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Tragedi Tanjung Kupang 4 Dis 1977

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 Author| Post time 12-10-2006 02:34 PM | Show all posts
kerana org dalam? leh citer pasal ape.. kalo takut nak citer jgn ler bukak citer langsung..

kat area tu ade ler terjumpe beberapa pistol vip.. dan mungkin pistol tu ade yg meletup.. adekah sebab pistol yg didaftarkan oleh vip tu meletup menyebabkan cerita penglibatan vip timbul...

adekah pilot tu melaporkan adenya penglibatan org dlm mase dia kontek menara kawalan?

dan adekah mangsa yg menghubungi keluarga melalui telepon canggih (kalo ade pd mase tu) memberitahu penglibatan vip dlm tragedi tersebut..

dan adekah terdapat mangsa yg hidup menceritakan tentang penglibatan sipolan si polan?

adekah org yg berstatus vip yg menaiki kapalterbang tu atau yg tak naik kapalterbang tu memberitahu kepada reporter atau org ramai tentang penglibatan dia dalam tragedi tersebut?

huhuhhu
musykil gak aku.. camner citer vip terlibat nih leh timbul..

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Post time 12-10-2006 03:50 PM | Show all posts
Entah la...tapi yang aku tahu pesawat tu sepatutnya dari Penang ke KL. Tapi bila nak sampai KL, menara subang diberitahu ada perampas dan perampas mahukan pesawat ke Singapura. Tapi bila sampai di ruang udara selatan johor, pesawat macam hilang kawalan, menjunam, naik balik meletup dan kemudian terhempas.

Pasal VIP alah...dalam porem ni korang tengok kutuk / gosip politik macam takde apa..inikan pula cerita lama...kalau betul le....
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Post time 12-10-2006 03:51 PM | Show all posts

Reply #40 ferryman2393's post

dikatakan ada berlaku pergelutan dengan perampas...bom tangan yang dipegang perampas terlepas dan meletup...
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Post time 12-10-2006 07:18 PM | Show all posts
Apsal pistol, bom tangan suma nih ble naik atas pesawat?

takde check dulu ke sebelum take off?
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Post time 12-10-2006 11:18 PM | Show all posts
errr... mana satu citer yang sebenarnya ni?
hati ni membuak2 nak tahu... tengah dup dap dup dap ni
tapi tak ada sapa ke nak  bagi tahu?
alahai...
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Post time 13-10-2006 07:04 AM | Show all posts
biarlah rahsia ke mmg ko sesaje nk bikin panas wei..lenkali takyah guna ayat ko tau cita tp takleh cita..
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 Author| Post time 13-10-2006 09:08 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Halilintar at 12-10-2006 07:18 PM
Apsal pistol, bom tangan suma nih ble naik atas pesawat?

takde check dulu ke sebelum take off?



mase tu kawalan keselamatan tak ketat... beg penumpang tak di cek dengan teliti...
ade baca tak posting aku yg first sekali? kalo tak baca memang tak tau ler..
tapi takper.. sebab ko tak tau aku paste kan ape yg aku masukkan kat atas...

" kapalterbang itu terhempas di kawasan paya.. ia terhempas berdekatan dengan sebuah rumah yang sedang/baru mengadakan kenduri kawin..
cebisan cebisan mayat bertaburan di dalam paya dan ade yang tersangkut di pokok.
cebisan mayat tersebut dikumpulkan di dalam plastik dan dikebumikan di perkuburan khas jalan kebun teh johor bahru, kawasan ini diberikan oleh kerajaan negeri johor.
upacara pengkebumian dibuat mengikut adat dan ajaran agama islam, kristian, budha dan hindu, ia dilakukan pada pagi jumaat 9 disember.                                                                    
kelemahan ketika itu
penumpang tidak diperiksa dengan teliti, barang tidak diperiksa dengan teliti.
di tempat kejadian telah ditemui beberapa pucuk pistol dipercayai milik penumpang
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yg citer penglibatan org dlm/vip tu citer kabar angin jer.. bukan citer betul pon... biase lah.. org melesia kan suke tambah dan buat citer... huhuhhh.... kekeke nak nak zaman skang nih... bukti takder.. tapi citer nyer sungguh hebat...
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Post time 15-10-2006 02:30 AM | Show all posts
wow xpernah tau pon citer nih
huhuhuactually xlahir pon lagi time nih
besh gak bile bace
misteri tol..>~~
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Post time 15-10-2006 08:47 AM | Show all posts

