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 Author| Post time 18-8-2011 08:16 AM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by wartakita at 18-8-2011 08:19

Why China Wants South China Sea

By Tetsuo Kotani

Beijing is interested in more than just energy and fishery resources. The area is also integral to its nuclear submarine strategy.

In an effort to underscore its importance to Asia, geostrategist Nicholas Spykman once described it as the Asiatic Mediterranean. More recently, it has been dubbed the Chinese Caribbean. And, just as Rome and the United States have sought control over the Mediterranean and Caribbean, China now seeks dominance over the South China Sea.

Its clear that Chinas claims and recent assertiveness have increased tensions in this key body of water. Yet while most attention has focused on Beijings appetite for fishery and energy resources, from a submariners perspective, the semi-closed sea is integral to Chinas nuclear strategy. And without understanding the nuclear dimension of the South China Sea disputes, Chinas maritime expansion makes little sense.

Possessing a credible sea-based nuclear deterrent is a priority for China's military strategy. Chinas single Type 092, or Xia-class, nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarine, equipped with short-range JL-1 submarine-launched ballistic missiles (SLBMs), has never conducted a deterrent patrol from the Bohai Sea since its introduction in the 1980s. However, China is on the verge of acquiring credible second-strike capabilities with the anticipated introduction of JL-2 SLBMs (with an estimated range of 8,000 kilometres) coupled with DF-31 and DF-31A road-mobile intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs). In addition, China plans to introduce up to five Type 094, or Jin-class, SSBNs outfitted with the JL-2 missiles, while constructing an underwater submarine base on Hainan Island in the South China Sea.

Its clear, then, that China is making every effort to keep the South China Sea off limits, just as the Soviet Union did in the Sea of Okhotsk during the Cold War. Back then, the Soviet Union turned to SSBNs as insurance against US capabilities to destroy land-based ICBMs. The need to secure its insurance force from attacks, and the need for effective command and control, meant that Soviet SSBNs had to be deployed close to home, with longer-range missiles to be used to strike the continental United States. In addition to the Barents Sea, Moscow prioritized making the Sea of Okhotsk a safe haven for SSBNs by improving the physical defences of the Kuril Islands and reinforcing the Pacific Fleet based at Vladivostok. The Soviet Pacific Fleet deployed 100 submarines, combined with 140 surface warships, including a Kiev-class light aircraft carrier, to defend its insurance force in the Sea of Okhotsk.

Likewise, China needs to secure its forces in the South China Sea and modify its maritime strategy and doctrine accordingly. Currently, the primary wartime missions of the Peoples Liberation Army Navy are: 1) securing sea approaches to Taiwan; 2) conducting operations in the western Pacific to deny enemy forces freedom of action; 3) protecting Chinese sea lines of communication; and 4) interdicting enemy lines of communication. With the introduction of the Type 094, protecting Chinese SSBNs will become another primary mission, and this mission will require China to kill enemy strategic antisubmarine forces and end the resistance of other claimants in the South China Sea. Chinese anti-access/area-denial capabilities, especially quieter nuclear-powered attack submarines, can be used to counter enemy forward antisubmarine warfare operations. Chinas aircraft carriers, when operational, will be deployed in the South China Sea to silence the neighbouring claimants.

This strategy dates back almost two decades, to a time when China began encircling the South China Sea to fill the power vacuum created by the withdrawal of US forces from the Philippines in 1991. China reasserted historical claims over all the islets, including the Paracel and Spratly archipelagos, and 80 percent of the 3.5 million km2 body of water along the nine-dotted U-shaped line, despite having no international legal ground to do so. Those islets can be used as air and sea bases for intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance activities, and as base points for claiming the deeper part of the South China Sea for PLAN ballistic missile submarines and other vessels. China also interprets the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) in an arbitrary manner and doesnt accept military activities by foreign vessels and overflight in its waters.

