI MUHAMMED BOLEH MATI??
KENAPA JESUS BOLEH MATI??!!

JANGAN LAH BUAT ORANG TERSINGGUNG K!!
...

Maaf la kalau tersinggung..tapi saya rase bukan itu maksud die..maybe he over-reacted.

Muhammad SAW dan Jesus (Isa a.s.) adalah messenger from God and not God itself.

Muslims only worship God, the everlasting.

But it dosen't necessarily mean that you're worng.

Like the teaching of Buddha, you need to think and since you think that Buddha is correct than its correct for you. Fair enough?

sazeryus

Originally posted by anyon996 at 22-10-2006 12:17 AM



maksud kau...
ajaran agama buddha adalah sesat ke???????
SEKIRANYA BEGITU KENAPA RASULLAH NABI MUHAMMED BOLEH MATI??
KENAPA JESUS BOLEH MATI??!!

JANGAN LAH BUAT ORANG TERSINGGUNG K!!
...

nabi Muhammad tu bukannye tuhan ..ada paham ka...?????
nabi Isa tu  bukan nye tuhan ...hanya agama kristian je anggap dia tu macam tuhan...

macam mane plak tuhan boleh mati ????? kalau tuhan u mati......
macam mane anda boleh diciptakan?????

kalau tuhan u mati nanti amalan penganut buddha ,,,
sape yang hitung untuk tentukan siapa masuk syurga / neraka????

[ Last edited by  sazeryus at 24-2-2007 08:47 AM ]

twinstar

Originally posted by ariyamusafir at 24-7-2005 07:57 PM
Buddha bukannya tuhan. Dalam Buddhisma, tuhan-tuhan juga akan mati satu hari nanti. Ada lahir, mesti ada kematian. Kita semua akan lahir semula dan mati, lahir dan mati. Hanya tidak dilahir semul ...

:setuju:  even Albert Einstein once said that Buddhism is the most PRACTICLE belief which can be seen and experimented!

birth-old-death ( and pain and suffering in btw) Buddha said that birth and death is the circle of life.

twinstar

Originally posted by sazeryus at 24-2-2007 08:32 AM


nabi Muhammad tu bukannye tuhan ..ada paham ka...?????
nabi Isa tu  bukan nye tuhan ...hanya agama kristian je anggap dia tu macam tuhan...

macam mane plak tuhan boleh mati ????? kalau tu ...

tolong jangan cakap pasal agama kristian disini bila your understanding on Christianity is so shallow.

jesus bukan tuhan tapi cuma anak Tuhan yg dihantar ke dunia utk satu misi.

the death and rise of jesus christ is to symbolised the greatness of the Almighty God ( who is not Jesus )

sazeryus

Originally posted by twinstar at 26-2-2007 03:50 PM

tolong jangan cakap pasal agama kristian disini bila your understanding on Christianity is so shallow.

jesus bukan tuhan tapi cuma anak Tuhan yg dihantar ke dunia utk satu misi.

the dea ...

so you punye tuhan melahirkan manusia  kah?

roh kudus , anak tuhan dan bapa tuhan...

>bapa boleh beranak ke?

sazeryus

Originally posted by naiza at 16-10-2006 09:23 AM

tuhan sebenar, tidak akan MATI

sazeryus

Originally posted by twinstar at 26-2-2007 03:50 PM

tolong jangan cakap pasal agama kristian disini bila your understanding on Christianity is so shallow.

jesus bukan tuhan tapi cuma anak Tuhan yg dihantar ke dunia utk satu misi.

the dea ...

anda kristian ke?

http://forum.cari.com.my/viewthread.php?tid=240268&extra=page%3D2&page=1

link diatas tentang siapa jesus (anak tuhan @ tuhan)

Originally posted by Gravedigger at 25-7-2005 09:10 PM


Oleh sebab ajaran Buddha itu telah lama berlalu maka mungkin amalan bersunat itu telah dilupakan dan penganutnya hanya melihat kepada kebersihan jiwa sahaja.
Bagi orang Islam pula bersunat i ...

kalau nak kata kotor...tell u brother...our colon paling kotor....so u wana do colonectomy?......is impossible u purify yourself through sunat.....the only way to keep yourself clean is always practise wisdom and compassion in your life....

ariyamusafir

Originally posted by wisdomlight at 14/3/2007 02:41

kalau nak kata kotor...tell u brother...our colon paling kotor....so u wana do colonectomy?......is impossible u purify yourself through sunat.....the only way to keep yourself clean is always  ...

