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Malaysian obsession with EPL worries football legend and coach

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Post time 7-5-2008 08:42 AM | Show all posts

Reply #100 katana83's post

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 Author| Post time 7-5-2008 04:02 PM | Show all posts
ooo...bukan copa libertadores...nama die CONCACAF COPA DE CAMPEONES...ni champions league northern america. kire mls pon main kat cni la. tapi mls ni kire picisan kat copa ni.
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Post time 23-5-2008 07:30 PM | Show all posts
hehehehe...banyak jugak komplen psl epl ni.. biasa la benda tengah naik..mcm dulu gak, masa final champ league between madrid n valencia.. berduyun2 ngaku layan la liga... time tu memang power pun la liga.. tapi skang ni nak taknak kita sume kena ngaku yang epl adalah liga yang paling popular...and tak keterlaluan kalu aku ckp skang ni epl adalah liga paling hebat..

sebab aku ckp mcm tu? skang ni star2 kat dunia bola sepak ada kat epl.. kat la liga? yang betul2 star tinggal ronaldinho and raul.. messi still cannot be considered sebagai "star" sb dia baru menigkat naik(starting next season leh la).. kat serie A? kaka and totti je la.. del piero? inzaghi? tua dah.. memang, dari segi skill, mamat2 kat la liga and serie A jauh lebih tinggi dari mereka2 kat epl, tapi yang membuatkan epl jauh lebih famous adalah kerana sportmanship mereka.. kalu kalah 4,5 bijik gol pun, still main sungguh2 lagi and that is what the fan want to see.

skang ni money talks..big time!!!! that is why ramai pro footballer nak main kat epl.. dapat duit berkoyan2.. player mcm lucas neill(betul ke aku eja ni?!) pun dpt 70k paund per week..

jadi like it or not, epl is here to stay and mereka akan terus menghantui idup kita..
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 Author| Post time 24-5-2008 05:02 PM | Show all posts

Reply #103 luciuskorr's post

yep, money talks..thats 1 of d main reasons why stars want to come to epl. cam ballack, die leh je g tempat lain, tapi chelsea offer tinggi. yang contoh ko bagi tu, lucas neill tu memang mata duitan. daripada blackburn sanggup g kelab yang lebih picisan. bayangkan la, west ham pun leh beli player belas2 juta. arsenal nak beli pun pikir 2 kali. sebab tu aku suka arsenal nye management. walaupun orang kate xde duit sume, tapi aku rase arsenal leh je beli puluh2 juta, tapi wenger ni pandai. die tau yang player harga juta2 tu berapi je lebey...padahal xde la terer mane pun. contoh adalah darren bent n gareth bale. main pun xbyk season ni..
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Post time 24-5-2008 08:18 PM | Show all posts

Reply #104 moist's post

betul2.. dlm bab beli player ni aku memang tabik spring kt wenger. tkde saper leh lawan dia...fabregras, clichy, adebayor, sagna... saper penah nama depa ni sblm main ngn arsenal? takde rasanyer... scouting powe giler arsenal ni.. kalu arsenal leh maintain skuad ni utk musim depan, which is agak susah sket, sb byk kelab2 besar nak curik player arsenal ni. sebab utam ialah, well... DUIT..

adebayor to gaji dia pound stearling 35k je seminggu.. tapi main jauh lagi bagus dari sheva yg gaji 120k seminggu..tu yang adebayor mintak naik gaji tu..  tapi aku harap2 bebudak arsenal ni tak blah la.. sb potential tinggi depa ni...
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Post time 24-5-2008 08:43 PM | Show all posts
aku Tengok Liga Super China laju..... jer... pergerakan diorang........  memang super lah...
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Reply #106 HangPC2's post

dah kata liga ke 3 paling power kat asia selepas jepun n korea..
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Post time 27-5-2008 03:33 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by luciuskorr at 23-5-2008 07:30 PM
hehehehe...banyak jugak komplen psl epl ni.. biasa la benda tengah naik..mcm dulu gak, masa final champ league between madrid n valencia.. berduyun2 ngaku layan la liga... time tu memang power pu ...




veri tipikal... tapi aku tak salah kan ko.. 99% org Msia tergolong dlm mindset ni..

nama2 yg ko sebut.. Gigi, Messi, Totti, DP,.. semua offensive players

bila menyebut STAR player, semua akan lupa enjin room yg terdiri dpd defender n GK...
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 Author| Post time 28-5-2008 03:28 PM | Show all posts

Reply #108 Nesta13's post

hey, dats quite an offensive statement..no way 99% orang mindset die cam2..

luciuskorr ni cuma meletakkan nama star2 yg general public akan quickly recognize.but for real football fans, of course diorg akan tau yg defend is just as important.

if u ask a REAL man utd fan on why they won d league dis season, they will say its not bcoz of ronaldo, but bcoz of vidic n ferdinand..