Yet China's efforts to dominate the South China Sea face significant challenges. Chinese assertiveness hasnt only inflamed hostilities from other claimants, but has also raised concerns from seafaring nations such as the United States, Japan, Australia, and India. After all, the South China Sea is a recognized international waterway, unlike the Sea of Okhotsk. In addition, since the JL-2 missiles cant reach Los Angeles from the South China Sea, Type 094 submarines need to enter the Philippine Sea, where the US Navy and Japan Maritime Self-Defence Force conduct intense anti-submarine warfare operations.
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Post time 18-8-2011 10:45 AM | Show all posts
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 Author| Post time 23-8-2011 07:45 PM | Show all posts
                                                                                       
Malaysia? additional Scorpen; Grippen, F18, Pakfa, Frigate etc ...

Philippines, Vietnam get warships in China spat

MANILA, Philippines (AP) The Philippines and Vietnam each received warships Tuesday to beef up their navies as they face tensions with China over disputed islands, raising the prospect of a deepening arms race in the South China Sea.


The two Southeast Asian nations also are shopping for additional military assets, including submarines for Vietnam and air defense radars for the Philippines, as the impoverished nations try to gain leverage with their huge northern neighbor while staying within their budgets.

The Philippines has turned to second-hand U.S. hardware: A decommissioned U.S. Coast Guard cutter was formally unveiled Tuesday in Manila port as the most modern vessel in the dilapitated Philippine fleet. Vietnam, meanwhile, received its second, brand new Russian-made guided missile cruiser in the Cam Ranh naval port on Monday, state media reported.


The two countries are at loggerheads with China over disputed Spratly and Paracel Islands in the South China Sea, which Beijing claims in its entirety on historical grounds.


Authorities in Manila and Hanoi have repeatedly accused Chinese vessels this year of interfering with their oil and gas explorations and harassing fishermen within their 200 nautical mile (370 kilometer) exclusive economic zones.


Beijing has named the South China Sea one of its core interests, meaning it could potentially go to war to protect it. Last week, it launched its sea tests of its first aircraft carrier, a refurbished former Soviet vessel.


Along with aircraft carriers, Chinas navy is adding advanced submarines, including those equipped with nuclear weapons, along with new destroyers and amphibious assault ships. Chinas fisheries surveillance and coast guard are benefiting too from new vessels and greater funding, making them increasingly important players in regional disputes.


Despite such moves, Beijing has rejected the notion of maintaining overseas bases and insists that its military expansion is purely defensive in character.


In a recent interview with Germanys Spiegel Online, Vice Foreign Minister Fu Ying said concerns about Chinas naval expansion were based on political ideology and Cold War thinking.


You feel comfortable with aircraft carrier ownership by your allies, like the United States and France, but you are more concerned if China also has one, Fu was quoted as saying.


In July, China and the 10-member Association of Southeast Asian Nations, which includes the Philippines and Vietnam, agreed to work toward a formal code of behavior in waters straddling about 100 Spratly islets, reefs and atolls and one of the worlds busiest ship lanes.

China previously has rejected such a formal mechanism, preferring to deal with individual countries where its sheer size, economic clout and growing military strength give it an advantage.


Chinas defense budget has steadily increased to become the worlds second highest after the U.S., spending $  91.5 billion last year and fielding a military vastly superior to those of any of its Southeast Asian neighbors.


Even if we are three times more prepared than we are now, we (would be) defeated because China can blow us out of the water easily, said security analyst Rex Robles, a retired Philippine navy commodore.


He said an arms race in the regions is counterproductive because if hostilities erupted, every side stands to lose, especially economically.

If war breaks out there, Chinas development will also be stunted, he told The Associated Press. Chinas resources are quite huge, but maybe not enough to sustain a war there.


The Philippines, a U.S. defense treaty partner, is relying on Washington to help modernize its aging fleet, which includes many World War II vessels, one of which is among the oldest active warships in the world.


Philippine President Benigno Aquino III saidTuesday that the U.S.-supplied 3,390-ton Hamilton-class cutter, equipped with the helicopter hangar and flight deck, will advance the Philippines capability to patrol its exclusive economic zone and energy exploration areas.

This modern ship is a symbol of our readiness to take care, guard and if needed, defend the interest and welfare of our nation, Aquino said at a ceremony accompanied by the U.S. ambassador.


The government also is looking at buying more ships, helicopters, jet trainers and air defense radars, he said.


