Israel planned for Lebanon war

Debmey

Let's see here. The two IDF troopers kidnapped by the Hezbs ain't innocent. Israeli forces being known to clash sporadically with Hezbs guerillas at the borders. Now, how many innocents civvies got killed in Israeli retaliation, eh?

The soldiers didn't do anything at all. How can you say they are not innocent?
How would you like it if Singapore kidnaps two msia soldiers? Can we say its justified cos they ain't innocent?

Hezbollah are not terrorists, its a legal paramilitary outfit that even Lebanon Govt. acknowledge to safeguard South Lebanon from Israeli incursions after the Syrian pullout.

They are terrorists. They always target civilians.

The Hezb militia don military outfit nowadays, with bullet proof vests taken from Israelis dead or wounded troopers. Heck, I guess you never laid an eye on Hezb militia, eh?

They had uniforms but didn't wear them during the war.
have you ever seen a hezbo before?

The Hezbollah regular fighters looked more like any 3rd world conventional infantries.

The look and behave excatly like terrorists.

BTW, don't you know that the Lebanese people mostly support Hezbollah during its action in defending Lebanon fr4om Israeli aggression?

No they don't. They actually blame hezbos for creating trouble for lebanese.

Ever heard of 'tactical retreat' against much more superior foes? Hezbs are fighting guerilla type warfare against much more technologically modern IDF armies, so such tactics remains sounds. Much like Tamil Tigers vs Sri Lankan forces or Viet Cong vs USA scenario. Retreat & returned back to bite the enemy on their arse!

tactical retreat? sound smore like having their asses kicked by idf.

Because Israel sees him as potential target? Or letting Mossad to assasinate him so easily much like other unfortunate Palestinian or past Hezbollah's leaders?

Bloody stupid question.

he's scared. takut.
olmert, netanyahu, bush are targets too, they didn't go into hiding.

[ Last edited by  Debmey at 19-3-2007 03:13 PM ]

Nick_Perelman

Originally posted by Robotech at 19-3-2007 01:47 PM


Let's see here. The two IDF troopers kidnapped by the Hezbs ain't innocent. Israeli forces being known to clash sporadically with Hezbs guerillas at the borders.

How would you react if Singapore was killing 8 Msia soldiers patrollong the border and kiling another 2? It were not "sporadical clashes", but Hezie provocations. Time to time Hezies used to attack Israeli soldiers. In most cases these attacks failed, but evenntucally they succeed. After the war they ceased these provocations, no single bullet was fired.

Hezbollah are not terrorists, its a legal paramilitary outfit that even Lebanon Govt. acknowledge to safeguard South Lebanon from Israeli incursions after the Syrian pullout.

According to UN resolutions Hezies suppose to be disarmed. So they are ILLEGAL.

The Hezb militia don military outfit nowadays, with bullet proof vests taken from Israelis dead or wounded troopers. Heck, I guess you never laid an eye on Hezb militia, eh?

Nonsense. Dead Israeli soldiers did not fall in hands of Hezies. Beside two captured soldiers who were most probably killed. Hezies get all equipment from Syria and Iran.

The Hezbollah regular fighters looked more like any 3rd world conventional infantries.

True. Hezies are armed and trained better than many armies.

BTW, don't you know that the Lebanese people mostly support Hezbollah during its action in defending Lebanon fr4om Israeli aggression?

Shiites support Hezies. While majority of Lebanese Christians and Sunnis hate them.

windof

Why must singapoh soldiers attack and kill our soldiers since we dont provoke them and impose any embargo on them? We dont treat singapoh as our enemy for life. We dont point our weapons and missiles towards them, we dont kill their children and women and old men, we never cross their border with our bulldozers and tanks, it will make singapoh look stupid right? Those ppl u been opressing for so long r fighting back bcoz of ur cruelty and arrogance, u been treating them like dirt for so long, they just want their land and life back, which u had stolen from them for generations, be kind to other human beings so that other ppl will be kind towards u.

mentosonline

Hey, this conversation is going into retrograde. These are my comments:

Hezbollah was wrong for the frequent, and needless, border raids from 2000-2006. Bear in mind that Israel has only responded harshly after so long, mainly because of the kidnapping. As for the human shield thing, I'm quite sure Hezbollah used that tactic far more often than Israel, but both are in the wrong here. As for Singapore kidnapping Malaysia soldiers, that won't happen. But you'll have Singaporean soldiers getting lost in Malaysia though (happened once I think). As to claims of Israeli soldiers targeting civilians, that is just Hezbollah propaganda. True, Israelis killed some civilians, but every army makes mistakes and Israel is no exception. If Israel went all out to attack Hezbollah with full force, you'll probably see the whole of Lebanon destroyed, with thousands of civilians killed, and Hezbollah ceasing to exist. Whether Hezbollah terrorists are cowards is a different issue. To put it nicely, it's called "hit-and-run". To put it bluntly, it's simply cowardism, or being humzi.

capable_warrior

I agree with Dweebo, with Israeli running around like the terrorist that it is we should never accept peace.  Ahaks! you know better than that leaving a statement like that hangging out there in the void! Dweeb! hows the cold shower doing?

capable_warrior

Dude, get real.  Come on! See Dweeb for a cold shower to knock some sense into yourself.

Debmey

Hezbollah was wrong for the frequent, and needless, border raids from 2000-2006. Bear in mind that Israel has only responded harshly after so long, mainly because of the kidnapping. As for the human shield thing, I'm quite sure Hezbollah used that tactic far more often than Israel, but both are in the wrong here.

