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Waffen-SS (majoring in foreign volunteers)

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Post time 22-5-2006 02:00 PM | Show all posts
semoga roh mereka ditempatkan bersama para shuhada... ameen..
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Post time 22-5-2006 03:28 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by mmc at 22-5-2006 11:26 AM
harap mods kasi tacang baik punya kat member kita ni...the best return aku pernah tengok untuk sasau si debs


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He he he he he................deme guna AGAMA utk menghalalkan tindakkan or mendapat sokongan agar deme STAY IN POWER!!!

Deme tubuhkan Division Islam tu....juga BUKAN untuk membantu Islam or pengiktirafan Agama Islam or pendirian deme yg global. :tq:
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Post time 22-5-2006 08:01 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by alphawolf at 22-5-2006 11:31 AM


sukarelawan Jepun aku tak pernah dengar, dari India ada tapi lebih kepada tujuan propaganda dan jumlahnya pun tak ramai - tawanan Afrika Korps. Perancis? Depa ada satu divisyen - 33 Waffen-Gren ...


ade nanti aku paste kan gambar
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Post time 22-5-2006 08:34 PM | Show all posts


Rare picture of an Indonesian volunteer in the Dutch SS

For more info..., visit here :

http://www.geocities.com/alvinlee_81/WarPics1.html

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Post time 22-5-2006 10:13 PM | Show all posts
Great job bro e/fx.......david slews  goliath with one stone!!!..

....but wait!!..dont hold your horses....goliath will come back for more .....to start the circus all over again!!
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Post time 22-5-2006 10:29 PM | Show all posts
Thanks for your support...

as a muslim its our duty to correct non-muslim perception towards us, since 9/11 & the collapse of communism Islam has become the enemy (bcoz they need something... to keep on going producing war machine)... I hope others will do the same to help protect the image of islam & give answers/corrections for bias/unjust view towards islam in the most educational way provided with fact/evidance

We all responsible for our posting.... if you claim/accuse something make sure you know what are you talking about & again with fact/evidence
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Post time 23-5-2006 12:30 AM | Show all posts
Misconception you said? No misconception.
The Muslim world at large did support the holocaust.

The Albanians and Bosnians did join in the holocaust in the name of Islam. TAR was a friend of Al Husseini remember?

And no Muslim see the need to apologise for that.

Even till today, Muslims still want Jews dead and Israel destroyed.
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Post time 23-5-2006 02:26 AM | Show all posts
Misconception you said? No misconception.
The Muslim world at large did support the holocaust.

The Albanians and Bosnians did join in the holocaust in the name of Islam. TAR was a friend of Al Husseini remember?

And no Muslim see the need to apologise for that.

Even till today, Muslims still want Jews dead and Israel destroyed.


R u kidding me ? No offence.... are u still in school ? U just keep repeating the same BS...without backing your statement with a single evidence !

A word of advice, if you want people like me to take you seriously don't make yourself look like a fool...

For those who want to explore more about this issues.....
  



Priests giving the Hitler salute

Priests giving the Hitler salute at a Catholic youth rally in the Berlin-Neukölln stadium in August 1933.

(Source: A Moral Reckoning: The Role of the Catholic Church in the Holocaust and Its Unfulfilled Duty of Repair by Daniel Jonah Goldhagen)



Reich Bishop Ludwig M黮ler, Berlin, 1934

(Photo source: Gedenkstätte Deutscher Widerstand)





Mass meeting of the German Christian Movement
13 Nov.1933

A radical wing of German Lutheranism and the main Protestant branch supporting Nazi ideology, the German Christian Movement reconciled Christian doctrine with German nationalism and antisemitism.

(Source: Museum of Tolerance)



Deutsche Christen (German Christians)

SA storm troopers with placards of the "German Christians," Berlin, July 1933.

