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[MERGED] All about Asthma (lelah)

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Post time 7-5-2004 02:33 AM | Show all posts
hmmm.. i had kronik asthma masa kecik... inherit from my mom... my bro semua ada... then my mom of course la ikut cakap doc soh bantai makan ventolin.. ari ari kena makan.. tak leh tinggal...and now im allergic to it!!!  ada sekali tu masa darjah 3.. 3 kali gi clinic kena nebuliser... sampai termuntah muntah... hehe.. cian my dad kena dukung and all..  sib baik darjah 3 tu.. kalau dah form 3 camne.. ok then i didnt stop taking ventolin till i'm abt 11.. masa tu dah start ada excema sket sket... dia start semua kat pelipat... my neck is the worst!! then my asthma beransur pulih sekali sekala je kena.. tapi my excema sampai sekarang nie... cant do anything dah... doc cakap kalau i kena excema masa baby insya-allah excema akan ilang by 18... tapi i kena masa 11-12 years.. so doc kata maybe will be there till i die... skang nie i every month kena gi skin specialist tuk treatment skin... anyway doc kata nie memang related.. they call it Atopic Dermatitis... memang from asthma.. doc nasihatkan i supaya jgn stress... that is the main thing... then makan pon kena jaga... cant eat peanuts.. and until today i still pantang makan seafood... and i makan skinless chicken.. kalau makan KFC memang la rugi... hehe..  tapi tak pe.. i leh kurangkan colestrol.. anyway syukur that i tak gemok.. tu pon kena jaga... coz kalau badan kita berat then jalan pon termengah mengah... senang la asthma attack...  well.. pada saper yang ada child tu jaga la...


take care ppl...
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Post time 7-5-2004 06:11 PM | Show all posts
Warning sign .......

If you do not breathe beter or feels lega after your usual puff or if you have to take your puff morefrequent than 4 hourly ......

Over usage of the puff (the relievers) can actually cause disturbance of your heart beat and even death.

Other danger signs have been posted.

If you are not sure .. go get admitted to hospital. Don't wait.
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Post time 17-10-2004 06:50 AM | Show all posts

asthma.. need help

i'm in my mid 20's but still have asthma attacks, and have to take the inhaler often...

is this normal?

please can anyone advice on how to kurangkan this?
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Post time 17-10-2004 12:43 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by loukas at 17-10-2004 06:50:
i'm in my mid 20's but still have asthma attacks, and have to take the inhaler often...


You did not state whether your asthma attacks begun when you were a child or only started when you reached later age. In general childhood asthma may disappear at a later age. But adult onset asthma do not disappear with age.

Asthma canot be cured but can be controlled with the proper medications. There are two types : the relievers (like ventolin, bricanyl, atrovent, either alone or in combination) and the preventers (pulmicort, seretide, becotide - all of which are steroid based). There is a third type in which the relievers are combined with the preventers.

You will have to discuss with your dr regarding what, when and how to take these medications. You will have to try and identify what triggers the attacks (like smoke, pollution, food, dust, animal furs, weather, etc) and try to avoid these triggers. Stop smoking if you are a smoker.

Exercises like swimming, cycling are good for the lungs. But they can be undertaken only if the asthma is under control. For some people the exercise itself can trigger the asthma attacks.
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Post time 17-10-2004 02:57 PM | Show all posts
loukas, terlanjur you bukak topik ttg asthma, ice tumpang
sini tanya kat nautilus or sesiapa yg arif ek..

Kalau asthma dr bebudak macam mana pulak? Is it hereditary
sebab my uncles dulu pun athma juga..Chances of recovery mcm mana?
Mmg confirm akan hilang bila dah besar ke?

My brother is 11, very active in sports tetapi mudah mencungap..
Pakai yg pump-pump dlm mulut tuh tak jalan..2-3 days kena
pakai machine mcm kat hospital..apa nama tuh? nebulizer? apa ntah my mum panggil..Kalau tgh teruk, pakai twice a day. Kalau terlalu kerap
pakai machine tu + ubat - betulke bertambah mudarat?

