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6/6/1976 to be revisited by the Police

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Post time 21-7-2008 07:44 PM | Show all posts |Read mode
double 6: kemalangan atau konspirasi?

http://www.sabahforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=5817&st=0&sk=t&sd=a





JK's Digest No. 9 of July 2008 (387 of 2008) Tan Sri R A Lind and Malaysia Agreement
This is the man with an identity card of code 71 who had held senior key public offices despite Borneonisation of local people only in dreams. (Police Report)
This is the man who should know the Constitution of Sabah and yet the Chief Ministers of Sabah could be not born in Sabah.
So it is the illegal people of Sabah since 1963 that have destroyed Sabah in the infant years leaving a legacy of doom till today but so easy to point their fingers on the locals.
I believe he was also aware of the Petroleum Development Act 1974 when Sabah did not sign the contract or agreement for 5% and I would like to hear more of this from him.
I also believe he was at the airport's control tower -normally out of bound for other people - on 6th June 1976 when the incoming plane was about to land and then the tragic crash without an official report. I believe the public want to learn from him of that event and his role as it was the threshold of the signing of the 5% oil royalty soon after the demise of Tun Fuad Stephens.
This piece of my writing is inspired by his writing of recycled materials in Daily Express column of Sunday 13th July 2008 over the cash rebate and fuel prices. What everyone knows for months, he so recycled it 'professionally' with an official version not the truth of today's suffering in the failed nation over the food and fuel prices upheaval (FFPU).
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Post time 22-7-2008 10:50 AM | Show all posts
*Yawn* Next conspiracy please....
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Post time 22-7-2008 11:08 AM | Show all posts
*Yawn* Next conspiracy please....
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 Author| Post time 25-7-2008 10:39 PM | Show all posts

not conspiracy

murder was the motive and accomplished for the destruction of Sabah and Sabahans with the petroleum gone forever... with 5% peanut left.
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Post time 17-9-2013 01:12 AM | Show all posts
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=549718605093886&set=np.115027591.100001024656793&type=1&ref=notif¬if_t=notify_me&theater



The book was written by the late Bernard Sta Maria. The book is a short biography of the late Peter J. Mojuntin who died with Tun Fuad Stephens, Datuk Salleh Sulong, Chong Thian Voon, Darius Binion and 6 others including Tun Fuad Stephens eldest son and Tengku Razaleigh Hamzah Private secreatary in the infamous Double Six Tragedy (Plane crash) in Sembulan, Kota Kinabalu on 6.6.1976

The cause of the crash remains uncertain but it is generally agreed that it changed the course of Sabah's history and many conspiracy theory arose

Most Sabahans believe the plane crash was actually related to the then Sabah CM, Tun Fuad Stephens unwillingness to sign the Oil Agreement on behalf of the government / peoples of Sabah with Petronas and the dispute was said in regards to that 5% Oil Royalty.

I've been to the exact place where the plane crash (Sembulan) which now being turned into a Double Six Monument and next to it is a Cafetaria and an apartment

I've paid a visit to Peter J. Mojuntin statue in Donggongon, 15 - 20 minutes drive from KK, in the middle of Donggonggon township, Penampang. Its about 15 feet tall

~Anak Sarawak~

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Post time 17-9-2013 08:53 AM | Show all posts
13Friday posted on 25-7-2008 10:39 PM
murder was the motive and accomplished for the destruction of Sabah and Sabahans with the petroleum  ...

aku rasa kemalangan ini berpunca drpd design kapal terbang yg teruk laa......

maka boleh tutup teori konspirasi dah....
The Nomad design was considered problematic and early Royal Australian Air Force evaluations were critical of the design. An early, stretched-fuselage variant crashed, killing GAF's chief test pilot Stuart Pearce (father of actor Guy Pearce), and the assistant head designer. The Nomad has been involved in a total of 32 total hull-loss accidents, which have resulted in 76 fatalities.

As far as its safety records indicate, conspiracy theory aside, it has been not a good aeroplane. Currently, there is a new model being worked out, but as late as 2009, only one was flying in its home country Australia, which tells you something about the Nomad.

