Akhirnya skandal Scorpene?

cmf_tin

Reply  tempur

Orang camni gamaknya berkenan dengan U-Boat Jerman...bukan Type 212 tapi Type VII  ...
alphawolf Post at 14-10-2010 13:43

wa rasa depa nih nak negara kita lemah supaya mudahlah anasir2 luar menakluk...

hyazinth79

tahap blue navy , masih jauh utk dicapai .

cascutes

biasa la.... bli kpl selam ni kan pelaburan tuk pertahanan negara...
pelaburan tentu ada untung rugi... ada org2 yg untung... ada org2 yg rugi....:@
kalu xsokong krajaan xpayah pangkah krajaan... atleast, akhir nya m'sia ada gak kapal selam.... tp pastikan kapal selam ni menyelam jgn sampai minum air... kene bukak tender jual besi buruk.... apapun harap sistem pertahanan negara semakin ampuh!! dapat gak 'askar popeye' ni tgok apa rupa kapal selam....

hyazinth79

dorang pun dah gerun dah tgk tembakan misil dr kapal selam aritu ,

hyazinth79

tudm answer the question with misil , cayalah

kancilkalerbiru

Reply  tempur

Orang camni gamaknya berkenan dengan U-Boat Jerman...bukan Type 212 tapi Type VII  ...
alphawolf Post at 14-10-2010 13:43

suruh orang tu menyelam kat perairan penang angkat balik underseeboot yg kena torpedo dgn sub british masa ww2 dulu..

pastu gam satu2 serpihan2 tu.. mesti buleh pakai balik.. free lak tu.. takyah bayar..

Acong

The episode of a Sensational Killing of a Mongolian Translator Appears to be About Finished
Written by Administrator   
Tuesday, November 09, 2010.

The closing of a case earlier this week by Malaysia’s attorney general over allegedly false statements by a private investigator that tied Prime Minister Najib Tun Razak to the 2006 murder of Mongolian translator Altantuya Shaariibuu literally lets unknown persons close to the prime minister get away with murder.

The closure of the case appears to write the final chapter in one of Malaysia’s most sensational murder cases, one involving a gruesome death, intrigue in high places, more than 100 million euros in alleged bribes and a trial that appeared to be rigged to keep prosecutors as far as possible away from Najib, then the deputy prime minister, and his wife, Rosmah Mansor.

The private investigator, P Balasubramaniam, was hired in 2006 by Abdul Razak Baginda, one of Najib’s best friends and a defense analyst from the Malaysian Strategic Research Centre think-tank, to attempt to keep Altantuya away from Baginda because he had jilted her. She was demanding revenge and US$500,000 for her role as a translator in the sale of French submarines to Malaysia. A French prosecutorial team continues to probe the sale of the subs to Malaysia and whether kickbacks were paid to top French and Malaysian politicians.

In July of 2008, as the trial droned on, Balasubramaniam issued a statutory declaration alleging that Najib, then the deputy prime minister, was involved in the murder, only to retract the entire contents of the declaration a day later and issue a second saying he had made the first under duress (Note: Both declarations can be found here).

Balasubramaniam’s lawyer, Americk Sidhu, denounced the closing of the case, saying that if the supposedly false statements were investigated thoroughly by police, they would have led to the conclusion that people close to Najib were involved in the murder.

De facto Law Minister Nazri Aziz, in a written statement to parliament, said the case was closed because Balasubramaniam had given conflicting statutory declarations, and that anyway, they didn’t affect the trial of two of Najib’s personal bodyguards and Abdul Razak Baginda, which ended in April of 2009 after a 159-day trial in which the bodyguards were sentenced to death. They are appealing the verdict, with suspicions running high that they will somehow be given their freedom in exchange for their silence on whoever ordered them to kill the woman.

“Although there are contradictions between the two statutory declarations, the contradictions do not affect the outcome of the trial of Altantuya,” Nazri said. “Moreover, the individual (Balasubramaniam) is still believed to be abroad.” Nazri added that the decision to close the case was made after “careful consideration” of the results of the police probe and witness statements.

