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Post time 26-4-2007 10:04 PM | Show all posts |Read mode
Who are you??

put aside your name;
put aside your sex;
put aside your race;
put aside your nationality;
put aside what you own;
put aside your religion (jz answering this, NEVER abandon your religion)


why some of you are hot tempered;
why some of you are timid;
why some of you are kind;
et al.......

why??


NOW.......... WHO ARE YOU??
deep inside... have you ever wonder??? who are you?

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Post time 26-4-2007 11:43 PM | Show all posts

Reply #1 wei_loon5063's post

I'm what I'm
I'm who I perceived to be
I'm the product of my parents
I'm who I'm coz I know what I want in my life

and last but not least~~ I'm what God's made me   

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Post time 26-4-2007 11:57 PM | Show all posts
I AM!
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 Author| Post time 26-4-2007 11:58 PM | Show all posts

Reply #2 dutchy's post

I'm what I'm
what are you??

I'm who I perceived to be
what do you perceive yourself to be??

I'm the product of my parents
I know that... I also know your dad is male and your mum is female

I'm who I'm coz I know what I want in my life
what you want in life?


[ Last edited by  wei_loon5063 at 27-4-2007 12:37 AM ]
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Post time 27-4-2007 02:47 PM | Show all posts
I think therefore I am
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 Author| Post time 27-4-2007 02:48 PM | Show all posts

Reply #5 ibnur's post

????


it is the easiet question but most difficult to answer   
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Post time 27-4-2007 02:53 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by wei_loon5063 at 27-4-2007 02:48 PM
????


it is the easiet question but most difficult to answer   



Or is it difficult for you?
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 Author| Post time 27-4-2007 02:56 PM | Show all posts

Reply #7 ibnur's post

yes.........

I mean throw away those thing I mentioned.. can you explain who are you???
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Post time 27-4-2007 03:02 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by wei_loon5063 at 27-4-2007 02:56 PM
yes.........

I mean throw away those thing I mentioned.. can you explain who are you???



yes....   come and see myself.
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 Author| Post time 27-4-2007 03:07 PM | Show all posts

Reply #9 ibnur's post

explain more detail.. what you see about yourself??
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Post time 27-4-2007 08:11 PM | Show all posts
I'm what I'm
what are you??

I'm a person with a high believe in myself, knowing in the comfort, that I can and will achieve things, that I set out to get

I'm who I perceived to be
what do you perceive yourself to be??


I perceived myself to be a kind human being, compassionate towards other beings


I'm the product of my parents
I know that... I also know your dad is male and your mum is female


What I'm trying to say here is that, what I'm now is not just, a biological outcome of them being together,
I'm a person now, with all my attributes thanks largely, to a proper upbringing, where the emphazised in on being kind and thoughtfull  

I'm who I'm coz I know what I want in my life

what you want in life?

I want to be the best that I can be.....in all areas

  

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 Author| Post time 27-4-2007 09:58 PM | Show all posts

Reply #11 dutchy's post

ok........

do you ever wonder....

why some people are arrogant; some people are humble some are kind etc??

of course... minus all the name; race religion

y??
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Post time 27-4-2007 10:01 PM | Show all posts

Reply #12 wei_loon5063's post

wouldn't it be a dull world, if all of us are cut out from the same wood?

The difference in behaviours is what colours the world

and now for you to answer all the question that, you've given me   
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 Author| Post time 27-4-2007 10:08 PM | Show all posts

Reply #13 dutchy's post

which question??

I think if ask who I am minus all the thing,

the best i can explain is my personality or character....

WHY i am like this I have no idea..... minus the environment background
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Post time 27-4-2007 11:07 PM | Show all posts
you can't minus facts to get answers.

religion, nationality, race, gender and all that you minus are those that made us.
ex: parents or guardian have some role in it.  didn't your parents or guardian teach you what you need to know?
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 Author| Post time 28-4-2007 01:16 AM | Show all posts

Reply #15 ibnur's post

That I know....

but what I see is that it symbolise me.....not really portray me.....
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Post time 28-4-2007 10:47 AM | Show all posts

Reply #14 wei_loon5063's post

huh?? don't quite understand

Why u are like this ~ minus the environment background??

Care to elaborate
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 Author| Post time 28-4-2007 04:16 PM | Show all posts

Reply #17 dutchy's post

add bit buddhism..... don worry.... I do not talk about god.. keep your god in your heart.... buddhism is just about awakened from consciousness

I mean.. who I really am.... have you ever wonder... a person is born... why some is kind; some are violent... as a child that grow up together?? eat same thing, same parent.......

have you ever wonder this???

and also deja vu.......  why sometimes you see thing that you experience before....

buddhism can explain all this....

reincarnation or rebirth... it is only a term... don`t get too into the word...

what buddha say is consciousness......NOT soul.... have you ever wonder?? what is conscious??
the environment..... is the elements that shape you in what you are today....

you see a tree.... the tree is strong or torn... why? what you see is sunshine and strong wind... that element shape the tree to what you see today... not what the tree really is......

imagine this... a cup with water inside... what do you have? a cup of water

if the glass breaks... what do you have? a broken glass and water

then you take tower and wipe it.. what do you have?? still water....

it then dries.... what do you have?? water in vapour form....

it then condenses. what do you have? waer again into cup of tea.........

it is this pass and future conscious of our mind that makes us who we are............

the monks.... can see who you were in pass life.. you might say I am bull$#

think this

why you are so hot tempered now...why

No matter how hard you try you cant stop from being angry.........

this is conscious..if you ask yourself this question.........

