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Kelas Bahasa Jepun (Nihongo)

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Post time 4-9-2007 01:11 PM | Show all posts |Read mode
doumo

memandangkn kt sini cm ramai je peminat J-Ent.....elok la kalo aku bukak thread Nihongo kt sini...supaye sume peminat2 J-Ent dan jugak owang lain, bleh blaja nihongo sesame

aku akan skip part Hiragana n Katakana, kire aku aggp kowang sume dh tau la tulisan tu...tp pd sape yg tk tau lagik, kasitau je aku n aku akan letak notes utk kedue2 writings tu.....dlm thread ni sesape pon bleh kongsi ilmu nihongo diowang....bkn aku je yg kene letak notes ke ape ke....sape2 nk letak notes ke ape ke, douzo

satu lg, kalo ade silap ke ape ke (dove senpai, tlg aku kalo silap wakakaka).....tolong perbtolkn aku sbb aku pn masih blaja lagik nihongo...so tk pandai sgt

sape yg tkleh bace tulisan jepun, aku nasihatkn g install windows IME ke ape tah...cube masuk website microsoft...tu pn emiko yg ajar aku
yoroshiku onegaishimasu

ok skang aku mulekan dgn memende kt bwh ni dlu :-

Nihongo Lesson 1

Basic Japanese Sounds

Japanese sounds mmg agak sng utk kite dgr n pronounce...setiap syllable die simple n short dan besenye dipronounce very clearly...
aku akan mulekn ngan vowels and consonants dlm nihongo...aku akan letakkan dedue jenis tulisan dlm contoh aku...meaning ade romaji n tulisan jepun...supaye kowang lehphm...




Vowel Sounds

nihongo ade 5 basic vowels - "a, i, u, e, o"...."あ、い、う、え、お"
nihongo gk ade die punye longer counterparts, represented by "aa, ii, uu, ee, oo"

perbezaan antare long vowel n short vowel bleh memberi maksud yg berlainan utk sesuatu perkataan jepun tu...contohnya, "obasan" (おばさん ), short vowel"a" yg bermaksud makcik...manakala, "obaasan" (おばあさん ), long vowel "a"yg bermaksud nenek...kalo kite tk differentiate the vowel length properly, owang tkkan phm ape yg kite ckp....tu pentingnye pjg pendek dlm bahse jepun ni




Vowel Combination

in nihongo, any two vowels can be next to each other in a word....but u might hear them as one vowel....contoh cam "ai" (あい : love)...bunyi cm 1 vowel...cam bunyi "eye"...tp kalo ikut nihongo kene sebut "a + i"...cam sebut name owang "ayi"
begitu jugak ngan "mae" (まえ : front)...bunyi cam "my"...tp sebutan die sbnrnye "ma + e"....




Whispered Vowels

vowel "i" ngan "u" akan jd whispered vowels bile bertemu ngan consonant sounds "ch", "h", "k", "p", "s", "sh", "t" or "ts" atau perkataan yg berakhir ngan "consonant-vowel combination"....

contoh perkataan yg berada dlm kategori whispered vowels ialah "kusai" (くさい :stinky)....kite tkleh sebut "KU + sai"....tp kene sebut KU tu cam KU dlm bentuk berbisik...cm bunyi "ke"....kalo dlm bm, kite kene muncungkn mulut utk sebut KU...tp dlm jepun tkyah buat gtu...mulut separa tutup....lidah saje yg sebut KU....eceyyy cm kelas sebutan plak wakakakaak

beberape contoh lagik ialah "sugoi" (すごい : amazing,wow)...."kagu" (かぐ : furniture)....ikut care sebutan yg cm aku ajar td, begitu jugak ngn "tsunami" (つなみ : tidal wave)....bkn cam "tsu" sebutan die...tp cam "tse"....kalo tk reti gk, aku leh terang lg




Double Consonants

cam bahse lain gk, nihongo pn ade double consonants....antare double consonants dlm nihongo ialah - "pp", "tt", "kk", "ss"...care nk pronounce die sng aje....you pronounce them as single consonants preceded by a brief pause....contoh perkataan ialah "kekkon" (file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/lynn/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot-36.jpgけっこん : marriage)...sebut cam "kek + kon"....cam ade pause sket antare kek ngan kon....





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Nihongo Lesson 2

Basic Phrases

Doumo (どうも )  = Thank You / Hi
- digunekn utk ckp Time Kaseh dan jugak utk brief greetings...