n sejak beberapa tahun, d best defense has shifted from serie A to the EPL. aku ade gak baca kat satu artikel tapi x igt kt ne ckp psl bende ni. tapi kalo tengok pun, its true. English defenders are starting to show their prowess. kalo dulu, leh kata alessandro nesta adalah epitome seorang defender. tapi selepas zaman kegemilangan nesta, cannavaro n maldini, macam dah xde pelapis. meanwhile, epl has started to produce class defenders such as john terry, rio ferdinand, carragher, ashley cole, micah richards etc..
n top defenders n prospects dah mula masuk epl such as toure, carvalho, agger, skrtel, corluka etc.

n meanwhile, defenders yang xleh tahan or xleh cope ngan epl terpaksa pindah g liga lain utk main.. contohnya seperti jean alain-boumsong. newcastle beli ngan harapan die akan menguatkan defense. tapi flop gile babs. macam xreti defend langsung. tapi tup2, tengok juventus nak die? n he's a starter at juve now? clearly dis must means sumthing..
n goalkeepers? boleh antara yg terhebat skrg ni adalah petr cech, iker casillas n buffon. tp cech skrg ni cam dodgy sket (probably sebab kapla die). tapi between buffon n casillas, i'll take casillas straight.

n sekarang ni kalo tanye public, orang akan ckp liga paling power skrg ni antara la liga n epl. n kalo next season kelab epl dominate europe gak, probably they'll overtake la liga.


p/s: tapi aku rase, main reason nape epl ni org msia layan adalah sebab bahasa die sume org paham..senang.haha.

[ Last edited by  moist at 28-5-2008 03:34 PM ]
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Post time 28-5-2008 06:51 PM | Show all posts
heehehehehe... thanks for the comment, nesta and moist..

ye, betul gak apa yang nesta  ckp tu..bila org ckp "star palyer", secara automatik org akan ingat player2 yang flair nye tinggi2, spt ronaldo, messi, totti, lampard dan sebagainya..

tapi, mereka2 inilah yang menarik perhatian penonton,yang membawa duit masuk kepada kelab dan mereka2 ni lah yang berjaya melariskan lagi jualan jersi kelab masing2.. so unless sumer orang yang mcm aku(die hard fan of italian defensive syle of play), memang sume akan tgk kat player2 ni.. tgk mereka dribble, tgk mereka kena tackle,tengok mereka score, tengok mereka dive , and get away with it.. hehe jadi nak taknak, kita kena akui mereka2 inilah yang merancakkan and mewarnai dunia bola sepak yang kita dok mengadap tiap2 tahun..

ckp psl engine sesebuah pasukan,  ramai gak orang perasan, tapi tak mendapat perhatian sepenuhnye.. time depa ada kat first eleven, memang orang tak akan perasan, tapi bila player2 ni tak main, baru le org perasan team tersebut pincang..hehe tak lancar jadinyer..

moist, betul ckp ko.. Man Utd won double sb vidic and ferdinand.. setuju sgt2..  having said that, ronaldo tu byk gak jasa dia...takde 42 gol dia tu tak kemana wooo United..   .... senang citer, the team won the match, not an individuals..

betul gak, pasal bahasa la org dok layan epl je..nak tambah satu lagi, time match diaorang tu tak kena... lewat sgt beb..


p/s -  nesta ni fav player aku... ingat dulu masa kat kolej, siap berebut nak pakai jersey no 13...hehehehe
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 Author| Post time 15-6-2008 06:32 PM | Show all posts

Reply #110 luciuskorr's post

nesta masa kat lazio memang syiokkk....tapi bile die g milan die injured...pas2 dah cam menurun...
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Post time 15-6-2008 08:12 PM | Show all posts

Reply #1 moist's post

good point, harap FAM buka mata lps ni.. jgn syok sgt dgn tim overrated tu.. lambakkan import players dlm epl, last2 national team hancuss sbb pelapis x dak

lagi bagus tgk how the germans manage their league.. x kira la klu org kata bundesliga tu bosan, tp ramai local players dlm tu.. pelaburan utk jangkamasa panjang supaya ada pelapis utk setiap generasi
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Post time 16-6-2008 10:07 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by moist at 28-5-2008 03:28 PM
hey, dats quite an offensive statement..no way 99% orang mindset die cam2..

luciuskorr ni cuma meletakkan nama star2 yg general public akan quickly recognize.but for real football fans, of cou ...



okay2.. 99% might be excessive.. perhaps 98% kot

dont get me wrong.. aku ada jugak tgok EPL.. walaupun tak banyak... tapi like other matches aku akan konsentrate pada defense line-up diorg... off course ada few names worth mentioning tapi in my book dlm epl ni ada la 2-3 org je.. ok.. vidic is good.. tapi aku paling berkenan kat garagher.. (epitome mesti bangkang aku nih ).. tapi tu je la.. nak jejak tahap Cannavaro dgn Nesta jauh sekali laa.. tapi tu opinion aku yg sedari dulu very particular pada defense.. malas aku nak pikir pasal offensive player nih... kalo dia skor gol dialah hero.. tapi kalo dia tak skor due to good defender, org akan kata offensive player to off form..