Risau pulak..last week dia kena asthma attack + infection kat
peparu..yg ini pulak apa puncanya ek?
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Post time 17-10-2004 11:32 PM | Show all posts
In general asthma is hereditary but there are also many asthmatics who do not have a family history. There is no way to predict who will recover from asthma as he grows older - only time will tell.

If he wheezes following sports activities, inhaling the reliever medication 10-20 minutes before the activity helps.

There are plenty of sources for information on asthma and you should read them and discuss with the family dr in order to better understand the disease and take better control of it.
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Post time 18-10-2004 04:01 PM | Show all posts
ok,nie nak citer pengalaman tuah plak.bukan dari segi medikal sangat coz tak reti pasal medikal nie

mase kecik,tuah ada asma, sangat sedey coz adek beradek lain makan aiskrim,tuah tak bleh.tgk jerk.mmg kuat berpantang coz sangat penat kalau susah bernafas n batuk2.

tuah punya asma elok after tuah makan HATI UNTA.macam lawakkan!!org balik dari mekah,bawakan hati unta.katenye ubat asma kat arab.tuah pon try.rase die macam milo sket.

alhamdulillah,sampai skang ok. just tuah rase asma bleh berbalik semula kalau buat mende2 nie
1)minum air sejuk pas excercise
2)mandi lewat malam

tuh jer dari tuah
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Post time 19-10-2004 09:10 AM | Show all posts
i have had asthma since i was 3... even it is less severe than when i was a child but i am still VERY sensitive to changes in environment esp dust.

i am now living in an apartment next to a construction site.

my allergies has worsened and triggered my asthma.

i can't move out, this is my home.

any advice how i can oversome this?
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Post time 19-10-2004 11:16 AM | Show all posts
loukas,
maybe you should wear the mask to avoid inhaling the dusts too bad.

apart from that, i have to agree with tuah, try the HATI UNTA. i gave it to my son and it seems to work. you may not need to take it in large portion, just ambik setengah/satu tea spoon and masukkan in your soup or porridge. take it once a week and you'll see the result.

GOOD LUCK and TAKE CARE!
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Post time 21-12-2004 04:55 PM | Show all posts

Asma makin teruk

Tolong saya.... penyakit asma saya semakin teruk dan kerap menyerang tak kira siang atau malam.  Dulu-dulu kena serang tengah malam je tapi sekarang ni tak kira waktu.  Sekarang ni kemana-mana pun kena bawak ventolin inhaler, dan baru-baru ni doktor suruh start pakai inhaler yg warna cokelat tu (dah lupa nama dia).  Tapi still macam ni, teruk jugak.  Ada tak sesiapa yg tahu ubat-ubat tradisional or food supplement yg boleh bantu mengurangkan kesemputan saya ni.  :kunyah:
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Post time 21-12-2004 08:38 PM | Show all posts
samala...asma aku kerap datang...tapi aku dah tak pegi clinic dah...cuma pakai inhaler warna biru tu je...beli kat farmasi...
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Post time 22-12-2004 10:20 AM | Show all posts
asma ni kena pantang jugak. Macam pocot... asma dari umur 5 bulan..sampai la tua ni haaaa .. pastu lak kena pantang ais, habuk/debu pun tak boleh. So rumah mesti sentiasa bersih. Dah lama tak kena asma. Cuma bila cuaca tak menentu... cam hujan belah malam.. baru la kena attack sebab sejuk. Tu pun cuma pakai inhaler je... lepas sedut inhaler, ok la. Tapi lately p keje naik moto.. kena balik asma. Teruk jugak sampai dua malam p klinik..sedut gas. So skrg p keje naik kete. Supplement, pocot cuma makan spirulina. It does helps.

Bebop.. kalau dah kena pakai spray yg kaler cokelat tu meaning dah tenat le tu. Spray cokelat tu mcm makan ubat. Kena amik daily.  


