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My Christian friend asked: Why do Mohammed has so many wifes?

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Post time 14-11-2007 03:35 PM | Show all posts |Read mode
I dont know how to answer, but i know Mohammad has a wife as young as 9 years old. Why? What sould i tell her?
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Post time 14-11-2007 03:47 PM | Show all posts
Okay... if you study carefully about the backgrounds of Muhammad's wives, most of them were widows. In other words, Muhammad married them not for fun but actually to give protection for them, since most of their former husbands were died. However, there was only 1 wife whom Muhammad married her when she was not only virgin, but also very young, and she was Saidatina Aisyah, the daughter of Abu Bakar as-Siddiq. Abu Bakar entrusted his daughter under Muhammad's care, therefore it is the reason why Muhammad married Aisyah when she was very young.
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Post time 14-11-2007 03:59 PM | Show all posts
I totally agreed with leonhart, infact during that time there were so many battles againts the kuffar...so the men who were going to battlefield left behind them their widows. So, if you were man at that time and coming back from battlefield alive and you saw your best friends (who died in the battle) left their widows and children without protection (muslim were minorities at that time) so what is the best way to give protection to that women? The best way to protect the women are by marrying them.That is why most of Rasullulah's wives were widow who were old ladies.
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Post time 14-11-2007 04:12 PM | Show all posts
slapshock, kenapa you peduli sangat tengtag your christian friend.  Kalau mereka tahu adakah boleh mengubah kepercayaan mereka.  Mereka hanya nak mempersendakan Rasul kita.

Kalau di faham betul-betul semua isteri yang Nabi kita kahwin tu semuanya janda melainkan aisah.  Kalau Nabi kita kahwin kerana nafsu buat aper dia kahwin dengan Siti Khadijah yang berbezaan umur begitu jauh.  Nabi kita 25 tahun sedangkan Siti Khadijah sudah 40 tahun ketika mereka berkahwin.  Naib Muhammad seorang yang elok rupa parasnya.  Jadi tak ada masalah kalau baginda hendak berkahwin dengan anak dara.

Nabi Muhamad s.a.w. berkahwin dengan isteri-isteri yang lain pun selepas Siti Khadijah wafat.  Dia sangat sayang kepada Siti Khadijah sehingga Siti Aisah pun cemburu kerana dia selalu merindui Siti Khadijah walaupun ketika sudah berkahwin dengan siti aisah.  Perkahwinan Nabi dengan Saidina aisah adalah atas permintaan Saidina Abu Bakar (sahabat nabi)  iaitu ayah kepada siti aisah.  Masa itu siti aishah berusia 9 tahun.  Semasa awal perkahwinan Nabi Muhammad tidak 'bersama' dengan siti aisah.  Mereka menjalini hidup bersuami isteri setelah usia Saidina Aisah 11 tahun.  Kita kena juga tengok fizikal orang arab. Usia 11 tahun ni sudah kira matang pada masa itu.  Saiz mereka juga besar.  Even di Malaysia sendiri dalam tahun2 50an anak-anak gadis kita kawin pada usia 12 iaitu selepas datang haid.  Jadi kiranya pada usia 11 tahun tu saidina aisah dah matang sebagai seorang gadis.

Ister-isteri yang lain semuanya janda dan ada pula yang sudah berusia.   Waima ada yang dah tak boleh memberi nafkah batin kepada Rasulullah pun ada sehingga mereka mewakilkan kepada siti aisah hak mereka sebagai isteri kepada Nabi.  Mereka redha menjadi isteri Rasulullah kerana Rasulullah boleh melindungi mereka.  Lagi pun siapakah lagi lelaki yang lebih baik selain dari Nabi Muhammad.  Di dunia dan apa lagi diakhirat kelak.

Mereka inginkan perlindungan.  Dan satu lagi harus kita sebagai orang islam ingat, apa yang dilakukan oleh Rasulullah merupakan contoh kepada umat terkemudian.

Pesan saya, janganlah biarkan orang agama lain mempersendakan agama kita apa lagi Rasulullah.  kalau saya kawan2 yang macam ni saya tinggalkan saja, dia agama dia dan kita agama kita.  Kalau nak tahu kerana benar interested dengan agama islam tak aper, tapi kalau sekadar untuk persenda tak payahlah layan.  Minta maaf kalau saya menyinggung saudara.

