ASWJ dan Syiah (bukan ASWJ vs Syiah)

Laxamana.

Originally posted by amorist at 2003-7-22 10:41 PM:
Jika Imam Malik dan Imam Abu Hanifa boleh berguru dengan Imam Jaafar Sadiq (seorang imam Syiah), mengapa hari ini ASWJ dan Syiah tak boleh sepakat?

Imam Jaafar Sadiq dikatakan telah berkata lebi ...

to ione2bliv... I am not defending my ego... don't assume things up. It is clear that I am not discussing about myself but regarding the issues as depicted. You are not contributing to the discussions is not of my concern, but your 'smart talking' is not much of a help as well. To  Amorist, what make you use those narrations? What is the source of your narrations that you claimed as being originated from Imam Ja'afar. You must consider the authentical factors as well... I am sure that you can bring in the proofs, even though it seems to be very unrealistic or baseless... except for ASWJ porposes only.

amorist

Lax,

I don't see why it should benefit ASWJ. It says that Imam Malik studied under him. How does that benefit ASWJ?

And don't forget that his mother was a descendent of Abu Bakar! This, and the fact that Malik studied under him, shows that during his time, the people did not differentiate between ASWJ and Syiah. They were united under Islam.

I got that text from a website. That's why I wrote: "dilaporkan pernah berkata" because I cannot confirm it yet.

[ Last edited by amorist on 23-7-2003 at 02:23 PM ]

Originally posted by Laxamana. at 23-7-2003 08:28 AM:
to ione2bliv...  but your 'smart talking' is not much of a help as well.   

Salam Lax,

You are right indeed.

It is not much help, because what I wrote not to yor liking and interest. harmony and love is not part of your islam defination as long as the party is not in line with your "truth".

Peace

Originally posted by Laxamana. at 2003-7-23 08:28 AM:
to ione2bliv... I am not defending my ego... don't assume things up. It is clear that I am not discussing about myself but regarding the issues as depicted. You are not contrib ...

Lax,

You said that you are looking for truth and not siding any group. However the more I read your posting I become confuse  as I  observe you like to attack/accuse ASWJ and defending Syiah.

One of the difference in the two believes are :-

Syiah   : Memurtadkan few shahabats
ASWJ  : Menyanjung Ahlul bait dan juga sahabats Rasulullah S.A.W yang SYIAH percaya telah murtad kerana tidak menghormati Saiyidina Ali dan keluarga.

Hmmm saya rasa dalam konteks nie ASWJ lebih penyayang dari fahaman Syiah.:bg:

Laxamana.

Originally posted by ione2bliv at 2003-7-23 01:37 PM:
Salam Lax,

You are right indeed.

It is not much help, because what I wrote not to yor liking and interest. harmony and love is not part of your islam defination as long as the party is not i ...

I don't know what are you talking about here.... never mind, avoid the headache... :2cool:

Laxamana.

Originally posted by Gapodio at 2003-7-23 03:44 PM:
Lax,

You said that you are looking for truth and not siding any group. However the more I read your posting I become confuse  as I  observe you like to attack/accuse ASWJ and defending Syiah.

...

Saya bermula sebagai ASWJ, namun kecenderungan kalian mempertahankan sesuatu yang salah walaupun dibuktikan dengan hujah-hujah sahih telah membuatkan saya lebih nampak bahawa Syi'ah lebih ikhlas dan wajar hujah yang bersandarkan kekuatan fakta disokong... kecuali dibuktikan sebalik nya.

Originally posted by Laxamana. at 23-707-2003 19:05:
Saya bermula sebagai ASWJ, namun kecenderungan kalian mempertahankan sesuatu yang salah walaupun dibuktikan dengan hujah-hujah sahih telah membuatkan saya lebih nampak bahawa Syi'ah lebih ikhlas da ...

Mengapa perlu ada ASWJ atau SYIAH atau WAHABI atau AHMADIAH dan SUFI?

Kenapa kita tidak mengamalkan Islam yang SEBENAR, saperti yang diajar olih Nabi Muhammad SAW?

Originally posted by Mat Kampong at 2003-7-24 01:22 PM:
Mengapa perlu ada ASWJ atau SYIAH atau WAHABI atau AHMADIAH dan SUFI?

Kenapa kita tidak mengamalkan Islam yang SEBENAR, saperti yang diajar olih Nabi Muhammad SAW?[/c ...

Saranan yang cukup bagus dari MK.