Iie (いいえ )  = No / Dont Mention It
-contoh kalo cm kite tolong owang, tlg angkat brg ke ape ke..pastu owangtu ckp arigatou....so kite pn ckp la "iie iie"...dlm bm die cm "tkpe,tkpe"...lebey kurang la

Sou sou (そう そう )  = You're Right...You're Right
- digunekn bile kite agree with someone's statement..n nmpk cm kite dgr n setuju ngan die...

Dame (だめ )  = You're Not Allowed To Do That / That's Bad!
-digunekan bile kite nk stop someone doing something or when u want tosay something is bad or impermissible...tp tkleh gune bile ckp ngansuperior atau owang lebey tua...ngan kekanak or kwn dsbnye bleh  la...

Zenzen (ぜんぜん )  = Not At All / It Was Nothing
- contoh kalo owang ckp "ko rindu kt aku ke?"....kite jwb la "zenzen!" <-- meaning "tak langsung!"

Ii Desu Ne (いい です ね )  = That's A Great Idea

Yatta! (やった! )  = Yahoo!, I Did It...

Ganbatte (がんばって )  = Gor For It / Try Your Best!

Omedetou (おめでとう )  = Congratulations!
- ni kalo tk formal..kalo formal, kene sebut penuh "Omedetou Gozaimasu" (おめでとう ございます )

Youkoso (ようこそ ) = Welcome

Shinpai Shinaide (しんぱい しないで ) = Dont Worry
- kalo nk gune ayat penuh, bleh gune "Shinpai Shinaide Kudasai"...kalo tk formal, Shinpai Nai...

Makasete ( まかせて ) = Count On Me
- kalo gune ayat penuh / formal...leh ckp "Makasete Kudasai"

Sono Touri (その とうり ) = You're Absolutely Right



ade setengah phrases yg ade perkataan "kudasai"....aku rase ramai  yg tau kudasai tu maksudnye ape...tp nk letak "kudasai" tu kene tgk ayat tudlm form ape...yg ni sume kemudian aku terangkn




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Nihongo Lesson 3

Basic Japanese Grammar

nihonjin ni menggunekn different speech styles depending on who they're talking to....contohnye kalo nk tanye satu soklan yg simple cam "Did you see it?"....care kite ckp dlm nihongo adalah berbeza mengikut jenis owang yg ditujukan soklan tu...kalo ckp ngan boss, kene gune formal style of speech, "Goran ni narima$hita ka" (ごらん に なりました か )....

kalo ckp ngan colleague, kene gune polite/neutral form , "Mima$hita ka" (みました か )....

kalo ckp ngan bebudak plak, bleh gunekn plain/informal type of speech.... "Mita no" (みた の )...

kalo kowang prasan, the phrase becomes shorter and shorter as u go down in the relative hierarchy from ur boss to ur kids....nihonjin mmg gini, ngan superior die akan cube utk ckp selengkap mgkn, sehormat mgkn....




Forming Sentences

the basic word order dlm eigo (エイゴ : english ) is "Subject - Verb - Object"...tp kalo dlm nihongo, susunan die ialah "Subject - Object - Verb".....maknenye, instead of saying "I watched TV", kite kene ckp "I TV watched"......instead of saying "I ate sushi"....kene ckp "I sushi ate"....papehal pon, plg penting skali...PUT THE VERB AT THE END!!


ok, mlm ni aku akan ajar " Particles" plak





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mlm kang aku akan pindahkn nihongo lesson 1,2,3 dr bod SO ke thread ni k
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Post time 4-9-2007 01:53 PM | Show all posts
waahhh... ader kls nihongo. bleh belajar...
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Post time 4-9-2007 02:17 PM | Show all posts
leh blajar ngan lebih mendlm lagi...
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Post time 4-9-2007 02:37 PM | Show all posts
horayyyy.....buleh lah eden asah bahasa jepun yg tumpul nie.:pompom: :pompom:
buleh le skodeng haru dan aki chan....
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Post time 4-9-2007 02:40 PM | Show all posts

Reply #7 ayie77's post

kt cnie pon ade haru ngan aki.. sabo jer la mare mod lin taw
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Post time 4-9-2007 02:44 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Ley at 4-9-2007 02:40 PM
kt cnie pon ade haru ngan aki.. sabo jer la mare mod lin taw


lin chan tak marah punye...kan lin chan.
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Post time 4-9-2007 02:55 PM | Show all posts
tahniah atas pembukaan thread belajar bahasa jepun ni...:victory:


dan seperti biasa rules utk thread ni...

x ada borak2 benda lain...semuanya adalah BELAJAR DAN BERKENAAN BAHASA JEPUN SAHAJA