Vietnam said the arrival of the Gepard-class frigate, its most modern warship, marked a new development in improving the combative strength as well as the capability of managing and defending the countrys sea sovereignty, the Thanh Nien newspaper quoted navy commander Nguyen Van Hien as saying.


Vietnam took the delivery of the first warship of this kind in March.


It has also placed an order for six diesel-electric Project 636 Varshavyanka submarines for a total of $  2 billion. The submarines are also known by their NATO nickname Kilos. The delivery of the first submarine is expected in three years.

Associated Press writers Oliver Teves in Manila, Chris Bodeen in Beijing and Margie Mason in Hanoi contributed to this report.

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Post time 24-8-2011 01:45 PM | Show all posts
Vietnam takes delivery of second Russian-made guided missile frigate

HANOI, Vietnam Vietnam has received a second Russian-made guided missile warship as tensions over disputed islands in the South China Sea continue, state media reported Tuesday.

The Gepard class frigate, Vietnams most modern warship, was delivered Monday at the Cam Ranh naval port in central Vietnam, the Thanh Nien newspaper said.

Taking the delivery of the frigate marked a new development in improving the combative strength as well as the capability of managing and defending the countrys sea sovereignty, the paper quoted navy commander Nguyen Van Hien as saying.

Vietnam took the delivery of the first warship of this kind in March.

The Southeast Asian nation has also ordered to buy six diesel-electric Project 636 Varshavyanka submarines for a total of $2 billion. The submarines are also known by their NATO nickname, Kilos. The delivery of the first submarine was expected in three years.

Vietnams naval build-up comes at a time when tensions between Vietnam and China flare over disputed islands in the South China Sea.

Relations between the two communist neighbors hit a low-point this summer after Hanoi accused Beijing of interfering with its oil exploration activities.

The two sides, along with several other Asian nations, claim all or part of two disputed island chains believed to be rich in natural resources in an area thats home to vital shipping lanes.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wo ... QAiB6jXJ_story.html
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Post time 24-8-2011 01:51 PM | Show all posts
Taiwan to develop precision-guided missile
       
          Taiwan soldiers check a locally-made Tien-Chien missile during an annual drill at the Chiang Chin-kuo air force base in central Taichung
         


TAIPEI - Taiwan plans to develop a long-distance precision-guided missile which would be able to strike military bases along China's southeastern coastline in the event of war, a legislator said Monday.

Taiwan's defence ministry has budgeted Tw$30 million ($1.04 million) for developments including the design of the missile bases and safety systems, said Lin Yu-fang, a lawmaker who sits on the national defence committee.

But Lin, of the ruling Kuomintang party, said there were still only a few details available on the new weapon.

Taiwan's defence ministry declined to comment on his remarks.

Lin said the missile, along with several other home-made weapons systems such as the Hsiungfeng (Brave Wind) 2E cruise missile, would be used as an effective deterrent should China launch military action against the island.

"In case of war, Taiwan would be able to use the weapon to strike the air-defence and ballistic missile bases deployed along China's southeastern coastline," he said.

"This could be done without sending jet fighters near the mainland targets, and avoid risking the pilots' lives."

Tensions between Taipei and Beijing have eased markedly since Ma Ying-jeou of the China-friendly Kuomintang party came to power in 2008 on a platform of beefing up trade links and allowing in more Chinese tourists.

But Beijing still refuses to renounce the possible use of force against Taiwan even though the island has ruled itself since the end of a civil war in 1949.

And the continued uncertainty has prompted Taiwan to seek more advanced weaponry.

In its national defence report released in July, published every other year, Taiwan's defence ministry noted mounting endeavours by China to boost its already impressive military capabilities.

- AFP /ls
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Post time 24-8-2011 05:50 PM | Show all posts
fuh mmg ada gaya mcm nak WW3 China byk sgt musuh .. sikap bongkak dan ego mmg akan memakan diri china ni kalau perang meletus...
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Post time 25-8-2011 12:04 PM | Show all posts
ASEAN sepatutnya boleh menubuhkan pakatan tentera negara asean utk berhadapan dengan ketamakan negara negara besar. mungkin negara asean banyak isu sempadan dan dalamannya sendiri tetapi dengan kesatuan boleh menjamin keselamatan negara negara asean.
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Post time 5-9-2011 05:06 PM | Show all posts
Reply 87# tempur


Gd idea. Tapi asean bukan maern europe. too much mistrust. So u see balance of power politics.
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Post time 8-9-2011 06:51 PM | Show all posts
There are no visible military alliances or NATO-like establishment in ASEAN, apart from previous involvement of UN-sanctioned UN Peacekeeping forces in Cambodia & East Timor.