Sepertimana yang saya katakan. As long as pegangan kita berasaskan dalil dan nas yang kukuh, insyaallah kita semua di jalan yang benar. Allah

Mengikut fahamahn saya. kita mengikuti fahamah ASWJ (Imam Syafie, Maliki, Hambali ..... Wahabi ...) dan Syiah adalah utk memudahkan orang Islam memahami Islam tanpa perlu mengkaji hadith2 dan Quran lagi.  kalau kita mempunyai Ilmu dan berupaya mentafsir sendiri Quran/Hadith kita tak perlu mengikuti any of those groups and have our own interpretation. Isn't it?.

Tapi kalau kita rasakan tafsiran orang lain kurang tepat, bahaslah secara ilmiah dan sama-sama kita respect each other. :bg:

amorist

Originally posted by Gapodio at 2003-7-24 02:29 PM:
Saranan yang cukup bagus dari MK.

Sepertimana yang saya katakan. As long as pegangan kita berasaskan dalil dan nas yang kukuh, insyaallah kita semua di jalan yang benar. Allah

.... kalau kita rasakan tafsiran orang lain kurang tepat, bahaslah secara ilmiah dan sama-sama kita respect each other....

Inilah cara yang baik.

Kita berbahas untuk mencari kebenaran. Tetapi, untuk mencari kebenaran, kita perlu mempunyai hati dan fikiran terbuka. Kita perlu dapat memikirkan, dan menerima pandangan orang lain apabila ianya betul.

Tapi, yang banyak saya nampak, kejujuran ini tak ada. Ramai yang berbahas bukan untuk mencari kebenaran tetapi untuk membuktikan kepada orang lain bahawa "aku betul, engkau salah". Tidak ada fikiran terbuka. Tidak ada keinginan untuk menilai secara rasional apa yang diutarakan oleh orang lain. Dalam hati cuma fikir "aku nak menang"! Pemikiran beginilah yang mewujudkan puak dalam Islam... dan Quran melarang kita berpuak-puak!

antiQue

Kita hidup di dalam dunia ni tak lama.. dan matlamat hidup kita adalah agar kita diterima oleh Allah diakhirat kelak. Jadi gunakanlah waktu singkat yang kita miliki untuk menilai pegangan kita sendiri, adakah kita telah menepati saranan Qur'an dan Rasul Allah.

Tidak ada gunanya kita bertekak mencari kesalahan sahabat kita atau umat Islam lainnya, sebagai manusia biasa memang tidak lari dari khilaf pendapat. Tetapi apa yang pasti kita tetap umat Islam yang berakar umbi dari Islam yang dibawa oleh Rasulullah.. jadi sekiranya di zaman Rasulullah Islam itu hanya "Islam", maka di zaman ini pun Islam itu hanyalah "Islam".. bukan islam cap ASWJ, Islam cap Wahabi, Islam cap Syiah etc. Islam itu tunduk dan patuh...

Setiap mazhab hanya merupakan search engine di dalam lautan ilmu fiqh..

Originally posted by antiQue at 24-707-2003 17:09:
Kita hidup di dalam dunia ni tak lama.. dan matlamat hidup kita adalah agar kita diterima oleh Allah diakhirat kelak. Jadi gunakanlah waktu singkat yang kita miliki untuk menilai pegangan kita...

Setiap mazhab hanya merupakan search engine di dalam lautan ilmu fiqh..

Salam semua,

Untuk renungan bersama - Setelah mencerminkan diri sendiri barulah kita dapat mencerminkan diri insan lain dengan sempurna...

Quran 6 (Al-An抋am):159
[159] Bahawasanya orang-orang yang mencerai-beraikan agama mereka (dengan perselisihan-perselisihan yang berdasarkan hawa nafsu) dan mereka menjadi berpuak-puak, tiadalah engkau terkait sedikitpun dalam (perbuatan) mereka. Sesungguhnya perkara mereka hanya terserah kepada Allah. Kemudian Dia akan menerangkan kepada mereka (pada hari kiamat kelak), apa yang telah mereka lakukan (dan membalasnya).