Although the two bodyguards were convicted of the crime, Baginda was acquitted under controversial circumstances without having to put on a defense. He then hurriedly left the country for England, where he has remained ever since. One of the two bodyguards said in a cautioned statement that they had been hired to commit the killing and were to be paid RM100,000 to do it. But the statement was never introduced into the marathon trial and never was anybody asked who had done the hiring or made the payment offer.
The 27-year-old Altantuya, the translator in some phases of the billion-dollar purchase of French Scorpene submarines that netted Baginda’s company €114 million in consulting fees, was shot in the head and her body was blown up with explosives in a patch of jungle near the suburban city of Shah Alam. Before she died, she told Balasubramaniam she had been promised US$500,000 for assisting in the submarine transaction.

In the bodyguard’s cautioned statement, it emerged that Altantuya, almost with her last words, told her two assailants that she was pregnant and begged them not to kill her. That has led to speculation that her body was blown up with C4 explosives to hide any DNA evidence of who the father might be.

Balasubramaniam, who remains somewhere in Chennai, has continued to insist loudly that Razak Baginda, who is married, had told him that the translator had been Najib’s sexual companion before the then-deputy prime minister passed her on to Baginda because it wouldn’t look good for a prospective prime minister to have a girlfriend.

After making the first declaration, Balasubramaniam was hauled into a Kuala Lumpur police station, where he was forced to recant it in a second under threat to his family, he later testified. After that, according to statements he made under oath, he was taken to meet with Mohamad Nizam Razak, Najib’s brother, and Deepak Jaikishan, described as a “business associate” of Najib’s wife, Rosmah Mansor, where he was promised RM5 million to leave the country and shut up. He later displayed cancelled checks showing he had been paid RM750,000 out of an account maintained by Jaikishan. According to his sworn statement, Balasubramaniam said Rosmah was “very pleased” that he had agreed to retract the statutory declaration and wanted to have breakfast with him.

Nazri told the parliament that Balasubramaniam was initially investigated for providing false statements, which would make him liable to three years in jail and a fine. That makes it a mystery why the case was dropped against him, since one of the statutory declarations was demonstrably false – either the one implicating Najib and describing the murder, or the one recanting it. A team from the Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission first made an appointment to interview Balasubramaniam in the UK, where he was staying out of fear for his safety, but cancelled the appointment without an explanation.

“The evidence is staring you in the face,” Sidhu said in a telephone interview from Australia. “A whole pile of witnesses can confirm the first statement and who have been investigated by the police have said the original statement was made of his own free will. If they had investigated, they would have had to interview Rosmah, Nizam and Jaikashan over the checks to Bala.They can’t afford to charge him. If they do that, they would hang themselves. They had no alternative but to close the file to save Najib and his entourage.”

http://ubpost.mongolnews.mn/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5522&Itemid=36

Update.......!!!

Acong

The prime minister, the private investigator, the murder of a Mongolian model, and 114 million euros
By Jonathan Manthorpe, Vancouver Sun November 15, 2010


Malaysia's Prime Minister Najib Razak, his wife Rosmah Mansor, Prince Albert II of Monaco, Maira Nazarbayev of Kazakhstan and Qatar's Prime Minister Sheikh Hamad Bin Jassim Bin Jabr Al-Thani pose as they arrive at the Islamic Fashion Festival in Monte Carlo August 9, 2010.
Photograph by: Sebastien Nogier, REUTERS

The remaining loose ends are being tied off in the seemingly determined efforts to ensure Malaysia's prime minister, Najib Tun Razak, is not embroiled in the still unresolved murder by two of his bodyguards of a Mongolian model and translator.

Distancing the prime minister from the murder also creates some space between Najib and 114 million euros ($160 million) in "consulting fees" paid by the French warship manufacturer DCN for Malaysia's order of two Scorpene submarines when Najib was defence minister.

Malaysia's law minister, Nazri Aziz, has told parliament that authorities have closed the case against private investigator P. Balasubramaniam, the man who tied Najib to the 2006 murder of 27-year-old model Altantuya Shaariibuu.

Altantuya worked as translator for Najib and his close friend and adviser on defence matters, Abdul Razak Baginda, in the negotiations with the French.

Balasubramaniam has said she told him she was to be paid $500,000 for her part in the submarine deal.

