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Author: k4zi

Bersedie dgn new wave global financial crisis!!

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Post time 7-8-2011 08:51 PM | Show all posts
aku baca kat paper mana ntah .... Malaysia wont be affected much ... as malaysian stock market not r ...
edry_faizi Post at 7-8-2011 18:14



    mmg irrelevant...FBM KLCI nie lagging ekceli and momentum dia follow US stock market...generally, kalau SNP, NAsdaq atau DJI perform worst atau better...besok paginya FBM KLCI akan folo
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Post time 7-8-2011 09:02 PM | Show all posts
Reply  tarabas1976

coz gold da jd safety asset...
k4zi Post at 7-8-2011 19:42



    Last weekk...CHF shine across the globe..bukan gold..

Gold mmg valuable...but bg aku just on paper ajer...

kerana???

becoz beli u nak buy something, simpanan gold kamu akan liquidatekan menjadi wang kertas...maka gold dah takde nilai ..selagi itu, gold subject to speculation, supply n demand..turun n naik versus USD..

unless..

Gold betul  di gunakan utk tukaran beli barang..masa tue, true reflection of gold as safe heaven asset akan terserlah dan USD benar jd tisu tandas..
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Post time 7-8-2011 10:01 PM | Show all posts
se from Bloomberg and Yahoo News. My, advise is don't believe everything that ya' read. These are the schools which believe that "Gold creates
Reply 53# tarabas1976

i see... so bloomberg & yahoo news is not so reliable. apart from the FB you mentioned, what other reading materials do you suggest, yang maybe layman macam i boleh grasp the points, not too jargon , not too high tech for me... ni kekadang baru baca 1 para dah kena bukak dictionary sebab tak paham terminology yang diguna.
magazine Personal Money tu ok ker?
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 Author| Post time 7-8-2011 10:03 PM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by k4zi at 8-8-2011 08:30

Reply 62# amirul_nazri

yes....chf shine around the globe.........bkn chf je actually yen skali....sbb 2 neagre ni interest rate paling rendah....tp yen kurang menyerlah sbb spculation yen intervention oleh BOj n MOF japun....

skarang ni.....mmg die dipilih jadi safe haven..

due too bloomberg

"“Gold will most likely be a sharp recipient of safe- havenflows”
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Post time 7-8-2011 10:42 PM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by aarie at 7-8-2011 22:43
company yg eksport product dia guna USD akan mengalami kerugian bila USD lemah berbanding RM...boleh jelaskan...
cucusaddam Post at 7-8-2011 18:29


international trade biasanya buat in USD...
if you are exporting... you would have quoted in USD and payment will also be made in USD...

bila USD lemah berbanding RM...
untuk barangan yg sama... payment yg u terima in USD tetap juga sama..
tapi bila convert to RM... nilai akan berkurangan mengikut exchange rate semasa...

cost dalam RM tetap sama.. tapi hasil jualan dalam RM berkurangan...
jika profit margin terlalu kecil... ada kemungkinan hasil jualan lebih rendah dari cost in RM.. => KERUGIAN....
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 Author| Post time 7-8-2011 10:52 PM | Show all posts
Reply 65# aarie


    itulah psl.......jepun intervene...
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Reply 62# amirul_nazri



yes....chf shine around the globe.........bkn chf je actually yen skali....sbb 2 neagre ni interest rate paling rendah....tp yen kurang menyerlah sbb spculation yen intervention oleh BOj n MOF japun....

skarang ni.....mmg die dipilih jadi safe haven..

due too bloomberg

"“Gold will most likely be a sharp recipient of safe- havenflows”
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Post time 8-8-2011 09:03 AM | Show all posts
jawapan saye.....emas akn naik jike inflation naik...skng kan inflation  high kat kebanykn ...
k4zi Post at 7-8-2011 19:45



    From the fundamental aspect of fiat money, what cause an inflation from fiat money? What is the relation between inflation with US dollar? Why is it that everytime US carries out Quantitaive Easing (or printing money by creating debt) the price of food, gold, silver and commodity rise?
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Post time 8-8-2011 09:05 AM | Show all posts
Reply  tarabas1976

i see... so bloomberg & yahoo news is not so reliable. apart from the FB you  ...
cn7 Post at 7-8-2011 22:01



   You can also try articles from International Harry Schultz Newsletter.
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Post time 8-8-2011 09:14 AM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by tarabas1976 at 8-8-2011 09:16
Last weekk...CHF shine across the globe..bukan gold..

Gold mmg valuable...but bg aku ju ...
amirul_nazri Post at 7-8-2011 21:02



    If I have 1 ounce of gold and I liquidate it to fiat money (in 1971) I would get USD35  whereas if I decided to keep my 1 ounce of gold untill 2011 and liquidate it to fiat money I would get USD 1600.  Can't ya' see, ya' need more fiat money to buy the same thing with the same amount? Gold, silver, food, fuel, car and house.

Are gold deteriorate its purchasing power or is it the fiat money which deteriorate its purchasing power? Is there any in human history of civilization where gold does not accepted as precious metal (the Mayan and Aztec civilsation is an exception because these civilisation did not interact with other civilisation in the world at that time)? Is there any nation which bankrupt due to its reserve in gold ratehr than Zimbabwe which has no gold at all in its reserve to back up its currency? Why China and India especially China, the biggest holder of T-bills purchase a huge amount of gold every year to replace it T-bills, starting at 2008?

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Post time 8-8-2011 09:40 AM | Show all posts
Aku punyer pendapat lak.......
wat hutang (personal loan misal katakan) semaksima yang mungkin dan loan tersebut beli physical gold and silver.