Quran 22 (Al-Hajj):78
[78] Dan berjihadlah kamu pada jalan Allah dengan jihad yang sebenar-benarnya Dialah yang memilih kamu (untuk mengerjakan suruhan agamanya) dan Dia tidak menjadikan kamu menanggung sesuatu keberatan dan susah payah dalam perkara agama, agama bapa kamu Ibrahim. Dia menamakan kamu: Orang-orang Islam semenjak dahulu dan di dalam (Al-Quran) ini, supaya Rasulullah (Muhammad) menjadi saksi yang menerangkan kebenaran perbuatan kamu dan supaya kamu pula layak menjadi orang-orang yang memberi keterangan kepada umat manusia (tentang yang benar dan yang salah). Oleh itu, dirikanlah sembahyang dan berilah zakat, serta berpegang teguhlah kamu kepada Allah! Dialah Pelindung kamu. Maka (Allah yang demikian sifatNya) Dialah sahaja sebaik-baik Pelindung dan sebaik-baik Pemberi pertolongan.

Quran 30 (Ar-Ruum):31
[31] Hendaklah kamu (wahai Muhammad dan pengikut-pengikutmu) sentiasa rujuk kembali kepada Allah (dengan mengerjakan amal-amal bakti) serta bertakwalah kamu kepadaNya; dan kerjakanlah sembahyang dengan betul sempurna dan janganlah kamu menjadi dari mana-mana golongan orang musyrik.

Quran 10 (Yunus):93
[93] Dan sesungguhnya Kami telah menempatkan Bani Israil di negeri yang baik (sesudah Kami binasakan Firaun) dan Kami mengurniakan mereka dengan benda-benda yang baik. Maka mereka tidak berselisihan (mengenai Nabi Muhammad melainkan) setelah datang kepada mereka pengetahuan (dari bukti-bukti yang nyata). Sesungguhnya Tuhanmu akan menghukum di antara mereka pada hari kiamat tentang apa yang mereka perselisihkan itu.

Quran 3 (Aali Imran):103
[103] Dan berpegang teguhlah kamu sekalian kepada tali Allah (agama Islam) dan janganlah kamu bercerai-berai dan kenanglah nikmat Allah kepada kamu ketika kamu bermusuh-musuhan (semasa jahiliah dahulu), lalu Allah menyatukan di antara hati kamu (sehingga kamu bersatu-padu dengan nikmat Islam), maka menjadilah kamu dengan nikmat Allah itu orang-orang Islam yang bersaudara dan kamu dahulu telah berada di tepi jurang Neraka (disebabkan kekufuran kamu semasa jahiliah), lalu Allah selamatkan kamu dari Neraka itu (disebabkan nikmat Islam juga). Demikianlah Allah menjelaskan kepada kamu ayat-ayat keteranganNya, supaya kamu mendapat petunjuk hidayatNya

Quran 45 (Al-Jaathiyah):17
[17] Dan lagi Kami telah berikan mereka keterangan-keterangan yang jelas nyata mengenai perkara agama; maka mereka tidak berselisihan (dalam perkara agama itu) melainkan setelah sampai kepada mereka ajaran-ajaran yang memberi mereka mengetahui (apa yang baik dan yang sebaliknya; berlakunya yang demikian) kerana hasad dengki yang ada dalam kalangan mereka. Sesungguhnya Tuhanmu akan menghukum di antara mereka pada hari kiamat tentang apa yang mereka perselisihkan itu.

Quran 42 (Asy-Syuura):13-14
[13] Allah telah menerangkan kepada kamu di antara perkara-perkara agama yang Ia tetapkan hukumnya apa yang telah diperintahkanNya kepada Nabi Nuh dan yang telah Kami (Allah) wahyukan kepadamu (wahai Muhammad) dan juga yang telah Kami perintahkan kepada Nabi Ibrahim dan Nabi Musa serta Nabi Isa, iaitu: Tegakkanlah pendirian agama dan janganlah kamu berpecah belah atau berselisihan pada dasarnya. Berat bagi orang-orang musyrik (untuk menerima agama tauhid) yang engkau seru mereka kepadanya. Allah memilih serta melorongkan sesiapa yang dikehendakiNya untuk menerima agama tauhid itu dan memberi hidayat petunjuk kepada agamaNya itu sesiapa yang rujuk kembali kepadaNya (dengan taat).
[14] Dan umat tiap-tiap Rasul tidak berpecah belah dan berselisihan (dalam menjalankan agama Allah) melainkan setelah sampai kepada mereka ajaran-ajaran yang memberi mereka mengetahui (apa yang disuruh dan apa yang dilarang); berlakunya (perselisihan yang demikian) semata-mata kerana hasad dengki sesama sendiri dan kalaulah tidak kerana telah terdahulu kalimah ketetapan dari Tuhanmu (untuk menangguhkan hukuman) hingga ke suatu masa yang tertentu, tentulah dijatuhkan hukuman azab dengan serta-merta kepada mereka dan sesungguhnya orang-orang yang diberikan Allah mewarisi Kitab agama kemudian daripada mereka, berada dalam keadaan syak yang menggelisahkan terhadap Kitab itu.