[ Last edited by  haniman at 14-11-2007 04:18 PM ]
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Post time 14-11-2007 04:25 PM | Show all posts
maybe kawan dier memang nak tahu kenapa dan tak salah kalau dier bertanya..mungkin suatu hari nanti, kawan dier akan terbuka hati nak peluk Islam sebab kagum dengan ajaran yang dibawa oleh Islam...siapa tahu...
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Post time 14-11-2007 04:32 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by dainese at 14-11-2007 04:25 PM
maybe kawan dier memang nak tahu kenapa dan tak salah kalau dier bertanya..mungkin suatu hari nanti, kawan dier akan terbuka hati nak peluk Islam sebab kagum dengan ajaran yang dibawa oleh Islam. ...


Mudah-mudahan, begitulah hendaknya.
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Post time 14-11-2007 04:35 PM | Show all posts

Reply #4 haniman's post

""slapshock, kenapa you peduli sangat tengtag your christian friend.  Kalau mereka tahu adakah boleh mengubah kepercayaan mereka.  Mereka hanya nak mempersendakan Rasul kita.""


Your reasoning was good - but need to tone down the above " ".
It's good to be open and receptive to each adn every query -
menjawab dengan berhemah tu pun permulaan berdakwah juga - tunjukkan kita
ni rasional dan tidak mudah melatah  & boleh berdialog dengan tenang.

Pesan suruh "tinggalkan saja" tu kurang wajar.  Biarlah yang sLapshock yang decide.  Cukuplah kita bagi pandangan ajer.  
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Post time 14-11-2007 04:56 PM | Show all posts

Reply #14 reatt's post

betul tu . .
setiap pertanyaan kena jawab dengan berhenah . .  mana la kita tau soalan tu ikhlas atau tidak . .  jadi kalau nak bagi pandangan bagi la yang logik supaya sesuai dengan soalan
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Post time 14-11-2007 05:36 PM | Show all posts
saya rasa jawapan tu okey jaa...

ayat tu boleh jugak diguna dlm tone rendah...dan tiada mencarut...

kalau korang pernah jumpa org yg tanya soalan demi permainkan Islam dan ulang2 walaupun dah dijawap...

memang sakit hati....

tp kalau dilihat ayat 2 tu okey ja...

bukan masalah besar...

pasal kahwin muda tu....zaman dulu2 tak pernah org pandang serong bila org kahwin awal atau muda...

zaman sekarang sebab pendidikan pun sampai 18 tahun menyebabkan orgrasa janggal...namun itu tak bermakna kahwin muda itu salah....

ini bukan sahaja berlaku di negara2 arab, atau pun tanah melayu...dulu2, memang biasalah...
lagipun jgn sampai pendidikan sekarang sampai masuk universiti menyebabkan kita kata kahwin muda tu salah...
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Post time 14-11-2007 06:06 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by haniman at 14-11-2007 04:12 PM

slapshock, kenapa you peduli sangat tengtag your christian friend.  Kalau mereka tahu adakah boleh mengubah kepercayaan mereka.  Mereka hanya nak mempersendakan Rasul kita.

Kalau di faham betul-betul semua isteri yang Nabi kita kahwin tu semuanya janda melainkan aisah.  Kalau Nabi kita kahwin kerana nafsu buat aper dia kahwin dengan Siti Khadijah yang berbezaan umur begitu jauh.  Nabi kita 25 tahun sedangkan Siti Khadijah sudah 40 tahun ketika mereka berkahwin.  Naib Muhammad seorang yang elok rupa parasnya.  Jadi tak ada masalah kalau baginda hendak berkahwin dengan anak dara.

Nabi Muhamad s.a.w. berkahwin dengan isteri-isteri yang lain pun selepas Siti Khadijah wafat.  Dia sangat sayang kepada Siti Khadijah sehingga Siti Aisah pun cemburu kerana dia selalu merindui Siti Khadijah walaupun ketika sudah berkahwin dengan siti aisah.  Perkahwinan Nabi dengan Saidina aisah adalah atas permintaan Saidina Abu Bakar (sahabat nabi)  iaitu ayah kepada siti aisah.  Masa itu siti aishah berusia 9 tahun.  Semasa awal perkahwinan Nabi Muhammad tidak 'bersama' dengan siti aisah.  Mereka menjalini hidup bersuami isteri setelah usia Saidina Aisah 11 tahun.  Kita kena juga tengok fizikal orang arab. Usia 11 tahun ni sudah kira matang pada masa itu.  Saiz mereka juga besar.  Even di Malaysia sendiri dalam tahun2 50an anak-anak gadis kita kawin pada usia 12 iaitu selepas datang haid.  Jadi kiranya pada usia 11 tahun tu saidina aisah dah matang sebagai seorang gadis.