Balasubramaniam was facing charges of making false statements after he made a statutory declaration in July, 2007, that Najib, then the deputy prime minister, was Altantuya's lover and involved in her murder.

The private detective said Najib had handed Altantuya on to become his friend Baginda's lover when the opportunity for Najib to become prime minister presented itself.

Two of Najib's bodyguards, Chief Insp. Azilah Hadri and Cpl. Sirul Azhar Umar, were convicted of Altantuya's murder in April last year.

But the day after Balasubramaniam filed the declaration, he made another one saying the first was written under duress.

He then left the country, but popped up in Britain last year to say the first statement implicating Najib was the correct one. When last heard of, Balasubramaniam was in India.

Law Minister Nazri said the case against the private eye was being dropped because "although there are contradictions between the two statutory declarations, the contradictions do not affect the outcome of the trial" of the bodyguards.

This leap of logic has left many Malaysians gasping.

Although they are well used to seeing their legal system tailored to political requirements, the events around the Altantuya case have stretched credibility beyond the bounds of reality.

Balasubramaniam entered the case in 2006 when he was hired by Baginda. Baginda had recently jilted Altantuya, but she refused to accept the end of the affair and wanted her share of the 114 million euros the French state-owned shipbuilder DCN had paid to a consulting company set up by Baginda.

Altantuya took to demonstrating loudly outside Baginda's house in Kuala Lumpur and he hired Balasubramaniam to keep her away from him.

But on the evening of Oct. 19, 2006, the two bodyguards bundled Altantuya into a car and drove her to the jungle outside Kuala Lumpur, where they shot her in the head and blew up her body with C-4 military explosives.

In one statement, one of the bodyguards said they were paid 100,000 Malaysian ringgits ($36,000) to commit the murder. In another statement, one said they blew up the body because Altantuya begged them not to kill her because she was pregnant. The idea was to make it impossible to identify the father.

With oversight that defies imagination, no one asked either of the bodyguards during the 159-day trial who had given them the money to kill her.

But very early in the proceedings, before any significant evidence had been heard, the judge saw fit to dismiss charges against Baginda, saying there was no case for him to answer.

Baginda promptly hightailed it to Britain, where he has remained since.

But there are still a couple of dangerous loose ends in the story over which the government of Prime Minister Najib does not have full control.

One is that the government of Mongolia has said it will fund a civil suit by Altantuya's family against the Malaysian government and Baginda.

The other is that French prosecutors continue to investigate the 114-million euros kickback given by DCN to secure the submarine sale to Malaysia.

jmanthorpe@vancouversun.com
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windof

Reply 208# Acong


   isk...isk...isk... tak habih lagi cerita ni.... ingat kot dah tutup.... ada lagi yg coba membukak balik....isk...isk...isk...

Canaletto

lu kan acong, wa tatak paham lah sama lu punya pemikilan. olang sulah cakap "move on" lu masih jugak dengan sentimen lu. lu kalau tatak puas hati nanti PRU13 lu jalankan kewajipan lu sebagai pengundi...wa pun ada simpan gua punya pelasaan pasal itu atantuya ha...wa punya amoi mah...sikalang sudah kasi letup, jadi wa punya stok "geli" sudah talak lagi

jazim

Reply 210# Canaletto

Welkam 2 miew miew miew club

Canaletto

eeerrrrkkkk...wa sulah kena band kah tuan mod. manyak soli ha tuan mod, wa cuma mau kasi nasihat itu acong to GET A LIFE looorr!

robotech

Sbnrnya, aku plg kesian dgn TLDM ... sbb isu minah Mongolia kena letup turut terpalit pd organisasi yg byk berjasa pd negara.

Tp isu Altantuya ni ada juga hikmahnya ... kurg2 rmendedahkan penglibatan jerung2 perkasa dlm pemerolehan aset ketenteraan yg byk merugikan duit rakyat marhaen.

Isu2 cm ni takkan lari drp manipulasi politik. Biar lah, kang isu ni pandai senyap sendiri ... cam kes PERISTA 1980an dulu.