billionaire

[quote]Jika Imam Malik dan Imam Abu Hanifa boleh berguru dengan Imam Jaafar Sadiq (seorang imam Syiah), mengapa hari ini ASWJ dan Syiah tak boleh sepakat?

Imam Jaafar Sadiq dikatakan telah berkata lebih kurang:

"If you see something you don't like in your brother try to find from one to seventy excuses for him. If you can't find an excuse, say, 'There might be an excuse but I don't know it.'"

"If you hear a word from a Muslim which is offensive, try to find a good meaning for it. If you don't find a good meaning for it, say to yourself, 'I do not understand what he said,' in order to keep harmony between Muslims."

Imam Jaafar Sadiq juga dilaporkan pernah berkata,

"The best intercession that I hope for is the intercession of Abu Bakr as-Siddiq ."

Dia juga dilaporkan pernah berkata: "O Allah, You are my Witness that I love Abu Bakr and I love 'Umar and if what I am saying is not true may Allah cut me off from the intercession of  Muhammad ."

[ Last edited by amorist on 23-7-2003 at 06:56 AM ]

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salam
amorist, mungkin boleh bawa rujukan utk hadis ini. Sekiranya inilah g tleh dinyatakan oleh Imam Jaafar Sadiq a.s, maka polemik syiah sunnah telah terhenti sekian lama. sekiranya  intercession abu bakar is the best intercession (wasilah) maka mengapa SAyyidatina Fathimah a.s menolak intercession itu? mungkin amorist terlupa utk mengutip riwayat2 lain dari para imam kami mengenaai Abu Bakar atau Umar.

billionaire

gapodio:
Lax,

You said that you are looking for truth and not siding any group. However the more I read your posting I become confuse  as I  observe you like to attack/accuse ASWJ and defending Syiah.

One of the difference in the two believes are :-

Syiah   : Memurtadkan few shahabats
ASWJ  : Menyanjung Ahlul bait dan juga sahabats Rasulullah S.A.W yang SYIAH percaya telah murtad kerana tidak menghormati Saiyidina Ali dan keluarga.

Hmmm saya rasa dalam konteks nie ASWJ lebih penyayang dari fahaman Syiah.

salam
mengapa diambil dari satu sudut sahaja? seolahnya agama Islam itu berkisar hanya disekitar sahabat sahaja. dan seolahnya anda sukar utk menerima hakikat bahawa sahabat tidak akan pernah melakukan kesalahan! MUngkin anda hendak membawakan bukti dari al-Quran mengenai itu. mengenai conclusion anda itu - bagaimana pula dengan yg ini?

ASWJ: menolak hadis sahih "Kitabullah dan Ahlul Baitku"
Syiah: menerima hadis sahih "Kitabullah dan Ahlul Baitku"

hmm saya rasa dalam konteks ini Syiah telah berpegang kepada perintah Allah dan RasulNya

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maaf bukan utk melanjutkan polemik dalam hal ini tetapi rasanya perlu utk menjawab ulasan yg tidak adil seperti ini.
wassalam.

The Qur'an should be the comprehensive reference for both Sunnis and Shi'ites, and a means of bringing about unity and mutual understanding, but it has been misinterpreted by the Shi'ites and given a meaning other than that which was understood by the noble Companions who received it directly from the Prophet, and other than that which was understood by the Imams of Islam who received it from the very generation amongst whom the Qur'an descended by way of Divine Revelation.
One of the most famous and respected Shi'ite scholars, from Najaf, Mirza Husain bin Muhammad Taqi An-Nawari At-Tabarsi, wrote in 1292 A.H. the book faslul-Khitaab fee Ithbatti Tahreefi Kitaab Rabbil-Arbaab (The Decisive Say on the Proof of Alteration of the Book of the Lord of Lords). In this book he compiled hundreds of texts written by Shi'ite scholars in different eras alleging that the Qur'an has been tampered with, that there have been both additions to it and omissions from it.

