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Frogs are nice! They eat mosquitos and prevent plagues. Proud to be a frog!
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Post time 16-6-2010 12:17 PM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by malberi8 at 16-6-2010 12:18

Taking a few passages from the Qur’an out of proper historical and textual context will not give a proper understanding of the religious scripture.

Many passages from the Bible also criticize the Jews. Read the Hebrew Bible, particularly Micah (Chapter 3:1-12) and Hosea (Chapter 8:1-14), in which these prophets condemned the Jews “who abhor justice and pervert all equity” and who “build Zion with blood and Jerusalem with wrong.
” These prophets cursed Israel as a “useless vessel among nations,” and called for the curse of God to “send a fire upon [Judah’s] cities” and to make Jerusalem “a heap of ruins.

” Prophet Ezekiel called Israel, “the house of rebels and a rebellious nation.” (Ezek. Chapter 2)  Similarly, in the Book of Deuteronomy (28:16-68), Moses warns the Jews that God “will send upon you curses, confusion, and frustration, in all that you undertake to do, until you are destroyed and perish quickly, on account of the evil of your doings, because you have forsaken me” (28:20).

In the Gospel of Matthew (23:13-39), Jesus repeatedly admonishes the Jews for their hypocrisy and injustice, and condemns them for the killing of past prophets. Jesus says, “You serpents, you brood of vipers, how are you to escape being sentenced to hell?” Further he says “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, killing the prophets and stoning those who are sent to you! How often would I have gathered your children together as a hen gathers her brood under her wings, and you would not! Behold, your house is forsaken and desolate.”
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Post time 16-6-2010 12:20 PM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by malberi8 at 16-6-2010 12:28

Passages in the Qur’an which criticize the Jews fall primarily into two categories. First, the Qur’an speaks of how some of the Children of Israel turned away from the authentic message revealed to them. They disobeyed God and showed ingratitude for God’s favors on them. They lost the original Tawrat and introduced their own words and interpretations in the divine books. They became arrogant and claimed that they were God’s children and went about vaunting their position as His most chosen people (4:155; 5:13, 18). They also brazenly committed sins and their rabbis and priests did not stop them from doing so (5:63, 79). God raised His Prophet Jesus among them so that he might show them several miracles and thereby guide them to the right path, but they rejected him, attempted to kill him, and even claimed that they had indeed killed him although they had not been able to do so (4:157, 158). God specifically addresses the Children of Israel in many of these passages. This is important, because it shows that the message of the Qur’an was intended for all people, including the Jews, and the criticism was directed against a specific group of people for their specific actions.

The second type of criticism of the Jews is found in passages including those you referenced from Surah al-Ma’idah (5:60-64). These verses criticize the Jews and Christians who ridiculed Prophet Muhammad and his message. They made mockery and sport of his call to prayer, and they rebuked him even though he was calling them to believe in what God revealed to him and to what was revealed before him through their own Prophets. They became spiteful towards him and rejected him since he did not belong to the Children of Israel (2:109; 4:54).
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Post time 16-6-2010 12:22 PM | Show all posts
The Qur’an specifically notes that such criticism is not directed against all Jews. Even when the Qur’an criticizes the Jews it always notes that “among them there are some…” who are pious and righteous people, who command what is right and forbid what is wrong and try to excel each other in acts of charity and goodness. The Qur’an says that such people are assured that whatever good they will do will not be denied them and they shall receive their reward with God (3:113-115). It further says, “Of the people of Moses there is a section who guide and do justice in the light of truth.” (7:159) “We broke them up into sections on this earth. There are among them some that are the righteous, and some that are the opposite. We have tried them with both prosperity and adversity: in order that they might turn (to Us)... As to those who hold fast by the Book and establish regular Prayer, never shall We suffer the reward of the righteous to perish.” (7:168-170)
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Post time 16-6-2010 12:49 PM | Show all posts
to understand the fundamental of Islam n Jews and what make them different and what are similarities

