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Kenapa Parameswara bunuh Temagi di Singapura?

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 Author| Post time 14-1-2007 03:32 AM | Show all posts

Reply #40 hamizao's post

Wah! Hami leh bagi saye info lanjut tak tentang kedatangan tentera monggol ke Asia Tenggara? Tak pernah lak tau sebelum nie...
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Post time 14-1-2007 09:46 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by rurouni_khairul at 7-12-2006 01:03 AM
Hmm...bole nampak la kenape kebanyakkan sultan Melaka semua 'malaun' semacam ajer kecuali Sultan Alaudin Riayat Syah.



:setuju:

aku admire kat Sultan nie...
ala2 system Khalifah Umar Amirul Mukminin
& ala2 Khalifah Umar Abdul Aziz


dia suka round malam2 menyiasat kehidupan rakyat & kuat beragama.
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Post time 15-1-2007 12:55 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by rurouni_khairul at 14-1-2007 03:32 AM
Wah! Hami leh bagi saye info lanjut tak tentang kedatangan tentera monggol ke Asia Tenggara? Tak pernah lak tau sebelum nie...


Permisi dari mod untuk mencerita sedikit dgn serba ringkas dari catatan Hami ttg tentera Mongol di Asia Tenggara....

In 1269 it was apparent that Kublai Khan adopted another expansion program. The Khan sent envoys to states in SEA, as usual, demanding acceptance of China's loardship which in effect was a token of submission. It was also apparent that they were demanding actual obedience which, if refused, shall be backed by military action. Kertanagara, King of Singosari in Java played for time and by 1281, when the Mongols failed against Japan and followed by more failures in Tongking and Champa, he arrested the whole Mongol deputation and sent the envoys back to China with "disfigured" faces .....generally thought to be noses cut:hmm: . China was greatly angered by this and set to prepare a great fleet and army to punish the reculcitrant King.

In the meantime it is said that to enable him to prepare for the onslaught of the Mongols, Kertanagara worked on an Indonesian confederacy. Details do differ in different views of historians but it is said that he went as far as the west coast of the Malay peninsular, Pahang, Borneo...annexed Madura, conquered Bali, a holy alliance with Sunda, subjugated or came to an agreement with Malayu in Sumatra......:hmm: He actually missed the Mongol Armada off the coast of Borneo!

Meanwhile, while being  absent often from Singosari weakened Singosari and gave opportunities to discontented vassals to rebel more so due to the King's own policies. Kediri was the centre of it as it's royal family had been humilated by a former king of Kutaraja which later became known as Singosari. The leader of the rebels was a Prince of Kediri. Now, this Kertanagara was quite a character. During one of his cult(Siva-Buddha) orgies he was murdered by the rebels. So when the Mongol Armada arrived he was no more.

When Singosari fell, her Crown Prince  Vijaya fled to Madura. He saw the opportunity to overthrow the userper. He returned and submitted to Singosari. In return he was awarded governorship of a district in lower Brantas Valley. He then sought assistence from the Mongol to overthrow Jayakatwang and promised recognition of China as loard over Java. When the job was done and the Mongols were split into small detachments to perform different tasks, Vijaya mounted surprise attacks on them such that the Admiral abandoned his campaign and saild away home. Hence Vijaya built his HQ at his Kraton in Majapahit.

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 Author| Post time 15-1-2007 11:08 AM | Show all posts

Reply #43 hamizao's post

Wah! Kira hebat jugak bangsa rumpun Melayu nie ye..mampu kalahkan kuasa besar yang ade pada mase tuh...:love:
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 Author| Post time 15-1-2007 11:12 AM | Show all posts

Reply #42 sya_sugar_sugar's post

Yup, memang tuh satu-satunya Sultan Melaka yang adil dan disenangi rakyat tapi dibenci oleh pembesar-pembesar Melaka pada masa tuh...

P.S: Down with the elite society!!!..

[ Last edited by  rurouni_khairul at 15-1-2007 11:15 AM ]
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Post time 10-2-2007 07:34 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by rurouni_khairul at 15-1-2007 11:08 AM
Wah! Kira hebat jugak bangsa rumpun Melayu nie ye..mampu kalahkan kuasa besar yang ade pada mase tuh...:love:


Hmm, adakah  pengkhianatan dianggap suatu qualiti yang hebat.............?
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Post time 10-2-2007 08:04 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by hamizao at 10-2-2007 01:34 AM


Hmm, adakah  pengkhianatan dianggap suatu qualiti yang hebat.............?


mungkin kot sbb sapa tak nak jadi manusia yg berkuasa ke atas rakyat jelata di bawah takluknya...:hmm:
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Post time 10-2-2007 08:39 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by rurouni_khairul at 14-1-2007 03:32 AM
Wah! Hami leh bagi saye info lanjut tak tentang kedatangan tentera monggol ke Asia Tenggara? Tak pernah lak tau sebelum nie...



aku teringat kisah di filem The Legend Suriyothai
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Post time 10-2-2007 08:45 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by huJanBaTu at 12-1-2007 12:32 PM
cmner rope singa asia?


