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...infertile women gets more depressed than infertile men...setuju??

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Post time 11-1-2008 05:10 AM | Show all posts |Read mode
...susie dan salim sudah berumahtangga for 4 years...tapi...hingga sekarang...mereka masih blom dikurniakan cahaya mata...susie dah makin resah dan naik tension...bukan saja dia tidak sabar nak menimang cahaya mata...tapi...dia jugak sudah tidak sabar ngan sindiran2 dan pertanyaan2 daripada mak mertua...mak dia sendiri...sedara mara...jiran2 dan jugak rakan2nya...sehinggakan ada yang bertanya samada dia mandul......sungguh terkilan rasanya setiap kali dia mendengar yang ada orang mengandung...bila lah agaknya dia punya turn plak??...

...salim on the other hand...relak jer...bila diajak berbincang tentang hal ini dia buat derrrkkkk jer...katanya...kalau takde rezeki apa nak buat??...dalam hatinya berkata2..."ini ada peluang baik!!"

...but...akhirnya...rupa2nya salimlah yang bermasalah...sperm count dia not so fantastic...plak tu...sperm dia jenis lemah... ...tapi...salim tetap relak...susie...walaupon lega yang dia bukanlah punca masalah ini...tetap merasa tertekan ngan sindiran2 dan kata2 sinis daripada orang2 disekelilingnya yang tidak mengetahui perkara yang sebenarnya...sehinggakan ada yang suggest agar si salim nie kawin jer lagik satu...

...but...bila terbongkarnya rahsia yang salim nie mandul...semuanya hush2 jer...semuanya no comment...kisah salim dan susie hilang begitu saja...

...i tend to feel that society can be very cruel towards infertile women...while...for infertile men...they tend to be more forgiving...kenapa eh??....


[ Last edited by  blackmore at 11-1-2008 05:12 AM ]
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Post time 11-1-2008 07:59 AM | Show all posts
coa gua rasa the main bulk of the contribution is seen as to be coming from the woman....dari permulaan mengandung....all those symptoms....morning, afternoon and night sickness...carrying the load for at least 9 months...then delivering.....all as seen as woman's contribution....

further to that....infertile and fertile is not a common word in our normal society....cuba sebut benda benda tu kat orang2 tua....sure dapat balasan muka slenga...

and if they know pun...for them....infertile does not mean totally out...still ada sperm...need a bit of more work....and to them when it comes to the word usaha dalam rumahtangga...it's definitely the wife...usaha untuk merangsang suami di bilik tidur...usaha untuk menjaga makan suami...usaha untuk menggembirakan suami agar...all those kekurang suami boleh di pertingkatkan....

and we know woman ni cepat sangat get depressed and when they are depressed all their hormon goes hay wire...kelam kabut....dah lah sperm hubby weak...dapat lah a highly stressed woman...weak sperm with weak egg and unbalanced hormon and less effort....for sure the chances is zero.....what if the sperm is weak....strong egg with healthy hormon...the weaknesses in the man can still be help....

tu la diantaranya kot....
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Post time 11-1-2008 08:19 AM | Show all posts
thread nie macam ada kena mengena jer dengan hidup i...hehheheheh....

kebetulan lak.....tapi my husband count marvellous.....takde problem....cuma tak de rezeki jer sampai sekarang ....tahun nie dah genap 5 tahun kahwin....

lelaki nie sebenarnya dia takde rasa stress and depress if compared dengan women....dah memang naluri diaorg yang memang tak ambik pot dengan apa yang orang nak cakap ....on the other hand pompuan lak akan rasa sedih, stress and depress ...ini dah memang naluri pompuan....
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Post time 11-1-2008 08:20 AM | Show all posts
sebagai conclusion, i setuju ngan thread nie.....bahawa infertile women gets more depressed than infertile men.....:victory:
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Post time 11-1-2008 08:22 AM | Show all posts
....but then maybe org perempuan lebih emosional lagi lelaki, so tak hairanlah kalo pompuan tu cepat stress....
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Post time 11-1-2008 08:24 AM | Show all posts
memang la stress..kalau tak mandul tapi buat-buat mandul...
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Post time 11-1-2008 08:55 AM | Show all posts
yes i do agree, basically on the reproduction function of a lady makes her depressed more than the guy....
a guy, though depressed they know how to stay calm.....

