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Bersedie dgn new wave global financial crisis!!

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Post time 6-8-2011 08:34 PM | Show all posts |Read mode
ikut analisa saye......kite maybe akn mengalami next wave of global financial crisis...since euro crisis dah menular +debt ceiling +recently US downgrade.....first downgrade in history.........ini akn menambahkan "risk aversion" dlm market yng buatkan saham merudum......so......sape yng main saham tu hati2 ye....hahahaha
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Post time 6-8-2011 09:45 PM | Show all posts
2008 dah jadi...skrg 2012... dgr citer krisis nih 4 tahun sekali..... kompeni saya dah merasa skrg...langkah awal sudah bermula utk menghadapi krisis 2012
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Post time 6-8-2011 09:52 PM | Show all posts
Reply 1# k4zi


   
menambahkan "risk aversion" dlm market yng buatkan saham merudum......so......sape yng main saham tu hati2 ye....


boleh elaborate risk aversion tu in layman's term tak? i kurang pengetahuan la tentang ekonomi, finance etc.when u say hati2 main saham tu maknanyanya its not good to invest now ke?

i baru jer di approach unit trust consultant. i pun tak tahu whether nak invest ke x
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Post time 6-8-2011 09:55 PM | Show all posts
Reply 2# nasha82


   
2008 dah jadi...skrg 2012... dgr citer krisis nih 4 tahun sekali..... kompeni saya dah merasa skrg...langkah awal sudah bermula utk menghadapi krisis 2012


kerap gak berlaku krisis ek? i tot once dalam 1 dekad ...eg in 1985, 1997, 2008 .....krisis kali ni agak2 akan jadi sekejap ke lama?
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 Author| Post time 7-8-2011 04:57 AM | Show all posts
Reply 2# nasha82

bkn 4 tahun skali..ussually 10years...but...in recent 2 years after 2008 there are alot of market turmoil like euro crisis....crisis in middle east and just now crisis US debt.....++++ US downgraded...thats why investor x convince dgn market....then this will push stocks around the world down....that will make financial institution trouble....hence akn berlaku financial crisis
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 Author| Post time 7-8-2011 05:00 AM | Show all posts
Reply 4# cn7

actually from my observation lps gawat akn berlaku recovery....tp dlm tempoh recovery lps 2008 bnyk bende yng kacau like euro crisis n US debt crisis....thats why yng da melewatkan mase untuk recovery...bak kate ahli2 economist...double dip recession...
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 Author| Post time 7-8-2011 05:12 AM | Show all posts
Reply 3# cn7

hahaha....sbenanye saye ni still balaja civil engineering kat uitm...tp da minat dgn ekonomi nak buat cmne..haha

Risk Averse
A risk-averse investor dislikes risk, and therefore will stay away from adding high-risk stocks or investments to their portfolio and in turn will often lose out on higher rates of return. Investors looking for "safer" investments will generally stick to index funds and government bonds, which generally have lower returns.

maknenye....pelabur takut hence dieorang akn jual saham...then...bile jual saham deorang akn beli bond daripade duit yng interest rate rendah mcm YEN n CHF......then thats why bile stocks tumble....harge bond naik....

buat mase skng us treasury bond paling slamat kat dunie(sume anggap US xkn bankrap)...tp since S&P dah mule downgrade US...rasenye harpaan dieong kat US dah semakain kurang..
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Post time 7-8-2011 02:57 PM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by pengecatbintang at 7-8-2011 15:01
2008 dah jadi...skrg 2012... dgr citer krisis nih 4 tahun sekali..... kompeni saya dah merasa skrg.. ...
nasha82 Post at 6-8-2011 21:45


pada pendapat saya... krisis yg berlaku skrg lanjutan krisis 2008...

sejak 2009... depa lambakkan liquidity (duit) utk delaykan recession...

akibatnya US eksport inflation ke seluruh dunia... satu dunia rasanya alami hyperinflation la ni...

x lama lagi.. Stagflation... Greater Depression (vs Great Depression 1930s)

makin lama delay makin teruk recession yg akan berlaku...

