THE LORD OF THE RINGS : KONSPIRASI DUNIA

sky_ephemeris

just like your human god

He is the Word! You better watch on what you just said. He is divine when He performs miracles, when He suffers He is a human.

unekspekted_II

tak baik tau awak ni  awak tak paham apa-apa pasal our divinity awak tak payah la sampai kata ...
sky_ephemeris Post at 16-11-2010 12:20

that is what you get when you levelled A God with a Human.. so.. be open to accept it

unekspekted_II

Reply 101# sky_ephemeris

He is divine when He performs miracles

So as thousands prophets that roaming the earth.. they were also performed miracles

sky_ephemeris

He's the Messiah that liberates human from sins, the one who showed Resurrection is true. He's divine. "Nabi" awak tu pon ikutkan kefahaman awak semua adalah "divine." Free from sins. Awak pergi check balik maksud divine tu amende! Tak payah open your thick dictionary just enough clicking on google. So, awak nak cakap kitorang sembah manusia, awak patut suruh kitorang hinakan Jesus macam Romans. Anyway awak tak layak cakap macam tu kat kitorang. You're not our Church Fathers n awak pun tak kenal who is Jesus as the Church body himself.

Skang sky takkan jawab lagi nanti mengganggu pengguna lain yang takut dipesongkan akidah. Awak pergi board RSF or Christianity cakap saja. Sky nak belajar pasal teori konspirasi dalam board legend (bukan board epistemology ke?, hehe ).

unekspekted_II

Reply 104# sky_ephemeris

HERE.. you dont have to stress that "Jesus" is God.. sebab.. most of us tau..= Jesus is 'human'.. eating, peeing and shitting.. rite???

and.. Muslim does not worship something that peeing and shitting like human


pLUS..

"Nabi" awak tu pon ikutkan kefahaman awak semua adalah "divine."

..nabi2 tidak "Divine".. tapi "maksum"..


"Divine" is much more farthest than "maksum".. tidak beranak... tidak diperanakkan.. tidak menghendakki.. tidak makan tidak minum.. tidak kencing dan berak.. === that is Muslim  standard of "Divine".. unlike Christian


So.. by keep repeating "Jesus is Divine" statement --- you make an invitation for argument . sebab.. Muslim tak pecaye yg Jesus itu "Divine".. dia "Prophet" of old.. same mcm Moses, Solomon, Joseph etc.

sky_ephemeris

LOL, sky tak suruh awak Muslim percaya pun Jesus is God! Awak ingat sky nak berdakwah ke kat sini macam Muslim kat board Christian?!

Divine is latin word for those who have the ability to foresee future. Jesus could foresee future. Of course those "prophets" that you said could foresee future but they are not CENTRAL figure in Christianity and we follow Jesus examples.

Memang lar Jesus manusia. Awak ni paham ker tak? Dia melakukan miracles, maka Dia mempunyai kuasa supernatural yang datang dari Father! Dia manusia bila melalui segala penderitaan, yang mana dia keluar darah sama macam manusia. Awak tak payah sebut lar kencing berak najis ke. Awak nak saya cakap macam tu jugak kat figure agama awak ke? You have no sense of manner! :@ sky nak berbaik dengan sume orang!

sky_ephemeris

Awak list down all of the meanings hidden behind the word DIVINE! Maaf off topic abang CK.

unekspekted_II

Reply 106# sky_ephemeris

Memang lar Jesus manusia. Awak ni paham ker tak? Dia melakukan miracles, maka Dia mempunyai kuasa supernatural yang datang dari Father!
   

and so as the thousand prophets.. like Moses, Abrahan, Isaac, Joseph etc.. why don't you worship them instead of Jesus alone??

unekspekted_II

Dia manusia bila melalui segala penderitaan, yang mana dia keluar darah sama macam manusia.

dia manusia = dia jugak kencing dan berak.. rite?? kenape pulak malu nak mengaku........ ???

sky_ephemeris

Reply 108# unekspekted_II

He is His Word, Kalimat awak faham tak what is Kalimat? God manifests in Him! Awak sembah raja awak buat apa?! Sampai hari ni pun sky nampak orang Melayu sembah raja awak, kita yang non-Malay pun kena sembah jugak kalau tak kena keris. Saya tanya awak pulak, Quran awak sebut pasal Jesus, kenapa awak tak masuk Christianity yang 'asli'?

sky_ephemeris

dia manusia = dia jugak kencing dan berak.. rite?? kenape pulak malu nak mengaku........ ???
unekspekted_II Post at 16-11-2010 13:15

takkan lar sampai private parts pun nak sebut jugak? awak nak ke saya sebut nabi awak ajar cara cuci taik, cara berjimak seks dengan bidadari? ni nanti mesti saya kena bunuh dengan orang Melayu. awak sebut macam tu tak terguris ke rasa hati saya dan saudara-saudari se-Christian saya?

unekspekted_II

He is His Word, Kalimat awak faham tak what is Kalimat? God manifests in Him!

itu Kalamullah = sent down earth, jadi Injeel, Torah, and Quran.. God does not menifest himself into human, who turn to be 'imperfect' by peeing and shitting like yours

Awak sembah raja awak buat apa?!