In order to better understand the Qur’an’s portrayal of the Jews it is important to understand the Qur’an’s portrayal of religion itself. Right religion, according to the Qur’an, is submission to God (lit. islam in Arabic). Those who submit to God are, by literal definition, muslim. Thus, islam, in its generic, literal meaning is the religion of all the prophets and messengers from Noah to Abraham to Moses, Jesus, and Muhammad, according to the Qur’an (10:71-72, 84; 2:128-131; 5:110-111). Thus, there is a distinction between the Qur’anic use of the term muslim as a generic term, which refers to someone who submits to God, and the proper noun Muslim, which refers to a follower of the religion founded by Muhammad in the seventh century. Does one need to be a Muslim to be a muslim? Must a Jew who recognizes Muhammad as a messenger and the Qur’an as scripture convert to Islam? The perhaps surprising answer, from a Qur’anic perspective, the answer is, no.

All of the prophets before Muhammad were, according to the Qur’an, muslim, as were those who believed them and followed them. The children of Israel enjoy a special status: “O children of Israel, remember my favor which I bestowed upon you, and that I favored you above all creation.” (Qur’an 2:47, 2:122). *

The Qur’an discusses God’s favors and covenant with the Children of Israel in detail:

O children of Israel, indeed we delivered you from your enemy and made a covenant with you on the right side of the mountain, and we sent down for you manna and quails. (20:80) *


Indeed we gave the children of Israel the Book, and wisdom, and the prophecy, and we provided them with good things and favored them above all creation. (45:16) *


We made a covenant with the children of Israel: “Serve none except God. Be good to parents, relatives, orphans, and the poor. Speak kindly to people. Establish prayer and give alms.” Afterward, you turned away, except a few of you, and you were averse. (2:83) *


Their special status and covenant with God gives the children of Israel a great responsibility: the responsibility to uphold the covenant and abide by the law and guidance God has given them. So, what of the Qur’an’s criticism of Jews? An indication of the problem appears at the end of verse 2:83, above: Afterward, you turned away, except a few of you, and you were averse. Just as it provides details of God’s favors and covenant with the children of Israel, the Qur’an also discusses violations of that covenant.

Moses came to you with clear proofs, yet you took the calf [for worship] in his absence, and you turned wicked. (Qur’an 2:92) *

We made a covenant with you, that you not shed each others’ blood, nor evict each other from your homes. You agreed and bore witness. Yet it is you who are killing each other and evicting a group among you from their homes, supporting each other against them unlawfully and aggressively; and if they should come to you as captives you would ransom them—while evicting them was unlawful for you. Do you then believe in a part of the Book and disbelieve in the other? (Qur’an 2:84-85) *

You have known those among you who violated the Sabbath, so we said to them: “Be despicable ape.” (Qur’an 2:65)

It is in a similar context that the Qur’an uses the term “apes and swine,” in Qur’an 5:60, though in that verse, it is not said in reference to Jews. Here is 5:60 in its entirety:

Say: “Shall I inform you of something worse in the sight of God: those whom God has cursed and with whom he is angry, and he has made some of them apes and swine and servants of evil. These are in a worse position and more astray from the even path.” *

While some people may claim that the above refers specifically to the Jews, reading the verse in its context shows this is not necessarily accurate. This is clear from verses 5:57-58.

O you who believe, do not befriend those who make a mockery of your religion from among those who were given the Book before you or the disbelievers. Reverence God, if you are truly believers. When you call to prayer they make a mockery and a game of it. This is because they are a people who do not understand. *

As these verses show, the discussion is about those who make a mockery of religion, whether they are those who received previous scripture or those who are disbelievers. Of course, Jews are among those who received previous scripture, which is the basis of the claim that verse 5:60 refers to Jews. However, there is no Qur’anic basis for claiming that it refers exclusively or even primarily to Jews. The emphasis in the discussion is not the religion of, or lack thereof, of those with whom God was so angry that he cursed them and some of them apes, swine, and servants of evil. The emphasis is on the actions that may lead to such retribution from God—making a mockery of the religion of those who believe in God and in a scripture the mockers do not accept. Some of those mockers are among those who received previous scriptures:

Say, “O people of the scripture, do you resent us because we believe in God, and in what was sent down to us, and in what was sent down before us, and because most of you are not righteous?” (Qur’an 5:59) *

But does this mean all of those who received the previous scripture? Other verses of the Qur’an make it clear that it is not.