Ister-isteri yang lain semuanya janda dan ada pula yang sudah berusia.   Waima ada yang dah tak boleh memberi nafkah batin kepada Rasulullah pun ada sehingga mereka mewakilkan kepada siti aisah hak mereka sebagai isteri kepada Nabi.  Mereka redha menjadi isteri Rasulullah kerana Rasulullah boleh melindungi mereka.  Lagi pun siapakah lagi lelaki yang lebih baik selain dari Nabi Muhammad.  Di dunia dan apa lagi diakhirat kelak.

Mereka inginkan perlindungan.  Dan satu lagi harus kita sebagai orang islam ingat, apa yang dilakukan oleh Rasulullah merupakan contoh kepada umat terkemudian.

Pesan saya, janganlah biarkan orang agama lain mempersendakan agama kita apa lagi Rasulullah.  kalau saya kawan2 yang macam ni saya tinggalkan saja, dia agama dia dan kita agama kita.  Kalau nak tahu kerana benar interested dengan agama islam tak aper, tapi kalau sekadar untuk persenda tak payahlah layan.  Minta maaf kalau saya menyinggung saudara.



aku quote semua penjelasan saudara/i kita ni.. bagi aku tiada yg janggal dlm penjelasan beliau.. inilah yg dinamakan mata pena lebih tajam dari mata pedang..

kenapa perlu terasa dgn penjelasan saudara/i kita ni.. walaupun penjelasannya tidak begitiu terperinci tetapi amat halus dan menusuk..

memang terdapat pelbagai uslub dakwah. dakwah dgn penulisan yg disulami dgn sindiran akan membuatkan org2 yg berfikiran rasional berhenti seketika utk berfikir.

org yg berfikiran rasional juga dpt membezakan antara pertanyaan utk tahu dgn pertanyaan utk mempersendakan..

apa yg anda fikirkan setelah membaca posting saudara/i haniman?
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Post time 14-11-2007 06:44 PM | Show all posts
pertanyaan sLapshock yang macam ni dah banyak kali diulang di RSF

memang kebanyakannya untuk mempersendakan....

masih boleh dijawab dengan baik, kemudian keluar soalan lain pula....

kalau nak tahu dia mempersendakan atau tidak, cuba beri detail girlfriend kamu tu kemudian kita boleh terangkan secara terperinci dengan baik. Suruh dia tanya sendiri kat sini.

tanya dia kenapa dia nak tahu sangat?

tanya dia kalau dapat dibuktikan kebenaran Islam dengan hujjah yang terang dan nyata, dia nak masuk Islam tak?

sLapshock, boleh terangkan sikit, kamu suka dia kenapa?
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Post time 14-11-2007 11:09 PM | Show all posts

Reply #1 sLapshock's post

Sshock,
seems like your girlfriend has so many questions about islam.  rather than have you go back and forth in this forum, why don't you have her list down all possible questions about islam that she might want answers to and take her and the questions to any of pejabat PERKIM or ABIM or ISLAH.  The people there might be a better source of info.
Anyway Sshock, I want to take this opportunity to reiterate what another forumner had advise before about not making fun of another faith's religious figure.  If your girlfriend have valid questions then by all means ask but please ask without malicious intentions and do be prepared to accept some answers with open mind.  If your girfriend is asking question when she already thinks she has the answers she is not a true seeker.  Don't waste your time trying to convince her.
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Post time 14-11-2007 11:39 PM | Show all posts

Reply #1 sLapshock's post

Logic answer...

Bcz Nabi Muhammad saw didnt do adultery

Moral value here.....