At-Tabarsi's book was printed in Iran, in 1298 A.H., and its appearance attracted much attention, frustrating the intention of certain Shi'ites that their doubts about the authenticity of the Qur'an should be restricted to the elite of religious scholars and personalities. They preferred that these allegations not be brought together in a single volume, and widely disseminated, as it could be used as a proof against them by their opponents. When the scholars made public their criticism, At-Tabarsi responded with another book entitled Raddu ba'dush-Shubahaati 'an Faslil-Khitaabi fee Ithbatti Tahreefi Kitaabi Rabbil-Arbaab (Refutation of Some Specious Arguments Regarding the Decisive Say on the Proof of Alteration of the Book of the Lord of the Lords). He wrote this defense of his original book two years before his death. In order to show their appreciation of his contribution to the attempt to prove that the Qur'an had been altered, the Shi'ites buried him in one of their most prominent religious shrines, at Najaf.

Among the proofs offered by At-Tabarsi in his attempt to show that the Qur'an had been altered, was a quotation from what the Shi'ites consider to be a missing part of the Qur'an, called by them Suratul-Wilaayah . It mentions the granting of wilaayah (sovereignty) to 'Ali as follows: "O believers, believe in the Prophet and the wali, the two whom We sent to guide you to the straight path..."

The Shi'ites accuse the Sunni Muslims of deleting it along with other surahs from the original text of the Holy Qur'an. It reads:
O' you who believe, believe in the prophet and the wali, the two whom we sent to guide you to the straight path. A prophet and wali who are of each other. and celebrate the praise of your Lord, and Ali is among the witnesses.

The fatwa (religious verdict) encouraging the Shi'ite masses to curse the two Caliphs Abu Bakar and 'Umar are signed by six of the contemporary Shi'ite scholars and clergy among them Khomeini and Shariat-adari .
..to be continued

Originally posted by Terong Pipit at 2003-7-28 09:04:
to be continued.....

The trustworthy scholar Muhammad 'Ali Sa'oodi, chief consultant to the Egyptian Ministry of Justice, and one of Sheikh Muhammad Abduh's special students, managed to examine an Iranian manuscript copy of the Qur'an owned by the orientalist Brown. He was able to make a photocopy of Surat-ul-Wilaayah with its Persian translation. Its existence was affirmed by At-Tabarsi in his book faslul-Khitaab, and by Muhsin Faani Al-ashmeeri in his book Dabisan Madhaahib. This book, written in Persian, was printed several times in Iran. The chapter (Surat-ul-Wilaayah) which is falsely attributed to Allah's revelation, was also quoted by the famous orientalist Noeldeke in his book History of the Copies of the Qur'an. It also appeared in the Asian-French Newspaper in 1842 C.E.