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Post time 4-9-2007 02:55 PM | Show all posts
yokatta.. ingatkan class nihongo ado kat umah anime aje.. since kat sini baru nk mula, ok jugak... huhu hangul pun blajo sekerat jalan aje
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Post time 4-9-2007 03:12 PM | Show all posts
lin san, nak tanye caner cara kalo kite nak amik course (kat U or College) untuk blajar nihon go and teaching nihon go?
kene gi japan gak ke? mcm cth kalao nak jadi cikgu english kene gi amik TESL course kat U kan?
caner lak cara nak jadi cikgu nihon go?
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Reply #12 sh|nobu's post

haaa soklan yg bagus...sbbnye aku pn mmg nk smbg jd cekgu nihongo...
jd adela sket2 info yg bleh dikongsi....
yg aku tau la, kalo nk jd cekgu nihongo ni seelok2nye g jepun..
tk penah lg dgr kos utk ngajar nihongo ni dioffer di dlm negare...

ko ade 2 pilihan...sama ada nk dibiaya atau nk g lanjutkn pelajaran ngan menggunekn duit sendrik...

kalo ko nk gune duit sendrik, sng aje....
ko leh buat persediaan kt IBT seputeh selame beberape bulan, duduk EJU sume...pastu sblm fly ke jpn, kene carik U dlu...penempatan U adalah berdasarkn markah EJU kite...
lg tinggi markah EJU tu, lg cerah peluang utk kite masuk ke universiti rank A di jepun...
EJU ni kire cm exam kemasukan ke Universiti di Jepun
kalo ko tkmo duk persediaan kt sini...ko bleh gk tros  buat kt jepun..kene carik U tros...tp kalo tk silap, ko still kene duduk EJU kot b4 ko g jepun...


let say ko tkde duit so ko nk mntak biasiswa or loan or wutsoever....
yg plg sng skali, cube mintak kt kedutaan jepun (MONBUSHO)...
sbb diowang ade biaya bebudak yg nk smbg jd cekgu jepun...under skim cekgu2 ni la..
tp syaratnye ialah kite perlu lalui segale ujian dlu...
anta borang sume...pastu kene tggu kejap...sepjg sethn tu akan ade byk stages..kalo lepas sume stages, thn berikutnye baru dpt smbg ke jepun...yg EJU tu aku tk pastila kene duduk ke tidak ape sume....

tu jela yg aku bleh kongsi pon



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Post time 4-9-2007 03:59 PM | Show all posts
Cak...saje nak nyebok kat rumah baru

Nihongo [yoku] hanasemasen....
(I'm not good in Nihongo)

Cikgu, betul ke pronouns nyer....

Japanese tounge twister...

Uraniwa niwa niwa, niwa niwa niwa, niwatori ari.
(In the back yard there are two chickens and in the front yard there are two chickens)
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Reply #13 lin_okinawa's post

arigatou lin san....this is a good advice...
banyak jugak stage nye ek. kalau dah tua tua cenggini masih bole ke nak ikut kursus persediaan kat IBT ke? watashi wa 27-sai desu.
aku berminat la gak nak jadi tutor nihon go. sbb pikir2 kalau nak gi nihon blaja technical stuff hampeh kot aku... blaja language best sket....
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Post time 4-9-2007 04:59 PM | Show all posts
kene amik degree ke kat nihon? brapa taun eh? kalo diploma je bule x? hihih...kalau sampai 4 taon kat nihon sian lak laki aku. hihihi kalau die dpt join ANA okla jugak, dua2 leh dok sana.
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Post time 4-9-2007 05:40 PM | Show all posts
harap leh ajar dari yang paling basic....
sblm ni aku dok masuk kat thread nihongo ni dah beratus-ratus page...
nak tanyer mender yg simple2 pong segan....
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Reply #16 sh|nobu's post

yg ni aku rase bleh tanye kt bod overseas atau pn kt bod students...sbb situ ko leh tanye dak yg blaja kt jepun tros..kot kot ade yg tau ke
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Reply #17 nzhass79's post

jgn sesegan tanye...aku atau owang lain bleh cube jwb kalo kitowang tau
aku akan cube ajar dr yg asas, so ko jgn risau
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Nihongo Lesson 4

Particles / Joshi

Subject - Object - Verb is the basic word order in nihongo....tp kalo Object - Subject - Verb is also ok...as long as the verb is at the end of the sentence....

contohnye ialah, kalo nk ckp "Mary invited John"...kite bleh ckp "Mary John invited" atau "John Mary invited"...cm aku ckp la, asalkn verb dkt blakang...verb tu dlm bm "kate kerje" kot

kalo tgk ayat tu...musti kowang konpius kan....musti kowang tertanye2..how do i know who invited whom?? haaaa.. the secret is that nihonjin use a little tag called a "particle" or "joshi" (じょし ) right after each noun phrase....

