How many Malaysian Christians understand Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek?

Originally posted by Nick_Perelman at 7-9-2006 05:48 PM

Adam spoke Hebrew. However.

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Nick_Perelman

Originally posted by samerosie at 7-9-2006 06:26 PM


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Adam - first man. Spoke Hebrew.

Originally posted by Nick_Perelman at 7-9-2006 06:42 PM

Adam - first man. Spoke Hebrew.

and why do you think so?

Nick_Perelman

Originally posted by samerosie at 7-9-2006 06:47 PM


and why do you think so?

Because he got a Hebrew name and he gave hebrew names to his wife and sons.

SquiZZ

Why must malaysian christian need to understand greek, hebrew or aramic? Whats the point here?

Marsyal Yau

there is no need for us to learn aramic, hebrew or greek to understand the Word of God.

MENJ

Originally posted by Marsyal Yau at 8-9-2006 02:12 AM
there is no need for us to learn aramic, hebrew or greek to understand the Word of God.

If you mean your inaccurate and sometimes even ridiculous English translations, then I guess you are truly missing a lot.

- MENJ

MENJ

Originally posted by Nick_Perelman at 7-9-2006 05:48 PM

Adam spoke Hebrew. However.

Adam was not a Jew.

- MENJ

MENJ

Originally posted by Nick_Perelman at 7-9-2006 10:20 PM

Because he got a Hebrew name and he gave hebrew names to his wife and sons.

By this kind of (stupid) logic, Ibrahim was an Arab and he spoke Arabic because Ishaq (Isaac) and Ismail (Ishmael) are Arabic names.

Pfftt...anyone can see how silly reasoning this is.

- MENJ

MENJ

Originally posted by Debmey at 7-9-2006 06:20 PM

So whats the issue of Chinese not knowing hebrew and greek?
why the double standards?

Because those were the languages your alleged Man-Gawd spoke?

- MENJ

Debmey

Adam sure wasn't Arab.

Debmey

Originally posted by MENJ at 8-9-2006 03:24 AM


Because those were the languages your alleged Man-Gawd spoke?

- MENJ

There is no proof that God spoke arabic at all.
Mo said that the witnesses to him receiving God's word were jinns. Now how do you verify that?

SquiZZ

Originally posted by MENJ at 8-9-2006 03:21 AM


If you mean your inaccurate and sometimes even ridiculous English translations, then I guess you are truly missing a lot.

- MENJ

Its better than not understanding at all. Christians are not required to pray or to recite anything in hebrew or aramaic. So your argument is weak.

Nick_Perelman

Originally posted by MENJ at 8-9-2006 03:23 AM


By this kind of (stupid) logic, Ibrahim was an Arab and he spoke Arabic because Ishaq (Isaac) and Ismail (Ishmael) are Arabic names.

Nope these are also HEBREW names.

Pfftt...anyone can see how silly reasoning this is.

Tell me why Adam got a Hebrew name and why he gave to his wife and children Hebrew names as well?

Originally posted by MENJ at 8-9-2006 03:21 AM


If you mean your inaccurate and sometimes even ridiculous English translations, then I guess you are truly missing a lot.

- MENJ

Same goes with Malay Muslims: they dont understand Arabic and are focred to use inaccurate and sometimes even ridiculous translations.

Debmey

The translations are ridiculous, especially the Yusuf Ali translation which is an apologetic transliteration more than anything else.

Originally posted by Nick_Perelman at 7-9-2006 10:20 PM

Because he got a Hebrew name and he gave hebrew names to his wife and sons.

No, the Torah was mostly written in Hebrew for a Hebrew audience.  

Written copies of the OT texts were dated after the Babylonian exile, scholars know this because they were written in Aramaic, the official language of the Persians at that time.  By then most Jews were Aramaic speakers.

Moses and the earlier Israelites most probably spoke Egyptian language.  Isaiah said Hebrew was a Canaan language so when the Jews conquered Canaan, they had most probably adopted the native language.  And they've adapted very well.  According to the OT, some Jews were so comfortable with their new land, they even took foreign wives and worshipped their wives's idol gods.

So, had Moses's exodus was to China, the Torah would've been written in Chinese and Adam would've had a Chinese name and gave his wife and sons Chinese names, BUT that does not mean Adam actually spoke Chinese.

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MENJ

Originally posted by Nick_Perelman at 8-9-2006 09:47 AM

Nope these are also HEBREW names.

No they are ARABISED names. I am talking about the names Ishaq, Ismail and Ibrahim specifically.

Tell me why Adam got a Hebrew name and why he gave to his wife and children Hebrew names as well?

Because your scribes translated his name into Hebrew, the same way the Quran uses the Arabised names of the Hebrew prophets. At least we are not silly enough to call the Hebrew prophets ARABS....

Same goes with Malay Muslims: they dont understand Ar ...

There are Malay Muslims who are educated in the Middle East and know Arabic. So there is no need to peddle your ignorant assumptions here.

- MENJ

[ Last edited by  MENJ at 8-9-2006 03:16 PM ]

MENJ

Originally posted by Debmey at 8-9-2006 09:49 AM
The translations are ridiculous, especially the Yusuf Ali translation which is an apologetic transliteration more than anything else.

So says a person who cant even speak Arabic, much less read the script.

- MENJ

MENJ

Originally posted by Debmey at 8-9-2006 08:53 AM

There is no proof that God spoke arabic at all.
Mo said that the witnesses to him receiving God's word were jinns. Now how do you verify that?

ff:

I am not talking about the Quran I am talking about the languages your alleged Man-Gawd spoke. Stop trying to run away from the topic.

- MENJ

MENJ

Originally posted by Debmey at 8-9-2006 07:15 AM
Adam sure wasn't Arab.

Never said he was either.

- MENJ