JTerry..? Moronho je kata dia best kot...

and to me... next best defense still kat Jerman followed by Spain, certainly not EPL... yet..
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 Author| Post time 16-6-2008 10:52 AM | Show all posts

Reply #113 Nesta13's post

im talkin bout local lads, bro...but of course, germany do have some exceptional defenders..lahm,mertesacker..
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Post time 19-6-2008 01:17 PM | Show all posts
orang malaysia la yg paling byk pembohong besar!!!! bila time world cup memasing dok cakap sokong brazil!!!! kate john terry bagus giggs micah richards la tapi bila tanye favourite NT lain plak jawapannya.. mula story mory kehebatan kaka'la pato ronaldinho jarang bebeno dgr kehebatan gilberto or anderson..time euro plak dok ramai citer psl group c and most ly player tu dari non epl or ex epl on the 1st team. patutnya kite kena ade siaran langusng liga dari south america once a while especially between rive and boca.. sure meletops kalah any rivalries between man utd vs liv or ars or chelsea...
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 Author| Post time 20-6-2008 04:44 PM | Show all posts

Reply #115 fizamn's post

err.....huh??
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Post time 20-6-2008 09:39 PM | Show all posts

Reply #115 fizamn's post

europe ye footballl lg bes dr south america la....psl tu kaka,ronaldinho,romario,maradonna,messi,ronaldo,robinho sume men kt europe.........eropah lg bes psl bukan setakat epl tp diorang ade la liga,bundesliga,serie a, ligue 1,champs league and uefa cup....south america ade dua liga je org tgk liga brazil n liga argentina n lg satu piala libertadores....rivalry ye bkn setakat man u vs liv atau arsenal...tp man u vs barca,arsenal,real madrid,ac milan,chelsea,inter,bayern munich,ajax,juventus,roma,liverpool,psv,lyon dan lain2 sume ye demi kejuaraan liga juara-juara eropah kelab mane yg plg berjaya dlm eropah....kalo south america tu lbh kpd hanye kelab dr brazil dan argentina..river plate,boca,sao paolo,santos,internacional.............tevez pn mari eropah padahal 2 kali player terbaik south america dlu sblm mari west ham.......
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Post time 22-6-2008 08:11 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Legolas7 at 20-6-2008 21:39
europe ye footballl lg bes dr south america la....psl tu kaka,ronaldinho,romario,maradonna,messi,ronaldo,robinho sume men kt europe.........eropah lg bes psl bukan setakat epl tp diorang ade la l ...


diorang men kat europe sebab utama adalh kelab yurop bagi gaji berkali-kali ganda dari kelab asal mereka kat soth amerika kan jgn lupa, barca kena blasah ngan internacionale dua tahun kepas kan walaupun milan menang ngan boca jr tahun lepas kat wcc
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 Author| Post time 22-6-2008 10:50 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by mesinbasuh at 22-6-2008 08:11


diorang men kat europe sebab utama adalh kelab yurop bagi gaji berkali-kali ganda dari kelab asal mereka kat soth amerika kan jgn lupa, barca kena blasah ngan internacionale dua tahun  ...


btul tu...leh kata taraf liga south america n europe lebeh kurang...tapi duit yang menggamit hati player2 dari sane dtg europe..tapi ckp pasal barca kalah ngan internacional tu kn, kelab2 europe ni sbnrnye xpandang sgt competition tu...coz dat is considered as a minor cup dlm fifa. uefa pun cam xpandang sgt je..tapi kelab2 brazil n argentina ni, diorg nak menang cup tu sebab diorang nk naikkn reputasi.

orang kata real madrid adalah team yg paling byk menang trophy. salah...kelab dari south america yg paling banyak. ade masuk The Star dulu. aku x ingat Independiente ke Internacional.rasenye Independiente...
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Post time 24-6-2008 08:14 AM | Show all posts

Reply #119 moist's post

kaka penah ckp yg walaupun kelab europe tak pandang tropi wcc tu tapi kat brazil diorang pandang tinggi tropi tu

mungkin sebab kat situ saja diorang leh ukur prestasi diorang berbanding kelab eropah kot

tapi kita kurang terdedah dgn liga arg & braz sebab takde coverage kan, kalu ada best tgk, diorang punya skil tinggi kat sana walaupun memuda lagi main (yg tua sket semua gi eropah dah)

crowd kat sana lagi alive dari kat europe, gado-gado pun lagi major kat sana
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