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Untold History : Ketuanan Rakyat Bapakk Lu!!!!!

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Post time 20-12-2012 03:10 PM | Show all posts
unekspekted_XII posted on 20-12-2012 02:59 PM
name "Chih Tu" ditulis sebab orang cine tak reti sebut "Tanah Merah".. bahase cine tanah merah ial ...

kalau kerajaan itu ialah drp melayu, ia dah dinamakan dlm sebutan melayu, bukan dlm sebutan cina.

pernahkah dlm IC kamu direkod ikut sebutan bahasa lain, pakai akal fikir pun tahu logiknya. tapi biasalah ketuanan melayu mana dapat menerima sendiri ialah pendatang
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 Author| Post time 20-12-2012 03:23 PM | Show all posts
cmf_herrhughie posted on 20-12-2012 03:10 PM
kalau kerajaan itu ialah drp melayu, ia dah dinamakan dlm sebutan melayu, bukan dlm sebutan cina.
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sebabnye mudah.. orang2 cine.. dari dulu.. sampai sekarang tidak boleh menyebut huruf "R"

Kerajaan Tanah Merah = di translatekan oleh cronicler cina sebagai "Chih Tu" menggunakan bahase dia iaitu bahase cine...
KALAU betul Chih Tu tu orang cine = mane dorang sekarang????? hade???
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Post time 20-12-2012 03:32 PM | Show all posts
cmf_herrhughie posted on 20-12-2012 03:10 PM
kalau kerajaan itu ialah drp melayu, ia dah dinamakan dlm sebutan melayu, bukan dlm sebutan cina.
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tak payah cerita dongeng2, cerita mitos yg banyak kenceng......kasi jawab ini so'lan lojik akal berdsarkan otak yg sihat dulu.....abihtu melayu turun dari langit ke? kaum cina sah sah datang dari tanah cina kan....kekekekeke
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Post time 20-12-2012 03:36 PM | Show all posts
chih tu ka, chih Ta ka, chih ti ka, ceti kaa......itu semua org cerita kenceng jah.......sedangkan sejarah melayu pun munsyi dolah balaci inggeris dah kenceng sampai pening org melayu nak jawab sejarah balik....
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Post time 20-12-2012 03:38 PM | Show all posts
agaknya camna laaa kepala hotak herhughi ni function? aku tak paham....tolong kasi pencerahe sikit
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Post time 20-12-2012 03:54 PM | Show all posts
cmf_herrhughie posted on 20-12-2012 02:41 PM
malay bukan org pertama di semenanjung.

langkasuka bukan malay, tapi siam--fakta

siam? what is siam? its mon and malay people that settled in langkasuka.......u need to read and learn the real history rather than listening from your 'pendatang' grandfather about malay origin in chinese coffee shop.........new research found that malay is the earliest people settled in tanah melayu........nama melayu dah byk mention dlm teks2 lama, kau aje yg tak habis2 nak provok kononnya melayu ni pendatang lebih baru dr cina cuma utk justify yg cina lebih layak memerintah malaya....puiiii...........dasar tak kenang diuntung.........
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Post time 20-12-2012 03:56 PM | Show all posts
unekspekted_XII posted on 20-12-2012 03:23 PM
sebabnye mudah.. orang2 cine.. dari dulu.. sampai sekarang tidak boleh menyebut huruf "R"

Keraj ...

cina kalo jumpa sebijik aje kubur nenek moyang dia yg seribu tahun dulu pun kat mana2 wilayah dlm semenanjung, konpom terus klaim wilayah tu jajahan dia dulu, tak pun diorang yg first bukak wilayah tu.........cetek sungguh pemikiran..........
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Yustan posted on 20-12-2012 03:56 PM
cina kalo jumpa sebijik aje kubur nenek moyang dia yg seribu tahun dulu pun kat mana2 wilayah dlm  ...

'kalau' dia boleh jumpe.. masalah sekarang.. kubur puuuun dorang tak jumpe
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Post time 20-12-2012 04:00 PM | Show all posts
Shen’s article actually devotes only one paragraph to proving the link between Gantuoli and Chitu. He points out that Chinese records describe both Gantuoli and Chitu as being in the “southern seas” (nanhai), implying that both were on islands even though only Gantuoli is specifically described as such. Furthermore, since Gantuoli is said to have had “customs rather similar to Linyi (Champa) and Funan”, Shen argues that the statement that Chitu was “a variant of Funan” need not mean that Chitu was anywhere near the area of Funan, only that its people resembled the Khmer in appearance and customs. Furthermore, the kings of Gantuoli and Chitu are both recorded as having the surname Qutan (Gautama), reflecting their Hindu-Buddhist religion – Shen claims that this “cannot be coincidental, and can only be a sort of relationship in which one succeeded the other”. Gantuoli and Chitu are both described as using golden vessels and dyed cloth. Shen thus concludes that ‘Chitu’ was just an alternative transliteration of the original Malay and Sanskrit forms of Gantuoli, and that it reflected Cantonese pronunciation. The postulation of Cantonese influence is curious, since the names ‘Jintuoli’ and ‘Gantuoli’ were used by the south Chinese Liu-Song and Liang dynasties respectively, while ‘Chitu’ was used by the new Sui dynasty that had arisen in the north and conquered the south. etc.
http://www.chinahistoryforum.com/index.p… (this a lengthy discussion)
http://www.chinahistoryforum.com/index.php?/topic/3998-kingdoms-that-existed-in-thailand-before-sukhothai/
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Post time 20-12-2012 04:01 PM | Show all posts
cmf_herrhughie posted on 20-12-2012 02:39 PM
apakah evidence melaka lawan menang Siam? sejarah melayu aka cerita dongeng beritahu kamu? kenapa  ...