Sex out of wedlock is not Moslem way of life
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Post time 15-11-2007 01:51 PM | Show all posts
Assalamualaikum semuer,

Di antara Pertanyaan Oghang Kapiaq yg lumrah ialah:

1. Kenapa oghang Islam tonggang tonggek bila sembahyang??
2. Rasululah saw nie kuat sex
3. Kalau kentut semasa solat.....kenapa harus ambil wudhuk semula?? Kenapa tidak di basuh sahaja tempat yg kentut tersebu??
4. Nabi saw melarang umat Islam makan babi kerana di jaman dahulu......babi makan benda yg kotor.

5. Kenapa nak tutup ghambut anugerah Allah swt??

Wsalam
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Post time 15-11-2007 02:24 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by niceghost2005 at 15-11-2007 01:51 PM
Assalamualaikum semuer,

Di antara Pertanyaan Oghang Kapiaq yg lumrah ialah:

1. Kenapa oghang Islam tonggang tonggek bila sembahyang??
2. Rasululah saw nie kuat sex
3. Kalau kentut semasa ...


NG, to me soalan ni bukan kerana perasan ingin tahu tetapi lebih kepada nak mempersenda.  Wallahuwa'lam.
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Post time 15-11-2007 03:43 PM | Show all posts
Was Ayesha really 6 years old when she married Muhammad?

A few comments about Muhammad抯 marriages are in order. Muhammad married his first wife, Khadijah, several years before his announcement as a prophet of Islam.  Khadijah was a reasonably well-to-do woman of Makkah and was 15 years his senior.  Muhammad was 25 and Khadijah was 40 at the time of their marriage. This loving and caring monogamous relationship continued for 25 years until her death.  Muhammad, now over 50 years of age, married a relatively aged woman by the name of Saudah.  It is thus important to note here that Muhammad抯 twenty five prime youth years were spent in purely monogamous relationship with a lady 15 years his senior. This speaks volumes about this man抯 piety and loyalty in spousal matters as well as about the fact that his later marriages could not have been motivated by any human wild sexual desires. In 620-621 A.D, he and his devout companions migrated from Makkah to Medina. Then a couple of years later, he married Ayesha, a daughter of his closest companion, Abu Bakr, in the 3rd Hijrah (Islamic calendar--623-24 A.D).  This information coming from diverse historical and Hadith sources is widely agreed upon and therefore can be, a priori, considered authentic.  Based on this information, and a host of other related bits and pieces detailed below, it can be shown that Ayesha could have been at least 16-19 of age at the time of her marriage with Muhammad (pbuh).  The following is the detail of the analysis of these historical and Hadith accounts.


1. Several books of Hadith (Al-Bukhari and Al-Muslim, Abu Dawood, among others) and Islamic history (Tabari, among others) report that Ayesha was married to the Prophet at 6 but her marriage was not consummated until she was 9.  Although, this information is widely quoted and found in many Hadith and history books, it must be noted that most of this information has come from a single person, Hisham bin Urwah, who is the last narrator of this Hadith Isnaad (chain of narration) on the authority of his father.  Thus, this Hadith is primarily a single Hadith.  Some other narratives mention the same Hadith but their narration has been found weak and unacceptable. In general, a Hadith has more credibility if it is narrated by more people independently from diverse chains of narrators.  In this case, there is basically only one source.

2. Despite the abundance of information available during the 71 years that Hisham bin Urwah lived and taught in Medina, it is rather odd that that no one else梟ot even his famous pupil Malik ibn Anas---reported Ayesha抯 age from Hisham in Medina.  Furthermore, all the narrators of this Hadith were Iraqis.  Hisham is reported to have moved to Iraq in his later years. An extensive list of biographical sketches of all narrators including these Iraqis is available in some books.

3. Yaqub ibn Shaibah is reported to have said, 搉arratives reported by Hisham are reliable except those that are reported through the people of Iraq".  Malik ibn Anas (d. 795), a student of Hisham in fact discredited all narratives of Hisham that were reported through people of Iraq.
(Tehzibu'l-tehzib, by Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani, Arabic, Dar Ihya al-turath al-Islami, one of the most well known books on the life and reliability of the narrators of the traditions of the Prophet (pbuh), vol 11, pg 48 - 51).


4. It is reported that Hisham bin Urwah抯 memory suffered in his later years to the extent that some of the traditions reported from Hisham bin Urwah could not be trusted for authenticity.
(Mizanu'l-ai`tidal, by Al-Zahbi , Arabic, a book on the life sketches of the narrators of the Hadith, Al-Maktabatu'l-athriyyah, Sheikhupura, Pakistan, Vol 4, pg 301).

