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Bersedie dgn new wave global financial crisis!!

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Author: k4zi       Show all posts   Read mode

Post time 7-8-2011 04:34 PM | Show all posts
sbenanye saye ni still balaja civil engineering kat uitm...tp da minat dgn ekonomi nak buat cmne..haha
Reply 7# k4zi


    laa...budak engine ker? mati2 i ingat at least u have a CFP cert, sebab cara u cakap macam economist pun ada... but what the heck kan, kalau ada minat yang mendalam, and willing to take note, boleh ajer master, although economy is not my cup of tea, i'm beginning to put some interest in it.

if i work hard, i want my money to work harder. tu jer.
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Post time 7-8-2011 04:37 PM | Show all posts
ebt free... commitment cost minima...  idup simple... simpan fizikal gold n silver...
Reply 11# pengecatbintang


    debt free.... belum lagi... my house mortgage ada banyak tahun lagi... commitment minima... pun tidak....banyak commitment jugak... gold & silver...seurat dua gold ada la, silver pun takder...

adeh, i hope the recession will be 'gentle' on me
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Post time 7-8-2011 04:40 PM | Show all posts
de duit lebih skit, upgrade kete mahal, shopping barang2 yg tak perlu yg tiada return value.  nak enjoy tu bole la, tp tengok pada keperlu
Reply 12# arwien


    baru nak berkira-kira beli kereta bar. not because ada duit lebih sikit, but sebab the car has been dying on me quite a number of time... nasib baik my house near the work place, so i can still get a lift from other colleagues... i'll just KIV for the time been until i'm for sure, sure how bad this thing will go on...
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Post time 7-8-2011 04:44 PM | Show all posts
Reply  k4zi


    you anticipate the crisis will be worse than 1998 ker? how bad will Malaysia b ...
cn7 Post at 7-8-2011 16:30



    worst than what ya' can ever imagine.......cause this time it involve the most fundamental aspect. PRINTING MONEY OF OF THIN AIR. Krisis yang berlaku ini adalah lanjutan dari subprime mortgage crisis 2008 dan tidak sama dengan krisis ekonomi 1985, 1997 yang kononnya berlaku setiap 10 tahun.

Yang berlaku dengan selang 10 tahun adalah apabila the demand and supply curve is correcting it self at optimum curve between the demand and supply and benefit both. Maksudnya cenggini :

Katakan di Malaysia ni semua rakyat Malaysia cuma pakai baju dan stokin tapi tak pakai seluar dan tak pakai kasut. One day, a wise man bukak satu factory untuk supply kasut pada rakyat Malaysia. ia mendapat sambutan kerna market dimonopoli oleh pioneeer menyebabkan produknya dijual dengan harga tinggi. Ini menarik lebih ramai orang untuk buka lebih banyak factory supply kasut .....this time ramai orang dapat peluang keje, dapat bonus dan pengangguran rendah..

Sampai ke satu tahap terlalu banyak factory supply kasut menyebabkan supply over demand. Lalu kasut yang disupply terpaksa dijual rendah daripada harga kos menyebabkan kerugian kepada supplier. Jadi, factory-2 kasut terpaksa turunkan production dan retrenched orang.Waktu ini, kemelesetan ekonomi....ramai orang kener buang dan pengangguran meningkat.

Tak lama selepas tu, another wise man suddenly notice one thing....semua rakyat Malaysia pakai baju, pakai stokin dan kasut tapi tak pakai seluar. So one day, a wise man bukak satu factory untuk supply seluar.....and the story goes in a cycle every 10 years in aveage.


BUT THIS TIME, THINGS ARE DIFFERENT.....THIS TYPE OF CRISIS IN THE COMIN IS SOMETHING NEVER WRITTEN IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND

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Post time 7-8-2011 04:48 PM | Show all posts
.wat hutang (personal loan misal katakan) semaksima yang mungkin dan loan tersebut beli physical gold and silver. Gold (seeloknya kijang emas dan dinar kelantan) simpan di pajak gadai dapat pinjaman dan beli lagi gold
Reply 17# tarabas1976


    memang lebih profit ker? how come what i heard is, they say not advisable to make loan to invest. sebab banyak risk. dengan OPR/BLR tak menentu, then your untung bersih kena ambil kira tolak interest bank & inflasi... sebab... i read somewhere...kalau those yang amik loan untuk ASB :

interest bank : 4-5 % (ni bank macam bank rakyat or BSN)

dividend ASB : 8%

untung : 8-4% = 4%

but ada yang kata actually tak untung sebab tak tolak inflasi 4.5%...so actually the money is shrinking ..the value of the money la...

if invest dalam emas/silver, whats the profit like? more than 10% ker?
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Post time 7-8-2011 04:50 PM | Show all posts
THIS TYPE OF CRISIS IN THE COMIN IS SOMETHING NEVER WRITTEN IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND
Reply 24# tarabas1976

how is this time different? scary la bila baca sentences u ni...

elaborate la kat i yang baru nak belajar hal-hal kewangan ni
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Post time 7-8-2011 04:53 PM | Show all posts
Reply 25# cn7


    First thing ya' need to change how ya' think about "what money is?".  To answer the question bolded in red, ya' have to find an information on what is the price of gold in 1971, in 2008 (QE2) and in this year 2011.