Apart from US alliance with South Vietnam in 1960s to stem the tide of Cold War Marxist march in North Vietnam, its just leaves the military pact between Malaysia / Singapore / Australia / UK / New Zealand in form of FPDA.

US can't really contained PRC in South East Asia. Vietnam is a natural enemy to PRC, thus it will fend for itself against PRC aggression like previous Sino-Viet war & Sino-Viet naval clashes at Spratleys.

Only FPDA has what it takes to contain PRC aggression if OR should the Big Red Dragon breathes its flame of war in the region.
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 Author| Post time 1-10-2011 04:47 PM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by wartakita at 1-10-2011 16:49

CHINA DECLARES WAR TO VIETNAM AND PHILIPPINES
By Miles Yu - The Washington Times

Wednesday, September 28, 2011
The lead article the Chinese Communist Party newspaper Global Times on Tuesday contained an alarming call for a declaration of war against Vietnam and Philippines, two nations that in recent weeks launched the loudest protests against Chinas sweeping maritime sovereignty claims over the South China Sea.

Headlined The Time to Use Force Has Arrived in the South China Sea; Lets Wage Wars on the Philippines and Vietnam to Prevent More Wars, the article was written by Long Tao, a likely pseudonym literally translated as The Dragons Teaching. The name refers to the third chapter of the famous Chinese ancient military classic Six Secret Military Teachings that, among other things, promotes the idea that the best way to establish military awesomeness is to kill the highest-ranked dissenters.

Vietnam is viewed by China as the most militarily capable state whose government is the most politically uncompromising when it comes to challenging Chinas territorial claims in the South China Sea.

The Philippines recently riled China greatly for its closeness to Japan, and its cantankerous and successful move last week to hold talks within the Association of Southeast Asian Nations, without inviting China, on cooperating and clarifying consensual and disputed claims in the South China Sea.

The fiery rhetoric of the article states that the South China Sea is the best place for China to wage wars because of the more than 1,000 oil rigs there, none belongs to China; of the four airfields in the Spratly Islands, none belongs to China; once a war is declared, the South China Sea will be a sea of fire [with burning oil rigs]. Who will suffer the most from a war? Once a war starts there, the Western oil companies will flee the area, who will suffer the most?

The article further calculates that the wars should be focused on striking the Philippines and Vietnam, the two noisiest troublemakers, to achieve the effect of killing one chicken to scare the monkeys.

What about possible U.S. intervention once China starts a war in the South China Sea? No worry, the article states, because the U.S. will be utterly unable to open a second front in the South China Sea to fight China because it is deeply mired in the anti-terror wars of the Middle East.

The Global Times is Chinas largest paper focusing on international news under direct sponsorship from the Communist Party central authority.
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Post time 1-10-2011 09:05 PM | Show all posts
ok, do you think US will just sit there and watch China aggression? never....they have to keep the China power balanced. South China Sea is an important shipping line and has proven oil reserve. This issue will not cause a war. China will not risk to severe her ties with the US, a major trading partner. Furthermore, there are too many countries against China..Vietnam and Indonesia known for their experience in guerrilla warfare, the Philippines, Brunei and Malaysia.
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Post time 2-10-2011 12:19 AM | Show all posts
US is China's slave. They won't lift a finger for SEA. Fact.
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Post time 4-10-2011 07:30 PM | Show all posts
US is China's slave. They won't lift a finger for SEA. Fact.


US will only be bitchin' & gunnin' when Taiwan become China's missile target practice or suddenly North Koreans zombies streaming through DMZ to swamp Seoul.