I don't think the israelis aren't harsh at all, I think they are too soft.
if singaporeans were to fight the same war, southern lebanon would have been flattened and hezbos crushed completely.

As for Singapore kidnapping Malaysia soldiers, that won't happen. But you'll have Singaporean soldiers getting lost in Malaysia though (happened once I think). As to claims of Israeli soldiers targeting civilians, that is just Hezbollah propaganda. True, Israelis killed some civilians, but every army makes mistakes and Israel is no exception. If Israel went all out to attack Hezbollah with full force, you'll probably see the whole of Lebanon destroyed, with thousands of civilians killed, and Hezbollah ceasing to exist. Whether Hezbollah terrorists are cowards is a different issue. To put it nicely, it's called "hit-and-run". To put it bluntly, it's simply cowardism, or being humzi.

Hezbos love to wear civvies, hide among and fore from civilians. They even prevented civilains from leaving the war zone.
is it any wonder why civilians died. in fact most of the 'civilians' who died were actually hezbo terrorists.

i wonder why msians see the need to defend hezbos knowing very well the immorality of these people. is it because they happen to be fellow muslims? is that what islam teaches?

RainbowSix

'The soldiers didn't do anything at all. How can you say they are not innocent?
How would you like it if Singapore kidnaps two msia soldiers? Can we say its justified cos they ain't innocent?'

The point is, why would Sg soldiers kidnap Msian soldiers? For every action, there is a reason.

In this case, because Israel have many Lebanese captives in their possession. Secondly, it is an act of militancy against an occupying force. Those soldiers are combatants, they are not innocent as they represent Israeli occupation.

'They are terrorists. They always target civilians.'

What about Israel military action of assasinations? Via Apaches or whatever machines to kill others? Hey, this does not include those Mossad or whatever agents they sent to assasinate. They dont where uniforms too!

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RainbowSix

'According to UN resolutions Hezies suppose to be disarmed. So they are ILLEGAL.'

When it comes to Hezbollah, the UN resolution matters, but Israel is well know to disregard so many UN Resolutions. Is this suppose to go unscatched. This include returning all occupied lands and to scrap the building of the wall.

Debmey

The point is, why would Sg soldiers kidnap Msian soldiers? For every action, there is a reason.

it doesn't matter why we kidnap msian soldiers.
the point is, what will msia do if singapore were to kidnap msian soldiesr? do nothing? pretend nothing happened?

In this case, because Israel have many Lebanese captives in their possession. Secondly, it is an act of militancy against an occupying force. Those soldiers are combatants, they are not innocent as they represent Israeli occupation.

but why are these lebanese captives in the first place?
why would the israelis want to spend money to feed them?

'They are terrorists. They always target civilians.'

What about Israel military action of assasinations? Via Apaches or whatever machines to kill others? Hey, this does not include those Mossad or whatever agents they sent to assasinate. They dont where uniforms too!

those are terrorists. not civilians. thats why they don't wear uniforms.

Debmey

Originally posted by RainbowSix at 19-3-2007 10:19 PM
'According to UN resolutions Hezies suppose to be disarmed. So they are ILLEGAL.'

When it comes to Hezbollah, the UN resolution matters, but Israel is well know to disregard so many UN Resolu ...

if you muslims disregard UN resolutions, why expect israelis to abide by them? Silly right?

capable_warrior

Now are we talking about muslims or hizballah?  Dammit, Dweeb pick one!  You need to get out more often.  Seriously, all this intellectual diatribe is bad for you and it shows.  You can't disinguish from fact and fiction.

IceMallet

Israel planned for lebanon War?..Israel also planned to lose the war also ka?

Debmey

Originally posted by capable_warrior at 20-3-2007 09:24 AM
Now are we talking about muslims or hizballah?  Dammit, Dweeb pick one!  You need to get out more often.  Seriously, all this intellectual diatribe is bad for you and it shows.  You can't disingu ...

hezbo is muslim right?
palestinians are muslims right?
iran is muslim right?

IceMallet

There we have it u guys, the Dubuk with his anti-Mulsim rhetorics...well, at least he is consistent..

Debmey

and you fellas have consistently not been able to explain your actions.

IceMallet

U r consistent..at being a gay idiot huhuhu

Originally posted by Nick_Perelman at 17-3-2007 03:28 AM
Borders are not defined yet.
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So that makes it right???

I dont know what u saw. May be you understood wrong. I can bet with you on 100,000$ that there is no any Jewush only areas. I am absolutly serious.

Dont bet with me... gambling is forbidden in Islam... tell it to Discovery Travel & Living Channel... they said like that...

From 2000-2006 Hezies made provocations on monthly basis. They fired thousands mortars, antitank missiles etc. 8 months since the war no SINGLE BULLET was fired by Hezies towards Israel. Armed Hezies dont walk anymore, instead we have Lebanese army and strong international force. And Nasrallah that freely lived in Beirut today hides in bunker like rat.

So it's true they didn't reach their objective lah...

Originally posted by Debmey at 20-3-2007 10:17 AM


hezbo is muslim right?
palestinians are muslims right?
iran is muslim right?

Wrong Debbie... too much hatred of Muslims have blinded your facts again... Hizbullah may be made up entirely of Muslims but Palestine & Iran consists of non-Muslims too...

The Church of Nativity where Palestinian Christians worship fired upon by Zionists tanks...





So... still think the Zionists love or respect your Christian faith??

rurouni_khairul

Doubt it...