They are not all alike; among the people of the Book there is an upstanding community. They recite God’s revelations through the night, and they fall prostrate. They believe in God and the last day. They advocate good and forbid evil, and they hasten to do good works. These are among the righteous. Whatever good they do will not be denied. God knows those who are reverent. (Qur’an 3:113-115). *

Surely those who believe, those who are Jews, the Sabians, and the Christians, whoever believes in God and the last day and does good, has nothing to fear nor will they grieve. (Qur’an 5:69) *

The above verses clearly extend the promise of God to all who believe and do good, whether they are believers in the Qur’an or not. Those who are criticized in the Qur’an are those who fail to uphold their covenant with God. Nothing in the Qur’an calls on the Jews to abandon the Torah in favor of the Qur’an. Quite the opposite. The Qur’an repeated declares that it comes to confirm the previous scripture, not to supplant it. Indeed, the Qur’an criticizes the Jews of Medina for coming to Muhammad for judgment when they had the Torah:

How do they make you a judge while they have the Torah in which is God’s law? Then they turn back after that—these are not believers. (Qur’an 5:43) *

The following verse further emphasizes the importance of the Torah, and the fact that those who follow it are submitting to God.

We sent down the Torah, in which there is guidance and light, by which the prophets who submitted judged the Jews, as did the rabbis and the priests, according to what they were required to observe of God’s Book, and thereunto were they witnesses. So do not fear people, but fear me, and do not sell my signs for minor gain. Whoever does not judge by what God has sent down are disbelievers. (Qur’an 5:44) *

Considering all of these verses, whether they are speaking to or about the children of Israel, or the Jews, or people of the Book, it is clear that Qur’anic criticism and condemnation is aimed not at the Jews as a people, but only at those among them who fail to reverence God and uphold their covenant with Him. Moreover, the Qur’an calls on Jews to adhere to what God has sent down in the Torah. So, if a Jew recognizes Muhammad as a messenger and the Qur’an as God’s Book, should follow the Torah. To do otherwise would be to disobey the Qur’an. The Qur’an also offers a clear remedy for religious bigotry and intolerance:

We have sent down the Book to you in truth, verifying what is before it of the Book and a standard of comparison for it; therefore judge between them by what God has sent down, and do not follow their low desires, turning away the truth that has come to you; for each of you we have ordained a law and a way of doing things. If God wished, He would have made you a single community, but he tests you according to what he has given you, so compete with each other in doing good. Your return is to God, and then He will let you know about that in which you differed. (Qur’an 5:48) *

Let us consider these words from the Qur’an with care and open our minds and our hearts to the possibility of accepting that God has given our communities different traditions and practices by which we serve Him, so that we can begin to compete with each other in doing good for His sake and our own.
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Post time 17-6-2010 02:10 AM | Show all posts
Lots of spam. Fact remains: Both Bible and Koran say that this land is assigned to Jews several times. And nowhere say that it will be revoked from Jews.
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Post time 17-6-2010 02:13 AM | Show all posts
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Palestinians shop for food at a grocery store in Gaza City during a three hours suspension of fire in Gaza City on January 8, 2009. The death toll from Israel's war on Hamas rose to 763 today after new raids and dozens of bodies were found during a suspension in Israel's bombing, medics said. About 20 people, among them many women and children, were killed in new raids by the Israeli military on today, said Mouawiya Hassanein, head of Gaza's emergency services. Rescuers also found many bodies in debris while searching during a three hour suspension in hostilities across Gaza between 1100 GMT and 1400 GMT, he said.