This body ouf ours itself is filthy. Look at woman, their body is beautiful, very nice to look at, but if we were to cut open it, it is filled with all kinds of filth. Not criticising woman. Man also the same. Say woman because woman body very beautiful compared to man... hahaha... but that is a fact, both man and woman body is filthy. Thus, the correct word to use on this body of ours is, "skin bag filled with all kinds of filth".

badz525

N peringatan, kalo ade post masuk sinih yang tak rational tanpa fakta n main hantam cam dua bijik post cam naiza nyew post tuh. jangan diambil serius selain post2 yang tasional dibincagkan. Saya islam tapi bagi saya cara naiza membersembahkan keterangan islam tuh BODOWH dan memalukan saya dan kami yang islam. Harap poster2 yang rasional sahj post kat sinih secara rational and professional atas niat nak berbincang tukar pendapat, tambah ilmu yang bukan sume orang dapat. ok? great then. tq

ariyamusafir

Originally posted by badz525 at 30/3/2007 03:41
N peringatan, kalo ade post masuk sinih yang tak rational tanpa fakta n main hantam cam dua bijik post cam naiza nyew post tuh. jangan diambil serius selain post2 yang tasional dibincagkan. Saya  ...

No prob.

ajaran buddha bagaikan

pointing your fingers to the moon.



BUDDHA TOLD ANANDA


the main point is, you see the moon. how the finger is used to poin the moon is not important

once you see the moon, forget about the fingers (ajaran buddha)



Buddha mahukan insan di DUKKHA SACCA (dunia) untuk sedar (enlightment)

Dukkha Sacca is divided to 6 bahagian

1.) heaven (from Tavatimsa -lowest heaven to Nevasanna nasanna yatana-highest heaven)
2.) human being (MANUSSA)
3.) Hell (NARAKA from Sanjiva Naraka (lowest hell) to Avici Naraka (higest hell))
4.) Animals (Tiracchana)
5.) Ghost or Spirit (Petas)
6.) Demons (asura)

all the soul are circulating in the Dukkha Sacca. Gods who lives in the highest heaven , Nevasanna, has a live span of 84000mahakappa, equalavant to 4644864000million human years (46448640000000000) years.

according to my intepretation, gods who are staying in Nevasanna tends to think that they are living for eternity because their lifespan are 46448640000000000 years,

Bbut buddha whoh is enlighten, become NOTHING.
Nothing is nothing. nothing is everything. everything is nothing. nothing is nothing.

he who achieves enlightment, is giving us a guidance.

before buddha went nirvana, he told all of us, to forget all is teaching, once you know the truth
his lordship said

"MY TEACHING IS NOT ABOUT THE TRUTH. I did not told you about the truth. But i told you the way, and guidance to look for the truth. So, when you achiheve the truth, you must forget the way, so that you won't mislead yourself."

in buddism, there are two major divison

the mahayana

and the teravada

mahayana are path like bothistava (correct spelling?) where you achieve enlightment, but you still stay in DUKKA SACCA for the sake to help to spead the guidance to others

teravadians are thohse whoh achieve enlightment and LEFT te DUKKHA SACCA . Thhey don't even desire to go to heaven.

well don't ask me Why. Don't ask any of us Why. and for those who claims to be buddist, do not explain. you don't know why because you haven't achieve enlightment.

those who achieved enlighemtn, like buddha's protege, they don't talk, or explain like us... we will only make thing worst..

we just explain what is taught by buddha

tickmeoff

zeekin, i agree with you wholeheartedly.

tickmeoff, thanks for your recognization.. now i am studying zen.. haiz.. very confusing..

ariyamusafir

Originally posted by zeekin at 3/4/2007 12:22
tickmeoff, thanks for your recognization.. now i am studying zen.. haiz.. very confusing..

I recommend that you study the early 4 Nikayas (in the Theravada radition) or the Agama Sutras (in the Mahayana tradition). Any later sutta which contradicts the early 4 nikayas or the agama sutras must be rejected!