Ya' find that information and put it here, I promise I'll explain in the most simple term that ya' can understand why it is vital to sustain ya' wealth by keeping gold/silver instead of fiat money.
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Post time 7-8-2011 05:00 PM | Show all posts
Reply 26# cn7


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVkFb26u9g8



Kepada cn7, cuber tonton video nih dari part 1 sampai part 5.Take your time to digest. Tak faham boleh tanya, kita berbincang sambil berkongsi ilmu.
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Post time 7-8-2011 05:06 PM | Show all posts
To answer the question bolded in red, ya' have to find an information on what is the price of gold in 1971, in 2008 (QE2) and in this year 2011.
Reply 27# tarabas1976

ok.. my google research brought me to this link :

http://www.nma.org/pdf/gold/his_gold_prices.pdf

so to answer you : 1971 price was US40.62 (ni dalam per troy ounce, if dalam gram berapa?)

2008 : 871.96 (wowww!)

2011 : tak der dalam info tu...

so if 2008 - 1971 = 37 years....

US 871.96 - 40.62 = US 831 (lebih kurang la)

then divide by 37 years : lebih kurang 22% ....wowww

banyak....

yang personal loan tu pulak, in the end berapa is the clean profit yang dapat?
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Post time 7-8-2011 05:08 PM | Show all posts
2011 harganya USD 1620 perounce. And still going up.
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Post time 7-8-2011 05:09 PM | Show all posts
epada cn7, cuber tonton video nih dari part 1 sampai part 5.Take your time to digest. Tak faham boleh tanya, kita berbincan
Reply 28# tarabas1976


    ok thank you...tengah download...

are you a person with a background in finance? so far bila dah u start invest dalam gold?
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Post time 7-8-2011 05:10 PM | Show all posts
mak aiiii banyaknya

how do i start with gold ni? dah ada thread pasal gold ker?
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Post time 7-8-2011 05:10 PM | Show all posts
Kenapa pada 2008 harganya USD 800+ dan pada 2011 harganya dari USD 1000 (sebelum November 2010) terus melonjak sehingga USD 1600+ pada 2011? Kalo leh jawab nih saya bagi tacang
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Post time 7-8-2011 05:16 PM | Show all posts
Kalo leh jawab nih saya bagi tacang
Reply 33# tarabas1976


    you siapa nak bagi tacang? mod ajer yang boleh bagi tacang la....

anyway, if nak share, just share. i am here to learn on the things i dont know, not for someone else to show off how knowledgeble they are.

that i can get from other forums!
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Post time 7-8-2011 05:29 PM | Show all posts
Reply 34# cn7


    Wow!Very humble in knowledge discussion. Bagi tacang is a joke, many forumer use the same joke. About sharing, I purposely do it this way bacause Im very sure you are not a kindergarten kid whom need to be spoon fed. In most of tertiary education, we find answer to question and then we discuss to look at the question and answers from bird view. If ya' manage to find information from other forums, make sure that ya' don't go to Jim Sinclair Mindset or Harry Scultz with this type of learning mentality.Cause I'm afraid they might look down on Malaysian way of learning at tertiary level. Adios.
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Post time 7-8-2011 05:43 PM | Show all posts
Reply  cn7


    First thing ya' need to change how ya' think about "what money is?".  To answer ...
tarabas1976 Post at 7-8-2011 16:53


Agreed
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Post time 7-8-2011 05:44 PM | Show all posts
Reply 35# tarabas1976


   
Bagi tacang is a joke, many forumer use the same joke. About sharing, I purposely do it this way bacause Im very sure you are not a kindergarten kid whom need to be spoon fed. In most of tertiary education, we find answer to question and then we discu


well ,im not sure if the tacang statement is a joke for the BOD ekonomi & bursa saham, but i can atest that it is not a joke in other BOD that i've been. I am new in this economy BOD, although not new to CARI forum, so maybe...maybe it is your joke that i dont get. besides, i dont see anything funny with the statement. do you?

i get the point of not spoon feeding, i dont spoon fed my students too, but if you reread your statement, theres nothing humble about it as well. maybe i misinterpret, who knows la kan...

but as i said, if you feel like sharing, then just share. like when you posted earlier on the price of gold, i did my short research. A simple answer can lead to many other questions, as what the TT did, then it brought me to many other questions.
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Post time 7-8-2011 05:46 PM | Show all posts
Reply  tarabas1976


    you siapa nak bagi tacang? mod ajer yang boleh bagi tacang la....

an ...
cn7 Post at 7-8-2011 17:16


relax... relax... jangan mare abe tarabas tu... dia joke jer tu..
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Post time 7-8-2011 05:53 PM | Show all posts
Reply  tarabas1976

how is this time different? scary la bila baca sentences u ni...

elaborat ...
cn7 Post at 7-8-2011 16:50



In a speech in Cape Town, South Africa, on 7 June, 1966, Robert F Kennedy said:
There is a Chinese curse which says, 'May he live in interesting times'. Like it or not, we live in interesting times...
   
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Post time 7-8-2011 05:53 PM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by tarabas1976 at 7-8-2011 18:04

Reply 37# cn7


    Okey lets get back to the track Miss Super Sensitive. In 2008, the US Government carries out Quantitaive Easing, which is : The states Government borrowes USD600 billion from The Fed with an exchange of bonds where the United States promise to pay a sum of money it borrowes plus interest. The Fed then, sell the bonds to any country of these HUMBLE world esp. China and Russia.

In November 2010, the US Government under Obama admisnistration again carries out another round of Quantitative easing total USD 900 billion. The process is the same where the United States is actually borrowing from the rest of the world esp. China.

Everytime, the US print out money the price of gold rocketed.
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