British journalist and peace activist Lauren Booth, sister-in-law of former British premier Tony Blair who is now an international Middle East peace envoy, shops at a grocery store in Gaza City on September 3, 2008. Booth said today she is trapped in Gaza as Israel refuses to let her leave the Palestinian territory she entered aboard a protest boat. AFP PHOTO/MAHMUD HAMS (Photo credit should read MAHMUD HAMS/AFP/Getty Images)



GAZA CITY, GAZA - SEPTEMBER 01: Palestinians shop in the popular Alzaoya market, in the first day of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, on September 01, 2008 in Gaza City, Gaza. Ramadan is the ninth month of the Islamic calendar, a month of purification where Muslims fast from dawn to sunset, seeking a higher level of spiritual consciousness through self restraint and good deeds. (Photo by Abid Katib/Getty Images)



GAZA CITY, GAZA - SEPTEMBER 01: Palestinians shop in the popular Alzaoya market, in the first day of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, on September 01, 2008 in Gaza City, Gaza. Ramadan is the ninth month of the Islamic calendar, a month of purification where Muslims fast from dawn to sunset, seeking a higher level of spiritual consciousness through self restraint and good deeds. (Photo by Abid Katib/Getty Images)
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Post time 17-6-2010 07:35 AM | Show all posts
Ni gambar negara mana..cuba tengok lak belah israel...
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Post time 17-6-2010 10:15 AM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by malberi8 at 17-6-2010 10:18
Lots of spam. Fact remains: Both Bible and Koran say that this land is assigned to Jews several time ...
Nick_Perelman Post at 17-6-2010 02:10 AM



Taking a few passages from the Qur’an and bible out of proper historical and textual context will not give a proper understanding of these religious scriptures. you only read  part of it n then spread lies ,even when you dont even understand it at all..

spamm? now you said its a spam... ha ha ha...is that all you can say? its all good reading material to undestandboth the what is Jews and what is Islam and why we are having this problem in Palestine. To have a good dbate you must show facts and proof to support your claims.. not by just a few translation of the quran or bible and you claim its a proof...in the Quran that not only passage about the jews or the holy land!!

bible and koran say lots of other things too ..like how they have forbidden the jews to enter temple mount, forbidden them to have a state or nations becoz all the wrong doing and sins the jews have commit..even their rabii have admit it.. they will never allow to enter the holy land untill all of them follow the true teaching of Torah, they have the right to enter the holy land but only in peace and not war or by a single drop of blood....not like today!!

but i guess you would not understand, you only read part of it then spread lies... believe me you will be rot in hell!! sometimes i wonder if the zionist jews really have brainwash you guys when you train with them...or you are just one of those racist who only wanted to bring hatred towards the moslem people .....
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Post time 17-6-2010 04:21 PM | Show all posts
Taking a few passages from the Qur’an and bible out of proper historical and textual context  ...
malberi8 Post at 17-6-2010 10:15

Fact #1 Both Bible and Koran say several times that Holy Land is assigned to Jews.
Fact # 2 Both Bible and Koran never say that this this title is revoked from Jews.

You can write lots of bla bla bla but it wont changes these facts.


not by just a few translation of the quran or bible and you claim its a proof...

I brought u Arabic text as well

they will never allow to enter the holy land untill all of them follow the true teaching of Torah,

Many Jews in Israel follow true teachings of Torah.


they have the right to enter the holy land but only in peace and not war or by a single drop of blood....

Really? Jewish King David, who was a great prophet according to Islam, shed lots of blood. Koran describes Gideon wars as well.
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Post time 17-6-2010 06:06 PM | Show all posts
tak guna berdebat dengan jehuds lidah bercabang tuh... depa mmg pandai konar dan putaq alam... bolayan jer...tak akan depa hirau punya nasihat dan pandangan orang lain... depa kan perasan bagus....
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Post time 18-6-2010 07:44 AM | Show all posts
bo layan saja!
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Post time 18-6-2010 05:24 PM | Show all posts
Apa yang kita dapat daripada serangan ini adalah penggunaan sistem radar dan komunikasi Jamming oleh israel amat kedepan..sehinggakan perhubungan satelit pun dapat disekat..agak agak ada tak sistem yang boleh counter terknologi seperti ini... jom kita bincang..
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Post time 18-6-2010 08:01 PM | Show all posts
Reply 280# tempur


   ada...mesia punya lagi 20 kali ke depan.... siap boleh hantaq balik sejata depa pi makan tuan....
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Post time 19-6-2010 02:09 AM | Show all posts
CAN ISRAEL IMPOSE A NAVAL BLOCKADE ON GAZA?