Gold (seeloknya kijang emas dan dinar kelantan) simpan di pajak gadai dapat pinjaman dan beli lagi gold.
tarabas1976 Post at 7-8-2011 16:28


aku terpanggil utk berdiskusi brkenaan idea ko ni...

1. Buat personal loan max... >>>> menambahkan hutang utk pelaburan adakah tindakan BIJAK..?
2. Pajak emas ( yg mana berhutang) utk beli emas lain (melabur) then pajak lg (hutang lg) then beli emas lg utk melabur..

yang mana..akhir tindakan masuk angin keluar asap jer..

teknik rempit gadai emas ni untung sgt kah..?
sbbnya beza kenaikan emas pun cuma dalam $50 - $ 100 jer..
dah kalo ko gadai gadai gadai emas..cemana nak tebus semula..?
balik2 yg bole tebus pun 1 jer...yg lain2 berkepuk kat ar-rahnu tu camana nak tebus..?
lg pun gadaian cuma dpt 65% dr nilai emas..camana nak roling sgt..? dpt la emas besar janggut udang jer..


pada fikiran aku beli emas secara tunai sikit2 then simpan...
bila recession..then BARU PAJAK emas utk kelansungan idop..ITU YG DIMAKSUDKAN erti kata rezab simpanan emas..

mcm aku beli emas ada 2 kategori..
1. khas utk pakai time raya..kenduri..melaram masa majelis..
2. khas utk PAJAK utk KELANSUNGAN IDOP/emergency fund..

aku tak beli emas bar/coin since bank dah TAK TERIMA utk pajak...
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Post time 8-8-2011 09:55 AM | Show all posts
Reply 71# koko2


    Secara surface seperti itu, tetapi bukan secara halus. pada bulan 3 tahun 2011 harga emas berada di bawah USD1500. Minggu ini harganya hampir mencecah USD 1700. Secara halusnya banyak faktor yang perlu diambilkira, yang paling penting faktor yang mempengaruhi sistem matawang fiat yang akan mempengaruhi harga emas. Harga emas melambung adalah disebabkan pengurangan purchasing power of the dollar dan the printing of dollar is actually exporting inflation to the rest of the world.

2nd of August 2011, US fail to pay its debt and instead it is raising its debt ceiling. Where does this debt comes from? Who created the debt? How does this will affect the rest of fiat money system in less than 2 years time?
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Post time 8-8-2011 10:14 AM | Show all posts
Reply 72# tarabas1976

ko tak menjawab soklan aku bro..bijakkah berhutang ( loan & gold pawn) utk more invested in gold..?

intipati aku kat sini ialah..jgn sampai teknik pelaburan emas MENJERUT leher sendiri..
belian emas adalah bijak..tapi jgn sampai teknik & cara belian & jenis emas yg dibeli menyusahkan pelabur sendiri..
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Post time 8-8-2011 10:19 AM | Show all posts
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Post time 8-8-2011 10:59 AM | Show all posts
pada pendapat saya... krisis yg berlaku skrg lanjutan krisis 2008...

sejak 2009... depa lamba ...
pengecatbintang Post at 7-8-2011 14:57


saya keja dekat kompeni semiconductor...

langkah2 yg diambil oleh kompeni:

1) sejak dari Oct 2010 dah start mass vacation... after raya.. i keja 4 days/week...for october untill end of the year pon ada rumors psl mass vacation akan jd lagi byk...yang takde cuti tu..paham2 je..tolak gaji larr....

2) banyak projek hold.. duit semua dah dibekuan for project+order+etc...

3) no new hired.. kalau ada org benti.. nsb larr... sorang akan buat 2-3 keja larrr...

4) no more OT..termasuk larr operator+technician+engineer...

5) no renew contract for contract workers....

p/s: tp i dgr ekonomi skrg tak seteruk masa 2009..betul ke? i plak rasa 2012 akan bertambah teruk... tak tau larr kan...
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 Author| Post time 8-8-2011 11:31 AM | Show all posts
Reply 75# nasha82

company jepun ke...kalo company jepun mmg prob skit....
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Post time 8-8-2011 11:44 AM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by pengecatbintang at 8-8-2011 11:48
saya keja dekat kompeni semiconductor...

langkah2 yg diambil oleh kompeni:

1) sejak dari O ...
nasha82 Post at 8-8-2011 10:59


Thanks for the info..

Baby..

This time is really different..

All hell will breaks loose..

Prepare..

Hold physical gold n silver.. This is an opportunity once in a life time..

This is also abnormal economic disaster happen once in our life time
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Post time 8-8-2011 11:46 AM | Show all posts
naper semua sibuk promosi beli emas, adakah nak bawa emas tu seketul gie pasar k?... jika gadai bukan dpt 100% harga emas tersebut... ada duit beli tanah, tanam kelapa sawit dan getah mcm org kampung buat, org tetap akan cari kelapa sawit untuk buat minyak masak dan getah untuk buat bahan... cuma harga jatuh jelah tpi at least ada invesment...
family ai bnyk beli tanah buat tanam sawit dan getah, kebetulan bisnes construction pun mcm dh x ada projek 2,3 tahun nie...
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 Author| Post time 8-8-2011 11:47 AM | Show all posts
Reply 77# pengecatbintang

nak hold pon hati2 ye takut da peak...hehehhehehe.....

bak kate warren b...

"if everyone are greedy tkae oppurtunity to sell.....n if everyone fear..take oppurtunity to buy"
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 Author| Post time 8-8-2011 11:50 AM | Show all posts
Reply 78# B.K


    tunggu pilihan raye n rancangan malaysie ke 10..ade la projek tu....huhu

pesanan dari x budak praktikel JKR..haha
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