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What about the pilot? Obviously his skills, experience and knowledge can minimise or even counter the threat of a stall or even an aeroplane suffering from an imbalance state. But as we have read, even the original test pilot for the Nomad aeroplane was killed, what more with a Sabah Flying Club pilot, Captain Gandhi Nathan.



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Post time 17-9-2013 08:54 AM | Show all posts
Wednesday, June 12, 2013
Conspiracy theory on Tun Fuad Stephens' fatal flight

Today let's revisit the conspiracy theory surrounding the disastrous aeroplane crash in Sabah that is said to have changed the course of political history in Sabah.



I refer to Malaysia-Today's article (picked up from Star Online) Conspiracy still in the air. The journalist for the article is Philip Golingai.

Golingai quoted from a P.J. Granville-Edge's book, The Sabahan: The Life and Death of Tun Fuad Stephens, about what happened as the aircraft was crashing.

According to Golingai, P.J. Granville-Edge, Tun Fuad's niece, wrote:

Fuad probably only suspected something was wrong when his plane began to vibrate. Perhaps, he suddenly felt a sharp jolt of fear.

The Nomads nose dropped. The plane began a one-and-a-half turn spiral plummet. It did not pull out of that twisting nose-dive and crashed into shallow water.

Please note that P.J. Granville-Edge employed the qualifier 'probably' in her projection of Fuad's last minute feelings, but it's noteworthy that she mentioned these following words:

"... something was wrong when his plane began to vibrate" and The Nomads nose dropped. The plane began a one-and-a-half turn spiral plummet. It did not pull out of that twisting nose-dive and crashed into shallow water.



I am not sure where or who she had gleaned those words from, but I bet it would be someone who knew/knows something technical about the accident, because those were descriptions of an aerodynamic feature known as the 'stall'.

An aeroplane or a helicopter or a kite flies by virtue of the aerodynamic feature known as 'Lift', which itself is a product of the Reaction of the aeroplane or helicopter or kite ensuing from the Action against the air (or wind) - in other words, a manifestation of Newton's 3rd Law of Motion where Action (aeroplane moving through air by its engine or boy running through air pulling his kite) is equal to and opposed by Reaction. The useful Lift is the vertical component of Reaction whilst nasty Drag is its horizontal component.



Next time when you drive around or to be more safe for you, when you're a passenger, open your car window and put your open palm out in the airflow, and then tilt your open palm at various angles to the airflow, and assess which angle gives you the maximum and minimum reactions of lift (upwards) and drag (backwards). Of course both will happen at the same as that would be the Reaction to the Action of your palm bring pushed forward by the car.

Safe flight is possible only when Lift is managed effectively by the pilot to the required amount, and likewise with Drag. That's as far as I dare proceed with the fangle technical stuff (of aerodynamics), which would be best left to pilots or aerodynamists.

But suffice to say, the control and management of both Lift and Drag becomes crucial during the take-off and the landing phase of a flight. If a pilot mismanages them, say during take-off or/and landing, a Stall may occur, with the symptoms and consequences occurring as per P.J. Granville-Edge's description of "... something was wrong when his plane began to vibrate" and The Nomads nose dropped. The plane began a one-and-a-half turn spiral plummet. It did not pull out of that twisting nose-dive and crashed into shallow water.



A more crude but impactful, though technically incorrect, description of a plane suffering an unrecoverable stall would be 'dropping from the air like a stone (or a ton of bricks)'.

What is meant by 'unrecoverable stall'?

A stall by itself is generally recoverable even if the pilot takes no action provided there is enough height (or altitude); left to itself the aeroplane will eventually recover into what it has been trimmed (or set up) for.

When there isn't enough safe altitude, say when the aeroplane is near the ground like around 500 feet or less, the pilot must take swift and correct actions to recover from the stall. It's doable and practised regularly at lengths by every working pilot.

Thus an 'unrecoverable stall' is one where the pilot doesn't have enough altitude to take his recovering actions or has taken incorrect actions (unlikely for a skilled pilot), or there is aggravating circumstances like an imbalanced loading which hinders the pilot from executing the required recovery actions.