Yes it can, according to the law of blockade which was derived from customary international law and codified in the 1909 Declaration of London. It was updated in 1994 in a legally recognized document called the "San Remo Manual on International Law Applicable to Armed Conflicts at Sea."

WHAT ARE INTERNATIONAL WATERS?

...Under the law of a blockade, intercepting a vessel could apply globally so long as a ship is bound for a "belligerent" territory, legal experts say.

CAN ISRAEL USE FORCE WHEN INTERCEPTING SHIPS?

Under international law it can use force when boarding a ship.

OPPONENTS HAVE CALLED ISRAEL'S RAID "IRACY." WAS IT?

No, as under international law it was considered a state action.

"Whether what Israel did is right or wrong, it is not an act of piracy. Piracy deals with private conduct particularly with a pecuniary or financial interest," Kraska said.


Sejak tahun bila Zionies pandai guna-pakai international law plak nih..?
Takajot laa kejap bila baca posting sorang wannabe nih. Bodow kaa apaaa.
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Post time 19-6-2010 02:12 AM | Show all posts
Komando Zionies tanpa senjata......terbukti fonen.
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Post time 19-6-2010 03:22 PM | Show all posts
The city of Jerusalem is very sacred to Muslims. It is one of the three most sacred cities in Islam. Jerusalem is called al-Quds al-Sharif (the Noble Sacred Place). In order to understand the sacredness of this city in Islam, one has to understand the faith structure of Islam. There are three basic principles of faith in Islam:

1. Belief in the oneness of Allah (Tawhid).
2. Belief in the divine guidance through His chosen Prophets and Messengers (Risalah).
3. Belief in the life after death, divine judgment and heaven and hell (Akhirah).

It is the second principle of faith in Islam in Islam that is directly related to our love and devotion to Jerusalem.

Place of Jerusalem in the Islamic Faith

Islam recognizes all the Prophets and Messengers of Allah. The Quran has mentioned many Prophets by name. Their stories and teachings are told at varying length throughout the Quran. Abraham, Moses, David, Solomon, Zechariah, John the Baptist (Yahya) and Jesus - peace be upon them all - are among the honored Prophets and Messengers of Allah according to Islam.

Jews and Christians also recognize Prophets David and Solomon as great kings and patriarchs of ancient Israel.

However, in Islam they are honored as Allah's great Prophets. The Quran not only narrated their stories, but also restored their honor by removing some of the charges and allegations that were made against their characters by earlier communities.

Prophet David (peace be upon him) was accused in the Bible o f committing adultery (2 Samuel 11 - 12) and Prophet Solomon (peace be upon him) was accused of idolatry. (1 Kings 11). The Quran absolved them from all these charges. (28:21 - 25; 38:30). This shows that David and Solomon (peace be upon them) are more revered and respected in Islam than in Jewish and Christian traditions.

Since the city of Jerusalem is historically associated with these Prophets of Allah, it naturally becomes a city sacred to Muslims.

Islam considers itself a continuation of the same spiritual and ethical movement that began with the earlier Prophets.

Historically and theologically it believes itself to be the true inheritor of the earlier traditions of the Prophets and Messengers of Allah. It is for this reason that the Quran called for Palestine - the land associated with the lives of many of God's Prophets - al-ard al-Muqaddasah (the Sacred Land; 5:21) and called its surroundings barakna hawlaha (God's Blessed Precincts; 17:1).

The sacredness of the city of Jerusalem, according to Islam, is in its historical religious reality. This is the city that witnessed the life and works of the greatest Prophets and Messengers of Allah. Here the Divine Grace touched the earth repeatedly. Allah's great Prophets and Messengers lived and moved in its valleys and its streets. Makkah and Madinah are blessed cities in Islam because of their association with the Prophets Abraham, Ishmael and Mohammed. In a similar way Jerusalem is blessed and important in Islam because of its association with other Prophets of Allah, namely David, Solomon and Jesus.

Jews and Christians do not recognize Ishmael and Mohammad as God's Prophets and Messengers, so they do not consider Makkah and Madinah as sacred cities.

However, Muslims believe in Prophets Moses, David, Solomon and Jesus, and so they must recognize the sacredness and importance of Jerusalem in Islam.
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