Reply #44 Halilintar's post

Juga kalau siapa yang dah hidup tahun 70an....korang boleh tengok kapalterbang kat apron, orang naik turun pesawat...semua kat open gallery..heh kalau korang ambik batu lontar mesti sampai punya kat pesawat...sekarang mana ada.
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Post time 15-10-2006 11:18 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by alphawolf at 12-10-2006 03:51 PM
dikatakan ada berlaku pergelutan dengan perampas...bom tangan yang dipegang perampas terlepas dan meletup...


aku tak pasti nak cite atau tak..tapi mimpi yg sama asyik berulang berkali kali sejak aku sekolah menengah thn 90an...mungkin mainan setan kot..tapi...dlm mimpi aku..cuma ada 5 org je yg ctrl pesawat tuh so called perampas...muka cam cina...yg sorang tu pegang bom tgn..acah acah je..tapi one guy maybe org besar kot aku assume dlm mimpi aku ni..cuba nak jadi hero..dia keluarkan pistol and tembak...mamat yg pegang bom tgn tuh terlepas..aku paranoid sampai skang...antara nak percaya atau tak..tapi mimpi yg sama repeated...ada ke salah sorang penumpang tuh nama shamsudin and family dia berasal kl..umur dia masa kejadian tuh 30an ..:geram:

aku cuma tau cite pasal kapalterbangn terhempas...year 2000 coz time tuh aku baru start keje..:hmm:
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Post time 15-10-2006 06:28 PM | Show all posts
kapalterbang kan ada black box? kotak hitam simpan rakaman.
Kalo eksiden nanti dorang cek black box tu?

takde ke kat kapalterbang ni?

atau cam serangan 911, Black Box tak jumpa ( kenyit mata sikit  ) :pmuka:
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Post time 16-10-2006 08:37 AM | Show all posts

Reply #51 deaf4ever's post

Ada blackbox dengan cockpit Voice recorder...kapten laporkan pesawat dirampas dan perampas mahukan pesawat dibawa ke singapore. Perampas dipercayai anggota Japanese Red Army
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Post time 16-10-2006 08:48 AM | Show all posts

Reply #8 JalakLenteng's post

le...dah berapa kali crash/crash land...tapi tak banyak la...
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Post time 16-10-2006 08:50 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by alphawolf at 16-10-2006 08:37 AM
Ada blackbox dengan cockpit Voice recorder...kapten laporkan pesawat dirampas dan perampas mahukan pesawat dibawa ke singapore. Perampas dipercayai anggota Japanese Red Army


Oo i see, maknanya ada rakaman black box ngan cockpit voice recorder la ye..

aku rasa mesti kerajaan masih simpan rakaman2 ni, cuma bleh jadi top secret je la...
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Post time 16-10-2006 09:00 AM | Show all posts
cite ni masa mak puteri remaja. dia kata.. masa terhempas tu dia dengar bunyi... kuat. pastu.. kat kg mak puteri tu... siap dgr ndan nampak tangan semua atas pokok. kat jalan.. dia pun belari sama pegi tengok. banyak bulan laa dia tak makan daging.. terbayang bayang je.
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Post time 21-10-2006 08:27 PM | Show all posts

1977 Malaysia Airlines Flight 653 Crisis

Malaysia Airlines Flight 653 (MH653), a Boeing 737-2H6 registered as 9M-MBD (delivered in September 1972 as 9M-AQO), was a flight which crashed at Tanjung Kupang, Johor, in Malaysia on the evening of December 4, 1977. It was the first fatal accident for Malaysia Airlines, with all 93 passengers and 7 crew killed instantly. The flight was apparently hijacked as soon as it reached cruise level; the circumstances in which this and the subsequent crash occurred remain unsolved.


