Constantine create a bible?

MENJ

Originally posted by SquiZZ at 16-9-2006 10:45 AM
Then please do so kindly show us how did constantine influenced the creation of the bible and where did he odered some books to be burned.

Here you go:

http://www.bismikaallahuma.org/a ... rinity-an-analysis/

http://www.bismikaallahuma.org/a ... f-its-canonization/

Been there, done that.

- MENJ

SquiZZ

Originally posted by MENJ at 17-9-2006 01:54 PM
http://www.bismikaallahuma.org/a ... rinity-an-analysis/

Let me quote the major point of your article.

[quote]We can see that this letter demonstrates the ignorance of the Emperor, not only of Christianity but also of any religion in general, since he assumes that whether a man worships God as he pleases, or in the manner that God indicates, it is the same to him. To say that the controversy between Alexander and Arius was merely a verbal quarrel or an insignificant and non-essential point is absurd. To regard the difference between the two as 搕rivial

Originally posted by MENJ at 17-9-2006 12:54 PM


Here you go:

http://www.bismikaallahuma.org/a ... rinity-an-analysis/

http://www.bismikaallahuma.org/a ... -the-new-testament- ...

apa cridibiliti web Bissssss tu? Semuanya propaganda budak sekolah pondok nampaknya. tak segan silu lagi memaparkan kedaifan kalian berfikir? :nyorok:

MENJ

Originally posted by tiM at 17-9-2006 09:30 PM

apa cridibiliti web Bissssss tu? Semuanya propaganda budak sekolah pondok nampaknya. tak segan silu lagi memaparkan kedaifan kalian berfikir? :nyorok:

Well then perhaps "propaganda budak sekolah pondok" is not suitable for you and this site is more to your tastes instead:

http://malay.bismikaallahuma.org

- MENJ

Debmey

All those anti Christian folks just can't make sense of their charges over Constantine.
They make claims about Constantine contrary to facts of his life as well as hard records from his era.

There was no need for Constantine to convert to Christianity at all to appease anyone because Christians were persecuted people and weak politically at that time.
On the contrary, by his conversions, Constantine made many enemies.

MENJ

Originally posted by Debmey at 18-9-2006 12:13 AM
All those anti Christian folks just can't make sense of their charges over Constantine.
They make claims about Constantine contrary to facts of his life as well as hard records from his era.

As usual, sweeping statements without any evidence whatsoever. Constantine wanted to unite his empire, that is why he had to get involved in the Trinitarian dispute to prevent his empire to crumble into chaos. Sheesh...anyone who reads Christian history of that era knows this.

- MENJ

Debmey

If he had wanted to unite his kingdom, he would have stuck to paganism cos the majority as well as the ruling class were all pagans and Christians were never involved in civil disobedience in any way nor was there a Christian nation in existence at that time.
so where is your proof that he converted to unite the country? This is ridiculous!

MENJ

Originally posted by Debmey at 18-9-2006 09:12 AM
If he had wanted to unite his kingdom, he would have stuck to paganism cos the majority as well as the ruling class were all pagans and Christians were never involved in civil disobedience in any w ...

Since by that time the majority of the empire has already become Christians, paganism was not an option any longer.

- MENJ

Debmey

Not true, Christians were teh persecuted lot and Christianity was never the majority religion prior to that and there is no evidence to suggest so.
Besides, the ruling class & elites were not Christians.
Seems like the opposite is true menj. Your argument seems illogical.

MENJ

Originally posted by Debmey at 18-9-2006 10:09 AM
Not true, Christians were teh persecuted lot and Christianity was never the majority religion prior to that and there is no evidence to suggest so.
Besides, the ruling class & elites were not  ...

I said the majority of people BY THAT TIME (Constantine's era) has become Christians. Read again what I wrote properly!

- MENJ

Debmey

Again i said there is no evidence of such a thing and it won't make sense cos Christains were persecuted lot and held no power.

MENJ

Originally posted by Debmey at 18-9-2006 10:27 AM
Again i said there is no evidence of such a thing and it won't make sense cos Christains were persecuted lot and held no power.

Constantine is best remembered in modern times for the Edict of Milan in 313, which fully legalized Christianity in the Empire, for the first time, and the Council of Nicaea in 325; these actions are considered major factors in the spreading of the Christian religion. His reputation as the "first Christian Emperor" has been promulgated by historians from Lactantius and Eusebius of Caesarea to the present day; although there has been debate over the veracity of his faith because he continued support for pagan deities and was baptized very close to his death.[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_I


Any more questions?

- MENJ

Debmey

Thats correct, but before he converted, Christians were persecuted and did not make up the majority by any stretch.
So those words you posted actually debunked your muslim lies.

MENJ

Originally posted by Debmey at 19-9-2006 09:04 AM
Thats correct, but before he converted, Christians were persecuted and did not make up the majority by any stretch.

They make up a majority in the kingdom.

- MENJ

Debmey

not true, there is no evidence to say that at all.
You mean a persecuted people ended up growing into a majority? How? Why? Please explain menj.

i212

Scholars of Christianity & Judaism Reveal Truth About Their Religions

http://www.islamtomorrow.com/bible/

Debmey

er... trying to detract from the debate?

BTW, did you notice that those quotes were all presented in your link were partially in order to take them out of context?

MENJ

Originally posted by Debmey at 19-9-2006 11:03 AM
not true, there is no evidence to say that at all.
You mean a persecuted people ended up growing into a majority? How? Why? Please explain menj.

And you have no evidence to the contrary, either. I know what I read. To pander to the Christians and ensure stability in his kingdom, Constantine had to side with one group of Christians and make it a State Religion.

That side he chose was the Trinitarians.

- MENJ

i212

The link have story abou Bible.. duh

Debmey

Originally posted by MENJ at 19-9-2006 12:16 PM


And you have no evidence to the contrary, either. I know what I read. To pander to the Christians and ensure stability in his kingdom, Constantine had to side with one group of Christians and m ...

Since you were the ones who charged that Constantine converted to appease the majority when there is no such evidence, teh burden of rpoof is therefore on you to proive it rather than the other way around.
You are clearly a muslim liar menj, a liar foir allah.