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Author: gancity       Show all posts   Read mode

Post time 12-10-2006 03:19 PM | Show all posts
You think any of these tanks stand a chance against the Hellfire?
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Post time 12-10-2006 06:21 PM | Show all posts
Well the Hellfire completely in different league with land hand held or shoulder fired anti-armour missile, I think even the M1 Abrams Tank  can't stand Hellfire...

Just my 1 cent opinion...
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Post time 12-10-2006 07:47 PM | Show all posts
since the 105mm PRG 29 is good enough to peneprate T90 with ERA, I think they shld somehow merge its warhead with ATGMs.

You just can't expect a good hit with RPGs all the time.
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Post time 12-10-2006 08:41 PM | Show all posts
The test failed to mention whether the T-90 is local or for export version, but since the test done by the Russian in Russia, I think the tset subject is not an export version

The fact that a low cost light weight RPG 29 able to penetrate the latest russian tank with Era package is totally impressive !
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Post time 12-10-2006 10:19 PM | Show all posts
That makes the deployment of tanks much more restricted.
A tank needs to move fast all the time in operations theater or be dead. That will bring a whole new set of problems to the tank. I'll rather invest in a lot of cheap & mobile anti tank weapons than in tanks.
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Post time 13-10-2006 08:08 AM | Show all posts

Reply #6 Debmey's post

so debs what do you think our army is doing all this while...do you realise that unknowingly you have validated our armed forces modus operandi
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Post time 13-10-2006 09:10 AM | Show all posts
More so for Singapore. We don't invest in battle tanks but tank killing helos, we also make our own anti tank RPG. Its call the Matador.

basically tanks like PT91 are very heavy and can get stuck in mud very easily in local terrain, they may even overturn if they travel too fast over undulating terrain.
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Post time 13-10-2006 09:13 AM | Show all posts

Reply #8 Debmey's post

not to argue over a dead horse again debs...(how many times already huh) but we'll see
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Reply #8 Debmey's post

different country different need...ur country jst like a small RED BEAN size... so no invest in MBT... tats it... PT-91M consider light compare others western MBT...
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Post time 13-10-2006 09:21 AM | Show all posts
Singapore dont invest in tanks?? are you claiming all the Challenger/Chieftain Class tanks you guys put in Taiwan are sold off as scrap already??  Singapore has no tanks??
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Reply #11 mat_toro's post

they put in Taiwan? tis i not sure as i know onli they put alot fighter jet at foregin country...by the way matador may not affect out PT-91M
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Post time 13-10-2006 09:38 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by gancity at 13-10-2006 09:24 AM
they put in Taiwan? tis i not sure as i know onli they put alot fighter jet at foregin country...by the way matador may not affect out PT-91M


They don't have enough land to store them...

Matador may not have effect??  And the basis of this claim is??
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Post time 13-10-2006 09:56 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by mat_toro at 13-10-2006 09:21 AM
Singapore dont invest in tanks?? are you claiming all the Challenger/Chieftain Class tanks you guys put in Taiwan are sold off as scrap already??  Singapore has no tanks??



Those are old Centurion tanks lah. bought 2nd hand long time ago. Not chieftain or Challenger.
We just upgrade our light AMX13s to kill tanks and for close field  firepower.
In other words, hardly any investments into battle tanks.
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Post time 13-10-2006 10:20 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 13-10-2006 09:56 AM



Those are old Centurion tanks lah. bought 2nd hand long time ago. Not chieftain or Challenger.
We just upgrade our light AMX13s to kill tanks and for close field  firepower.
In other word ...


aiyahh... thanks for correcting me... I knew it was Brit model but forgot which type

But tanks still have their relevancy on open terrain...
maybe not for singapore's terrain which is why you don't need tanks in the first place... but our terrain still relevant...
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Post time 13-10-2006 11:28 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by gancity at 13-10-2006 09:24 AM
they put in Taiwan? tis i not sure as i know onli they put alot fighter jet at foregin country...by the way matador may not affect out PT-91M



I do not know the penetration power of Matador but since it is a new weapon, I think it can take on ERA. Its a very light and short weapon, great for infantry.
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Post time 13-10-2006 11:42 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 13-10-2006 11:28 AM



I do not know the penetration power of Matador but since it is a new weapon, I think it can take on ERA. Its a very light and short weapon, great for infantry.


Is it a dedicated anti-armor or more towards anti-personnel??
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Post time 13-10-2006 12:14 PM | Show all posts
anti personnel can use M203.
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Post time 13-10-2006 12:22 PM | Show all posts

Reply #18 Debmey's post

203 have trouble clearing out bunkers... it's a projectile... not a rocket propelled armament... accuracy in combat and in a hurry also lousy... have to raise body to launch & expose yourself...
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Post time 13-10-2006 12:53 PM | Show all posts


Some info about Matador..

http://www.mindef.gov.sg/weapons/matador/weapontalk.htm

the RAFAEL (Israeli) connection...

http://www.defense-update.com/directory/spike-sr.htm

[ Last edited by  ef/x at 13-10-2006 12:55 PM ]
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Post time 14-10-2006 01:12 AM | Show all posts
This trials story is nonsense.
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Post time 14-10-2006 01:55 PM | Show all posts

kekuatan tentera rusia

ade sape2 tau tak kekuatan sebenar tentera rusia
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Post time 14-10-2006 02:06 PM | Show all posts
kekuatannya...terletak pada huruf 'R'........


sorry joking...
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Post time 14-10-2006 02:36 PM | Show all posts
Kekuatan tentera Russia terletak kepada Strategic Missile Troop - kekuatan persenjataan misil yg dilengkapi persenjataan misil anti-pesawat udara, misil jarak dekat/ sederhana/, misil antara benua, misil taktikal nuklear.

Selain itu, kelebihan kuantiti dalam aset armor, artileri, udara & laut membolehkan Russia terus digeruni oleh negara lain, termasuk US.

Kekuatan Russia juga adalah keseluruhan  industri persenjataan yg mampu digerakpindah dlm masa yg singkat sekiranya berlaku sebarang konflik penaklukan ke tanahair Russia. Malahan, kelebihan Russia juga terletak kepada setiap anakwatan (lelaki & perempuan) yg boleh dikerah sepenuh masa untuk mempertahan 'Motherland'.
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Post time 14-10-2006 06:47 PM | Show all posts
Walau macamana kuat pun Rusia ni, terkencit jugak pekena dengan pejuang Chechen...La ni Rusia dah nak bergocoh dengan Georgia pulak....Putin ..Putin
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Post time 14-10-2006 08:37 PM | Show all posts
hi


russia defence doctrine stated that the main objective to depend on :


1.large armed forces

2.modern and superb navy armanda

3.ballastic missile


i wonder where is russia main naval base in Vladivostok....still fuctioning well....


regards



zarul
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