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Post time 10-2-2007 09:00 PM | Show all posts
parameswara bunuh temagi pasal jeles ...awek temagi made in siam, lawa siut ...tu yg parameswara bunuh temagi tu..nak rampasa awek si temagi ....
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Post time 10-2-2007 11:32 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by HangPC2 at 10-2-2007 08:39 PM



aku teringat kisah di filem The Legend Suriyothai


Banyak pengkhianatan juga kalau tak salah.....HangPC boleh recall.

Nampaknya suatu tindakan yang selalu diguna oleh mereka yang inginkan kuasa.
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Post time 11-2-2007 03:23 PM | Show all posts

Reply #50 tinangol_csm's post

parameswara bunuh temagi pasal jeles ...awek temagi made in siam, lawa siut ...tu yg parameswara bunuh temagi tu..nak rampasa awek si temagi ....


Awek Temagi tu moyang aku dari  Pathong Thani...Memang Cun  Hehehe....
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 Author| Post time 12-2-2007 11:49 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by thamrong at 11-2-2007 03:23 PM


Awek Temagi tu moyang aku dari  Pathong Thani...Memang Cun  Hehehe....


Betul ke nie Thamrong?

P.S: Awek siam memang lawa2
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Post time 12-2-2007 07:01 PM | Show all posts

Reply #53 rurouni_khairul's post

P.S: Awek siam memang lawa2


Kopooon Kaaap....thank you many many many..
Same...Same
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Post time 12-2-2007 10:54 PM | Show all posts

Reply #52 thamrong's post

ko biar betul tamrong ??

p/s : nick ko ni memang made in siam .
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Post time 13-2-2007 12:47 AM | Show all posts

Reply #55 tinangol_csm's post

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Post time 13-2-2007 07:57 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by thamrong at 11-2-2007 03:23 PM


Awek Temagi tu moyang aku dari  Pathong Thani...Memang Cun  Hehehe....



ff: ff:              

ku tak mengerti.... lagi tak berapa clear...
itu hari Thamrong Chai kata Thamrong Chai Melayu-Deli...
(thread asal usul keturunan...)

ni mecam mana ada campuran kimia dari Pathong Thani.

:hmm: Phatong Thani = Pattani ker  ?

uhh...sungguh membingungkan.... misteri... aku org Sungei Pattani...

[ Last edited by  sya_sugar_sugar at 13-2-2007 08:00 AM ]
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 Author| Post time 13-2-2007 11:20 AM | Show all posts

Reply #57 sya_sugar_sugar's post

Maybe dah distance relative kot...Thamrong nie org Johor kan? Aku ade member kat Johor ade darah Siam..adik pompuan die lawa betul laa...
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Post time 13-2-2007 12:05 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by rurouni_khairul at 13-2-2007 11:20 AM
Maybe dah distance relative kot...Thamrong nie org Johor kan? Aku ade member kat Johor ade darah Siam..adik pompuan die lawa betul laa...



tentera Siam hilir sungai Semantan masuk Sg Muor alih2 udah sampai Johor kot...
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 Author| Post time 13-2-2007 12:25 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by sya_sugar_sugar at 13-2-2007 12:05 PM



tentera Siam hilir sungai Semantan masuk Sg Muor alih2 udah sampai Johor kot...


Sya penah gi Upper Bangkok tak? Diorang kate kat belah utara Siam tuh la yang pure Siam (Siam jati) Kat belah selatan cam Pattani tuh sebenarnya org Melayu cam Melayu kat sini gak...diorang semua ade Dwi name i.e: 1 name siam, 1 name Melayu. Tapi name dalam IC name Siam la kire macam name rasmi.

Kalau kat belah Bangkok (bahagian tengah) ramai Cina, maybe sebab Cina nie aktif dalam ekonomi so diorang ramai dok bandar.

Manakala belah utara nie yang ramai Siam Jati...Pergh...kulit diorang putih gebu licin bukan macam kulit Cina, putih tapi kasar (cam mat saleh la...) mata bundar, hidung mancung....tapi bab cakap hancur...prang chai pai klong....
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