ya.....misi utama cheng ho adalah nak sound siam jgn kacau melaka.........tapi dia dtg bukan sebab dia ni cina, kerana dia ni islam..........so, empayar melaka yg merupakan pusat perdagangan dan keilmuan islam ni amat berharga bagi mana2 org islam pun..........dinasti ming, walaupun ramai org islam dan pentadbir islam tetapi masih tdk dilabel sbg dinasti islam........jd cheng ho yg bijak tu tau betapa berharganya melaka...........dei apek, walaupun cheng ho tak dtg 'sound' siam, atau singgah kat melaka, lu ingat melaka ada goyang ka sama itu siam............ceh..........
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Post time 20-12-2012 04:07 PM | Show all posts
cmf_herrhughie posted on 20-12-2012 02:47 PM
china bertapalk di byk tempat. dan salah satu yg jauh lebih awal drp melaka, langkasuka, gangga na ...

dlm teks china sebut chih tu......tapi bukannya cina yg tinggal kt tanah merah tu.......wei apek, you kaji dulu n bagi concrete prove sblm posting.......you bg byak bullshit aje la.........sejarah sebenar chih tu dh dibongkar bertahun lepas........you pegi balik baca dulu la apa researcher suda kaji..........haiyyyaaaaaa..........
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Post time 20-12-2012 05:06 PM | Show all posts
Yustan posted on 20-12-2012 04:01 PM
ya.....misi utama cheng ho adalah nak sound siam jgn kacau melaka.........tapi dia dtg bukan sebab ...
  1. ya.....misi utama cheng ho adalah nak sound siam jgn kacau melaka.........
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misi utama Cheng Ho adalah utk sound Siam supaya jgn kacau melaka????????

u ingat Melaka begitu penting utk empayar China ke?

u tak tahu ke China protect melaka hanya bila melaka minta tolong? tapi bukan misi utama Cheng Ho la....10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000% SUREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Last edited by cmf_herrhughie on 20-12-2012 05:07 PM

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Post time 20-12-2012 05:09 PM | Show all posts
Yustan posted on 20-12-2012 03:54 PM
siam? what is siam? its mon and malay people that settled in langkasuka.......u need to read and l ...

apa tu malay in the 1st place?
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Post time 20-12-2012 05:52 PM | Show all posts
cmf_herrhughie posted on 20-12-2012 05:09 PM
apa tu malay in the 1st place?

apa tu cina in the 1st place?
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Post time 20-12-2012 05:53 PM | Show all posts
cmf_herrhughie posted on 20-12-2012 05:06 PM
misi utama Cheng Ho adalah utk sound Siam supaya jgn kacau melaka????????:doh3 ...

haiyyaaaaa apek........kalau lu talak satuju.......lu kasi tau la apa dia punya mission..........tapi lu apa pun tarak kasi.......lu cuma kasi fact2 dari itu sekolah lendah punya buku maaa................haiyyaaaaa.............
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Post time 20-12-2012 05:58 PM | Show all posts
Yustan posted on 20-12-2012 05:52 PM
apa tu cina in the 1st place?

cina basically are of ethnic Han.

melayu?
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Post time 20-12-2012 05:59 PM | Show all posts
Yustan posted on 20-12-2012 05:53 PM
haiyyaaaaa apek........kalau lu talak satuju.......lu kasi tau la apa dia punya mission..........t ...

terbukti kebodohan ko...


saya dah pernah post dlm forum, terbukti ko ni buta sejarah dan berlagak pandai...janji reply saja..

bodoh.
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Post time 20-12-2012 08:58 PM | Show all posts
cmf_herrhughie posted on 20-12-2012 02:43 PM
of course, Melayu adalah pendatang yg datang lewat tapi claim sendiri datang awal saja.

of cour ...

kahkahkah. lu mmg bullshit la apek.
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Post time 20-12-2012 09:03 PM | Show all posts
cmf_herrhughie posted on 20-12-2012 02:41 PM
malay bukan org pertama di semenanjung.

langkasuka bukan malay, tapi siam--fakta

ini fakta bullshit apa ni? .....bangsa tai-kadai masuk asia tenggara lepas kena tendang dengan monggol dr yunnan tahun 1200 masihi lebih kurang .Langkasuka atleast abad ke 2 masihi dah diasaskan. macam mana pulak org tai-kadai boleh asaskan langkasuka? beza 1000 tahun tu.
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Post time 20-12-2012 09:08 PM | Show all posts
NBH posted on 20-12-2012 09:03 PM
ini fakta bullshit apa ni? .....bangsa tai-kadai masuk asia tenggara lepas kena tendang dengan mon ...

datang dari tempat lain tetap PENDATANG..takkan u tiba2 tumbuh dari tanah mcm pokok? bodoh
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