KENAPA ORANG KERISTIAN TERLALU ASYIK HENDAK MURTADKAN ORANG MUSLIM?

unoryah

wei_loon5063 posted on 7-5-2014 05:28 PM
kalau saya nk cipta hamba, saya akan ciptakan bangsa transformers, boleh ubah kepada apa yg saya nak ...

ok faham

wei_loon5063

i am not saying or insulting your religion. just indicating the paradox of creationism of god.

yes, I concur god create everything, but created vast universe. 15 billion light yeras apart and beyond with trillions of stars with only human? yet we are edge of universe. and created so many thing, so many effort just to get an army of slave?

Czaziq

wkk5159 posted on 5-5-2014 02:18 PM
adakah kerana mereka tidak yakin dengan agama sendiri? adakah mereka rasa ada sesuatu didalam isl ...

Allah hanya ekslusif utk Islam. sekiranya kristian nak gunakan Allah dlm bible pada aku, silakan cuma jika kristian pun mengakui keEsaan Allah swt, means indirectly mereka juga mengakui kebesaran Islam. therefore, mereka juga telah memeluk agama islam. just my 2 cents. salam semua saudaraku...

vikramavardhana

Memeluk Islam means mesti mintah cop mohor from Muhammad, four imams and certification of being a Muslim for non-Muslims who convert. Just like those who converted to Christianity needs to be baptized through Jesus in order to be saved. Only Jesus or Muhammad are the way for salvation as according to both religions. I think both Christianity and Islam are just the same in term of proselyting others. Differently to Judaism who do not simply proselyte others but only promote that others should acknowledge the presence of God without having to submit to their "religious" system or authority

louiektc

vikramavardhana posted on 5-6-2014 09:08 PM
Memeluk Islam means mesti mintah cop mohor from Muhammad, four imams and certification of being a Mu ...

Just like those who converted to Christianity needs to be baptized through Jesus in order to be saved

em..em...where do ya get the idea of baptism=salvation? it sounds conditional bind to the religion creed.

A simple man without sin does not need any Salvation. It is not man who Sins against worldly law, but those who Sin against God need God's Salvation. We find many wise men sin not to worldly law, but none of them ever never sin to God. Except Jesus Christ.

For baptism Jesus tells his disiples "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit". The significant of baptism is not salvation alone, but being a disciple of Jesus, spiritually newly born man, new way of life. like first obtaining your citizenship.

A church baptism ceremony will not make you become a Christian or a better Christian, and obatining the salvation from God automatically.
One who have baptized for 100 times, will not convert him become a Christian or 100 Salvations to spare for later sins.

The Salvation comes only when one relies that he is a true sinner and God is the only Saviour.

LUNCH

Sebab orang Christian tak nak orang Islam masuk neraka.

LUNCH

Agama hanyalah ciptaan manusia. Manusia zaman dulu kurang cerdik macam zaman sekarang. Mereka cepat percayai apa yang di ceritakan kepada mereka.

wei_loon5063

vikramavardhana posted on 5-6-2014 09:08 PM
Memeluk Islam means mesti mintah cop mohor from Muhammad, four imams and certification of being a Mu ...

Somehow Judaism is exclusively for Jews n israelisst. You don see ppl convert to Judaism.

vikramavardhana

wei_loon5063 posted on 17-6-2014 01:11 PM
Somehow Judaism is exclusively for Jews n israelisst. You don see ppl convert to Judaism.

There were, but not so much today after the establishment of their Rabbinical authority which is largely based from their previous Pharisees groups. The Israelites were divided into two kingdoms, the Southern with Judah dynasty as the ruling family while the Northern kingdom was Israel but inhabited by the Samaritans.

I think maybe you should also check the Mani religion in their Gnosticism... Their prominent seer, Mani mentioned that True God has nothing to do with Material World. "Now, he who spoke with Moses, the Jews, and the priests he says is the archont of Darkness, and the Christians, Jews, and pagans (ethnic) are one and the same, as they revere the same god. For in his aspirations he seduces them, as he is not the god of truth. And so therefore all those who put their hope in the god who spoke with Moses and the prophets have (this in store for themselves, namely) to be bound with him, because they did not put their hope in the god of truth. For that one spoke with them (only) according to their own aspirations".

I believe this is one of the Bramhadev or a Maradev (killer)... We really have to be very careful... Lord Buddha has warned us...

irfankia

Kepada semua yang tak tahu saya nak katakan yang saya tahu kenapa kerana saya mempunyai kawan kristian yang dulu dia tak suka islam kerana seorang daripada kita yang kata tuhan kita paling kuat dan mereka marah sepatut nya kata yang tuhankita sama sama kuat baru tak gaduh itu sebab pertama

irfankia

Sebab kedua ialah seorang daripada mereka ingat kita pembenci haiwan tetapi kita tidak membenci haiwan seperti anjing dan babi kita tak boleh pegang kerana haram kenapa haram sebab dalam lidah anjing ada kuman yang banyak dalam badan babi ada ulat

Sepatut kita mesti beritahu yang kita tidak benci kita tidak boleh sentuh kerana ia kotor dan banyak kuman

irfankia

Sebab pertama adalah kita sepatut nya kata yang tuhan kita sama sama kuat bukan kata tuhan kita je kuat kerana bila kita kata tuhan kita je kuat mereka akan cemburu contoh nya kita kata dekay kawan kita ada i phone kalau kawan dengki dia kata kat orang mentang mentang ada iphone kita punya nokia je kan jadi berbalah tu