At-Tabarsi also quoted a tradition from Al-Kaafi, which is to the Shi'ites what Sahih-ul-Bukhari is to the Sunni Muslims. It reads:
A number of our associates narrated by way of Sahl bin Ziyaad through Muhammad bin Sulaiman that some of his friends reported Abul-Hasan Ath-Thaani 'Ali bin Mioosa Ar-Rida as saying 'May I be your ransom! We hear verses of the Qur'an different from those we have with us and we are not capable of reading them according to your reading which has reached us. Do we commit a sin thereby He replied, "No, read the Qur'an as you have learned it; someone will come to you to teach you.
Without a doubt, this conversation is fabricated by the Shi'ites and is falsely attributed to the Imam 'Ali bin Moosa Ar-Rida; however, the statement is taken by the Shi'ites as a legal ruling in this matter. Its implication is that while one of them commits no sin by reciting the Qur'an the way Muslims have learned according to 'Uthman's unanimously accepted text, the privileged class of Shi'ite clergy and scholars will teach each other a version other than the accepted one, a version which they claim came to their Imams from AhlulBait.
It was the urge to strike a comparison between the Shi'ite "Qur'an" (which they secretly confide to one another, while hiding it from the general public as an act of taqiyyah") and the known and officially accepted 'Uthmani Edition of the Qur'an, which motivated At-Tabarsi to write his book faslul-Khitaab. Although the Shi'ites pretended to disown At-Tabarsi's book, as an act of taqiyyah, the glaring fact that it-includes hundreds of quotations from the recognized works of their scholars clearly confirms their adherence to the tenet of alteration of the Qur'an. Of course, they do not want a clamor to be raised over this perverse article of faith of theirs.
The intended result of their claim is to leave us with the impression that there are two Qur'ans: one, the 'Uthmani version accepted by the Sunni Muslims; the other, the allegedly hidden version of the Shi'ites, part of which is Surat-ul-Wilaayah. They are well aware that they fabricated the statement they attributed to the Imam 'Ali bin Moosa Ar-Rida: "... read [the Qur'an] as you have learned it; someone will come to you to teach you." The Shi'ites also claim that a verse was deleted from the Qur'an from Surat-ul-lnshiraah. The alleged deletion is "and we made 'Ali your son-in-law." Have they no shame in making such an allegation, when it is a well-known fact that this particular surah was revealed in Mecca at a time when 'Ali was not yet the son-in-law of the Prophet, Allah's blessing and peace be upon him. His only son-in-law a that time was Al-'Ass Ibnur-Rabee'al-Ummawi. As for the fact that 'Ali was a son-in-law of the Prophet, it should be pointed out that Allah also made 'Uthman bin 'Affaan the son-in-law of the Prophet through his marriage to two of the Prophet's daughters. Upon the death of the second of 'Uthman's wives (the second of the two daughters), the Prophet said to him, "If we had a third one, we would have given her to you in marriage."
Another of the Shi'ite scholars, Abu Mansoor Ahmad bin 'Ali At- Tabarsi, in his book Al-lhtijaaj 'ala Ahlil-Lajaaj (Argumentation with the Contentious Folk) claimed that 'Ali said to one of the zanaadiqah 12, whose name At-Tabarsi neglected to mention, "As for your belligerent disagreement with me 13, it shows your feigned ignorance of Allah's statement, 'And if you fear that you will not deal justly with the orphans, then marry of the women who seem good to you..."' At- Tabarsi then went on to say, by way of explanation as to why this verse was quoted by 'Ali in his argumentation with his opponents:
Now doing justice to orphans does not resemble the marrying of women, and not all women are orphans; thus, this verse is an exam- ple of what I have presented earlier in the book Al-Ihtijaaj; regarding the deletion of parts of the Qur'an by the hypocrites', that deletion being between the statement about justice to orphans, and that which follows it, about the marrying of women. This deletion consists of addresses and stories, and amounts to more than a third of the Qur'an,

billionaire

terong pipit, bill akan bawakan dalil2 yg terdapat dalam kitab sahih anda sendiri mengenai adanya perubahan al-Quran. bill nda nahzalus telah lama menyudahkan masalah ini tetapi anda telah mengeluarkan kembali isu ini. Oleh itu harap anda akan menjawabnya kali ini. Tetapi tidak akan dilakukan dalam thread ini demi menghormati objektif thread ini dibuka. Sekiranya anda tidak dapat menjawabnya maka, ini akana membuktikan bahawa mazhab anda sendiri meyakini adanya perubahan al-Quran. Anda cuma perlu menjawab setuju saja, dan bill akan bawakannya kepada anda dalam thread ASWJ vs Syiah nanti.

DARSITA

kita terima Shiah seadanya. Kalau di dalam Suni kita ada Shafi, Hanafi, Malikis dan Habali kenapa kita tidak boleh masukkan Shiah dalam kumpulan ini? Kenapa 4 dan tidak 5? Adakah bila sudah menjadi lima kumpulan ini membawa kita kepada perpecahan di dalam Islam?

Darsita:- sekadar pendapat saya.

Salam

you believe in Syiah school of thought.
you have reasons and you can defend it.
why not. at the end of the day, God will judge you with all fairness.

you beleive in aswj school of thought.
you have reasons and you can defend it.
why not. at the end of the day, God will judge you with all fairness.

you do not beleive both of th above.
you have reasons and you can defend it.
why not. at the end of the day, God will judge you with all fairness.

the list goes on.

why are we accusing others are wrong and while we are right?
on the day of judgement, each of us are answerable to God.
keep looking and searching of the right path.

Follow the creed of Abraham.  (Quran 16:123 / 2:130).

Keep questioning what you see.

Observe. think.   Abraham did that.

May Allah bless us.

With love.



Peace

rantaikendoq

inilah masanya di mana para wahabi dan syiah tengah rancak menjadi hero
nak selesaikan segala masalah umat Islam di dunia
mereka tgh rancak skang di malaysia, dgn pelbagai kerusi dan kuasa di jabatan ...
hehee...

zek007

dari buahnya kamu akan mengenali mereka...(Aswj and syiah)...