Sequence of events
Flight MH653 departed from Penang's Runway 22 at exactly 1921 hrs for Kuala Lumpur's Subang Airport (now known as the Sultan Abdul Aziz Shah Airport). Onboard were 7 crew and 93 passengers, including the Malaysian Agricultural Minister, Dato' Ali Haji Ahmad, Public Works Department Head, Dato' Khalid Mahfuz, and Cuban Ambassador to Japan, Mario Garcia. In charge of the flight was Captain G.K. Ganjoor.

At approximately 1954 hrs, while at a height of 4,000 feet over Batu Arang descending towards Subang's Runway 33, captain G.K. Ganjoor reported to Subang Tower of an "unidentified hijacker" onboard. The tower immediately notified the authorities, who made emergency preparations at the airport.

A few minutes later, however, Captain Ganjoor radioed:"We're now proceeding to Singapore...". The plane never touched down at Singapore.

At 2015 hrs, all communications with flight MH653 were lost.

At 2036 hrs, the residents of Kampong Ladang, Tanjong Kupang in Johor reported hearing explosions and seeing burning wreckage in a swamp. The wreckage was later identified as Flight MH653. No one on board survived, and not one recognizable body was found. The plane had hit the ground almost vertically at a very high speed.


Aftermath
The cockpit voice recorder of the aircraft was recovered, and the following was established:

After seizing control, at a point shortly before the crash, the offender locked himself in the cockpit with the two pilots. From the conversation, it appeared that all tension was gone, and the hijacker was talking amiably to the pilots. Suddenly, two gunshots occur in rapid succession, followed a short time later by a third and final shot.

At this stage, the aircraft was on autopilot and flyable. Noises suggestive of the cockpit door being broken in are heard, along with a reasonable amount of screaming and cursing. No noises are heard from within the cockpit to indicate any of the three occupants were conscious.

The autopilot disconnects, possibly due to a pitch input by someone entering the cockpit and trying to control the aircraft without knowing how to do it properly. An investigator speculated that someone pulled back on the column, causing a pitch up, and that they were doing it in such a fashion that positive feedback occurred, e.g. reaching over a pilot unsupported and falling back as the plane pitched up, i.e. a pilot-induced oscillation. This rapidly developed into a high amplitude phugoid oscillation that resulted in a dive into the swamp.

The hijacker spoke with a Japanese accent, and it was speculated that the Japanese Red Army was responsible for the hijacking and subsequent murder of the pilots.

All recovered remains were x-rayed in an attempt to discover evidence of a projectile or weapon. No weapon or bullet was ever found. Remains were buried in a common grave at the border of the various common religions in Malaysia.

The memorial site is situated at Jalan Kebun Teh, Johor Bahru, Malaysia. It is known as Tanjung Kupang Memorial.

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Post time 22-10-2006 10:04 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by CHEW at 21-10-2006 08:27 PM
Malaysia Airlines Flight 653 (MH653), a Boeing 737-2H6 registered as 9M-MBD (delivered in September 1972 as 9M-AQO), was a flight which crashed at Tanjung Kupang, Johor, in Malaysia on the evening  ...



CHEW topik ni dah ada kat sini.. http://forum.cari.com.my/viewthr ... &extra=page%3D2


bleh mintak mod mergekan

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Post time 30-11-2006 12:12 AM | Show all posts
hellloo...i new here...tertarik dgn thread nie...adik bilik aku time study dkt uitm(now gf adik aku...hehehehe) ckp atuk dier salah sorg dlm flight tue...tan sri mahfuz...dier mmg ler xsempat jmpa atuk dier...n dier kt kebumi beramai2...kalo xsilap aku ader dewan sem[erna nama atuk dier nie...al-fatihah
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Post time 30-11-2006 10:07 AM | Show all posts
nama dewan tu ialah dewan tan sri mahfuz bin khalid kat jkr kl. tan sri merupakan ketua pengarah time tu.
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Post time 18-1-2007 12:46 AM | Show all posts

extracted from wikipedia.. searched under Japanese Red Army

December 1977: A suspected lone member of the army hijacked Malaysia Airlines Flight 653. The flight was carrying the Cuban ambassador to Tokyo, Mario Garcia. The Boeing 737 then crashed killing all onboard after he shot both pilots and himself.
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