NOT soul... ok? the soul maybe go to heaven or hell

and it is this ME who I want to know............ get it??

for your information......

I once went to this temple.. I did one bad thing when I was small. only I knew what I did in the world.......

the monks saw me and ask me come over and whisper.. saying that what I did is wrong... do not do that again...

they can see into our mind....THIS IS NOT what the west called pyschic..... NO....

you too can see people`s mind.. NO.. NOT by worshipping buddha...

jz through meditation... see who you are inside... you can do this......

close your eye... try relax... imagine yourself hide aside in your mind.. see the things that appear in your mind... the vision

do not interrupt by THINKING..... just OBSERVE your mind.... you will see how chaotic; restless; desire; suffering your self is.

why??? why are you conscious?? and what is conscious what is dream what is reality???

harap maklum

[ Last edited by  wei_loon5063 at 28-4-2007 04:49 PM ]
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Post time 28-4-2007 05:50 PM | Show all posts
In the malay community there is this 'nujum' or fortune teller where some ignorant people will go to seek help everytime they lost something precious like jewellery etc or everytime they want to know what will happen to them in the near future or what have happened to them in the past ( losing stuff or loved ones ) and this fortune teller can tell them where and who took  the jewellery by just looking into a bowl of water for example . According to Islam this act of seeking help from ANY sort of fortune teller is wrong because the one that assists the fortune teller in making all this so call 'predictions' is the SATAN or a jinn who is trying to mislead human beings from the path of Islam. I've even heard of buddhists monk who are good at casting magic spell and when some really ignorant malays go to these monks ( near the Thailand border ) to seek help in lets say killing of competition in business for example these monks are able to cast spell to their competitors and strange things will happen to the competitors , being unable to open their business successfully etc. These are all acts of SIHIR which is a kind of witchcraft which according to Islam exists but muslims should not fear it since only God can cause harm or benefit so they should depend on God alone to protect them from these sort of evil acts and when they truly follow the teaching of the Holy Quran then God will make all of these evil acts of witchcrafts or whatever go in vain thus they will be safe from being harmed by it in any way.

[ Last edited by  free2rhyme at 28-4-2007 05:51 PM ]
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 Author| Post time 28-4-2007 06:11 PM | Show all posts

free2rhyme

haven seen you in a while..............


In the malay community there is this 'nujum' or fortune teller where some ignorant people will go to seek help everytime they lost something precious like jewellery etc or everytime they want to know what will happen to them in the near future or what have happened to them in the past ( losing stuff or loved ones ) and this fortune teller can tell them where and who took  the jewellery by just looking into a bowl of water for example .
I know.......... the sesat one... what sadden me is that the Bomoh will claim that god has possess him and the woman need to have sexual intercourse with him in order to obtain the power given by god


According to Islam this act of seeking help from ANY sort of fortune teller is wrong because the one that assists the fortune teller in making all this so call 'predictions' is the SATAN or a jinn who is trying to mislead human beings from the path of Islam.
I also know that.. did my previos post makes you think of fortune teller??by the way... the astrology also a kind of fortune telling...anything that predict the future is fortune telling.....right? even a teacher say if you study hard; you can succeed...(this story is getting old.....)  

I've even heard of buddhists monk who are good at casting magic spell and when some really ignorant malays go to these monks ( near the Thailand border ) to seek help in lets say killing of competition in business for example these monks are able to cast spell to their competitors and strange things will happen to the competitors , being unable to open their business successfully etc.
I also know..... like some muslims in malaysia.. they are corrupted and biases from the original teaching of original religion..
I hate to say this... but they biased the original teaching of religion (islam; christian; jews etc.... )
Their power sometimes are undeniable and suffering....
guess you haven seen the power of the thai so called "buddhist" monks....
they can cast spell and hammer; nail knife can be found in your stomach.... I do not know where do they have such power from.........

These are all acts of SIHIR which is a kind of witchcraft which according to Islam exists but muslims should not fear it since only God can cause harm or benefit so they should depend on God alone to protect them from these sort of evil acts and when they truly follow the teaching of the Holy Quran then God will make all of these evil acts of witchcrafts or whatever go in vain thus they will be safe from being harmed by it in any way.
insyallah........
same in buddhism...... before buddhism reach place like thai, kemboja, vietnam, these ancient witchcraft still exist...
even other religion take over.... still it exist.......
islam taken place in msia for so many years now.... still some people are stil with bomoh........

oohh..btw
don`t misunderstood me.... my explanation was excluded super being to avoid any misconception.......hope to share and learn more....in teaching I will learn; in learning I will teach

ciao

[ Last edited by  wei_loon5063 at 28-4-2007 06:14 PM ]
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