or they merely doesn't care.....
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Post time 11-1-2008 09:15 AM | Show all posts
society memang cruel... just because pompuan yg kena mengandung so pompuan ajelah yg salah when it comes to this kind of matter...camnerlah kawan tu tak depress kalau seringkali dipersalahkan... dahtu bila terbukti pihak pompuan tak bersalah pandai lak tutup mulut tu...
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Post time 11-1-2008 09:16 AM | Show all posts
setting of cultural society yg dah beribu tahun ditekankan (yg berpihak pada lelaki)... men always highly regarded with having their virility intact... if no baby produced from a marriage, society will pinpoint at the lady first. and in a case of infertile men, they can cover it up with their ego.. women on the other hand, will be more emotional in this case of proving their 'worth'.

kalau dlm Islam macamana pulak? katakan dah tau lelaki tu mandul, and the wife is a ok... and if seh insisted to have a baby, boleh ke dia cerai n kaiwn lain?
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Post time 11-1-2008 09:22 AM | Show all posts

Reply #9 LostSoul's post

aii melenting pak pak aji kalaudengar suggestion cam ni....

tapi kalau pempuan yg infertile cepat no nak poli poli
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Post time 11-1-2008 10:57 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by LostSoul at 11-1-2008 09:16 AM
kalau dlm Islam macamana pulak? katakan dah tau lelaki tu mandul, andthe wife is a ok... and if seh insisted to have a baby, boleh ke diacerai n kaiwn lain?


Em yg nie... no clear evidence yg say kalau somi mandul isteri x leh minta cerai... but yg clear is kao somi x dpt memenuhi "kepuasan" then can... But still not many women akan minta cerai because of this... Usually isteri is loving........ sexcited is not their first priority in a marriage... Love is...

Kalu "mati pucuk" yes can definately ask for fasakh... but does infertile in men... directly means the husband "mati pucuk"

Technically I don't know... Does it blackmore?

[ Last edited by  mummyslove at 11-1-2008 10:58 AM ]
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Post time 11-1-2008 11:02 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by mummyslove at 11-1-2008 10:57 AM


Em yg nie... no clear evidence yg say kalau somi mandul isteri x leh minta cerai... but yg clear is kao somi x dpt memenuhi "kepuasan" then can... But still not many women akan minta cerai be ...


...mati pucuk?...pucuk muda atau pucuk tua?....

but scientifically mati pucuk does not mean infertile la....kan?....
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Post time 11-1-2008 11:03 AM | Show all posts
tp kalo laki nih confirm dia yg infertile...mmmmmmmm....mmg mandom teruk dr pompuan ler..ssbb musti rasa ego tercabar punyer...
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Post time 11-1-2008 11:28 AM | Show all posts

Reply #12 cantthinkofany's post

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Post time 11-1-2008 11:42 AM | Show all posts
Returning to the depressed emotion... I don't think men are not bothered by it... They do... But they are better at handling their emotion compared to ladies... Yealah perempuan nie bak kata abg aji are creature of love... sbb deme ada rahim... So we are more emotionally touched.. and easily touched by such remarks...

A forummer here had suffered the same thing... Maksudnya rezeki nak dpt anak tu lmbt... But he and his partner support each other on this...So they bear the burden together...
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Post time 11-1-2008 01:24 PM | Show all posts
aku rasa infetile tak semetisnye mati pucuk, and mati pucuk tak semestinye infertile.. which one is the worse? mmmm nak compare paling senang:

1. can shoot, but no bullet
2. have bullet but cannot shoot

mmmm

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Post time 11-1-2008 01:56 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by cantthinkofany at 11-1-2008 11:02 AM


...mati pucuk?...pucuk muda atau pucuk tua?....

but scientifically mati pucuk does not mean infertile la....kan?....



a'aa luv, infertile ni, dia mampu tapi tak subur..
lagi teruk mati pucuk dari infertile..
tapi so far kita dua tak ada masalah kan luv?
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Post time 11-1-2008 02:42 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by blackmore at 11-1-2008 05:10 AM
...susie dan salim sudah berumahtangga for 4 years...tapi...hingga sekarang...mereka masih blom dikurniakan cahaya mata...susie dah makin resah dan naik tension...bukan saja dia tidak sabar nak m ...


So far my good cholestrol level outweighs my bad cholestrol level........gud sign darleng????? .....hope it remains........INSYAALAH......
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Post time 11-1-2008 02:46 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by dianthe at 11-1-2008 01:56 PM



a'aa luv, infertile ni, dia mampu tapi tak subur..
lagi teruk mati pucuk dari infertile..
tapi so far kita dua tak ada masalah kan luv?


none what-so-ever babe.....
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Post time 11-1-2008 02:47 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by LostSoul at 11-1-2008 01:24 PM
aku rasa infetile tak semetisnye mati pucuk, and mati pucuk tak semestinye infertile.. which one is the worse? mmmm nak compare paling senang:

1. can shoot, but no bullet
2. have bullet but c ...



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