On July 14, 1933, Hitler's government approves a new charter for the Protestant church. With massive intervention by the NSDAP, the church elections scheduled only a short time later result in a resounding victory for the "German Christians." Hitler himself appeals to all Protestant Christians in a radio speech on the eve of the election to vote for the "German Christians." With its slogan "church must remain church,"

(Source: Gedenkstätte Deutscher Widerstand)



National Bishop Friedrich Coch giving a Hitler greeting in Dresden, 10 December 1933

Dresden pastor Friedrich Coch is one of the leading men of the "German Christians" in Saxony. The NSDAP's Gau consultant for church matters since 1932, he is elected to the office of state bishop by the "Brown Synod" in August 1933.

(Source: Gedenkstätte Deutscher Widerstand)




Spanish Bishops giving the fascist salute


About Zionism & Nazi.....

Excerpt from;
Nazi Support of Zionism
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/antisemitism/nazisupport.cfm

Zionism was supported by the German SS and Gestapo.[3] [4] [5] [6] Hitler himself personally supported Zionism.[7] [8] During the 1930抯, in cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a network of some 40 camps throughout Germany where prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine. As late as 1942 Zionists operated at least one of these officially authorized 揔ibbutz

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Post time 23-5-2006 09:05 AM | Show all posts

Reply #64 ef/x's post

and why wouldn't this be a chinese indon...sini pun ramai chinese indon menyamar melayu fasal nak dapat status bumi ;)
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Post time 23-5-2006 11:00 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 23-5-2006 12:30 AM
Misconception you said? No misconception.
The Muslim world at large did support the holocaust.

The Albanians and Bosnians did join in the holocaust in the name of Islam. TAR was a friend of Al  ...



my oh my:pmuka:what is this i read from your bible the wikipedia....the reason why moslems join the SS is because...

The key to the success of recruiting Bosnian Muslims was the atrocities perpetrated on the Muslims by the Chetniks, Partisans, and even the catholic Ustashe. The SS Handschar was the first opportunity the Muslims had to fight back. Nevertheless, recruitment for the division fell as the war progressed and when rumors spread that the division was going to fight the Soviets the Muslims deserted in droves.


and even though they committed atrocities but look again what they did towards the end eh?

The Handschar division was mainly commanded by German officers. In late 1943, it was sent to train at Villefranche-de-Rouergue, in Aveyron, France. On September 17-18, 1943, a number of soldiers staged a mutiny, killed eight German officers, but were soon subdued by the Germans. The Germans blamed it on three suspected Communists who had infiltrated the division and downplayed the whole affair, stating that only some 14 soldiers participated in it. The captured mutineers were executed.

Nevertheless, the 13th was the only SS division that ever had a mutiny, and this was the first armed revolt against the Germans within the main Nazi system. A few of the mutineers escaped and helped form the French resistance in the area. The remainder of the division was soon relocated to Germany where they completed their training and in February 1944 shipped back to Bosnia.


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The Handschar was responsible for a number of atrocities against civilians, mostly committed during its anti-partisan operations. Handschar participated in the largest anti partisan sweep of World War 2, Unternehmen Maibaum.Cooperating with 7.SS Prinz Eugen which did little in this operation. The Division participated in Wegweiser, Save, Osterei, Maibaum, Maiglöckchen, Vollmond, Fliegenfänger, Heidrose and Hackfleisch operations from February to September of 1944. Toward the end of the war, many of its members deserted, sometimes with their weapons. Many of the Muslims returned to Bosnia to protect their homes and families, while others defected to Josip Broz Tito's partisans. The division was essentially disbanded by November 1944, although a small number continued to fight until surrendering to the British in Austria on 8 May 1945.


and lookee here...what the famous nazi hunter himself says about the division..

Nevertheless, despite all the hyperbole about the Handschar division there are a few documented atrocities by the division. Even the Jewish Nazi-hunter Simon Wiesenthal had to admit that in the Balkans the Handschar were clean compared to many of the other formations fighting in Bosnia including the Wehrmacht troops.