particle "ga" (が ) adalah utk action performer.....dan particle "wo" (を ) plak adalah utk action receiver....

contoh ayatnye ialah :-

"Mari ga Jon wo sasotta" (マリ が ジョン を せそった )
"Jon wo Mari ga sasotta" (ジョン を マリ が せそった )

particle "ga" ngan "wo" ni cant be translated in english...sori....tp kalo particle lain cam "kara", "made", "to" etc tu bleh la tuka ke english....each particle is translated differently depending on the context...jap lg aku akan kasik list of particles, bile dan utk ayat ape yg patot digunekn...

pendpt aku la...translation is not always the best way to figure out a foreign language...so kowang kene igt the particles in terms of their general functions, bkn  die nye exact english translations....kalo tau kegunaan die, sng la nk praktikkan setiap mende yg dipelajari....




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Reply #20 lin_okinawa's post

nie lin eden nk tanye...malu lak

cth le..kngkdg name kiter tu cm tertukou..
Linda-Rinda
jack-jyakku
bob-bobbu
tol ke ek? ..kalo salah gomen ne..baru nk belajo taw
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sambungan....

Particles / Joshi

"ga" (が ) - specifies the subject of the sentence....contohnye, "Jon ga kita" (John came)....maknenye subjek pd ayat kite ialah John....kite tgh ckp psl John atau kite tgh tumpukn ayat kite pd John....so bile kite crite kt owang, then owang tau yg cite kite ni adalah psl John...


"wo" (を ) - specifies the direct object of the sentence....contohnye, "Mari ga Jon wo sasotta" (Mary invited John)...aku nk terangkn pn sbnrnye tk reti kalo "wo" ni...tp besenye die gunekn bile kite tgh ckp sesuatu "action"....cam "tgh mkn roti" (Pan wo tabemasu)...."tgh main tenis" (tenisu wo shimasu)....wo ni adalah objek yg menunjukkan sesuatu action....*kalo tk phm gk, jgn segan utk suh aku ulang atau setsumei (explain) lagik k*


"wa" (は ) - specifies the topic of the sentence...contoh ayat, "Kyou wa ii tenki desu ne" (It's nice today, isnt it?)..."Kore wa nani?" (What is this?)...dlm tulisan jepun, die gunekn hiragana "ha"...tp sebutan die utk particle ialah "wa"...kalo selain dr particle baru disebut "ha"...


"kara" (から )
- specifies the starting point of the action....contohnye, "Kuu ji kara benkyou$hita" (I studied from 9 o'clock)....atau dlm eigo (english) die ialah "from"


"made" (まで )
- specifies the ending point of the action....contohnye, "San ji made benkyou$hita" (I studied until 3 o'clock).....atau dlm eigo (english) die ialah "until"


"ni" (に )
- specifies the target of the action....contohnye, "Nihon ni itta" (I went to Japan)...."Tokyo ni tsuita" (I arrived at Tokyo).....particle "ni" ni jugak digunekn utk specifies the time of the event...contohnye, "San ji ni tsuita" (I arrived at 3 o'clock)....dlm eigo nye ialah "to", "on", "at"....


"e" (へ )
- specifies the direction of the action...contohnye, "Tokyo e itta" (I went to Tokyo)....kalo kowang prasan, kalo nk ckp "I went to Tokyo", kite bleh gune 2 particles...sama ada "ni" atau "e"...dedue same je...kalo nk gtau psl "tempat"....igt yer, wpon ejaan hiragana utk "e" ni adalah hiragana "he", tp sebutan die adalah "e"....melainkn kalo kite nk ckp selain dr particle..contoh cam "hebi" (ular)...then baru sebut "he + bi"...kalo particle aje sebut "e"

p/s: "ni" ngan "e" ni cam destinasi (tmpt) yg kite nk ckp...bile kite gune particle tu, maknenye subjek atau objek kite nk kearah itu....hopefully kowang phm la


"de" (で )
- specifies how the action takes place....indicates the location, the manner, or the background condition of the action....contohnye, "Takushi de itta" (I went there by taxi)....."Fouku de tabeta" (I ate with a fork)....dlm eigo (english) nye ialah "in", "by", "with", "at"....

p/s: bile gune particle "de" ni, lebey pd maksud yg nunjukkan kite gune ape utk buat sesuatu tu, dengan ape, dimane, bagaimane....lebey kurang gtulaa...kalo ade "destinasi", then tkleh la nk gune "de"