Acong

Salah sape TLDM jadik kambing hitam? :re:

Acong

Malaysian PM's Scorpene scandal gathers steam in France
SPECIAL REPORTS
Monday, 29 November 2010 Super Admin

Any investigation into corruption at the levels now underway in France is inherently unpredictable given the interests involved. What began as a ripple in Paris may yet build into a tsunami threatening individuals and plans previously thought impervious to such a threat. Questioning Abdul Razak Baginda might be a place to start.

Malaysia Chronicle

Questions over the sale of French-built Scorpene submarines to militaries across the world may finally ensnare some of France's highest-ranking leaders.In addition, Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak should be starting to get nervous, along with officials in India, Chile and Brazil.

Questions over the sale of French-built Scorpene submarines to militaries across the world may finally ensnare some of France's highest-ranking leaders.

They include former French president Jacques Chirac, former prime ministers Dominique de Villipin and Edouard Balladur and the country's current president Nicholas Sarkozy, as well as an unknown number current and former French defence executives.

In addition, Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak should be starting to get nervous, along with officials in India, Chile and Brazil.

Lawyers for the families of 11 French engineers killed in a 2002 bomb attack in Karachi were quoted earlier this month as saying they would file a manslaughter suit against Chirac, allegedly because he cancelled a bribe to Pakistani military officials in the sale of three Agosta 90-class submarines to that country's navy.

Sarkozy was budget minister when the government sold the subs, built by the French defence giant DCN (later known as DCNS) to Pakistan for a reported US$950 million.

Prosecutors allege that Pakistani politicians and military officials and middlemen received large "commissions" with as much as 2 million euros in kickbacks routed back to Paris to fund Balladur's unsuccessful 1995 presidential campaign against Chirac.

As budget minister, Sarkozy would have authorised the financial elements of the submarine sale. At the time he was the spokesman for Balladur's presidential campaign and, according to French media, has been accused of establishing two Luxemburg companies to handle the kickbacks.

Most explosive graft probe in French history

It is alleged that when Chirac was re-elected, the president canceled the bribes to the Pakistanis, which resulted in the revenge attack on a vehicle in which the French engineers and at least three Pakistanis were riding. For years, the Pakistanis blamed the attack on fundamentalist Islamic militants, including Al-Qaeda.

"Our complaint is going to target how the decision was arrived at to stop the commissions," French lawyer Olivier Morice told AFP, saying the suit was prompted by recent testimony from arms executives in the case.

Morice also called for Sarkozy (right), who witnesses have told investigators was linked to the bribes, to be questioned. The French president angrily denounced the allegations. As president, he has immunity and can refuse to be questioned while in office.

Nonetheless, l'affaire Karachi, as it is widely known in France, has been called the most explosive corruption investigation in recent French history, according to AFP. It may well be far bigger than just the unpaid bribes to the Pakistanis.

Executives of DCNS embarked on a global marketing drive to sell the diesel-electric Scorpène-class subs, a new design. They peddled two to the Chilean Navy in 1997, breaking into the market previously dominated by HDN of Germany.

DCNS also sold six Scorpenes in 2005 with the option for six other boats, to India, whose defence procurement agency has been involved in massive bribery scandals in the past. Defence Minister George Fernandes was forced to step down in 2001 after videos surfaced of procurement officials taking bribes.

In 2008, Gen Sudipto Ghosh, the chairman of the Ordnance Factory Board, was arrested and seven foreign companies were barred from doing business in India as a result of a bribery scandal.

In 2008, DCNS also won a bid to supply four Scorpenes to Brazil. DCNS is to provide the hull for a fifth boat that Brazil intends to use as a basis for developing its first nuclear-powered submarine.

The Malaysian connection

DCNS sold the Scorpenes to Pakistan in 1994. At about the same time the French engineers were murdered in 2002, Malaysia placed an US$1 billion order for two Scorpenes in a deal engineered by then-defence minister and deputy prime minister Najib.

In exchange, a company wholly owned by Najib's close friend, Abdul Razak Baginda, was paid 114 million euros in "commissions," according to testimony in the Malaysian parliament.

It is unclear why Malaysia decided to acquire the two boats. A new naval base is being built to house the two at Teluk Sepanggar in Sabah because the waters around peninsular Malaysia are generally too shallow for optimal submarine operations. In addition, the boats were delivered without advanced navigational and weapons gear, which the Royal Malaysian Navy is acquiring at a high cost from individual suppliers.