[ Last edited by opocot on 22-12-2004 at 10:22 AM ]
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Post time 22-12-2004 10:50 AM | Show all posts

salam

saya bukan doktor yer ,

tapi saya rasa nanti ada org yg lebih berilmu akan bantu
tapi
kalau Bebop rasa asthma tu lebih buruk

sejak bila?

teruk tu mcm mana?
tak boleh tidur mlm ker sbb batuk , atau dada terasa "tight" , sempit?
and Bebop tahu waktu mana ia selalau "ATTACK"??


okay lah Bebop,
bebop selama ni mkn ventolin inhaler - warna biru tu kan? satu hari berapa kali doktor suruh? and berapa kali Bebop ambil? and bila semakin teruk makin kerap kah bebop guna ?
okay ,kalau gitu adakah lebih dari > 6 kali picit? puffs?


jadi kat sini ikut lah nasihat doktor ikut jer

then doktor bagi Beconade - beclomethasone dipropionate i think

itu Berbop tahu ubat apa? itu - PREVENTER - dia ni tak melegakan simptom dada tu secepat salbutamol ( yg inhaler warna bitu tu) tapi penting untuk jangka panjang so ikut nasihat doktor
berkumur lepas guna tu

then bebop kena kenal pasti apa yg sebabkan asthma / alahan tu sekain teruk ? adakah bela kucing,
cadar?
habuk dan sebaginyalah

saya rasa kan BEBOP, benop kewna pergu jumap pakar RESPIRATIry suruh doktor refer , jgn takut sbb melalui inilah sahaja Bebop dapat diberi  penerangan oleh para pegawai perubatan atau jururawat pakar ttg ASTHMA ni..yes depa akan terangkan ubat ubat yg BEBOP nak tahu tu
kat HKL
saya rasa banyak org pergi klinik tu tapi kena refer lah

saya rasa baik BEBOP dapatkan pemeriksaan di bvawah penyeliaan pakar sebab asthma ni lebih terkawal di kalangan pakar respiratori / dada yg tahu  pesakit mereka...


so take care...

p/s: i am suffering from asthma too.....

[ Last edited by mbhcsf on 22-12-2004 at 10:58 AM ]
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Post time 22-12-2004 11:54 AM | Show all posts
TQ kat semua yg memberi nasihat dan maklum balas .  Okay, biar saya cerita sikit kes asma saya ni.  Pertama kali kena attack asma ialah masa pregnant kan anak no. 3 pada tahun 2000 dan bila  pergi check, doktor kata maybe asma attack masa pregnant je.  Tapi jangkaan doktor tu salah sebab asma masih attack lepas beranak dan bila pregnant yg no. 4 pun sama jugak.  Sampai lah sekarang anak yg no. 4 dah nak masuk 4 tahun.  Dedulu attack cuma tengah malam, bila saya puff dgn ventolin inhaler dia ok.  Tapi sekarang ni tak kira waktu, kalau jalan laju pun kena, naik tangga pun semput (kadang-kadang sebelum naik tangga saya puff dulu :bgrin lagi teruk kalau saya ketawa banyak, boleh sampai pucat muka.  Tu yg kalau terlupa bawak ventolin inhaler saya rasa macam nak mati.  Dulu saya puff hanya tengah malam bila kena attack tapi sekarang ni dlm satu hari adalah 4 hingga 5 kali puff.(that means dlm satu hari saya kena attack 4 - 5 kali)  Kalau yg becotide tu saya puff pagi dan petang.  Untuk pertanyaan mbhscf, saya tak ada batuk tapi bila kena attack dada ketat (very tight) dan pernafasan berbunyi.  Tentu u tahu bila dah kena attack baru kita ada batuk-batuk sikit kan?  Time tu kadang-kadang ada macam lendir warna putih jernih keluar.

Opocot, saya suka kucing tapi kat rumah memang tak bela pun atas sebab-sebab nilah.  Saya ni bila nak mengelap habuk,  mengemas, menyapu rumah saya kena tutup hidung saya ngan kain macam zoro tu. Dan saya memang jarang minum ais, selalunya saya suka minuman panas.  Saya pun kadang-kadang frust gak bila orang kata ni tak boleh makan tu tak boleh makan, tapi kadang-kadang tu saya balun jugak.  Lupa lak nak cakap sebenar nya penyakit ni memang penyakit keturunan dari belah mak saya.  Dlm family yg kena ialah saya dan 2 org adik saya.  
  