"no" (の )
- creates a possessive phrase or a modifier phrase....contohnye, "Mari no hon" (Mary's book)....."Nihongo no hon" (Japanese language book)....pendek kate cam "kepunyaan"....bkn setakat itu saje, tp "no" ni byk lg kegunaan die yg mendalam...tp itu aku akan terangkn kemudian...sbb aku tkmo kasik kowang konpius


"to" (と )
- Lists items....contohnye, "Sushi to sashimi wo tabeta" (I ate sushi and sashimi)...maknenye kite nk senaraikn beberape action atau mende atau pape je....tp bkn sume mende yg kite nk list bleh gune "to"... sbb "to" digunekn kalo nk listkn 2 mende atau action sahaje...kalo nk senarai up to 3 mende pn cm tk sesuai gune "to...tp tu kemudian aku terangkn....

selain dr tu, particle "to" jugak digunekn utk specifies the co-agent of the action...contohnye, "Jon ga Mari to utatta" (John sang with Mary)....maknenye kite nk gtau kite tgh buat sumthing tu "dengan siapa"....."bersama siapa"...lebey kurang gtu laa....


"ka" (か )
- lists choices....contohnye, "Sushi ka sashimi wo taberu" (I will eat sushi or sashimi)....atau dlm eigo (english) nye adalah "or"....kalo kite nk pilih antare bebyk tu, kenela gune particle "ka".....satu lg "ka" ni digunekn utk ayat tanye...kt blakang kene include "ka" utk menggantikan tande soal ( ? )....buat mase ni, aku cume akan terangkn particle yg simple aje...ade lagik particle lain...tp tu sume aku akan terangkn kemudian kemudian kemudian

esk mlm aku akan ajar cene nk buat ayat...mane yg patot letak dlu, mane yg kemudian dan sbgnye





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Reply #21 Ley's post

btol...sbb tu ikut sebutan jepun
nihonjin ni die tkleh sebut L...terbalek plak ngan chuugokujin (chinese)...chuugokujin die bleh sebut L tp  bukan R....

sbb tu name yg ade huruf L akan tuka jd R...Lin akan tuka jd Rin
dan...kene igt jugak, ade setengah huruf cam M...B etc...kalo berakhir akan digabungkn ngan U...cam Bobbu...padahal ejaan die Bob aje...

sbbnye tulisan jepun tkde yg berakhir ngan B....kalo Rin tu dlm ejaan atau sebutan jepun ialah "RI + N" kan???
sbb dlm jepun ade sebutan utk RI ngan N iaitu (り ) ngan (ん )...

tp kalo Bob....dlm jepun mmg ade "BO"...tp "B" saje tkde....sbb tu die tmbh  ngan U kt blakang....

mgkn ade setengah owang tanye, nape tk tmbh "O" ke..."I" ke...tp nape "U"??
sbnrnye die ikut perkataan jugak....kalo BOB jd Bobbu....kalo KIM jd Kimu.....kalo HAIR (rambut) , sebutan "heya" sket....ejaan die tk sure, tp sebutan cm "heya"....tu ade jugak yg berakhir ngan "A"....jd die ikut sebutan....agak susah nk terangkn....kene besekn dgr kaiwa (conversation) jepun....

mgkn setsumei (explanation) aku tk bape jitu...bleh jugak kalo nk cube tanye pro pro nihongo ni dkt bod languages
kalo ade yg silap, tlg btolkan yeh
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Post time 4-9-2007 10:27 PM | Show all posts
wah! best best! good work lin-san!
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Post time 4-9-2007 10:49 PM | Show all posts
Meh shin tambah2 sket apa yang shin blaja

THE DAYS OF THE WEEK
nichi-youbi  = Sunday
getsu-youbi = Monday
ka-youbi  = Tuesday
sui-youbi  = Wednesday
moku-youbi = Thursday
kin-youbi = Friday
do-youbi = Saturday
nan-youbi = what day

example :
Kyo wa nan-youbi desu ka. (Hari ini hari apa?)
Kyo wa ka-youbi desu. (Hari ini hari Selasa) or jwpn pendek : Ka-youbi desu.

Yasumi wa do-youbi to nichi-youbi desu. (Hari cuti ialah Sabtu dan Ahad)

Watashi wa getsu-youbi kara kin-youbi made hatarakimasu. (Saya bekerja dari Isnin hingga Jumaat)
(Saya    +    Isnin           dari     Jumaat   hingga + bekerja) <-- direct translation


Ganbatte kudasai!

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