That episode has been widely reported. Caught up in it, besides Najib and Razak Baginda, was Altantuya Shaariibuu, the Mongolian translator who was murdered in 2006 and whose body was blown up with military grade explosives.

Razak Baginda, her jilted lover, was charged along with two of Najib's bodyguards but was acquitted under unusual circumstances without having to put on a defence. Before she was murdered, Altantuya told witnesses she was to be paid US$500,000 for her role in the submarine deal.

After his release, Razak Baginda immediately decamped for Oxford University and apparently hasn't set foot in Malaysia since. On Nov 5, Malaysian prosecutors closed the book on the case, despite statements by a private investigator that tied Najib to Altantuya's murder.

The case, however, remains alive in France. In April, three French lawyers, William Bourdon, Renaud Semerdjian and Joseph Breham filed a case with prosecutors in Paris on behalf of the Malaysian human rights organisation Suaram, which supports good-governance causes.

Breham journeyed to Malaysia later in April to interview further witnesses. In an email, Breham said he and Bourdon are returning to Southeast Asia to ask more questions next month. If the three lawyers - or any other French or Malaysian prosecutors for that matter - want a witness, Razak Baginda remains in the UK.

Bitter split

The efforts by prosecutors to link Sarkozy to corruption allegations in the Karachi affair may well have ramifications beyond French politics. France's commercial competitors in tightening global defence markets can also be expected to seek advantage from the affair.

The decision in mid-November by DCNS and Navantia of Spain to end their collaboration on building the Scorpene-class of boats purchased by Malaysia now make the companies commercial rivals. This seemingly bitter split may unleash new insights into past business practices, notably from the Spanish side as they seek to promote their S80 submarines against the Scorpenes.

France can also expect little support from Britain, where suggestions that the two navies share aircraft carriers as a cost-cutting measure have been met with a mixture of rage and derision.

Further, any revelations of systemic corruption within the French naval shipbuilding sector could present opportunities for in Britain seeking an escape from seemingly watertight contracts with French and shipyards for the construction of two large aircraft carriers.

Any investigation into corruption at the levels now underway in France is inherently unpredictable given the interests involved. What began as a ripple in Paris may yet build into a tsunami threatening individuals and plans previously thought impervious to such a threat. Questioning Abdul Razak Baginda might be a place to start.

SUMBER

semarmesem

never ending story

alphawolf

It is unclear why Malaysia decided to acquire the two boats. A new naval base is being built to house the two at Teluk Sepanggar in Sabah because the waters around peninsular Malaysia are generally too shallow for optimal submarine operations. In addition, the boats were delivered without advanced navigational and weapons gear, which the Royal Malaysian Navy is acquiring at a high cost from individual suppliers.

Idiot mana le tulis camni.....lupa ke laut kat singapore sama 'shallow' dengan semenanjung

d'zeck

Idiot mana le tulis camni.....lupa ke laut kat singapore sama 'shallow' dengan semenanjung
alphawolf Post at 1-12-2010 11:54

penulis merapu dengan artikel tahap dungu macam tu
selalunya berpemikiran ultra kiasu, dan berkemungkinan
besar spesisnya sama dengan pembuka thread ni

hyazinth79

artikel tu nak bagi tahu , pembelian sub adalah satu kerugian , mungkin takut malaysia tambah lagi sub yg ada . kalau shallow us carrier pun tak boleh masuk , setahu aku , teluk sepanggar tu boleh terima us carrier  .

hijazzains

sibukla org2 eropah ni..banker2 depa songlap duit sampai hampir bankrap Spain,Portugal,Greece dan Ireland OK plak...hahahhaha..abehla sume welfare depa kene hapus bagi settle hutang2 bank depa...Ireland yg oenduduak 4 juta je dh hutang US$85 billion....Spain plak external debt dah 85% GDP negara!! Gila...mne lg banyak susah rakyat???

BODOH LA NEGARA2 BARAT NI......TAKYAH NAK TUDUNG BANGKAI GAJAH DGN NYIUR...