Opocot, Spirulina yang u ambik to brand apa?  Maybe i should try this.  Saya dah pernah cuba jelly gamat, mengkudu juice dan macam-macam lagi tapi asma tak attack sekejap je, lepas tu dtg balik.  Mungkin apa yg mbfcsh cakap tu betul nak kena pergi consult ngan pakar.  Ni tengah taip ni pun tiba-tiba macam sempit je dada ni, mungkin sebab saya baru lepas makan kuih seri muka yg bawah dia ada pulut tu.  Oklah hingga disini dulu, saya nak pergi puff kejap.
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Post time 23-12-2004 01:21 AM | Show all posts
kenapa time aku teruk kene asma...sampai nak ambik udara sakit dada macam takleh buka...pastuh..kengkadang kahak berdarah
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Post time 23-12-2004 04:58 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Shamanz at 23-12-2004 01:21 AM:
kenapa time aku teruk kene asma...sampai nak ambik udara sakit dada macam takleh buka...pastuh..kengkadang kahak berdarah


Saya tak pernah lak ada kahak berdarah.  U tak pergi check doctor ke?
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Post time 24-12-2004 12:32 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Shamanz at 23-12-2004 01:21:
kenapa time aku teruk kene asma...sampai nak ambik udara sakit dada macam takleh buka...pastuh..kengkadang kahak berdarah

...Asthma is a condition that affects the airways
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Post time 24-12-2004 12:43 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by bebop at 22-12-2004 11:54:
TQ kat semua yg memberi nasihat dan maklum balas .  Okay, biar saya cerita sikit kes asma saya ni.  Pertama kali kena attack asma ialah masa pregnant kan anak no. 3 pada tahun 2000 dan bila  pergi  ...

...bebop...the aim of your asthma treatment is to keep you free from asthma symptoms during the day and the night and also...if you feel that you are not achieving these aims you should visit your doctor to review and reassess your asthma treatment...

...signs that your asthma is getting out of control include:

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Post time 24-12-2004 01:04 AM | Show all posts
...bebop...what i would suggest is that you should use a personal asthma plan to check the signs of worsening asthma symptoms and remind yourself what you need to do in an emergency...let me share with you what an asthma action plan is like...

...in your note book or diary...write out what you should do in the event of an asthma or an impending asthma attack...

ACTION PLAN 1 - When unwell with fever, running nose, sore throat or mild cough.  Also use when there is haze (PSI = or > 100)

--continue with daily dose of preventers (in your case becotide)

--use quick reliever (ventolin 2 puffs, 4 times a day)

--observe for wheezing, breathlessness or difficulty with breathing. If present use ACTION PLAN 2.

* follow this action plan 1 even if you think you are not having an asthma attack...the aim of this action plan 1 is to prevent an impending asthma attack*

ACTION PLAN 2 - When wheezing, breathlessness or difficulty with breathing present

--give quick reliver (ventolin 6 puffs immediately)

--continue with preventer with your usual dose

Observe closely, if no relief, seek immediate medical attention

--if imporved, continue with ventolin 6 puffs every 4hours for 1-2 days

--if improved, reduce to ventolin 6 puffs every 6 hours for 2-3 days

--then reduce to 2 puffs 4 times a day

--if continues to improve..follow ACTION PLAN 1 again for about 2 weeks

--if improve but requires 4 hourly quick reliever for more than 2 days, then see your dr for review...and in doubt..seek early medical attention...



[ Last edited by  blackmore at 19-6-2009 03:27 ]
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Post time 24-12-2004 01:14 AM | Show all posts
...another thing is...try getting a device called the spacer...think its better that you use a spacer when you are getting your puffs...memang pakai spacer nie nampak macam funny to some pple...tapi..it delivers the very most of your inhaled medications...

...and yes...very important...if you have asthma...avoid taking aspirin and NSAIDs (ponstan, voltaren, synflex, ibuprofen) as these medications can actually trigger an asthma attack...so...hati2 yeah...




[ Last edited by  blackmore at 19-6-2009 03:26 ]
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