The conspiracy theory achieved some traction from a Ku Li (Tengku Razaleigh) story, in which he recalled that Harris Salleh, then the Sabah deputy chief minister, persuaded him not to take that fatal flight but instead go to Pulau Banggi to see a cattle ranch. Thus Ku LI left the ill-fated plane together with Rahman Yakub (then CM of Sarawak) and Tengku Bendahara of Pahang.

The conspiracy insinuation has been that Harris Salleh knew the plane would crash and save Ku Li from doom by persuading him to disembark.



But we need to ask those conspiracy theorists how Harris Sallah had somehow managed to arrange for the crash to occur during the landing phase and in what was likely from a stall.

A far more drastic and deadlier sabotage (since this is a discussion on a conspiracy theory) would have been for the plane to crash during take-off (perhaps by fixing one engine to fail, though a qualified pilot can easily handle an asymmetric engine situation - okay then, both engines to fail) or during a later stage of flight by an explosive device, say, set to trigger by a barometric capsule when it passed a certain altitude. The latter scenario would have been more desirable so that most evidence would be lost in the sea.

Quite frankly, I wonder which pilot believes that one could or would fix an aeroplane to crash at its landing stage without an explosive device, bearing in mind this was in the mid-70's? Generally, a crash after take-off is far more deadly for the occupants than during a landing phase.

Thus I'm not predisposed towards any suggestion of planned assassination of Fuad through sabotage of the aeroplane, unless Harris Salleh or one of his bomohs has fantastic mind control where he could cause the pilot to mishandle the aeroplane and also black out during the landing.

I'm more inclined to believe it was an unfortunate accident.

But let's examine the Nomad aeroplane or its notorious history. Wikipedia informs us:

The Nomad design was considered problematic and early Royal Australian Air Force evaluations were critical of the design. An early, stretched-fuselage variant crashed, killing GAF's chief test pilot Stuart Pearce (father of actor Guy Pearce), and the assistant head designer. The Nomad has been involved in a total of 32 total hull-loss accidents, which have resulted in 76 fatalities.



As far as its safety records indicate, conspiracy theory aside, it has been not a good aeroplane. Currently, there is a new model being worked out, but as late as 2009, only one was flying in its home country Australia, which tells you something about the Nomad.

My uncle, when in the military, knew some air force people who informed him of the loading problems of the Nomad. Aeroplane loading problems can be divided into two areas, weight itself and balance.

The latter is the far more dangerous issue because an unbalanced loading and thus an imbalanced aircraft can present control problems for the pilot. The control problems become more acute during landing especially if the fuel which had earlier offset (minimised) the imbalance has been burnt off.

What about the pilot? Obviously his skills, experience and knowledge can minimise or even counter the threat of a stall or even an aeroplane suffering from an imbalance state. But as we have read, even the original test pilot for the Nomad aeroplane was killed, what more with a Sabah Flying Club pilot, Captain Gandhi Nathan.



Though my uncle didn't personally know Captain Gandhi, he knew of him from his (my uncle's) several visits at the invitation of his air force friends to the Royal Selangor Flying Club within the old KL airport grounds, which was subsequently turned into a TUDM (RMAF) station when the KL airport was shifted to Subang. Unc even had a few drinks together with Captain Gandhi though as part (guest) of a group consisting of those air force friends and some Royal Selangor Flying Club members.

As my uncle recalls, Captain Gandhi was not an air force trained pilot nor was he trained in Perth, Scotland (not the Perth in Australia), where I was informed the very early Malayan Airways (daddy of SIA and MAS) sent most of its pilot cadets to be trained.

Captain Gandhi was trained at the Royal Selangor Flying Club. After obtaining his Commercial Pilot Licence, he joined Sabah Flying Club which under Tun Mustapha Harun had all sorts of aircraft (aeroplanes and helicopters) and provided a career opportunity for low-hour pilots like Captain Gandhi who wasn't trained by the air force or an overseas commercial flying training school. Pilots from the latter two groups monopolized the airline recruitment.


Sabah Flying Club pilots
4th from left is Harris Salleh, then as Hon President of Club

That's my take on that unfortunate accident. I believe it's best to evaluate whatever information we have before we allow our political allegiance persuade us into imagining there was a sinister conspiracy.