The SS Handschar division from the day it was formed untill the day it was wiped out in Hungary did not provide troops to guard any concentration camp.


now HE WOULD BE MORE OF AN EXPERT THAN YOU EH DEBS:nerd:
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Post time 23-5-2006 11:09 AM | Show all posts
"Christian dengan Christian yg gaduh..........oghang Islam yg di persalahkan!!"
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Post time 23-5-2006 11:13 AM | Show all posts
Yeah....the Handschar only operates against the Chetniks in anti-partisan ops....well whaddaya expect when both sides have been enemies for long?

Oh yeah, the Handschar were also abused by the German officers especially those of the 'original' SS.

[ Last edited by  alphawolf at 23-5-2006 11:15 AM ]
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Post time 23-5-2006 01:29 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by HangPC2 at 22-5-2006 08:01 PM


ade nanti aku paste kan gambar


Jepun/Korea



Captured possible Japanese Heer soldat ( Far Left )
being interrogated by the US troops
Updates! According to a Korean SBS documentary (Our website was featured in this doc!)  uncovering about Koreans in German service and from the US Archives there is an official caption for this photo:



http://www.geocities.com/alvinlee_81/WarPicsChinese.html



A Korean POW in Normandy, a hero in a new movie (coming soon.....)

The name of the soldier in this photo is Kyoungjong Yang who was born in Shin Euijoo, Northwestern Korea on March 3, 1920. He was conscripted to the Kwantung army in 1938 and captured by the Soviets in Nomonhan and captured again by Germans in Ukraine in the summer of 1943, maybe in the battle of Kharkov, and captured finally by Americans in Utah beach, Normandy on June 6, 1944.

He was freed from a POW camp in Britain on May, 1945 and moved and settled in America in 1947. He lived near the Northwestern Univ. in Illinois until he died on April 7, 1992. He lived as an ordinary US citizen without telling his unbelievable life story even to his two sons and one daughter.

[ Last edited by  HangPC2 at 23-5-2006 01:40 PM ]

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Post time 23-5-2006 01:45 PM | Show all posts
Banyak lagi sukarelawan Dari Asia China, Taiwan, Jepun, Korea, Turkmenistan, Mongolia, Indonesia
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Post time 23-5-2006 02:04 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 23-5-2006 12:30 AM
Misconception you said? No misconception.
The Muslim world at large did support the holocaust.

The Albanians and Bosnians did join in the holocaust in the name of Islam. TAR was a friend of Al  ...



deb, really, u should stop talking with ur arse.....
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Post time 23-5-2006 02:24 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by HangPC2 at 23-5-2006 13:29


Jepun/Korea



Captured possible Japanese Heer soldat ( Far Left )
being interrogated by the US troops
Updates! Acco ...


Huh..kesiannya mamat ni...dari satu negara negara ke satu negara dia kena berkhidmat (walaupun dipaksa)
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Post time 23-5-2006 02:44 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by speedy at 21-5-2006 01:44 AM


tentera german memang  bunuh jews masa ww2 dulu..kalau pernah tengok doku kat bbc tentang auschwitz then you know how brilliant the germans in planning all the killings.tapi kita jangan terpeda ...



Itu media pihak yang menang buat....
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Post time 23-5-2006 03:21 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by mmc at 23-5-2006 11:00 AM



my oh my:pmuka:what is this i read from your bible the wikipedia....the reason why moslems join the SS is because...



and even though they committed atrocities but look again what they  ...



Unfortunately, wikipedia isn't teh Bible and the writing above is nothing but  sanitised version of the story.

The truth is, the Ustashi were also German commanded and could not have attacked the Muslims.

The real success of recruitment of the hajar felkl on Al Husseini who initaited the whole thing.

Here's the true version of teh story.

http://www.fantompowa.net/Flame/yugoslavia_collaboration.htm



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Post time 23-5-2006 04:21 PM | Show all posts
Oh yes, it was posted on the internet, so it must be true then...
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Post time 23-5-2006 04:23 PM | Show all posts
@mmc

Good Handzar info... :solute:
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