"sembah" melayu sembah hormat. .. bukan 'sembahyang' diletak patung dan disembah hari2..

Saya tanya awak pulak, Quran awak sebut pasal Jesus, kenapa awak tak masuk Christianity yang 'asli'?

interesting... the origin of Jesus - teaching Oneness of God = sebab dia sendiri helpless dan meminta tolong mase di taman gethmane...

By the times.. "Christian" adopted the pagan roman ritual... christian became corrupted = then after the Council of NIcea.. barulah klua doctrin TRINITY..

nampak??  Jesus is Islam, and a Prophet  = who submitted to ONE GOD.. so as we are Muslim.. ---- so, we are the original followers, including jesus himself

But you christian.. worship him, but denying fact that he is "Human" who are peeing and shitting like other prophets

unekspekted_II

Reply 111# sky_ephemeris

takkan lar sampai private parts pun nak sebut jugak? awak nak ke saya sebut nabi awak ajar cara cuci taik, cara berjimak seks dengan bidadari?

see the different????


if you worship human = you kene accept the imperfection of human dalam Tuhan kamu.. dan jangan marah klu kami ckp bende yg FACTS..


but,


If you worship the 1 true God --- not a human, but God = you don't have the point to belittle him

unekspekted_II

awak nak ke saya sebut nabi awak ajar cara cuci taik, cara berjimak seks dengan bidadari?

dalam Islam.. bende2 ni bukan satu kejian.. itu adalah ilmu :

cuci taik : namenye ilmu beristinjak
berjimak : namenye ilmu munakahat..

ade panduan yg lengkap.. SEBAB.. semuanya telah di set kan dan di ajar oleh Prophet Muhammad, - and itu gunenye Prophet.. - mengajar manusia.. same mcm Jesus

sky_ephemeris

itu Kalamullah = sent down earth, jadi Injeel, Torah, and Quran.. God does not menifest himself into human, who turn to be 'imperfect' by peeing and shitting like yours

Tadi awak cakap "nabi" is clean from any sins or imperfection. skarang awak kata imperfect pulak. Awak ingat kitorang semua pikir Jesus tu a God that takes His place ke? We worship the God that manifests in Him. Understand?! Susah cakap dengan Malays ni bab-bab divinity. You will never understand it.  

"sembah" melayu sembah hormat. .. bukan 'sembahyang' diletak patung dan disembah hari2..

awak ingat saya tak tau konsep dewaraja orang Melayu? Jesus is our King, our Saviour. Ni saya sebut our ni takut awak ingat saya include awak plak. sorry, saya tak include awak atau orang Melayu pun. Awak ingat kalo takde salib dan icon Jesus or orang-orang alim kami tak boleh memuja Tuhan ke? Awak ingat saya tak tahu konsep tawasul orang Islam?! Awak pergi bukak buku tengok tawasul is what!

awak ingat letak icon tu berhala ke? awak ni nampak sangat tak pernah masuk gereja either roman catholic or orthodox. awak rajin-rajin pergi melawat. saya tengok orang islam mengadap ke dinding dan latai hari-hari takkan lar sembah dinding dan lantai kot? sky tahu orang Islam semayang macam mana dun worry. Sky melawat masjid sb kawan sky orang Islam ramai. Sky pun selalu tengok azan maghrib.

interesting... the origin of Jesus - teaching Oneness of God = sebab dia sendiri helpless dan meminta tolong mase di taman gethmane...

By the times.. "Christian" adopted the pagan roman ritual... christian became corrupted = then after the Council of NIcea.. barulah klua doctrin TRINITY..

nampak??  Jesus is Islam, and a Prophet  = who submitted to ONE GOD.. so as we are Muslim.. ---- so, we are the original followers, including jesus himself

But you christian.. worship him, but denying fact that he is "Human" who are peeing and shitting like other prophets

Nabi awak kenapa kata Christians dekat dengan Islam masa peperangan Romans dan Persians? Orang Byzantine tu semua pakai Nicene Creed. Memang lar Jesus human, ishhhhh awak ni! God manifests in Him. Penat lar cakap dengan awak macam radio rosak.

Awak tak payah ajar saya. Nicene Creed tu smua Gereja sekarang pakai including the Oriental Churches. Hanya stengah orang Christian aja including yang dalam Catholicism sky percaya ada adhere kat heretical belief kat Jesus macam orang Syi'ah awak tu.