Posted by KTemoc at 12:49 pm

http://ktemoc.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/conspiracy-theory-on-tun-fuad-stephens.html
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Post time 17-9-2013 08:55 AM | Show all posts
senarai kemalangan melibatkan kapalterbang jenis NOMAD:

http://aviation-safety.net/database/dblist.php?field=typecode&var=250%&cat=%1&sorteer=datekey&page=1

32 occurrences in the ASN safety database, showing occurrence 1 - 32


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datetyperegistrationoperatorfat.location piccat
26-OCT-1975GAF Nomad N.22VH-AUIGAF
Mazatlan Air... O1
06-JUN-1976GAF Nomad N.22B9M-ATZSabah Air
11
near Kota Kinabal... A1
06-AUG-1976GAF Nomad N.24VH-DHFGAF
2
Avalon Airpo... A1
21-MAY-1977GAF Nomad N.22BP2-DNJDouglas Airways
Wewak-Boram ... A1
23-JUL-1979GAF Nomad N.22BPK-MAJMAF
near West Irian A1
23-DEC-1979GAF Nomad N.22BP2-DNLDouglas Airways
16
Manari Airpo... A1
04-MAY-1981GAF Nomad N.22BP2-011PNG Defence Force
near West Sepik p...A1
18-JAN-1985GAF Nomad N.22BVH-BFHBarrier Reef Airways
0
Brisbane Int... O1
20-JUL-1987GAF Nomad N.24AZK-NMDAir Safaris & Services
0
Tekapo Aerod... A1
12-MAR-1990GAF Nomad N.24AA18-401RAAF
1
near Mallala, SA A1
05-APR-1990GAF Nomad N.22BVH-DNMSydney Skydivers
0
near Leongatha, VICA1
04-MAY-1990GAF Nomad N.24AN418NETar Heel Aviation
2
Wilmington-N... A1
04-MAY-1991GAF Nomad N.22BFPN5590MJohnson Wax Company
0
near Bowling Gree... A1
01-JUN-1991GAF Nomad N.24AN8071LAgape Flights
2
near MatthewtownA1
09-SEP-1991GAF Nomad N.22A18-303Australian Army
4
near Tenterfield,... A1
06-JUL-1992GAF Nomad N.22BI-JALAAlimediterranea
Reggio Calab... O1
25-OCT-1993GAF Nomad N.22ZK-NOMHibiscus Air
9
Franz Josef ...A1
28-DEC-1993GAF Nomad N.22B11Philippine AF
0
near Margosatubig... A1
??-???-1994GAF Nomad N.24A121212Thai Navy
U-Tapao Airp... A1
20-AUG-1995GAF Nomad N.22BN4826MHaiti Express Airways
0
Jeremie Airp... A1
12-FEB-1996GAF Nomad N.24AN224EHaiti Express Airways
10
Port-au-Prin... A1
19-NOV-1997GAF Nomad N.24AN244ERollins Air
0
La Ceiba-Gol... A1
24-NOV-1997GAF Nomad N.24AHR-AQYRollins Air
0
La CeibaA1
18-SEP-1998GAF Nomad N.22SLN6305UUS Customs Service
1
near Mona Island,... A1
02-JUL-2000GAF Nomad N.22CN286Philippine AF
11
near Cagayancillo A1
10-FEB-2001GAF Nomad N.24APZ-TBPGum Air
10
near JacobcondreA1
13-APR-2002GAF Nomad N.24AOY-JRWNomad Fleet
0
Weston-on-th...A1
17-DEC-2002GAF Nomad N.22BN22B-53Philippine AF
0
near ZamboangaA1
30-DEC-2007GAF Nomad N.22BP-833Indonesian Navy
5
near Sabang A1
06-MAR-2009GAF Nomad N.22B46137Thai AF
1
Lop Buri Air... A1
07-SEP-2009GAF Nomad N.24AP-837Indonesian Navy
5
Long Apung, ... A1
28-JAN-2010GAF Nomad N.22B18Philippine AF
8+ 1
near Cotabato-Awa... A1


kesimpulan: design nomad mmg fail................

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