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btw.. bole tau company yg u keje sektor apa?

apa langkah yg company U dah ambil? share ler...

saya keje dlm sektor commodity production... we are producing tangible product

setakat ni ramai org Mesia n ramai kat my company yg x aware ttg potential crisis ni..

sejak 2006 dah berbuih mulut saya cakap pasal potential greater depression ni... supaya member2 ambil langkah2 yg sepatutnya..

but my dire warning fell on deaf ears..

ha ha ha..
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Post time 7-8-2011 03:10 PM | Show all posts
Reply 8# pengecatbintang

ka-ching..
tu la pasal, aku pun perasan, orang2 di malaysia ni mcm takde perasaan ape2 la pasal krisis yg bakal melanda..tak tau la sbb mmg tk tau ape yg berlaku, tak faham akan yg sedang berlaku atau mmg buat2 tatau  .
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Post time 7-8-2011 03:19 PM | Show all posts
self-denying la...takut nak fikir yg negatif...
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Post time 7-8-2011 03:21 PM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by pengecatbintang at 7-8-2011 15:23
Reply  pengecatbintang

ka-ching..
tu la pasal, aku pun perasan, orang2 di malaysia n ...
arwien Post at 7-8-2011 15:10


tak tau ler naper sebabnya depa ni x sedar ttg potential crisis ni...

utk hadapi krisis ni... bagi aku... kita kena..

debt free... commitment cost minima...  idup simple... simpan fizikal gold n silver...

aku terbaca kat internet... Arab Saudi negara last kat Middle East yg akan berlaku krisis... peh tu Euro akan collapse dulu...

bila Euro collapse jer... ada masa 2 ke 3 minggu utk kuar dr paper asset spt stock, (termasuk USD)...

peh tu US Dollar collapse..

krn USD ni centre of Global Monetary (refer Bretton Wood Agreement) ... lain2 wang fiat akan collapse jugak..

sblm duit Mesia collapse jugak... guna cash yg ada utk beli makanan...

itu ler gunanya duit aka gold n silver n cash... nak beli makanan utk idup..

cari kat youtube film Rollover 1981..

pendapat aku jer..
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Post time 7-8-2011 03:33 PM | Show all posts
pendapat aku pun sama.. langkah yg paling simple. minimumkan debt/liability..maximumkan saving/asset.  
ini tidak, ade duit lebih skit, upgrade kete mahal, shopping barang2 yg tak perlu yg tiada return value.  nak enjoy tu bole la, tp tengok pada keperluan & kewangan.
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Post time 7-8-2011 03:42 PM | Show all posts
pendapat aku pun sama.. langkah yg paling simple. minimumkan debt/liability..maximumkan saving/asset ...
arwien Post at 7-8-2011 15:33


aku masih pakai kete proton iswara tahun 2000... dah abis bayo sejak Jun 2006...

bahagianya idup debt free... umah lum beli.. sewa jer... nak tunggu gold n silver price skyrocket... bila property burst...

beli banglo satu kat KL ni murah2... angan2 jer tu.. ha ha...
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Post time 7-8-2011 03:44 PM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by pengecatbintang at 7-8-2011 15:46
self-denying la...takut nak fikir yg negatif...
razhar Post at 7-8-2011 15:19


"We learn from history that we do not learn from history"
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel



ni plak versi hasil plagiat aku...

"We learn from history that THEY do not learn from history"

- pengecatbintang

he he
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Post time 7-8-2011 03:49 PM | Show all posts
pendapat aku pun sama.. langkah yg paling simple. minimumkan debt/liability..maximumkan saving/asset ...
arwien Post at 7-8-2011 15:33


“What the Wise Man Does at the Beginning, Fools Do in the End”
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Post time 7-8-2011 03:50 PM | Show all posts
self-denying la...takut nak fikir yg negatif...
razhar Post at 7-8-2011 15:19


Please remember the first rule of panic: If you are going to panic, do so before everyone else does.

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Post time 7-8-2011 04:28 PM | Show all posts
Aku punyer pendapat lak.......wat hutang (personal loan misal katakan) semaksima yang mungkin dan loan tersebut beli physical gold and silver. Gold (seeloknya kijang emas dan dinar kelantan) simpan di pajak gadai dapat pinjaman dan beli lagi gold.
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Post time 7-8-2011 04:28 PM | Show all posts
bkn 4 tahun skali..ussually 10years...but...in recent 2 years after 2008 there are alot of market turmoil like euro crisis....crisis in middle east and just
Reply 5# k4zi

thats what i thought also, 10 years once...
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Post time 7-8-2011 04:30 PM | Show all posts
.that will make financial institution trouble....hence akn berlaku financial crisis
Reply 5# k4zi


    you anticipate the crisis will be worse than 1998 ker? how bad will Malaysia be affected by this?

you ada mention in your 1st post sapa yang main saham kena hati2, so does that mean its time to switch your aggressive funds to money market or bond is it?
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Post time 7-8-2011 04:32 PM | Show all posts
bak kate ahli2 economist...double dip recession...
Reply 6# k4zi


    double dip recession means? the word is too jargon for me la, but i'm guessing that ....if its double dip... then it will take twice the time to recover from the recession? or the impact of the recession is twice the usual recession?
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