I can only see Ozzies (aka Sheriff Down Under) trying becoming hero once PRC whacked Pinoy & Viets plus exerted control over Spratley or South China Seas. Of course, if Malaysia got dragged into the shooting war, it is ample time Ozzie via FPDA alliance & support from UK joining the fray.
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Post time 18-4-2012 12:48 PM | Show all posts

china and pinoy dispute

Pinoy navy, 'decides' to reduce the tension with  china, by withdrawing their newest naval vessel, the one donated by the us coast guard, and instead putting their coast guard vessel, to monitor the disputed lagoon. The sad thing is, the chinese vessels, are able to leave the disputed area with all the marine catch they have acquired.score 1  china, pinoy 0.
kalau kita look at the whole issue dari sudut neutral, nampak sangat, pinoy nak selamatkan maruah navy mereka dari di malukan dgn mengundurkan navy mereka, sebelum naval vessels  dari china sempat sampai ke tempat yg di pertikaikan. Sebab setakat ni, hanya kapal dari jabatan perikanan china je yg ada kat situ... itu pun pinoy x sanggup bertindak.

Insiden ini sepatutnya membuka mata our political masters utk mempercepatkan acquisition of our more powerful naval vessels for tldm.
Dan diharapkan pihak pembangkang janganlah di pertikaikan pembelian peralatan utk menggantikan asset tldm yg diberikan pada maritim malaysia. Kalau nak pertikaikan ialah melalui closed doors dgn pihak mindef, ialah ketelusan pembelian, Not the pembelian itself kalau itu yg an di minta oleh tldm.
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Post time 18-4-2012 03:16 PM | Show all posts
Pinoy navy, 'decides' to reduce the tension with  china, by withdrawing their newest naval vessel, t ...
sol Post at 18-4-2012 12:48


Masih ada waktu sampai 2020, navy china akan emcapai puncaknya pada saat itu, pabila china sudah merasa sangat kuat, bila peran kita hanya sanggup bertahan tanpa mampu membalas
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Post time 19-4-2012 10:28 AM | Show all posts
Pinoy navy, 'decides' to reduce the tension with  china, by withdrawing their newest naval vessel, t ...
sol Post at 18-4-2012 12:48


tindakkan Malaysia menghalau kapal2 perikanan china dulu di Spratly sangat dipuji.....takut juga China ngan kita...tapi kesian pinoy..china buat pekak saja...
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Post time 19-4-2012 11:48 AM | Show all posts
tindakkan Malaysia menghalau kapal2 perikanan china dulu di Spratly sangat dipuji.....takut jug ...
gede-bab Post at 19-4-2012 10:28


Cape deh... china takut sama malaysia
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Post time 19-4-2012 11:53 AM | Show all posts
Seluruh asean pun tak mampu lawan china
Kau buat dulu banyak2 destroy, kapal selam, missile jarak jauh, kau beli F-35 100 Buah atau buat peesawat yg lebih hebat dari J-20 baru di orang mimpi china takut
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Post time 19-4-2012 12:27 PM | Show all posts
Cape deh... china takut sama malaysia
viewx Post at 19-4-2012 11:48



   Mungkin depa lebih menghormati Malaysia. Namun percayalah, dalam masa 15 tahun dari sekarang, kuasa ketenteraan China akan menyamai ataupun lebih hebat berbanding Amerika Syarikat. Adakah pada waktu itu China akan mengambil-alih peranan AS sebagai polis dunia? Adakah China akan menyerang negara-negara lain sesuka hati macam AS buat sekarang? Adakah China musuh ataupun kawan? Cuma masa akan beritahu...
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Post time 19-4-2012 04:52 PM | Show all posts
Mungkin depa lebih menghormati Malaysia. Namun percayalah, dalam masa 15 tahun dari sekaran ...
spiderman80 Post at 19-4-2012 12:27


Saya rasa gitu bro, sdh jelas CLS akan direbut china, hutang amerika serikat sekarang pun sdh banyak pada china
saya harap negara2 asean membangun sistem pertahanannya sendiri mulai sekarang, jng terus membeli dari negara lain
saya rasa sampai 10-15 tahun kedepan akan maju dan mampu membuat missile dll..
untuk saat ini negara asean jg mimpi mau lawan china, kira2 gitu deh pesan saya
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