Awak tak paham apa-apa tak perlu lar sebut hal shitting and peeing tu. Saya ingat orang Melayu bersopan santun. Ni terbalik pulak

benign

Kalau diperhatikan perkataan LOTR tu sendiri sangat misteri. Ia seakan akan ejaan LOTTER, bekas peserta Akademi Fantasia. Apa kaitannya LOTR dengan LOTTER. Saya difahamkan, fahaman LOTR telah lama bertapak di Malaysia sebelum Tolkien dilahirkan lagi. Apa kaitan LOTR dan LOTRI.

mari kita sama sama fikirkan.

Tapi jangan risau. Ini semua Syed Sobrie punya angkara. Hehe

unekspekted_II

Tadi awak cakap "nabi" is clean from any sins or imperfection. skarang awak kata imperfect pulak.

berak dan kencing tak berdosa, dah memang fitrah manusia.. but.. for something we call "GOD" dengan sifat2 mcm tu.. amat keji sekali

awak ingat saya tak tau konsep dewaraja orang Melayu?

clearly you don't know... - semua raja di beri gelaral "al mutawakkil Alallah" - wakil Allah dibumi.. bukan Tuhan.. tapi wakil dan khalifah

Memang lar Jesus human, ishhhhh awak ni! God manifests in Him

you yg confuse... if Jesus is human.. and the god menifest in him also peeing and shitting.. = that make him lesser divine.. bukan Tuhan namenyer tu...

Nabi awak kenapa kata Christians dekat dengan Islam masa peperangan Romans dan Persians?

dia tak cakap "Christian".. or "salibin".. tapi dia cakap "Ahlul KItab".. ahli kitab yg tauhidnya kepada tuhan yang satu... bukan tuhan manusia

Nicene Creed tu smua Gereja sekarang pakai including the Oriental Churches.

and.. you clearly know that "Nicean Creed" does not EXIST during the time of Jesus.. - itu fable created by Constantine for his pagan Trinity concept

sky_ephemeris

Constantine is a Saint! Dah tu awak ingat orang Christian Byzantine tu tak pakai icon dan mintak doa kat orang2 alim ke?

Awak masuk Christian dulu then awak cakap kat saya apa yang awak faham daripada Christianity? Boleh? Lepas tu awak murtad balik jadi Muslim

Saya memang dah selalu kawan dengan orang Islam. Awak tak payah ajar saya konsep keesaan Tuhan. Tiga figures yang CENTRAL dalam Christianity adalah Father, the Son, and Holy Spirit. Awak cakap apa pun awak tak boleh ubah dogma agama saya unless kalau awak pergi jadi Pope dan "revise" balik apa yang "kononnya" silap tu.

ahli kitab tu bukan refers kat Byzantine Christians ke? Haiyooooooooo

sky_ephemeris

clearly you don't know... - semua raja di beri gelaral "al mutawakkil Alallah" - wakil Allah dibumi.. bukan Tuhan.. tapi wakil dan khalifah

raja awak semua tu memang berasal agama islam dah ke? awak ingat saya tak tahu pasal raja2 jawa, raja2 melayu semua yang menganuti hindu-buddhism? wakil Tuhan di atas muka bumi means they have that "pancaran" which came from God. kalau awak tak respect dengan raja awak then how come smua orang boleh takut nak cakap buruk pasal Dia? of course kami sayang dengan Raja spiritual kami iaitu Jesus!

and.. you clearly know that "Nicean Creed" does not EXIST during the time of Jesus.. - itu fable created by Constantine for his pagan Trinity concept

Hello, Jesus memang lar tak ajar. Dah tu rukun iman awak tu sapa yang ajarkan? "Nabi" awak ke? percaya kepada Tuhan, nabi, malaikat semua tu? Benda2 tu ada dalam awak punya scripture but someone sumarizes it.

berak dan kencing tak berdosa, dah memang fitrah manusia.. but.. for something we call "GOD" dengan sifat2 mcm tu.. amat keji sekali

OmGoodness, awak boleh jangan anggap kitorang sama macam Muslim boleh tak?!

you yg confuse... if Jesus is human.. and the god menifest in him also peeing and shitting.. = that make him lesser divine.. bukan Tuhan namenyer tu...

sacred and holy soul berak dan kencing ke?

7anan

sky, hang dolu pakai nick apa hek
mcm penah sembang lah ngn hangnih
hang org chinese ka atau borneo? kata org semenanjung, tp gaya cm melayu jah

aku paham tang nicene creed tuh, tp mmg susah utkk ekspleng kt worg isele utk depa paham sbb tuh depa kata kristian bohkan ahli kitab

tp bila masa quran dituronkan itew, ajaran kristian dh lengkap dgn nicene creed and suma kristian hat ada skitar prophet mohammed pong mmg kristian hat ikot necene creed n thus pakai akidah trinity...dia dh jadi established mainstream christianity dh...means ayat2 quran hat refer pada kristian/nasrani/ahli kitab tuh mmg refer pada org kristian jaman ritu n la ni (sekarang)