5. Even though Ayesha is reported to have been born about eight years before Hijrah (around 614 A.D.), one can find another narrative in Bukhari (kitabu'l-tafseer) whereby Ayesha is reported to have said that she was a 憏oung girl
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Post time 15-11-2007 03:43 PM | Show all posts
12. A famous Sunni imam, Ahmad ibn Hanbal, reports in His Musnad, that after the death of Khadijah, Khaulah came to the Prophet (pbuh) and advised him to marry again.  She had two propositions for the Prophet:  Either Muhammad could marry a virgin (bikr), or he could go for woman who had already been married (thayyib)". Khaulah named Ayesha for a virgin (bikr). It is common knowledge that the term bikr in the Arabic language refers to a well formed lady and not to a 9 year old, playful, immature lass.  If she were nine, the word used by Khaulah would have been jariyah and not bikr.
(Musnad, Ahmad ibn Hanbal, Vol 6, Pg 210, Arabic, Dar Ihya al-turath al-`arabi, Beirut).

13. Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani has reported that Fatimah, Muhammad抯 daughter, was five years older than Ayesha and that Fatimah  was born when the Prophet was 35 years old. Thus, Ayesha, according to Ibn Hajar, was born when Muhammad was 40 and consummated her marriage when he was 54 or 55.  That makes Aysha at least 15-16 years of age.

(Al-isabah fi tamyizi'l-sahabah, Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani, Vol 4, Pg 377, Arabic, Maktabatu'l-Riyadh al-haditha, al-Riyadh,1978)

Finally, it must be pointed out that Ayesha抯 age at the time of her marriage has never been an issue.  If it were, his enemies must have picked up on this issue as they did to him on some other issues. Also, the reader must note that none of these Hadith reports concerning Ayesha抯 controversial age of marriage with the Prophet goes back to the Prophet himself.  In other words, it is not the Prophet himself who said Ayesha was 6 or 9.  These reports came from a single individual and the Iraqis reported from him when he grew old and his memory started failing.
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Post time 15-11-2007 05:26 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by sLapshock at 14-11-2007 03:35 PM
I dont know how to answer, but i know Mohammad has a wife as young as 9 years old. Why? What sould i tell her?


May be you should ask your friend to explain this case.... :

In Exodus 21:10, a man can marry an infinite amount of women without any limits
to how many he can marry.

In 2 Samuel 5:13; 1 Chronicles 3:1-9, 14:3, King David had six wives and
numerous concubines.

In 1 Kings 11:3, King Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines.

In 2 Chronicles 11:21, King Solomon's son Rehoboam had 18 wives and 60
concubines.

In Deuteronomy 21:15 "If a man has two wives, and he loves one but not the
other, and both bear him sons...."
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Post time 16-11-2007 09:42 AM | Show all posts

Reply #24 Png_Prince's post

betul tu, umur a'ishah masa kahwin ngn nabi mmg controversial, x valid pun umur die 6 atau 9 tahun...so xperlula kite nk explain psl umur 9 tahun pun fizikal seseorg pompuan yg dh reach puberty tu dh sempurna mcm org dewasa...

reason-nyer ialah, mentaliti org barat dn kebanyakan/majoriti org pun, kalo dh bawah umur tu tetap bawah umur, dan melakukan hubungan seksual dgn budak bwh umur mmg dianggap suatu jenayah biarpun budak tu dah baligh...

ak langsung x percaya nabi kahwin ngn a'ishah masa umur a'ishah 9 tahun...sbab dlm culture arab n mana2 budaya semitic pun, memang xder yg kahwin dgn budak umur 9 tahun...

hujah yg ckp umur 9 tahun dlm kalangan perempuan arab tu dh kira mempunyai tubuh badan yg cukup matang utk dikahwini ni memang memalukan umat islam sendiri...ak igt lg ad sorg chinese member yg kutuk org islam sbg paedophiles sbab dgr argument mcm tu..
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Post time 16-11-2007 10:00 AM | Show all posts

Reply #1 sLapshock's post

u shud ask ur fren to read a lot.
org yg malas membaca mmg sentiasa blur.
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